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00:14:10 <Cheibriados> Simulacra Tiles (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5643) by ontoclasm
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01:10:02 <Cheibriados> if i have many zombies and undead slaves my zombies look like artifact (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5644) by kick1432
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03:52:31 <Cheibriados> kilobyte * 071f4f4901fd (8 changed): Remove the CE_MUTAGEN_BAD special casing.
03:52:31 <Cheibriados> kilobyte * 98b89a9c6e12 (6 changed): Remove unused corpse types.
03:52:31 <Cheibriados> kilobyte * 20189accbc12 (1 changed): Drop fixed enum values from corpse_type.
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04:53:32 <Cheibriados> Sigmund Title Screen FIx (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5645) by DuxOrbis
05:00:06 <Gretell> OSX builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-a0-1705-g071f4f4
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06:15:09 <|amethyst> edlothiol:  re 3707, could we reclaim three bits by changing TILE_FLAG_ELDRITCH_{NW,SW,...} to TILE_FLAG_KRAKEN_* | TILE_FLAG_ELDRITCH  ?
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06:17:24 <edlothiol> |amethyst: yeah, good idea
06:17:54 <edlothiol> don't see why not, they exclude each other anyway
06:18:26 <edlothiol> it would actually simplify the code somewhat
06:19:21 <edlothiol> oh, wait
06:20:07 <edlothiol> those are background flags, IIRC we need room in the foreground flags
06:23:11 <|amethyst> can't you give those three bits to the foreground flags (with rearrangement)?
06:23:12 <edlothiol> (actually, it looks like we need to make room in both the bg and fg flags, or have different TILE_FLAG_MASKs for fg and bg)
06:23:27 <edlothiol> they overlap
06:23:39 <edlothiol> foreground and background flags both use the same bits
06:23:51 <|amethyst> oh
06:23:53 <|amethyst> I see
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06:24:22 <edlothiol> it's a bit weird that both are in the same enum, actually
06:25:07 <|amethyst> it would be kind of ugly, but TILE_FLAG_MDAM_* and TILE_FLAG_DEMON_* use 6 bits for 25 possibilities
06:25:43 <Henzell> tartakower the Warrior (L19 HOEn) ASSERT(t != NON_ENTITY && t < MAX_SHOPS) in 'shopping.cc' at line 2120 failed on turn 49070. (Abyss)
06:25:57 <|amethyst> if they were packed together, that could cut one bit at the expense of clarity
06:27:21 <edlothiol> yeah, it would make setting/getting these flags rather complicated, wouldn't it
06:27:47 <|amethyst> yeah :(
06:30:00 <ghallberg> FR: Wand of undigging.
06:30:00 <edlothiol> the cleanest solution would probably be splitting off the flags completely from the tile indexes (i.e. making tileidx_t some struct containing an int index and a bit array for flags)
06:30:22 <ghallberg> Probably broken...
06:36:37 <|amethyst> FR: the snake from Nibbles
06:37:21 <|amethyst> ghallberg:  what if you use temporary walls like the Tomb card?
06:37:30 <ghallberg> Could be coo.
06:37:47 <ghallberg> I tried to implement it once but got stuvk when I need d to fix enums and tiles and shit...
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06:49:51 <Henzell> tartakower the Backstabber (L11 SpEn) ASSERT(brdepth[branch] <= brdepth[BRANCH_MAIN_DUNGEON]) in 'godpassive.cc' at line 62 failed on turn 1962. (Zot)
06:50:16 <Cheibriados> kilobyte * c86058d0633d (3 changed): A russian translation.
06:51:44 <Patashu> seems like void jiyva_eat_offlevel_items() is broken in zotdef
06:51:58 <Patashu> if (crawl_state.game_is_sprint()) should be changed to also check zotdefness
06:52:00 <Patashu> problem solved
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07:44:50 <kilobyte> Patashu: no, it'd break in other game types too, like that Dungeon Run thingy
07:45:21 <kilobyte> the assertion there is wrong: it hard-codes D as the longest branch
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07:49:50 <kilobyte> (I mean, blocking zotdef would be enough in this case, I'm just looking forward)
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08:21:43 <snadge> no netbsd port for crawl? :P
08:21:50 <araganzar> hey if edlothiol is on shoot me a line - I am looking at the phantom game issue in webserver source and I had a question
08:22:04 <edlothiol> araganzar: I'm here
08:23:16 <kilobyte> snadge: should compile straight from source, but I doubt anyone tests it
08:23:27 <araganzar> From what I can see, the webserver itself doesn't manage the games - it communicates with the main crawl program to build the list?
08:23:58 <snadge> kilobyte: i thought it would be interesting.. since netbsd is anal about ncurses and hates it.. and has its own curses implementation
08:24:23 <snadge> i just finished fixing bitchx to support netbsd x86_64.. so i thought i would give this a crack
08:24:49 <kilobyte> can't you install regular ncurses from "ports" or whatever this is named?
