00:02:12 Pre-release branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.9.0-15-g1b13fe2 (32) 00:13:55 -!- Guest61102 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:13:58 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:14:03 Windows builds of pre-release branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.9.0-15-g1b13fe2 00:14:21 -!- Guest61102 has joined ##crawl-dev 00:26:47 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.10-a0-282-g24ac8ee (32) 00:28:51 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:47:15 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:50:10 Prono the Eclecticist (L18 VpSu) ASSERT(feat < NUM_FEATURES) in 'feature.cc' at line 24 failed on turn 88100. (Abyss) 00:51:53 Still? 01:15:43 -!- diazepan has joined ##crawl-dev 01:15:43 -!- diazepan has quit [Changing host] 01:15:43 -!- diazepan has joined ##crawl-dev 01:19:27 -!- diazepan has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:21:16 -!- diazepan has joined ##crawl-dev 01:22:03 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 01:24:21 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 01:34:19 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 01:39:53 -!- hoody has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:40:01 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 02:09:26 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:09:52 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 02:14:55 -!- hoody has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:18:39 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 02:24:25 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:39:06 -!- galehar has joined ##crawl-dev 02:45:06 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:48:35 damn, I forgot (again) where is the code for knowledge bots 02:48:38 anyone? 02:48:40 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 02:53:03 ??source 02:53:03 source[1/5]: Browse the Git repository at http://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl 02:53:10 it's in there somewhere 02:53:12 ??source[2] 02:53:12 source[2/5]: For bleeding edge, it's on the "master" branch in {git}. For the stable branch, check out "stone_soup-0.8" 02:53:15 ??source[3] 02:53:16 source[3/5]: Finally, if you want the source for *this bot*, go here: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/henzell/src/ or git clone http://crawl.akrasiac.org/henzell/src/henzell/.git 02:53:18 ??source[4] 02:53:18 source[4/5]: Read this _before_ editing spoilers 02:53:20 ??source[5] 02:53:20 source[5/5]: For Ashenzari the bug-reporting bot, http://github.com/doy/crawlbot 02:53:47 -!- |amethyst has joined ##crawl-dev 02:55:22 -!- diazepan has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:57:59 thanks 02:59:03 hey due, how would you like door mimics randomly opening and closing? 02:59:26 sounds good! 02:59:37 * due just about to try getting crawl compiling on the arachos :) 02:59:51 let me know how that work out 03:02:09 -!- prono_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:05:14 Latest git crash : Prono the Eclecticist (L18 VpSu) ASSERT(feat < NUM FEATURES) in 'feature.cc' at line 24 failed on turn 88100. (Abyss) 03:05:56 Heh, yay overflow! 03:06:27 how can I fix savegame ? Its on crawl.akrasiac.org 03:08:17 Prono the Eclecticist (L18 VpSu) ASSERT(feat < NUM_FEATURES) in 'feature.cc' at line 24 failed on turn 88100. (Abyss) 03:09:17 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 03:09:31 https://crawl.akrasiac.org/saves/dumps/Prono-crawl-git-24ac8eed43-110819-0408.tar.bz2 03:16:08 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 03:33:46 !lm * crash -log 03:33:46 1422. Prono, XL18 VpSu, T:88100 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Prono/crash-Prono-20110819-080816.txt 03:35:58 does anyone have rights to dl save files from CAO? 03:39:21 hm 03:39:46 I should but not on this machine, sorry. 03:45:50 I'm looking for the code which generates monsters' stat for the learndb. Is it with henzell's code? I can't find it. 03:52:00 hmm. 03:52:11 no, thatss in mooonstsrrr.. 03:55:18 playing crawl on my tablet :) 03:56:33 hm. 03:57:56 console or tiles on the tablet? 03:58:07 and where can I find the monster code? 04:00:02 console currently. 