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(WizLab) 07:23:51 <|amethyst> !lm aleksiL crash x=src,v 07:23:54 7. [2012-05-09] [src=cdo;v=0.11-a0] aleksiL the Metallomancer (L23 DDEE) ASSERT(zombie class size(cs) == Z NOZOMBIE || zombie class size(cs) == mons zombie size(base)) in 'mon-place.cc' at line 2053 failed on turn 60732. (WizLab) 07:23:59 <|amethyst> !lm aleksiL crash -log 07:24:00 7. aleksiL, XL23 DDEE, T:60732 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/aleksiL/crash-aleksiL-20120509-122100.txt 07:25:43 -!- SkaryMonk1 is now known as SkaryWonk 07:47:16 -!- G-Flex has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:49:19 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 07:53:30 -!- absolutego is now known as absolutego_ 08:00:10 -!- oberstein has quit [Quit: uhhh] 08:01:10 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 08:02:55 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 08:07:56 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:14:52 archl (L17 DrTm) ASSERT(y >= 1 && y <= sz.y) in 'libutil.cc' at line 942 failed. 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12:46:35 shoot wrong chat sorry >< 12:46:51 -!- XnMojo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:47:41 -!- xnmojo has joined ##crawl-dev 12:50:04 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:06 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:04:34 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:06:03 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:27:09 -!- MarvinPA has quit [] 13:31:28 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:59:19 -!- jeanjacques has quit [] 14:01:43 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:03:16 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:12:41 -!- alefury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Iceape 2.0.11/20111108220737]] 14:17:57 -!- Blade has joined ##crawl-dev 14:21:42 -!- Blade is now known as Blade- 14:22:31 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 14:25:32 -!- Heteroy has joined ##crawl-dev 14:34:11 -!- xnmojo has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:34:37 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:35:30 -!- Heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:36:55 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 14:37:44 -!- syllogism has quit [] 14:41:45 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:42:15 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 14:42:44 -!- heteroy has joined ##crawl-dev 14:52:38 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 15:00:27 -!- rawrmage is now known as rawrmage-old 15:01:36 -!- ToBeFree has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:01:37 -!- rawrmage_ is now known as rawrmage 15:01:43 -!- rawrmage has quit [Changing host] 15:01:43 -!- rawrmage has joined ##crawl-dev 15:03:40 -!- rawrmage-old has quit [Quit: Caught sigterm, terminating...] 15:04:27 -!- MarvinPA has quit [] 15:07:34 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 15:07:37 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4888 15:07:51 some of these arent in yet, right? also, any corrections arent in? 15:08:37 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 15:12:04 -!- Blade has joined ##crawl-dev 15:13:42 -!- vivec has joined ##crawl-dev 15:13:54 is there an init setting that autoexplores and then stops over a corpse? 15:14:02 because I need to find something to make oka sacrifice less annoying 15:15:58 i think someone wrote an autosac script, check the tavern 15:16:24 wow seriously that would own 15:16:27 where would it be in the tav? 15:16:36 i dont know how well it works 15:16:45 and i wont search for it, you can do that yourself 15:19:00 actually im not 100% sure such a script exists, but i thought some lua hook was added specifically to make something like it work, so it probably does 15:19:22 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=4395 15:22:21 thank you 15:22:39 are the devs looking at sacrifice at all? it's really boring and not flavorful or choice related at all 15:23:06 -!- shirish has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:24:43 -!- Giomancer has joined ##crawl-dev 15:24:44 -!- Pingas has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:27:13 -!