08:24:52 <edlothiol> araganzar: not sure what you mean, the server keeps a set of connected websockets in the sockets variable (ws_handler.py), and some of them have running processes
08:25:14 <snadge> kilobyte: yes.. but then its in /usr/pkgsrc/include .. which makes many applications not able to detect its presence
08:25:14 <kilobyte> as long as their curses are compatible enough, all should be ok (although the makefile may have problems detecting them)
08:25:22 <snadge> right
08:25:40 <kilobyte> I really wish we used autoconf or something else with a decent ability to detect stuff
08:26:06 <snadge> to be fair.. autoconf gets things wrong all the time.. especially on netbsd
08:26:17 <snadge> sure you can make it work, but somebody has to do that
08:30:30 <snadge> ok make just bombs with pages of text.. so im assuming i do need gmake like the instructions say
08:41:35 <snadge> ok excellent.. found a build error
08:42:02 <snadge> linunix.cc:718 (and others) struct cchar_t has no member attr or chars
08:42:31 <snadge> definition in curses.h has defined members "attributes, elements, vals"
08:42:42 <snadge> libunix.cc rather
08:44:43 <ChrisOelmueller> hm, wording question for Jihad's description
08:45:07 <ChrisOelmueller> It has been blessed by the Shining One to cause great damage  and a bit later  This sword was The Shining One's gift to a worshipper.  in http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Slurm/morgue-Slurm-20120506-132759.txt
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08:45:17 <ChrisOelmueller> could use consistency with theSO/TheSO?
08:45:29 <Eronarn> TSO, not tSO
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08:54:46 <kilobyte> capitalizing the in the middle of a sentence sounds wrong to me
08:54:53 <phyphor> I think CDO is having a bit of an issue
08:55:08 <phyphor> kilobyte: is TSO's name TSO or SO?
08:55:52 <phyphor> scummos tried to enter a spider nest and their (and my) game have now hung
08:58:12 <phyphor> Writing crash info to /crawl-svn/morgue/phyphor/crash-phyphor-20120506-135720.txt
08:59:11 <kilobyte> there's a game taking 100% CPU that somehow hasn't been auto-killed
09:00:29 <phyphor> scummos'?
09:00:44 <phyphor> scummos was going into Spider and it hung before picking that up
09:00:59 <phyphor> about the same time my game died and I wasn't doing anything special
09:06:34 <snadge> hmm i need to be able to test whether im on netbsd or not in the makefile
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09:08:16 <phyphor> ANyone able to recover a game for me?
09:09:37 <snadge> ergh i see have to test uname -s
09:11:17 <alefury> i think i found a bug
09:11:38 <alefury> my morgue says i visited 6 ziggurats, completed 4, but i only visited 4
09:11:51 <phyphor> I found a bug, my game is dead :(
09:12:00 <alefury> i banished myself twice, that probably counted as entering another zig each
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09:17:28 <snadge> grr every time you change the makefile it rebuilds *everything*
09:22:32 <snadge> how do i show the build commands? they appear to be hidden
09:23:20 <phyphor> is it only nap kin who can clear my save or otherwise let me play again (CDO trunk)?
09:32:07 <snadge> http://pastebin.com/Hc9zBwFJ
09:32:38 <snadge> ok i finally got it to compile.. now it gives me like 6 pages of undefined references during link
09:37:46 <kilobyte> Lua stuff I can understand... but a regular function like deck_peek() from decks.cc?
09:40:55 <snadge> im just looking into the first one
09:41:03 <snadge> abl-show.cc:(.text+0x7f10): undefined reference to `start_delay(delay_type, int, int, int, int)'
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09:41:19 <snadge> start_delay is in delay.cc
09:41:39 <snadge> delay.o is being linked on the build line
09:42:01 <xgamer> Napkin: hi, I got disconnected from CDO and when I try to play now it says "another game in progress using this save". would be great if you could reset it somehow
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09:47:28 <phyphor> xgamer: my game died, same thing
09:47:35 <phyphor> I believe scummos is in the same state
09:48:29 <xgamer> :(
09:48:51 <snadge> actually.. wtf.. start_delay has optional parameters? damn c++
09:52:41 <snadge> ill try building without LUA
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09:58:31 <snadge> like a boss ;) (it builds)
09:58:45 <snadge> the question becomes.. should i give a crap why lua doesnt work on netbsd?
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10:08:23 <Cheibriados> crash when entering a drain (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5646) by Saegor
10:11:39 <alefury> snadge: i dont think crawl will work without lua
10:11:45 <alefury> its used for building the levels
10:12:17 <snadge> well.. it gets as far as entering the player name
10:12:26 <snadge> as soon as you type a character into that field.. it just exits
10:12:43 <snadge> could be a build problem though i noticed some out of ram messages so i increased the available memory
10:12:44 <snadge> its a vm
10:14:18 <snadge> also i dont have git installed it complained about that.. so i'll try a clean build
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10:15:24 <ophanim> Anyone awake?
10:15:46 <ophanim> I seem to have caused a problem on cdo.
10:17:37 <snadge> yeah a few people have
10:17:58 <Eronarn> 11:15 < graspee> tell him i got an email back from ken perlin today haha i told mr. perlin how we rl developers use perlin  noise and love it. he was thrille
10:18:11 <Eronarn> 'him', in this context, is biskup - who is about to be interviewed for roguelike radio (!)
10:18:34 <Eronarn> so if anyone has any questions for biskup...
10:19:32 <ophanim> Crawl Trunk has hung upon entering a labyrinth.  After logging out and logging back in it's asking if if I want to terminate a process.
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10:20:05 <ophanim> Also, doesn't Minecraft use perlin noise too?