04:00:12 its on cdo. 04:00:25 ??source[3] 04:00:25 source[3/5]: Finally, if you want the source for *this bot*, go here: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/henzell/src/ or git clone http://crawl.akrasiac.org/henzell/src/henzell/.git 04:00:33 oh, hm. 04:00:40 ??gretell 04:00:41 gretell[1/3]: The counterpart to Henzell, for crawl.develz.org. Only accepts @whereis, @?, and @?? from IRC. The evil twin of Henzell. Now accepts inquiries on PM. Currently @? points at old 0.8 trunk due to code rot. Sorry! 04:00:51 ??gretell[2] 04:00:51 gretell[2/3]: While Gretell is down, you can check out http://chaosforge.org/crawl/index.php?title=Monsters or http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/kielosto/crawl_spoilers/ss/crawl_ss_monsters_by_name.html 04:00:59 ??gretell[3] 04:00:59 gretell[3/3]: Code available at http://git.develz.org/?p=gretell.git or git://git.develz.org/gretell.git 04:01:08 try monster.git 04:04:14 it works, thanks :) 04:08:50 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:10:48 hm. difficult to play crawl with this onscreen keyboard; i don't have the real estate. 04:10:58 -!- galehar has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:24:13 -!- Textmode has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:35:16 -!- cbus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:36:02 -!- cbus has joined ##crawl-dev 04:36:50 -!- joosa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:36:57 -!- joosa has joined ##crawl-dev 04:40:01 it might be nice to provide a low-res console set of options for <80x24. 05:06:57 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 05:07:01 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:07:44 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 05:11:41 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:57:43 -!- monqy has quit [Quit: hello] 06:02:19 due: it'd take some work to alter all the new interfaces 06:03:13 due: on the other hand, Crawl used to work on 60x24 with the default settings, and even smaller with config file tweaking, as recently as 0.7 06:03:27 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:03:41 yeah. 06:04:33 kilobyte: still waiting on a folding keyboard so having to suffice with the on-screen 06:10:02 I just got an e-book reader yesterday. 06:10:16 I can't imagine trying to do any work on an on-scren keyboard. 06:14:29 ghallberg: well, i'm using a 10.1" touch screen 06:15:24 Hmm yeah I guess that's different, but the typing speed still suffers. 06:15:38 I'm loving my latest laptop though. So no tablet for me. 06:15:46 -!- ortoslon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:18:24 -!- galehar has joined ##crawl-dev 06:22:06 03kilobyte * r6f8bfe566dcc 10/crawl-ref/source/test/stress/ (fireworks.rc run unwoken_rest.rc woken_rest woken_rest.rc): Canned hands-off scenarios for valgrind, performance tests, etc. 06:22:16 03dshackspam * r466e2c9fbad2 10/crawl-ref/source/shopping.cc: Implement "Improve on Shop Modes". 06:22:17 03galehar 07mimics * rf4cbfe6a8708 10/crawl-ref/source/ (menu.cc mon-util.cc tilepick.cc): Fix the display of feature mimics in ^X screen. 06:22:17 03galehar * r18d2f67ae1fc 10/crawl-ref/source/shopping.cc: Artefacts are always displayed in white in shops. 06:31:36 Prono the Eclecticist (L18 VpSu) ASSERT(feat < NUM_FEATURES) in 'feature.cc' at line 24 failed on turn 88100. (Abyss) 06:32:01 -!- MarvinPA_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:40:19 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 06:46:38 -!- galehar has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:48:06 03galehar * r63f6258551fe 10/crawl-ref/source/items.cc: Improve code readability. 06:48:19 03galehar * rbb6a308b7a4a 10/crawl-ref/source/items.cc: Confirm before picking up gold whith ; when unsafe (#4413). 06:49:31 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:54:06 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 06:54:11 hi 06:54:14 moin 07:07:19 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 07:07:37 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 07:07:59 Swiftness not always working when magically slowed (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4416) by Nexos 07:08:59 does anyone have rights to dl save files from CAO? I have crashed game there. 07:09:32 -!- greensnark has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:10:32 -!- greensnark has joined ##crawl-dev 07:10:45 greensnark!!!! 07:10:55 The usage statistics on CAO is broken! 