- shirish has joined ##crawl-dev 15:40:51 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 15:42:57 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 15:45:51 -!- vivec has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:46:41 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:46:58 -!- neunon has quit [Excess Flood] 15:47:13 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 15:49:19 -!- Blade has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:57:23 -!- shirish has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:59:20 -!- voxxik has joined ##crawl-dev 15:59:55 -!- jato_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:59:55 -!- ivan`` has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:00:50 -!- ivan`` has joined ##crawl-dev 16:00:58 -!- F-Glex has joined ##crawl-dev 16:02:00 -!- magistern has joined ##crawl-dev 16:03:07 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:03:10 -!- G-Flex has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:03:12 -!- __duncan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:03:29 -!- __duncan has joined ##crawl-dev 16:04:42 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:08:08 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:11:06 -!- Pacra__ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:11:19 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 16:11:27 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:13:00 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:13:33 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 16:14:12 -!- dtsund has quit [Client Quit] 16:20:32 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 16:24:04 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Ragdoll] 16:24:24 -!- Pacra__ is now known as Pacra 16:25:39 -!- Keskitalo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:27:07 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:29:03 -!- Keskitalo has joined ##crawl-dev 16:33:25 Saegor (L15 GhEE) ASSERT(in_bounds(src_pos) || src_pos.origin()) in 'mon-behv.cc' at line 890 failed. (Spider:1) 16:42:32 <|amethyst> !lg Saegor crash -log 16:42:32 Unknown selector: verb 16:42:36 <|amethyst> !lm Saegor crash -log 16:42:39 5. Saegor, XL15 GhEE, T:53038 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/Saegor/crash-Saegor-20120509-213313.txt 16:49:02 <|amethyst> something in noise propagation is giving an out-of-bounds apparent source 16:49:21 he LRDed an outer wall, it passes map_bounds() but not in_bounds() 16:49:54 ie, a legitimate place for a sound to happen, but not a legitimate target for a monster to walk to 16:51:07 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:51:34 not sure how to fix this (and there are other ways to trigger it): an easy kludge would be to use a nearby square that's just next to the one the spell happened on 16:51:57 <|amethyst> yeah, noise_perceived_position seems like the place to fix it 16:52:44 <|amethyst> move it in by one square if it's on the map edge 16:57:24 <|amethyst> wait 16:57:29 <|amethyst> it's supposed to do that already 16:57:52 <|amethyst> const coord_def final_perceived_point = !in_bounds(perceived_point)? _point_clamped_in_bounds(perceived_point) : perceived_point; 17:00:51 <|amethyst> oh 17:01:05 <|amethyst> if (act->see_cell(noise.noise_source)) return (noise.noise_source); 17:01:21 <|amethyst> as well as the !noise_travel_distance check 17:01:30 <|amethyst> so it must be one of those code paths 17:02:17 <|amethyst> can call _point_clamped_in_bounds() in those code paths too 17:02:56 <|amethyst> I guess it's not necessary in the !noise_travel_distance case, assuming that means what I think it means 17:04:16 hrm, I get plenty of "Error: can't texture onto an unloaded image." during compilation 17:05:00 trying HEAD~100 does that as well 17:06:19 heck, even 0.10 has that, wtf? 17:07:18 Debian moved to gcc-4.7 as the default yesterday, but this error is there for both gcc-4.6 and gcc-4.7, and I regularly check all recent compiler versions 17:07:54 oh, tiles build work, at least past the start 17:08:23 <|amethyst> valid is weird in !USE_TILES 17:08:33 (I'll look for the noise thing first) 17:08:38 <|amethyst> but that doesn't explain why it would have started all of a sudden 17:08:57 hmm indeed... but it should still validate 17:09:33 <|amethyst> if I'm reading correctly, if the tile somehow gets a size in non-tile mode, it's invalid 17:09:47 <|amethyst> could valid just return true ifndef USE_TILE 17:09:50 <|amethyst> ? 