10:21:27 <snadge> ok installing git from ports was a bad idea.. should've installed the package
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10:21:55 <snadge> i had to look up what perlin noise was.. geeky
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10:32:11 <snadge> i wonder why LUA is an optional dependency if its required to run crawl
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10:32:34 <snadge> maybe in 50 years when i've installed git and its dependencies from source.. i'll find out
10:33:47 <Cheibriados> crash when entering Zot:5 (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5647) by Saegor
10:35:06 <phyphor> xgamer: how did you get back in to your game?
10:35:21 <xgamer> I didn't. just playing a bit 0.10 now
10:35:28 <phyphor> ahhh
10:35:28 <phyphor> ok
10:36:34 <snadge> sounds like you guys need to ssh in play on my netbsd x86_64 build :p
10:37:29 <phyphor> or maybe beg napkin to fix our games?
10:38:31 <ophanim> I guess I'm not the only one who can't access his current game?
10:38:52 <snadge> well since i've been in here trying to port to netbsd.. there has been 3 people with the same issue
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10:50:13 <blackpenguin> Napkin: I think my (Gandelf) crashed on CDO. it freezed, so I reconnected, but now it says "Another game is already in progress using this save!
10:50:23 <blackpenguin> only, and no game shows up in watchmode
10:50:40 <blackpenguin> *my game
10:54:12 <ophanim> blackpenguin: join the club
10:54:20 <ophanim> I don't think napkin is here atm
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10:55:05 <ophanim> Mine crashed on entering a labyrinth.  You?
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11:01:08 <blackpenguin> not very deep in the dungeon, while throwing darts
11:01:54 <snadge> damn.. okay, maybe it wont work without ncurses
11:02:16 <snadge> why would entering in the player name make it exit.. not crash.. but exit
11:07:11 <snadge> i love having 8cpu cores :P
11:12:47 <Pacra> <Henzell> Pac the Slayer (L27 OgWn) entered Pandemonium on turn 78542. (D:26)
11:13:08 <Pacra> uh, should henzell be stating that i've entered pandemonium, every time I enter a portal to another region of pan?
11:19:32 <ogsus> Pacra: no afaik
11:24:10 <Pacra> it is doing so :[
11:24:21 <Pacra> also, I've visited at least 20 demon prince rooms, no rune
11:24:25 <Pacra> is it bugging out on me?
11:24:49 <ogsus> not necessarily
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12:00:38 <araganzar> hey edlothiol or napkin - ping me if you're active?
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12:01:34 <edlothiol> araganzar: ping
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12:04:40 <araganzar> heyaz, I posted a 1-line code fix for the spectating problem - it doesn't fix the phantom socket but it prevents it from being more than a mild annoyance
12:05:19 <araganzar> on the ticket  https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5586 - you might not like it because it's inelegant
12:06:23 <edlothiol> yeah, saw it, it's not a bad idea, but I think I'd rather just add the socket id to the link
12:06:28 <araganzar> yeah I agree
12:06:35 <araganzar> I guess crawl is versioned anyway right
12:06:43 <araganzar> so this isn't the kind of thing you could patch quickly
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12:07:26 <Wensley> there are occasional bugfix releases, but the problem is that our server admin is on vacation
12:07:38 <Wensley> unless edlothiol is also an admin on cdo
12:07:56 <araganzar> yeah longterm I think #watch-araganzar-id would also be excellent :)  better and more elegant solution and preserves the future possibility of multiple sessions
12:08:28 <araganzar> thanks for the attention, I know spectating is a sideline
12:08:47 <edlothiol> I mainly didn't do that so far because I like the simplicity of the #watch-(name) links, but it's not that important really
12:10:11 <araganzar> yeah I think the existing system is pretty elegant - especially the lobby management with the cloning/milestone updating
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12:12:22 <araganzar> I'm gonna stop trying to duplicate it, I think that's a good solution and if hte problem becomes a nuisance a few logging statements should determine the root cause
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12:19:49 <Wensley> edlothiol: it looks like there are players on webtiles who have been idle for over a week. is this normal?
12:20:30 <edlothiol> Wensley: that's the problem we've been talking about
12:20:36 <Wensley> ah, I see
12:20:41 <Wensley> are sessions not being terminated?
12:21:36 <edlothiol> the crawl processes are terminated, which is why I really can't explain why the games are still listed
12:22:49 <absolutego> i'm getting the "game already in process using this save" thin on CDO again
12:22:56 <absolutego> who should i bug about that?
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12:22:58 <Wensley> I only noticed because the sorting on my playerstatus page implicitly assumes that players will be auto-dc'd before 100 minutes idle
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12:24:50 <Wensley> edlothiol: if you're changing the watcher links to include ids, will links without ids still function? asking because I don't want to have broken links on the playerstatus page
12:25:11 <edlothiol> Wensley: yeah, I plan on allowing both
12:25:17 <Wensley> cool
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12:29:39 <araganzar> yeah if a session has to end gracefully and remove itself from the sockets list or it phantoms
12:37:22 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.11-a0-1706-gc86058d (33)
12:38:08 <Gretell> Nataq (L14 OpFE)  (D:14)
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12:49:03 <phyphor> several people have problems on CDO righ tnow#
12:49:43 <phyphor> edlothiol: are you able to fix CDO game problems,maybe?