07:20:03 hm, perhaps he isn't really around :) 07:25:41 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:28:34 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 07:31:59 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:34:06 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:42:21 -!- galehar has joined ##crawl-dev 07:43:56 galehar: should I explain here what I meant with the modes? 07:44:11 wait 07:46:08 what modes? 07:48:05 buy/examine, travel/examine etc 07:48:27 we've got a patch which highlights shop modes with colours, and you spoke up against the colouring 07:57:14 I didn't realise the new colouring was only in description mode 07:57:24 I applied the patch earlier and closed the mantis 07:57:30 ah, cool 07:58:11 I understand that colours can be too much, but I think I know what we're doing here 07:58:33 we really need to document inventory and spell colours 07:58:44 I agree 07:58:56 inventory should have its own help screen 08:03:05 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:03:30 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 08:04:14 -!- hoody has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:04:19 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 08:09:17 Yes. For now, inventory help is called with _ and gives the drop/pickup help 08:09:28 okay 08:09:46 one problem is that the colours can not be listed in a plain text 08:10:28 in-game help screens support colours 08:10:46 like the one you recently wrote for the skill screen 08:11:03 the colour meaning has been collected here: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:item:classification#descriptive_item_colors 08:11:34 I meant that players can redefine colours in their options. 08:11:41 Or shouldn't we care about that? 08:11:44 appart from colours, there's not much to say about the inventory. Maybe some generality and how to jump to sections using item glyphs 08:13:34 let's document the default config. We can say from the help that it's just the default and that it can be changed by editing menu_colours.txt 08:14:38 hint/tutorial can also mention item destruction and how it is best to keep cyan items at the stash and not carry too many yellow items. 08:27:19 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 08:27:28 alright 08:28:07 I can make a page right after this Demonspawn of Death has left Zot, dead or alive. 08:32:45 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:34:39 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 08:35:40 -!- MarvinPA_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:36:23 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:38:43 who I can contact witch to check my corrupted savegame ? 08:40:33 prono_: sorry but it seems no one around has rights to download saves on CAO 08:41:02 how can I contact with comeone from CAO ? 08:42:13 I think there is rax and Napkin (not devs) and greensnark (rarely seen) 08:42:32 due said he has credentials but from another computer, so maybe later 08:43:25 ok 08:45:40 I can grad the savegame, but I can't really do anything with it. 08:45:53 Er, grab. 08:46:07 What's the username and version? 08:48:59 rax, the problem is that we don't have the credentials to access the saves that players back up using dgl 08:51:14 Zaba: We should be able to work up a long-term solution to that problem! THough maybe not while I am having breakfast before class. :) 08:51:32 But either a cronjob that copies them somewhere easy, or emails them somewhere, or a limited-access account that can grab them, or something. 08:51:36 There's a few ways we could do it. 08:51:59 I think cdo uses the logins from mantis... or dgl logins? I forget. 08:52:07 either way, it works from cdo 08:52:11 Well, I don't have access to the mantis logins. 08:52:26 It might be possible to do it through dgl, I'm not sure. 08:52:35 (Well, I mean, it's code, so it's _possible_, but I don't know if it's a good idea. :) 08:52:51 Actually we might just be able to copy them to CDO. 08:52:58 That might be the easiest way to go. :P 08:53:08 I'll have to talk to Napkin. 08:55:18 Prono the Eclecticist (L18 VpSu) ASSERT(feat < NUM FEATURES) in 'feature.cc' at line 24 failed on turn 88100. (Abyss) 08:55:20 soudns good to me, rax 08:55:29 https://crawl.akrasiac.org/saves/dumps/Prono-crawl-git-24ac8eed43-110819-0408.tar.bz2 08:55:36 thx rax 08:56:04 I can check savegame myself If its ok 08:56:18 bu I have to get if first ;) 08:56:26 that url prompts for a username/password.. but -what- username/password? Apparently due has it, though. 08:59:05 -!