00:09:36 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.10-a0-27-g06019c7 (32) 00:32:34 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 01:03:22 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:03:47 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 01:05:38 -!- hoody has quit [Read error: No route to host] 01:05:38 -!- hoody_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:31:49 -!- hoody_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:32:14 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 01:36:29 -!- hoody has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:14:03 -!- Zaba has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 02:14:57 -!- monqy has quit [Quit: hello] 02:24:05 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 02:27:28 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:41:22 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 02:46:38 -!- Garhauk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:47:10 -!- Garhauk has joined ##crawl-dev 02:47:43 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 02:52:02 -!- Garhauk has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:52:50 -!- Garhauk has joined ##crawl-dev 03:10:35 03MarvinPA 07stone_soup-0.9 * r26a5b583ff45 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/database/insult.txt: Add LexAckson's felid insults 03:10:35 03MarvinPA 07stone_soup-0.9 * rfe7b5df6b011 10/crawl-ref/source/shout.cc: Don't let muted monsters shout 03:10:36 03MarvinPA 07stone_soup-0.9 * r751e4ec006c9 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/entry/small.des: Remove uniques from an entry vault 03:10:36 03MarvinPA 07stone_soup-0.9 * r313f0df73a9c 10/crawl-ref/source/spl-selfench.cc: Reword the shroud of Golubria recast messages 03:10:36 03MarvinPA 07stone_soup-0.9 * r39fa49f4fb86 10/crawl-ref/source/ (beam.cc mon-cast.cc): Don't affect same-aligned monsters with Cause Fear, reduce message spam 03:10:36 03dolorous 07stone_soup-0.9 * r5ef4a3486885 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h: Lightning spires are artificial, but not artificial *beings* per se. 03:10:37 03dolorous 07stone_soup-0.9 * rf2812f2fb739 10/crawl-ref/source/abl-show.cc: Reword the Yred injury mirror message, a la the Shroud of Golubria one. 03:10:37 03MarvinPA 07stone_soup-0.9 * r19020db2fea8 10/crawl-ref/source/evoke.cc: Allow cancelling Manual prompts with esc 03:10:37 03dolorous 07stone_soup-0.9 * re6a71b9b04fe 10/crawl-ref/source/fight.cc: Fix Mantis 4309: Properly use unarmed claw attack messages again. 03:10:43 03galehar 07stone_soup-0.9 * r8b2041a0c337 10/crawl-ref/source/skill_menu.cc: Fix incorrect use of the SKMF_CHANGED flag. 03:10:43 03galehar 07stone_soup-0.9 * ra41f7e5a3417 10/crawl-ref/source/spl-cast.cc: Fix some inconsistent spell casting checks (#4308). 03:10:44 03galehar 07stone_soup-0.9 * r9d8cc32262a2 10/crawl-ref/source/ (10 files): Allow choosing skills to train after using a card/potion of experience. 03:10:44 03galehar 07stone_soup-0.9 * ra31316581e6c 10/crawl-ref/source/ (8 files): Save skill menu states as normal members of Player instead of using props. 03:10:45 03galehar 07stone_soup-0.9 * r3a8767703890 10/crawl-ref/source/output.cc: Show percentage of progress to next level instead of experience points. 03:24:01 !seen greensnark 03:24:02 I last saw greensnark at Mon Jul 11 09:40:49 2011 UTC (1w 4d 22h 43m 12s ago) joining the channel. 03:40:20 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:08:25 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:19:24 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:23:03 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:43:10 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 04:46:41 morning people 04:47:05 can you tell me when the first dcss or maybe even old crawl online tournament was done? 04:50:00 hm, rax would presumably know? 04:50:09 !lg min=start 04:50:11 1381. bookofjude the Conjurer (L7 DECj), killed by your miscasting Bolt of Magma on D:5 on 2009-01-06, with 973 points after 6362 turns and 2:14:07. 04:50:23 There was one in '08; possibly this was the first. 04:52:24 ah, thx 04:56:51 -!- moocowpong1 has quit [Quit: moocowpong1] 05:12:17 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 05:33:22 -!- upsy has joined ##crawl-dev 05:47:34 -!- RichardHawk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:47:47 -!- RichardHawk has joined ##crawl-dev 05:50:12 -!- bmh has joined ##crawl-dev 05:50:19 -!- bmh has quit [Changing host] 05:50:20 -!- bmh has joined ##crawl-dev 05:51:12 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 05:51:27 morning'ish 06:15:52 -!- evilmike has quit [Quit: :(){ :|:& };:] 06:20:00 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:37:22 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 06:53:18 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:16:11 Random, occasional crash in most recent master (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4311) by elderman 07:18:57 -!- elderman has joined ##crawl-dev 07:19:54 hey 07:20:01 elderman: are you playing with new abyss enabled? 07:20:59 bmh, I don't know? 07:21:17 I haven't actively enabled anything 07:21:23 I built TILES=y 07:21:25 elderman: does it change all the time or does it jump drastically every so often? 07:21:36 it changes every 5 steps or so 07:21:41 ok, new abyss 07:21:43 maybe every 10 07:22:01 on average every 10th turn. 07:22:29 certainly more frequently than I remember last time I was here 07:22:32 er, there 07:23:10 I should have tested tiles. 07:23:40 Any more information I can give you? 07:24:31 to build you run: `make TILES=y`? 07:24:39 exactly 07:24:59 ok, I'll try to reproduce it, though I'm on OSX. Hope it doesn't make a difference 07:25:52 back in a bit, building takes a long time. 07:25:56 I have to run out for a bit, but will be back in about 30 mins. 07:31:55 -!