12:52:57 <G-Flex> a similar happened on cao a while back
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12:54:42 <magistern> this has happened in cdo before too
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13:03:53 <phyphor> yeah
13:12:59 <edlothiol> phyphor: sadly no
13:19:01 <phyphor> thanks for replying :)
13:36:37 <Cheibriados> kilobyte * ab8cd22b7549 (4 changed): Fix Jiyva crashing ZotDef.
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13:46:51 <Cheibriados> Entering a flagged portal freezed the game. Save game cannot be loaded. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5648) by sanka
13:52:39 <phyphor> I know scummos was trying to get into Spider pit when their game hung, but I wasn't doing anything but using imps to kill Pikel
13:54:35 <snadge> yay.. i got netbsd to compile and work :D
13:54:43 <snadge> with just a makefile hack
13:55:03 <snadge> which shouldn't break other builds as its all done inside if netbsd
14:00:56 <magistern> it happens when you reach a milestone
14:01:08 <magistern> so kiling pikel caused a crash
14:01:28 <snadge> maximising the terminal window causes a crash :p
14:06:13 <phyphor> magistern: interesting - I thought I'd already killed a unique, but they were all not interesting come to think of it
14:06:28 <magistern> pikel's not interesting so
14:06:31 <phyphor> hrm
14:06:37 <phyphor> I had killed ijyb that game
14:06:42 <magistern> that's odd then
14:06:53 <phyphor> hrm
14:06:57 <phyphor> at least I think I did
14:07:10 <phyphor> I did play a lot of games back to back
14:08:09 <ophanim> it may just be something silly like cdo ran out of space
14:08:22 <ophanim> between you killing ijyb and pikel
14:08:36 <kilobyte> no filesystem is full
14:08:50 <kilobyte> but indeed, it looks like something related to milestones
14:10:07 <phyphor> ah, maybe a problem writing the milestones to a log or something?
14:10:09 <magistern> for me it was getting a rune
14:10:13 <phyphor> meh, I'll leave it to the experts
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15:18:10 <|amethyst> yeah, the crash logs are in lock_file
15:18:21 <|amethyst> under mark_milestone
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15:26:25 <kilobyte> |amethyst: I was quite sure about this too, but no one of the processes have the milestone file open
15:26:34 <kilobyte> and all stuck games are still there
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15:27:44 <kilobyte> looking at any of these processes would answer this immediately, but I can't access the "crawl" use on CDO :(
15:33:18 <kilobyte> the only game that's using 100% CPU is Xin
15:34:57 <kilobyte> oh wait, I'm wrong: neither fuser nor lsof can say those games have milestones open since they can't read /proc/*/fd/ for these games
15:36:31 <|amethyst> yeah
15:36:40 <|amethyst> only root or the crawl user could tell
15:41:20 <kilobyte> only root or the crawl user can kill the offending process, too
15:41:32 <kilobyte> ie: Napkin!  Naaaaapkin!
15:54:09 <ais523> ah, you don't have enough perms to see what's gone wrong?
15:54:45 <kilobyte> yeah
15:55:04 <kilobyte> greensnark might have root on CDO, not sure
15:58:41 <phyphor> kilobyte: if it helps I let my game crash out and I think scummos didn't in case one or other would be helpful
15:59:52 <kilobyte> phyphor: both of you have a stuck process
16:00:11 <edlothiol> the last crawl-svn milestone is a few hours old, FWIW
16:00:15 <phyphor> interesting
16:00:20 <edlothiol> scummos killing erica
16:02:22 <kilobyte> :  PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
16:02:25 <kilobyte> :21833 dgl       20   0 45112 7532 1912 R  104  0.1 434:48.57 crawl-svn-d9437
16:02:52 <|amethyst> I guess that's the one that's holding the lock?
16:03:11 <kilobyte> ie, 7.2 hours ago, modulo not getting 100% CPU
16:03:25 <kilobyte> possibly, yeah.  It belongs to XiN.
16:03:58 <Cheibriados> kilobyte * f66f94d4d77e (1 changed): Spend as little time as possible with the milestone lock held.
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16:33:16 <Gretell> nubinia (L3 SENe)  (D:2)
16:33:19 <Gretell> Wark (L27 GhMo)  (Slime:1)
16:33:21 <Gretell> Saegor (L4 GhEE)  (Sewer)
16:33:22 <Gretell> wafflepants (L4 DEWz)  (D:3)
16:33:23 <Gretell> phyphor (L7 MuWz)  (D:5)
16:33:28 <Gretell> MakMorn (L11 FeBe)  (Lair:6)
16:33:30 <Gretell> nooodl (L15 MiBe)  (D:16)
16:33:35 <Gretell> Leafsnail (L3 OgHu)  (D:2)
16:33:38 <Napkin> one game (XiN) blocked all other games again
16:33:40 <Gretell> xw (L3 FeBe)  (D:2)
16:33:42 <phyphor> oh, huh
16:33:45 <Gretell> Cruella (L6 NaSk)  (D:4)
16:33:47 <Gretell> hyperetru1927 (L3 SEEE)  (D:2)
16:33:48 <kilobyte> Napkin: <3 <3 <3
16:33:50 <phyphor> thanks Napkin :)
16:33:51 <Napkin> that needs to be fixed, please :)
16:33:53 <magistern> aweomse
16:33:57 <Gretell> n1000 (L7 MfIE)  (D:6)
16:33:59 <Gretell> soul (L3 DEFE)  (D:3)
16:34:02 <Gretell> ophanim (L15 TrMo)  (Lab)
16:34:04 <Napkin> good evening!