- Marsh-P has joined ##crawl-dev 08:59:52 Quick Q - If I want to get involved, is vaults and flavour text still the best way, as in the docs? 09:00:47 -!- prono_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:02:28 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:02:45 -!- greatzebu has joined ##crawl-dev 09:03:18 Marsh-P: those are always good, yes 09:06:19 Ah - found the wiki too. Okay, will start reading. 09:06:39 -!- Marsh-P has left ##crawl-dev 09:11:44 any mac users out there: i am still looking for people to test out my 0.9.0 mac binaries at http://charm.cs.illinois.edu/~abecker/crawl/ 09:12:19 dpeg: about item colours: what would you say about outlawing colour overrides for non-randarts? I mean, necromancer robes masquerade as helmets, angel/wight robes as cloaks, etc. 09:12:53 kilobyte: yes, I am not sure if the flavour gain is worth it. 09:13:56 if we had more colours, we could do something... but we don't, so we should stick to the colour rules we have, agreed 09:16:14 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:19:08 -!- st_ has quit [] 09:21:03 kilobyte: dpeg I was gonna mention that the other day, wraith-robes looking like cloaks is wierd 09:21:25 !learn add todo_monsters vampire squid 09:21:25 todo monsters[11/11]: vampire squid 09:22:45 Huh. _I_ don't know that user/pass either. 09:22:53 I can just go get the file though. 09:23:44 ...orrrr it's not in the directory structure? What? 09:24:49 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:25:29 In the long term there is a way better way to do this 09:25:41 But since I ahve like five minutes, crawl.akrasiac.org/Prono-tmp.tar.bz2 09:32:17 thanks rax! 09:45:48 On the shop mode colours patch -- I thought about putting something even more obvious like a header line but was afraid it would have unwanted side effects like not being able to show all the stock on a normal size screen 09:59:43 -!- prono_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:01:39 Prono the Eclecticist (L18 VpSu) ASSERT(feat < NUM_FEATURES) in 'feature.cc' at line 24 failed on turn 88100. (Abyss) 10:12:08 03dolorous * r7d48f59a6454 10/crawl-ref/source/enum.h: Comment fix. 10:18:25 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:31:15 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 10:44:02 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 10:49:57 prono_: anything noteworthy in LOS when you were banished? 10:51:27 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:54:44 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 11:02:28 -!- galehar has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:03:28 -!- prono_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:07:37 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:08:02 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 11:12:19 -!- hoody has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:38:50 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 11:44:58 -!- upsy has joined ##crawl-dev 11:50:46 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:53:49 Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.9.0-15-g1b13fe2 (32) 11:54:09 03MarvinPA * rcd59c336fff6 10/crawl-ref/source/dungeon.cc: Don't make Pan/Abyss floors the same colour as silence auras or haloes 12:10:36 -!- hoody has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:11:01 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 12:14:01 -!- Guest61102 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:15:46 -!- hoody has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:17:00 -!- Twilight has joined ##crawl-dev 12:17:26 -!- Twilight is now known as Guest49303 12:23:48 -still- no webtiles? I dare say this tournament was poorly planned. 12:24:26 until when is the tournament? 12:24:42 tournament ends Aug 29 12:24:54 ok 12:25:29 Clan freeze is Aug 21 12:26:38 is zot defence or sprint in any way related to the tourney, elliptic? 