17:09:51 beh, the size is 0x0, correctly 17:09:54 <|amethyst> hm 17:10:07 it's m_pixels that's NULL 17:10:20 <|amethyst> library change then 17:10:40 <|amethyst> if that's the case, it should build fine with contrib 17:13:23 checking, but IIRC libpng nor sdl-image is even used in this case 17:13:56 as expected, same 17:16:12 m_pixels = new tile_colour[0]; 17:16:21 after this allocation, m_pixels is 0 17:17:49 gcc-4.6 hasn't changed, how a basic part of the language could have been made to return something else? 17:18:40 malloc() is allowed to return either NULL or a pointer to a new unique object, lemme look up C++'s "new" 17:21:25 hard to search it... 17:21:45 https://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/comphelp/v8v101/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.xlcpp8a.doc%2Flanguage%2Fref%2Fcplr199.htm claims it's guaranteed to return an unique pointer 17:25:01 C++11, If the request succeeds, the value returned shall be a non-null pointer value (4.10) p0 different from any previously returned value p1, unless that value p1 was subsequently passed to an operator delete. The 17:25:05 effect of dereferencing a pointer returned as a request for zero size is undefined. 17:25:21 C++11 3.7.4.1 17:26:06 -!- blabber has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:29:31 -!- HangedMan has joined ##crawl-dev 17:29:37 scummos (L27 DsNe) ASSERT(branch >= 0 && branch < NUM_BRANCHES) in 'branch.cc' at line 50 failed. (Hell) 17:30:18 !lm * crash -log 17:30:18 2962. scummos, XL27 DsNe, T:110721 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/scummos/crash-scummos-20120509-222924.txt 17:31:00 something to do with monster generation? 17:34:01 hrm, "new int[0]" returns a non-null, correctly 17:35:13 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 17:36:01 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 17:37:24 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 17:38:01 yet "new tile_colour[0]" returns null 17:39:22 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:39:58 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 17:43:21 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: gn8] 17:45:30 kilobyte: what do you think of the idea of improving felids' evoc apt? I don't see any particular reason why they should be bad with stuff like evokable artefacts just because they can't hold a wand or rod 17:46:04 got it: the rltiles makefile ignores GXX=compiler, so my checks for non-default compilers were wrong 17:46:42 elliptic: sure, why not? I can't remember my reasoning there. 17:47:54 what to raise it to? 0? +1? (it is at -2 currently) 17:49:52 +1, cats are clever 17:51:16 but are they better than humans at activating rings? 17:52:43 incidentally, why are small things that aren't kitties good at evocations 17:53:31 spriggans are good at evocations because people are content letting spriggans have awful nonsense apts 17:54:01 !apt ha evo 17:54:02 Ha (SK_EVOCATIONS)=1 17:54:06 !apt ko evo 17:54:06 Ko (SK_EVOCATIONS)=2 17:54:11 not just spriggans 17:54:12 evo, bows, staff, ink there's a few more dumb ones too 17:54:24 bows doesn't matter because they can't use longbows 17:54:25 magical gadgets, spriggans are themed as a "trickster sprite" race 17:55:21 back to felids: how exactly do you "evoke" a ring? 17:55:38 turn it on your finger 17:55:50 I guess we need to come up with _some_ theme here 17:56:02 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_of_Gyges 17:56:05 Eronarn: then it wouldn't require any skill, any idiot can turn a ring around 17:56:34 kilobyte: for that matter, what skill is used in using a deck 17:56:40 you hold your hand in a fist until the triforce of power starts to glow 17:56:48 also zapping a wand etc 17:57:09 also poking someone from two squares away 17:57:11 =p 17:57:23 well where would you put the reaching menu then 17:57:30 problems with magic :p 17:57:45 kilobyte: it's like on a radio with a dial, adjusting it to just the right setting! 17:58:06 remember, any idiot can eventually succeed at e.g. an invis ring evoke, even with no skill :) 17:58:06 clearly it would be so much better if we put wield and put on and remove jewellery on one key 17:58:09 Eronarn: well, the tiles say otherwise, and descriptions don't mention any dials either 17:58:20 HangedMan: ... 