16:34:04 <Gretell> KiloByte (L5 HaAK)  (D:3)
16:34:13 <Napkin> back from vacations
16:34:43 <magistern> woohoo
16:34:56 <kilobyte> Napkin: I just made a commit to limit damage in the future: Crawl won't take the milestone lock until the milestone info is prepared and ready to write
16:35:16 <Napkin> ah, that sounds great :)
16:35:24 <kilobyte> this doesn't answer why Xin's game got stuck and the 60 seconds reaper didn't work, though
16:35:45 <kilobyte> so it'd still need manual intervention, just wouldn't stop other folks
16:35:53 <Napkin> i tried -SEGV and -15, but didn't help, unfortunately
16:36:15 <|amethyst> hm... but it's in state R?
16:38:36 <|amethyst> can you attach with gdb -p  ?
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16:41:28 <kilobyte> not anymore, he's a sysadmin not a necromancer
16:41:44 <|amethyst> oh
16:41:47 <|amethyst> hm
16:42:10 <|amethyst> -15 not working explains why the reaper didn't work
16:42:19 <|amethyst> but of course raises its own questions
16:43:50 <dtsund> !learn add vnapkin Is a sysadmin, not a necromancer.
16:43:51 <Henzell> vnapkin[5/5]: Is a sysadmin, not a necromancer.
16:47:27 <Gretell> xw (L10 FeBe) ERROR in 'stairs.cc' at line 150: portal exit without return destination (IceCv) (IceCv)
16:50:38 <|amethyst> hmm
16:51:51 <kilobyte> how come xw keeps getting this, and no one else does?
16:51:58 <|amethyst> !lm xw crash -log
16:51:58 <Sequell> 10. xw, XL10 FeBe, T:14787 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/xw/crash-xw-20120506-214715.txt
16:54:41 <|amethyst> strange
16:55:28 <|amethyst> the message log last shows killing a kobold
16:56:33 <|amethyst> oh
16:56:48 <|amethyst> those  3220 |||  things are message log, not notes
16:57:28 <|amethyst> !lm xw
16:57:28 <Sequell> 4946. [2012-05-06] xw the Spry (L10 FeBe) ERROR in 'stairs.cc' at line 150: portal exit without return destination (IceCv) (IceCv)
16:57:32 <|amethyst> !lm xw -2
16:57:32 <Sequell> 4945. [2012-05-06] xw the Spry (L10 FeBe) entered an ice cave on turn 14627. (Lair:2)
16:57:53 <|amethyst> !lm xw -3
16:57:53 <Sequell> 4944. [2012-05-06] xw the Spry (L10 FeBe) slain by a blink frog (Lair:2)
16:58:03 <|amethyst> !lm xw -3 x=turn
16:58:04 <Sequell> 4944. [2012-05-06] [turn=14442] xw the Spry (L10 FeBe) slain by a blink frog (Lair:2)
16:58:19 <kilobyte> !lm * type=crash noun=~portal_exit
16:58:20 <Sequell> 1. [2012-05-06] xw the Spry (L10 FeBe) ERROR in 'stairs.cc' at line 150: portal exit without return destination (IceCv) (IceCv)
16:58:25 <kilobyte> !lm * type=crash noun=~portal -2
16:58:25 <Sequell> 4. [2012-05-02] xw the Ducker (L6 FeBe) ERROR in 'stairs.cc' at line 539: no return path from a portal (Sewer) (Sewer)
16:59:13 <dtsund> Perhaps it's somehow felid-exclusive?
16:59:17 <kilobyte> ah, you changed the message during your refactoring, but it's still the same
16:59:29 <kilobyte> !lm * type=crash noun=~portal s=char
16:59:29 <dtsund> Like, maybe if you die in a portal vault the exit gets reset?
16:59:29 <Sequell> 5 milestones for * (type=crash noun=~portal): 5x FeBe
16:59:31 <kilobyte> !lm * type=crash noun=~portal s=name
16:59:31 <Sequell> 5 milestones for * (type=crash noun=~portal): 5x xw
16:59:31 <|amethyst> I was thinking maybe death in the portal vault
16:59:37 <|amethyst> but xw died in lair
16:59:42 <kilobyte> !lm * type=crash noun=~portal s=place
16:59:43 <Sequell> 5 milestones for * (type=crash noun=~portal): 4x Sewer, IceCv
17:00:03 <|amethyst> !lm * type=crash noun=~portal x=gid
17:00:03 <Sequell> 5. [2012-05-06] [game_id=0] xw the Spry (L10 FeBe) ERROR in 'stairs.cc' at line 150: portal exit without return destination (IceCv) (IceCv)
17:00:12 <|amethyst> !lm * type=crash noun=~portal x=gid 1
17:00:21 <Sequell> 1. [2012-04-28] [game_id=0] xw the Nimble (L7 FeBe) ERROR in 'stairs.cc' at line 539: no return path from a portal (Sewer) (Sewer)
17:00:30 <|amethyst> same game even
17:00:38 <|amethyst> !lm xw gid=0
17:00:38 <Sequell> No milestones for xw (gid=0).