12:26:40 richardhawk: webtiles has nothing to do with the clan freeze in case you are confused about that... clans must be set up in CAO console regardless of where you are actually going to play 12:26:43 napkin: not this time 12:27:09 good 12:29:51 we'd need a good new sprint map, and no one bothered 12:30:26 and zotdef kind of sucks at the moment 12:30:35 last year people seemed to be in favor of having separate sprint tournaments anyway 12:31:05 i'll save all DGL games now and block access for few minutes 12:31:36 or at least one shifted compared to the main one, so you don't need to choose between competing for a first regular game or a first sprint 12:33:27 elliptic: there's a problem with the Saint banner. If you are not a part of a clan, you can get the banner for free by making an one-man clan. 12:33:37 kilobyte: why is that a problem 12:34:26 aren't the banners supposed to reward some effort rather than writing a line in the config file? 12:34:59 well, encouraging people to join clans seems like a good thing to me even if they are one-person clans... they still have to pick a name :P 12:35:04 napkin, you there mate? 12:35:08 napkin, is CDO down? 12:35:28 19:31 <+Napkin> i'll save all DGL games now and block access for few minutes 12:35:32 ahh oki :) 12:35:35 sorry just got back 12:35:37 was out eating 12:36:56 kilobyte: also you still need to get 100 points... which only 179 players have done so far (out of 500+) 12:37:11 so it isn't completely free 12:37:53 it certainly isn't my favorite banner, though 12:39:32 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 12:42:21 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 12:49:42 ok, i think everything's back 12:50:07 *plays* 12:53:21 please let me know if something has a wrong label or something like that 12:53:42 adding a new version has become quite a pain 12:55:13 D-: 12:55:54 hmm.. anyone able to access http://crawl.seleniac.org/webstatus/index.html ? 12:56:09 !tell wensley online player status is down - beep me :) 12:56:10 Napkin: OK, I'll let wensley know. 12:58:23 nope: Cannot resolve hostname (crawl.seleniac.org) 12:58:31 thanks :) 12:59:14 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:59:26 I think it moved to http://seleniac.org/crawl/webstatus/index.html - but that doesn't seem to be working anyway 13:00:18 but it resolves. it hangs "Loading games..." though 13:00:28 yeah 13:02:02 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.10-a0-289-gcd59c33 (32) 13:03:59 Prono the Eclecticist (L18 VpSu) ASSERT(feat < NUM_FEATURES) in 'feature.cc' at line 24 failed on turn 88100. (Abyss) 13:04:43 oh, very nice crash messages 13:05:18 kilobyte, do you know if 0.9 contains all webtiles modifications? 13:06:37 -!- Euph0riaX has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:23:27 Stable branch on tiles.crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.9.0-15-g1b13fe2 (32) 13:23:37 will be enabled after pizza! 13:29:16 -!- ZorbaBeta has joined ##crawl-dev 13:29:37 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:30:02 -!- Jude has joined ##crawl-dev 13:30:19 due! 13:30:24 -!- DaneiTWO has joined ##crawl-dev 13:33:55 -!- cbus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:35:01 -!- upsy_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:36:30 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 13:38:29 -!- Pacra has quit [*.net *.split] 13:38:29 -!- upsy has quit [*.net *.split] 13:38:29 -!- elliptic has quit [*.net *.split] 13:38:30 -!- cbus has quit [*.net *.split] 13:38:30 -!- varmin has quit [*.net *.split] 13:38:35 -!- Sequell has quit [*.net *.split] 13:38:35 -!- Danei has quit [*.net *.split] 13:38:35 -!- ZorbaTHut has quit [*.net *.split] 13:38:35 -!- due has quit [*.net *.split] 13:38:39 -!- cbus_ is now known as cbus 13:38:51 -!- varmin has joined ##crawl-dev 13:39:07 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 13:39:35 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 13:45:05 napkin: where are milestones/games for 0.9 webtiles going? 13:45:20 in the same file as trunk 13:45:27 no 13:45:37 milestones & logfile is the same file as trunk 13:45:42 games are of course in 0.9 13:45:47 I meant logfile, yeah 13:45:50 separate 0.9 folder 13:46:16 okay, cool, that should mean that I won't even have to update tourney scripts for them to be counted :) 13:46:19 since there is noone to adjust the stats grabbing scripts, i decided for -svn 13:46:24 exactly :) 13:46:50 yeah, currently the 0.9 CAO games aren't being counted in those scripts 13:46:54 for exactly that reason 13:47:24 i remember greensnark telling me once, that he name of the milestones/logfile doesn't matter anymore 13:47:54 because the version string in the entries are properly show what version is played 13:47:58 but, elliptic 13:48:13 i think the webtiles got a separate string as version, didn't they? 13:48:26 do your scripts take that into account? 