17:58:41 yes, let's move wield and wear and put on to equip 17:58:48 and eat and quaff to consume 17:58:51 HangedMan: been discussed to a nausea, and for something you swap often like rings, would be even worse than armour 17:59:01 poo 17:59:20 for so much fat-cutting, nearly having the entire keyboard for commands feels eurgh 17:59:33 Zannick: having wield/wear/put on as one key would make sense, having them be non-idempotent would not 17:59:34 remove food from crawl, also corpses 17:59:44 also eronarn's dial metaphor is clearly for rotating the ring on your finger or whatever, not dials on the rings themselves 18:00:00 Zannick: ie, your idea has merit, HangedMan's does not 18:00:04 but eronarn, kiku 18:00:06 heh 18:00:18 i missed the "remove" part of HangedMan's 18:00:34 I was avoiding wear because it takes multiple turns 18:00:44 kilobyte: anyway, I'd tend to think of evocation skill as being a combination of understanding of how the devices work and mental concentration to focus their effects 18:01:00 which works given that it gives MP now 18:01:01 you do... something, with a stone of earth elementals 18:01:28 make it maracas of earth elementals 18:01:32 you dance with them 18:01:49 they're pretty slow dancers 18:02:01 back to the new tile_colour[0] thingy: apparently, an array of 0 size is illegal in standard C++; gcc-4.7 handles it in a weird way but it's right to do so 18:02:51 in gcc-4.6, "new() always returns an unique pointer" trumped the illegal type thingy, in gcc-4.7 it does not 18:03:01 a warning or such would be really nice, of course 18:03:43 elliptic: in that case, bumping the aptitude would make sense, yeah 18:04:29 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 18:09:35 uhm no, C++11 3.7.4.1 would make no sense if such allocs are disallowed 18:11:13 * kilobyte is totally confused. 18:17:37 03elliptic * rd49aba625a0c 10/crawl-ref/source/aptitudes.h: Make felids better with evocations. 18:26:49 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:26:59 -!- Ganrao| has joined ##crawl-dev 18:27:39 -!- Vandal has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:27:39 -!- djinni has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:32:21 03kilobyte * r255825dfdb93 10/crawl-ref/source/rltiles/tool/tile.cc: Fix non-tile builds with gcc-4.7. 18:33:52 -!- djinni has joined ##crawl-dev 18:34:22 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 18:36:13 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 18:44:18 03elliptic * rfea3bfef4d52 10/crawl-ref/source/aptitudes.h: Improve felid UC and Fighting apts. 18:46:16 03kilobyte * rabd22f24f12b 10/crawl-ref/source/aptitudes.h: Nerf felid Summ aptitude: +1 -> 0 18:46:37 that apt did seem a bit strange, yeah 18:46:54 it's probably still too good 18:47:02 !apt summoning 18:47:03 Summ: Ce: -1, DD: -1, DE: 1, Dg: -1, Dr: 0, Dr[black]: 0, Dr[green]: 0, Dr[grey]: 0, Dr[mottled]: 0, Dr[pale]: 0, Dr[purple]: 0, Dr[red]: 0, Dr[white]: 0, Dr[yellow]: 0, Ds: 0, Fe: 1, Gh: -1, Ha: -1, HE: -1, HO: 0, Hu: 0, Ko: 0, Mf: 0, Mi: -3*, Mu: -2, Na: 0, Og: -3*, Op: 0, SE: 1, Sp: -2, Te: 2!, Tr: -3*, Vp: 0 18:47:08 summ in general is too good :P 18:47:13 -!- ark_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:47:27 minmay_twisted_water's comment is off, frost giant and ice beasts are able to move around and thus it's meaner then dragon1_lemuel 18:47:32 it's a good deal better on fast races 18:47:36 -!- snadge has left ##crawl-dev 18:48:17 it should probably be a little deeper so as to not make a frost giant potentially wander around d:9 19:00:32 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 19:01:52 -!- Dixie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:02:38 -!- Dixie has joined ##crawl-dev 19:15:39 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 19:18:53 reopened https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4888 19:19:53 Napkin: can you allow reopening a mantis issue without going through the "request feedback" step first? 19:21:43 (its a tile submission issue) 19:27:24 alefury: it's 2:26 in the night, all sane Yuropeens sleep now 19:27:40 (Napkin isn't sane, but may be sleeping too) 19:29:43 i kind of expect him to read the backlog highlights 19:29:52 if im wrong, nothing really important got lost anyway 19:30:27 also, goodnight, fellow insane yuropeen 19:30:30 03kilobyte * r9f2174219d4a 10/crawl-ref/source/delay.cc: Prevent passwalling into lava/deep water if an Abyss morph happens. 