17:00:45 <|amethyst> oh, right, that query doesn't work
17:00:48 <|amethyst> FR
17:00:56 <kilobyte> gid=0
17:00:57 <|amethyst> !lm xw gid>0
17:00:58 <Sequell> 4912. [2012-05-06] xw the Ducker (L5 FeBe) blasted by Dowan (stone arrow) (D:5)
17:01:04 <|amethyst> !lm xw gid>0 x=gid
17:01:04 <Sequell> 4912. [2012-05-06] [game_id=1612249] xw the Ducker (L5 FeBe) blasted by Dowan (stone arrow) (D:5)
17:01:18 <|amethyst> !lm xw gid>0 x=gid,src
17:01:18 <Sequell> 4912. [2012-05-06] [game_id=1612249;src=cdo] xw the Ducker (L5 FeBe) blasted by Dowan (stone arrow) (D:5)
17:01:21 <|amethyst> !lm xw x=gid,src
17:01:22 <Sequell> 4946. [2012-05-06] [game_id=0;src=cdo] xw the Spry (L10 FeBe) ERROR in 'stairs.cc' at line 150: portal exit without return destination (IceCv) (IceCv)
17:01:30 <|amethyst> hmm
17:01:33 <|amethyst> !lm xw x=gid,src,cv
17:01:34 <Sequell> 4946. [2012-05-06] [game_id=0;src=cdo;cv=0.11-a] xw the Spry (L10 FeBe) ERROR in 'stairs.cc' at line 150: portal exit without return destination (IceCv) (IceCv)
17:01:40 <|amethyst> !lm xw gid>0 x=gid,src,cv
17:01:40 <Sequell> 4912. [2012-05-06] [game_id=1612249;src=cdo;cv=0.11-a] xw the Ducker (L5 FeBe) blasted by Dowan (stone arrow) (D:5)
17:01:52 <kilobyte> IIRC the gid is retroactively filled in when the game finishes
17:01:57 <|amethyst> !lm xw type=crash noun=~portal x=gid,src,cv 1
17:01:58 <Sequell> 1. [2012-04-28] [game_id=0;src=cdo;cv=0.11-a] xw the Nimble (L7 FeBe) ERROR in 'stairs.cc' at line 539: no return path from a portal (Sewer) (Sewer)
17:02:06 <|amethyst> kilobyte:  and if the game is terminated that doesn't happen?
17:02:42 <|amethyst> yeah, that seems like the only explanation
17:02:49 <kilobyte> I guess that deleted games will be stuck with milestones with unassigned gid, yeah
17:03:55 <|amethyst> hm
17:04:16 <|amethyst> what's the best way to get a natural (not wizard) icecv portal?
17:04:20 <|amethyst> in wizmode
17:04:24 <|amethyst> place the vault?
17:13:34 <kilobyte> yeah, &L*portal_ice_cave_entry_pillars_01
17:13:47 <kilobyte> can't seem to reproduce the crash though
17:15:52 <|amethyst> aha
17:15:57 <|amethyst> it happens when you exit with >
17:20:20 <|amethyst> hm
17:20:25 <|amethyst> but not always
17:21:39 <|amethyst> hm, maybe that's unrelated and it was just a fluke
17:22:20 <|amethyst> the crash is under check_annotation_exclusion_warning() anyway, not up_stairs() or down_stairs()
17:23:05 <|amethyst> as though that is somehow being called between popping the stack and changing the place
17:26:30 <kilobyte> xw uses coroutine.yield(), but even that shouldn't be able to do anything in the middle
17:26:43 <|amethyst> I just got the crash one
17:26:45 <|amethyst> once
17:26:48 <|amethyst> can't repeat it though
17:26:51 <|amethyst> wasn't with a felid
17:27:36 <kilobyte> hrm, right
17:28:22 <Cheibriados> felid (14h) | Spd: 11 | Int: high | HD: 5 | HP: 10-25 | AC/EV: 2/18 | Dam: 10 | 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(40) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 114.

17:28:22 <|amethyst> %??felid
17:28:29 <Cheibriados> Xtahua (05D) | Spd: 10 | Int: normal | HD: 19 | HP: 133 | AC/EV: 15/7 | Dam: 35, 17, 20 | 10doors, see invisible, fly, !sil | Res: 06magic(177), 05fire++, 03poison, 12drown | Vul: 12cold | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 5449 | Sp: flame blast (3d38).

17:28:29 <|amethyst> %??xtahua
17:28:35 <Cheibriados> hungry ghost (03p) | Spd: 10 | Int: normal | HD: 7 | HP: 25-53 | AC/EV: 0/17 | Dam: 502(hunger) | 07undead, 10doors, 04eats corpses, evil, sense invisible, lev | Res: 06magic(37), 02cold++, 03poison, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 185.

17:28:35 <|amethyst> %?? hungry ghost
17:28:39 <Cheibriados> jelly (04J) | Spd: 9 | Int: plant | HD: 3 | HP: 15-30 | AC/EV: 0/2 | Dam: 808(acid:7d3) | 04eats items, amphibious, see invisible | Res: 06magic(12), 03poison, 08acid+++, asphyx, 12drown | XP: 22.

17:28:39 <|amethyst> %?? jelly
17:30:18 <ChrisOelmueller> nice
17:30:43 <|amethyst> should I change "Int:" to "I:" ?