13:48:33 I'll see... I think it should be fine as long as it starts 0.9 13:48:46 well, i hope so ;) 13:50:02 so... seems to work - people playing 0.8 and 0.9 13:51:38 -!- prono has joined ##crawl-dev 13:52:47 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:53:16 -!- prono has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:54:58 all right, scripts seem to be fine aside from the minor issue that the morgue links they give for webtiles are wrong 13:55:14 but I don't have the time to fix that right now :/ 13:55:30 actually, that will be quite tricky 13:55:32 you need to test 13:56:02 there is a new tiles field that records whether a game/milestone is webtiles 13:56:23 so I could use that... but not sure I will have the time before end of tourney 13:57:31 if anything serious goes wrong with the tourney scripts, I'll try to fix it... but it might take a couple days 13:57:33 ??tournament 13:57:34 tournament[1/3]: The Aug 2011 tourney will be 00:00 Sat 13 Aug - 00:00 Mon 29 Aug. See http://crawl.akrasiac.org/tourney11/ for the rules. Questions -> elliptic. 13:57:42 ah, you meant those 13:57:51 i meant the 0.9 games on CDO 13:58:18 half of the morgues are in trunk, the upcoming ones will be in 0.9 folder 13:58:34 *0.9 games on DGL CDO 13:58:40 oh, I see, problem with non-webtiles also 13:58:50 let me see how hard it is to check the date 13:59:24 I need to leave in 10-15 minutes though :/ 14:03:10 nothing that can't wait, elliptic 14:05:48 http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/webtiles-at-0-9-finally 14:07:05 I don't need to touch CDO rc file for my games to register as tournament, right? 14:07:10 no 14:07:28 the only rcfile you need to touch is the CAO 0.9 rcfile and that's only for clan setup 14:07:39 Okay good. Demonic crawlers finally gonna get some points. Thanks Napkin! 14:09:11 !learn edit tournament[1] s/Questions.*$/elliptic will be gone for the remainder of the tourney, but if anything goes wrong then e-mail him at hyperelliptical at gmail dot com and he might be able to fix it./ 14:09:19 tournament[1/3]: The Aug 2011 tourney will be 00:00 Sat 13 Aug - 00:00 Mon 29 Aug. See http://crawl.akrasiac.org/tourney11/ for the rules. elliptic will be gone for the remainder of the tourney, but if anything goes wrong then e-mail him at hyperelliptical at gmail dot com and he might be able to fix it. 14:17:06 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:18:42 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 14:18:47 -!- ortoslon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:25:49 okay, morgue link issue hopefully fixed 14:27:03 actually leaving now! will be back shortly after tourney end 14:27:09 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:50:32 Can't move on keyboard numbers if enemy nearby (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4417) by Optimist 15:06:07 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 15:06:32 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:07:52 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 15:14:02 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:17:15 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:29:02 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 15:42:45 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 15:47:44 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 15:49:52 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:51:07 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 16:00:07 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 16:00:56 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 16:05:11 -!- Jude is now known as due 16:05:17 didgalehar get the save file? 16:13:10 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 16:18:18 -!- MarvinPA_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:32:19 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 16:43:00 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 16:46:37 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:47:15 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 16:51:28 -!- hoody has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:00:40 wow, seriously? 7824 registered players on CDO? :-O 17:00:41 Napkin: You have 9 messages. Use !messages to read them. 17:00:43 hey Wensley! 17:00:56 Hey Napkin! 