19:30:31 03kilobyte * rb04500668150 10/crawl-ref/source/ (10 files): Rename STINKING_CLOUD to MEPHITIC. 19:30:31 03kilobyte * r9ad8a4c74c35 10/crawl-ref/source/traps.cc: Remove an unused special casing. 19:30:31 03kilobyte * r1a7631d92c71 10/crawl-ref/source/dungeon.cc: Don't place invalid traps. 19:30:32 03kilobyte * rd56b4e1daeee 10/crawl-ref/source/describe.cc: Don't suppress the display of sInv and speed of ghost_demons. 19:30:32 03kilobyte * r1028c3cfb919 10/crawl-ref/source/ (traps.cc traps.h): Traps are never placed on a remote level, so simplify the interface. 19:31:01 -!- alefury has quit [] 19:31:44 !lg * map=~monster_moat -tv 19:31:45 2. petzl, XL8 OpSu, T:9358 requested for FooTV. 19:32:00 does banishment still potentially place a player inside a vault? 19:32:06 inside a vault wall, too 19:35:35 -!- Blade- has joined ##crawl-dev 19:42:07 * dtsund finally gets knee-jerk reaction to a Light nerf, goes "oh so that's how it feels" 19:42:24 what was it? 19:42:56 Well, Light keeps the Berserker Rage spell around. I made it drain a point of Str or Dex when cast. 19:43:08 HangedMan: hmm, I could swear the initial Abyss after banishment has no vaults 19:43:23 I also made it so that stats don't regenerate over time, even if you're not a deep dwarf, so you need !restAb to fix it, and also made !restAb slightly more common. 19:43:32 wow 19:43:54 would not use it, personally 19:44:18 a nerf in Light? Truly. the Mayans must have been right, the end of the world is nigh. 19:44:19 amusing idea for ely and zin to be useful for cr/sk though 19:44:20 Well, this was kind of in compensation for the whole "you never need to eat" thing. 19:44:20 03|amethyst 07stone_soup-0.10 * r4d8027118cb8 10/crawl-ref/source/effects.cc: Avoid an electrocution crash. 19:44:21 03MarvinPA 07stone_soup-0.10 * r943f040ac87b 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/altar/overflow.des: Fix broken no_rtele_into in nemelex_altar_shiori 19:44:21 03kilobyte 07stone_soup-0.10 * r188d1fe0faef 10/crawl-ref/source/rltiles/tool/tile.cc: Fix non-tile builds with gcc-4.7. 19:44:31 03kilobyte 07stone_soup-0.10 * re10ff2fd00ad 10/crawl-ref/source/delay.cc: Prevent passwalling into lava/deep water if an Abyss morph happens. 19:44:32 03kilobyte 07stone_soup-0.10 * re9aa161852b2 10/crawl-ref/source/dungeon.cc: Don't place invalid traps. 19:44:56 kilobyte: Hey, the new glow system amounts to a moderate caster nerf. 19:45:59 hmm, perhaps 19:46:36 in chunk-rich areas, I guess 19:46:48 Haste and copious channel-spam is now an xor proposition. 19:47:16 delicious cboe/tso/vehumet/sob 19:47:19 maybe even ambrosia 19:47:29 Ambrosia's gone. 19:47:37 It's a type of food. 19:48:18 -!- F-Glex has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:48:50 it would be great to nerf casters 19:49:24 potion of confusion/mana regen 19:50:02 ??caster 19:50:03 caster[1/3]: only a couple people actually mean "character that casts spells" when they say this 19:50:06 ??caster[3] 19:50:07 caster[3/3]: a caster is.. a fisherman 19:50:21 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 19:51:20 \\\\ 19:51:43 \\\\? 19:51:56 i sure love this internet connection 19:52:11 type something, can't see it for a minute 19:52:20 entertaining 19:52:57 i should try playing crawl on it 19:53:32 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:02:25 -!- HangedMan has quit [] 20:24:03 -!- 50UAA0ZXF has joined ##crawl-dev 20:24:32 -!- mikee_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:27:54 -!- 50UAA0ZXF is now known as rawrmage-dal 20:45:01 -!- rawrmage-dal has quit [Changing host] 20:45:01 -!- rawrmage-dal has joined ##crawl-dev 20:53:40 -!- Dixie has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:08:32 -!- rawrmage-dal has quit [Quit: my planet needs me i must go] 21:19:54 -!- Dixie has joined ##crawl-dev 21:45:21 Is there a good way to have a constant variable accessible in both the C++ code and the vault syntax? 21:49:09 Replacement Jackal Tiles (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5655) by xnmojo 21:50:35 dtsund: In theory 21:51:12 dtsund: If you expose it as part of a lua library, you shiould be able to set the value as a C++ constant and export it as a read-onkly Lua variable 21:59:36 -!