17:31:05 <|amethyst> I guess that would be much less clear
17:31:16 <|amethyst> especially to people unfamiliar with crawl's intelligence scale
17:31:21 <ChrisOelmueller> i wouldn't ("normal" is not exactly clear on its own, yeah)
17:31:55 <|amethyst> kilobyte:  of course, my crash came when I wasn't attached with a debugger
17:32:10 <kilobyte> |amethyst: do you have a core?
17:32:15 <|amethyst> kilobyte:  no :(
17:32:24 <|amethyst> kilobyte:  I have the crash dump, but that's the same as xw's
17:33:27 <kilobyte> these days ulimit -c defaults to 0, I have "ulimit -c unlimited" in .bashrc on all my boxes
17:33:34 <kilobyte> tends to be helpful in such cases
17:33:50 <ophanim> woo, take a nap, wake up, and you guys have fixed cdo
17:33:51 <|amethyst> I should probably do that when running crawl
17:33:53 <ophanim> I should nap more often
17:34:06 <kilobyte> ophanim: works now
17:34:11 <|amethyst> I sometimes have to run buggy programs that I don't want to debug, though :)
17:36:07 <kilobyte> in the worst case, you lose a bit of disk space
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17:39:28 <ophanim> uh, I just crashed again when leaving this labrynth
17:40:22 <|amethyst> hanging again?
17:40:35 <ophanim> no, just crashed
17:40:41 <|amethyst> !lm ophanim
17:40:42 <Sequell> 6238. [2012-05-06] ophanim the Brawler (L15 TrMo) entered a Labyrinth on turn 32498. (Vaults:2)
17:40:46 <|amethyst> !lm ophanim crash
17:40:46 <Sequell> 3. [2012-05-06] ophanim the Brawler (L15 TrMo) ? (Lab)
17:40:53 <|amethyst> !lm ophanim crash -log
17:40:54 <Sequell> 3. ophanim, XL15 TrMo, T:32735 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/ophanim/crash-ophanim-20120506-213341.txt
17:40:55 <ophanim> ? is the best error message
17:41:16 <|amethyst> oh wow
17:41:24 <|amethyst> that one's off by three seconds
17:41:29 <|amethyst> http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/ophanim/crash-ophanim-20120506-223838.txt
17:42:12 <ChrisOelmueller> and an hour and -5 min?
17:42:24 <|amethyst> oh
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17:45:39 <Cheibriados> kilobyte * 10a6c548db23 (1 changed): A range check assertion for invalid branches.
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17:53:53 <|amethyst> kilobyte:  okay, I can reproduce it
17:54:02 <ophanim> thanks kilobyte
17:54:04 <ais523> hmm, I remember a debate about spells usable for digging a while ago (particularly Dig); what do people think of the scroll of shattering effect?
17:54:16 <ais523> from Brogue?
17:54:19 <ais523> as a spell for Crawl?
17:54:47 <ais523> it causes all ordinary walls in LOS at the time you cast it to, gradually over time, first turn translucent then disappear altogether
17:55:08 <ais523> the symmetry makes it rather less abusable than a directed dig, and the time delay means you can't use it for running from combat
17:56:40 <monqy> the symmetry is already captured by shatter, though I don't know how effective it is at actually digging
18:00:42 <|amethyst> kilobyte:  to reproduce the crash:  go to a portal vault, look at the map for a D level (e.g. with ^F), then try to exit
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18:02:51 <|amethyst> kilobyte:  that invokes load_level() doesn't it?
18:03:09 <Gretell> xw (L8 FeBe) ERROR in 'stairs.cc' at line 150: portal exit without return destination (Ossuary) (Ossuary)
18:03:14 <|amethyst> kilobyte:  because of this:
18:03:17 <|amethyst> if (!you.level_stack.empty()
18:03:17 <|amethyst> && you.level_stack.back().id == level_id::current())
18:03:17 <|amethyst> {
18:03:17 <|amethyst> return_pos = you.level_stack.back().pos;
18:03:17 <|amethyst> you.level_stack.pop_back();
18:03:19 <|amethyst> env.level_state |= LSTATE_DELETED;
18:03:22 <|amethyst> }
18:05:57 <Gretell> ophanim (L16 TrMo) ERROR in 'stairs.cc' at line 150: portal exit without return destination (Bazaar) (Bazaar)
18:06:07 <ophanim> I am just like
18:06:11 <ophanim> having the best luck
18:06:23 <|amethyst> ophanim:  hm
18:06:31 <|amethyst> ophanim:  I think I know what the problem is and how to fix it
18:06:32 <|amethyst> but
18:06:39 <|amethyst> that won't fix already-broken saves
18:06:54 <ophanim> lay it to me straight, doc
18:07:02 <ophanim> Am I going to die?
18:07:16 <|amethyst> are you a mummy?
18:07:19 <ophanim> No
18:07:27 <|amethyst> vampire?
18:07:29 <ophanim> No
18:07:32 <ophanim> Troll
18:07:36 <|amethyst> ouch
18:07:51 <|amethyst> unless this bazaar has infinite amounts of food...
18:08:06 <magistern> D:
18:08:13 <|amethyst> because unless we can figure out something to do to fix the saves, you're stuck there forever
18:08:32 <ophanim> I have worked hard on this spellcasting troll of jiyva.
18:08:44 <ophanim> But I have worked harder on other characters and died because I was stupid.
18:08:48 <ophanim> So I wont be upset.