17:01:04 I need your help :D 17:01:14 Napkin: happy to assist :) 17:01:16 http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/player-status ;) 17:01:37 oh that well erm hrm *tugs at collar* 17:01:45 dns :P 17:02:01 no, the dns issues have resolved (thank god), I think I just don't have php installed 17:02:10 and then I need to figure out how the hell apache virtual hosts work 17:02:19 i'm getting dns lookup fail from here 17:02:20 :P 17:02:22 oh, that's not so difficult :) 17:02:45 well, in the status page, not separately in its own tab 17:03:08 Zannick: because without virtual hosts, the subdomain won't resolve :P the page *exists* at http://seleniac.org/crawl/webstatus/ 17:03:26 ah 17:03:41 but the page itself is a lie, because it is not actually loading anything because I assumed that php had been installed by default 17:03:44 http://seleniac.org/crawl/webstatus/index.html shows a "Loading games", but probably missing something 17:03:51 :D 17:03:58 you are a sleuth :) 17:04:09 how about I install it on CDO? 17:04:24 Napkin: that would be cool! 17:04:27 did you have time to gitize it? :D 17:04:32 Napkin: sure did 17:04:40 awesome! link me :) 17:04:58 https://github.com/Wensleydale/CDO-webstatus 17:05:41 Napkin: actually, installing on cdo might not work... 17:05:52 anything i need to adjust? 17:05:55 Napkin: I was in the middle of removing all my global variables and making css be self-contained 17:05:59 when my server exploded 17:06:16 well, go ahead and continue :) 17:06:31 git makes it easy to update 17:06:39 Napkin: I'll make this my top priority, especially if you upgrade CAO so that I can include the stats there too :) 17:07:11 oh, CAO is another game 17:07:17 haha 17:07:22 for now i'm glad i had time and motivation to upgrade CDO ;) 17:07:59 I thought it was a matter of simply upgrading dgl... sorry to hear that it's not quite that simple 17:08:07 i read that rax gave me root permissions, but i still need to find out how to become root ;) 17:08:32 well, if i understood correctly, there is more to do than just getting the status working 17:08:37 haha, I'm not entirely sure how to become root on my own server, in certain circumstances, so... :P 17:08:49 what distri? 17:09:02 Napkin: typically, you type sudo, then your own password when prompted 17:09:10 centos (there was no option) 17:09:16 because if root access was done via su, you'd need more information than "you've been made root" to become root 17:09:34 exactly, ais523 17:10:04 but i doubt she did sudo.. at least i hope so 17:10:58 well, you can always try and see if it works 17:11:00 that's really the most common way to give root access 17:11:08 and updating the sudo list isn't hard 17:11:14 but it's sucky 17:11:17 especially if you use visudo to avoid screwing it up 17:11:20 how is sudo sucky 17:12:01 no agent forwarding, need to type password, etc 17:12:19 you can set up sudo nopasswd 17:12:34 also I don't know what agent forwarding is but I'm sure there's a command option for it 17:12:55 yeah, right.. nopasswd would be even worse 17:13:04 hm? 17:13:12 it's not a single user desktop 17:13:13 that means you don't have to type your password 17:13:24 to do sudo 17:13:29 security does matter 17:14:21 all nopasswd means is that for a given sudoers entry that user won't have to type their password for the given commands 17:14:22 anyways, i'm not at work.. i don't want to argue about negatives of sudo :-P 17:14:35 not that any user can do sudo without a password 17:14:49 yeah.. so my account is compromised and tadaa - root access as well, great idea 17:14:58 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 17:14:59 nono 17:16:06 Napkin: I have debian running on my tablet! :D 17:16:18 awesome! :D 17:16:36 Wensley? looks ok, apart from the courier font: http://crawl.develz.org/status/ 17:16:37 i set sudo on this machine (that i irc from) to be nopasswd if i'm logged in from my lan 17:16:48 It would be awesome if one could let one’s slaves pick up everything they want but then tell them to give items they’re carrying to you. 17:17:07 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:17:31 Napkin: oops, guess I forgot to commit the font file 17:17:37 will remedy now 17:17:37 don't do that 17:17:46 ? 