- tswett has quit [Changing host] 21:59:36 -!- tswett has joined ##crawl-dev 22:01:34 Hm. For what I need, I think it'll just be simpler to insert a case into parse_level_id. 22:16:02 Funny. When I say "caster", more often than not, I'm talking about one of the front wheels on a wheelchair. That said... 22:16:15 I'm tempted to submit a bunch of pull requests that consist entirely of refactoring. 22:17:04 do it 22:17:05 <|amethyst> tswett: I'd be tempted to apply them 22:17:15 <|amethyst> please post a report on mantis, too, though 22:17:22 I think at some point someone was working on refactoring ranged combat code 22:17:28 <|amethyst> it's easy to miss merge requests 22:17:42 "FEATURE REQUEST: The code is kind of ugly." 22:17:49 <|amethyst> because no one actually goes to the gitorious site 22:18:01 <|amethyst> there is a "patches" category :P 22:18:06 Now, is the source code itself actually documented? 22:18:18 sort of 22:18:21 <|amethyst> better than many projects, worse than many 22:18:45 documentation, adequate 22:20:37 You know, first, let me submit the "levels worth" patch. 22:21:58 -!- st_ has quit [] 22:23:09 I'm remaking Crawl so that I can test the change I just made. 22:23:16 Said change consists of adding an apostrophe to a string literal. 22:24:35 Is Crawl internationalized? I got the vague idea that it is, but judging by the source code, it seems like it can't be. 22:24:59 tswett: a project to do it has been started 22:25:06 but it is rough going, for obvious reasons 22:25:29 * tswett nods. 22:25:42 talk to kilobyte about that, i'd guess 22:28:31 So is the source code documented on the wiki at all? If it isn't, then that's another thing I'm tempted to do... 22:29:47 Adjusting spells breaks recast last spell command (permanently) (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5656) by Cadex 22:32:38 "You'll get an extra life in 3.00 levels' worth of XP." Excellent. Now I just have to figure out how to submit a pull request. 22:33:00 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 12.0/20120420145725]] 22:33:26 <|amethyst> tswett: for something this small, it's probably simpler to git format-patch and post that to mantis 22:33:49 <|amethyst> tswett: usually a merge request is only worth it for multiple commits 22:35:20 Now I just have to figure out how to use git format-patch. ^_^ 22:37:32 Looks like "git format-patch @{1}" does it in this case. 22:37:44 * due signs tswett off. 22:38:39 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 22:39:49 I... hope being signed off is a good thing. 22:39:59 Yes. 22:43:28 -!- heteroy has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 12.0/20120420145725]] 22:44:42 I feel like this is a significant amount of effort to go through for two apostrophes. But then I think, it's not about the apostrophes. It's about the experience. 22:50:07 Change "levels worth" to "levels' worth" (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5657) by tswett 22:50:20 I'm not sure what it means for a ticket's severity to be "text" or "feature". 22:50:25 But yeah. Woo. 22:50:32 I hope I didn't mess up somehow. 22:53:42 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:03:13 03swettt 07stone_soup-0.10 * r3b92dd8602a0 10/crawl-ref/source/main.cc: Fix punctuation. 23:03:23 03swettt * r6180bce13379 10/crawl-ref/source/main.cc: Fix punctuation. 23:03:29 <|amethyst> tswett: thanks 23:03:35 -!- Wensley has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:04:01 * tswett plucks his hat. 23:06:35 <|amethyst> oh, another useful bug report comment from XuaXua 23:06:48 <|amethyst> on #5631: "I got the same thing in abyss 0.11-a0-1580" 23:07:14 <|amethyst> the original report was about -1654, and it's already been resolved 23:07:19 Debian builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-a0-1758-g1a7631d 23:07:52 <|amethyst> I guess we need to go back in time and fix it two weeks ago? 23:08:15 <|amethyst> fortunately he didn't re-open it 23:14:08 -!- Heteroy has joined ##crawl-dev 23:20:16 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 23:20:30 -!- Blade- has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:20:37 Holy beings will not cross holy fire (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5658) by Tenaya 23:25:22 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]