18:08:52 <ChrisOelmueller> jiyva, just buy a lot of ammo and you won't starve
18:08:54 <ophanim> Mock funeral, maybe.
18:09:07 <|amethyst> it would be possible to remove the assert and pop people back to D:1
18:09:28 <|amethyst> but that's not really good for the long term
18:16:32 <ophanim> We'll call it the "dev teleport special"
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18:17:56 <kilobyte> |amethyst: like wizard games, there's the option of dumping him onto D:1
18:18:11 <kilobyte> (and I'm blind, could have noticed that)
18:18:16 <|amethyst> kilobyte:  manually you mean?
18:19:37 <kilobyte> if the game has seen a version older than X, it gets a flag that lets it act like wizmode for stack underflows
18:20:12 <|amethyst> how to test that?
18:20:20 <|amethyst> oh, on load?
18:20:30 <|amethyst> with a minor tag?
18:20:39 <kilobyte> could you push the fix?  I'll do the save shim.
18:20:55 <kilobyte> faster than explaining
18:20:57 <|amethyst> waiting for the compile just to make sure I actually did fix it
18:21:11 <|amethyst> it's almost finished
18:21:14 <Cheibriados> dolorous * acc9e7bfe9be (1 changed): Typo fix.
18:25:29 <|amethyst> pushed
18:26:20 <Cheibriados> |amethyst * 12d4010c5687 (1 changed): Don't mangle the level stack when viewing other branches.
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18:33:23 <kilobyte> Nap King went to bed, the thingy to pull updates from gitorious is still down.  I'll do a manual update, just in case.
18:36:30 <Cheibriados> kilobyte * cd2a2df4b559 (2 changed): Recover games stuck in a portal vault without way out.
18:37:11 <ais523> kilobyte: what does the shim do?
18:37:54 <|amethyst> yay, works
18:38:47 <|amethyst> ais523:  if your save's previous version was earlier than the one that fixed the bug, you get a "ticket_to_D:1" prop
18:39:32 <ais523> |amethyst: if in a portal, or just in everyone's game?
18:39:39 <|amethyst> everyone
18:40:08 <|amethyst> if you have the property, asking "what's the previous level" from a portal vault when the level stack is empty will return D:1 rather than asserting
18:40:13 <BlastHardcheese> aww us stable players don't get fun stuff like that :(
18:41:10 <ophanim> oddly
18:41:13 <ophanim> I didn't get warped to d:1
18:41:19 <ophanim> but I did come out of the bazaar anyway
18:41:22 <HangedMan> fun stuff like being forced to worship xom?
18:41:38 <|amethyst> ophanim:  oh, that makes sense
18:41:54 <|amethyst> ophanim:  you didn't need the shim because you hadn't saved after your level_stack got screwed up
18:43:06 <|amethyst> kilobyte:  I'm still concerned not everything is quite right... are there situations where upstairs_destination() can be called while viewing the other level?
18:43:48 <BlastHardcheese> fr entry vault that forces you to worship xom
18:43:55 <kilobyte> X[] perhaps
18:44:12 <|amethyst> kilobyte:  because then it would give you the top of the level stack rather than the entry above whatever you're looking at
18:45:59 <|amethyst> kilobyte:  hm... seems to work fine actually
18:47:48 <|amethyst> btw, why does  \  not work to cycle among portals on the current level?
18:47:54 <|amethyst> tab does work
18:48:00 <|amethyst> and the code for backslash is there
18:50:41 <|amethyst> oh, it's just not in the keymap
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18:56:49 <Cheibriados> |amethyst * 26e7a8f1be75 (1 changed): Find portals/shop on the map with backslash.
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23:08:04 <Gretell> Debian builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-a0-1713-g26e7a8f
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23:36:17 <|amethyst> onia_entry_zoo_common  has some spelling problems
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23:39:36 <evilmike> oh, it seems to spell "crawt"
23:40:23 <snadge> netbsd builds updated to.. like a boss
23:40:35 <snadge> i stayed up until 5am getting that shit to work :p
23:40:48 <evilmike> or "craal"
23:40:54 <snadge> i wonder if i should submit the patch?
23:40:56 <snadge> its just a makefile patch
23:40:57 <|amethyst> ccraw  actually
23:41:04 <|amethyst> or the things you noted
23:41:28 <evilmike> the SHUFFLE: 12 line should prevent a double 'c'
23:41:29 <|amethyst> there's no problem putting a brain worm or a death drake in there, right?
23:41:44 <|amethyst> evilmike:  no, that makes it  cCraw  or Ccraw
23:41:57 <|amethyst> since the vault reads  12345
23:42:01 <evilmike> oh, right
23:42:24 <snadge> hmm.. ubuntu has crawl 0.9.1
23:42:27 <evilmike> I assume brain worms can't brain feed through glass
23:42:52 <snadge> i'd read the changelog between 0.9.1 and 0.10.2 but.. maybe someone can summarise it as
23:43:07 <snadge> totally worth the update.. the entire universe has changed.. and massive showstopping bugs fixed.. or meh
23:43:22 <evilmike> but yeah, the ant larva should be changed into some other worm, and the crocodile replaced with something else (a drake would work, I was thinking a basilisk would be good too)
23:56:27 <Cheibriados> |amethyst * e73e448c1723 (1 changed): Correct spelling in the zoo.