17:18:02 or.. well.. what license does veramono have? 17:18:05 it's an open-source font 17:18:12 at least, pretty sure, I will check once more 17:18:17 and then commit the license as well 17:18:23 don't forget to add.. exactly 17:18:29 :) 17:21:45 Also, FR: unique elephant named Dumbo. He can fly. 17:23:40 0.9 webtiles :) 17:23:43 thanks Napkin :) 17:23:48 edlothiol :) 17:23:51 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 17:24:29 and wow, quite a lot of players now 17:26:59 Wensley: let's switch to this: http://dejavu-fonts.org/wiki/Main_Page 17:27:52 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:27:59 here's the vera mono (called bitstream vera) license: http://www-old.gnome.org/fonts/#Final_Bitstream_Vera_Fonts 17:28:27 yeah, dejavu is based on it: http://dejavu-fonts.org/wiki/License 17:28:42 actually, almost identical - but still being developed 17:29:14 Napkin: I've hear good things about a font called Inconsolata 17:29:33 http://www.levien.com/type/myfonts/inconsolata.html 17:29:38 yeah, not so bad, but looks fuzzy sometimes when a small size is selected 17:30:13 looks awesome only on white background, i thought 17:31:06 ah 17:33:49 downloaded the dejavu archive, and it turns out I already had a copy of the exact same archive in my downloads directory... a very apropos font name :P 17:33:59 hehe 17:34:42 I must have downloaded it while looking for a font for the webstatus page... not sure why I didn't choose to use it at the time 17:37:16 ah, here, example on black background, Wensley: http://nodnod.net/2009/feb/12/adding-straight-single-and-double-quotes-inconsola/ 17:38:59 Inconsolata is a ripoff of Consolas, one of the few good things that came from^W^Wwere bought by Microsoft. 17:39:13 hehe 17:39:22 which is the font I use everywhere 17:39:50 -!- gyges has joined ##crawl-dev 17:40:09 naj, consolas has the same problem.. fuzzy when small, i think 17:40:21 not as good at smaller sizes, though (I always use maximized windows) 17:40:29 yeah, probably 17:40:46 yeah, looks awesome >14 17:40:56 and easy to read 17:41:14 absolutely relies on antialiasing, too... without it it's one of worst fonts around 17:41:29 like so many 17:42:35 Wensley, hurry up.. gotta grab some sleep ;> 17:42:46 Napkin: just trying it out, it looks good :) 17:42:49 will upload now 17:43:12 -!- gyges is now known as idiolect 17:43:35 Napkin: not seeing a license anywhere... 17:43:44 http://dejavu-fonts.org/wiki/License 17:46:23 -!- gnsh has joined ##crawl-dev 17:47:06 haha, I have no idea what my ssh passphrase is 17:47:25 one sec, sorry 17:47:50 you were too close when the server exploded?! ;-P 17:49:08 aha, got it :) 17:49:48 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 17:50:28 Napkin: that *should* work... although the working status of my last committed working copy is a mystery to me :P 17:50:40 I will continue working on this 17:50:47 checking ;) 17:53:50 seems to work fine :) 17:53:58 okay, phew 17:54:07 I will work on getting it into shape where it can be embedded in the page 18:00:05 cool :) 18:00:17 i'm serving the working tree directly 18:00:25 so it'll be very easy to update 18:01:15 Napkin: awesome 18:01:20 get some sleep! 18:01:38 well.. you took so long, i started another episode of weeds ;) 18:03:35 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 18:05:55 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:06:19 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 18:10:02 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 18:10:56 -!- hoody has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:11:23 edlothiol: http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/webtiles-at-0-9-finally#comment-680 18:15:35 kilobyte, are you still in? 18:15:39 :) 18:15:56 Napkin, do you still have 100 as the connection number limit? 18:16:07 probably, yeah 18:16:12 too little? 18:16:52 I'm getting connection limit reached 18:16:59 oh wow 18:17:25 are spectators counted too? 18:17:35 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:17:44 yeah, even people in the lobby are counted 18:18:39 300 now 18:18:54 great ;) 18:19:42 I should implement a way to reload the server config without restarting the server 18:19:42 i'm having a bit of trouble with the dglwhere writer 18:19:52 definitely, edlothiol :) 18:20:15 seems like the .where file is not written early enough anymore 18:21:04 edlothiol: is the call to dgl-init done early enough? 18:21:33 is server.py waiting until the execution of it finished? 18:22:53 hm, you mean the user init script? if so, yes 18:23:11 there is definitely a problem 18:23:39 either it's because crawl process writes the .where file too late or the morgue folder is not created early enough 18:24:36 and since it seems that only newly created accounts of web cause this problem, i think it's the morgue folder 18:26:41