- ortoslon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:33:59 elderman: great timing, I'm making bread :) 07:57:06 whoa, desktop tiles is so neat. 07:59:05 -!- syllogism has quit [] 08:07:57 bmh, see now, that's fancy. I'm just making pasta. 08:08:25 awesome. The *.cs file, that's your save? 08:08:34 Yes. 08:08:52 …where do I put it? 08:09:41 In linux, the directory tree runs: crawl/crawl-ref/source/saves 08:10:13 not so in OSX :-\ 08:10:38 hmmm 08:12:09 -!- nixor has joined ##crawl-dev 08:14:04 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 08:30:28 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 08:33:21 bmh, did you figure it out? 08:33:28 afraid not 08:33:33 ok, give me a sec 08:34:00 Looking at the log, I suspect it's a tiles problem and not an abyss problem 08:34:08 ok, found the directory 08:35:00 ok 08:35:08 from this save, how do I reproduce it? 08:35:14 I had just asked the question on ##crawl 08:35:54 well, it seemed to happen randomly 08:36:04 I was playing for several minutes before hand 08:36:22 alright, I'll run around and kill stuff. 08:36:31 sorry I can't be more precise 08:40:05 maybe if I run it in the debugger... 08:40:14 ...looking up how to do that 08:43:07 -!- RichardHawk has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:43:32 elderman: I'm afraid that I'm not crashing 08:44:39 how do I debug? 08:44:51 gdb crawl 08:44:55 ok 08:45:04 and then 'run' at the prompt 08:45:19 Why don't I do that for a while and see if I can reproduce it with more info 08:45:35 rather than you wanding around in the hopes of making it crash 08:45:44 * wandering 08:47:15 thanks 08:51:16 -!- bmh is now known as bmh_away 09:06:01 -!- RichardHawk has joined ##crawl-dev 09:08:02 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 09:43:59 -!- Textmode has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 09:49:51 -!- nixor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:51:19 bmh_away, right, it hasn't happened again yet. I'll add a comment to the bug report when I've reproduced it inside the debugger 10:20:41 -!- jarpiain has joined ##crawl-dev 10:58:50 -!- Guest10984 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:18:10 -!- Twilight-1 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:34:16 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 11:42:01 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 12:10:55 -!- RichardHawk has quit [Quit: Recalculating TATARI at "the crossing crossing"] 12:17:52 -!- moocowpong1 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:31:40 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 12:53:49 -!- casmith789 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:53:51 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:55:47 -!- bmh_away is now known as bmh 12:57:27 jeeze. I come home to my street swarming with police and paparazzi. 13:04:33 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 13:13:01 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:22:02 bmh, sounds like there's a story behind that. Crawl seems to run normally inside the debugger. Is there any reason not to use the debugger all the time? 13:23:27 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:23:45 elderman: it's slow? 13:25:07 It seems to run at the same speed to me 13:26:04 I've found the debugger slow with other games that use more graphics, but crawl seems to run at the same speed either way 13:26:08 elderman, because that just hides the symptoms for certain type of bugs (and even then, only sometimes), and does not fix the bugs 13:26:55 ok 13:27:46 (re: Paparazzi: Amy Winehouse was my neighbor) 13:27:58 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 13:28:09 oh my goodness! 13:28:13 I didn't know she'd died 13:28:22 poor sod 13:29:12 we could add a confused unique named Amy... 13:29:53 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 13:31:39 who spouts lyrics and shouts "no, no!" when you kill her? 13:31:47 ouch 13:31:51 too soon? 13:31:59 I loved her music 13:32:11 most brilliant contemporary soul singer 13:32:33 or whatever he genre was 13:32:55 just trying to go with the idea 13:33:04 anyway, I'm still playing trying to get it to crash again 13:33:11 so far no luck 13:33:18 can you consistently reproduce it outside a debugger? 13:33:25 haven't tried 13:33:40 ulimit -c unlimited, then try 13:33:57 inside gdb? 13:34:05 no, on your shell 13:34:05 I don't really understand c 13:34:16 it tells it to write core dumps 13:34:49 * Zaba sleeping 13:34:50 ok, 13:35:25 I ran that line inside the source folder and now and playing again 13:35:30 sleep well 13:38:18 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 5.0/20110615151330]] 13:39:30 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 13:44:35 03MarvinPA * rdd8fcbda9278 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/altar.des: Fix typo in an Ash altar, reduce weight slightly 13:44:46 03MarvinPA * r359f501a77ff 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/altar.des: Convert items in the xom_gifts_altar vault to mimics 13:53:30 MarvinPA: thanks for mimic'ifying my altar 13:53:56 no problem, unfortunately it turns out there are some nice inventive ways to actually get inside and it'd probably be kinda tricky to fix them all :P 13:54:04 really? 13:54:25 yeah, you can use lugonu corruption or water cards/fedhas rain to destroy the teleport traps 13:54:49 The walls are still permarock 13:54:51 and then you can get a monster in there, and draw the swap card to get inside 13:54:56 ha 13:55:15 i think actually they all rely on the swap card ultimately 13:55:19 i'm not certain though 13:55:46 we could just make swap check that the target isn't in no_tele 13:55:52 but this is a better solution 14:04:08 03MarvinPA * rea4e9e8a180f 10/crawl-ref/source/spl-cast.cc: Fix miscasts of Regen acting like Trog's Hand (rwbarton) 14:04:09 03MarvinPA 07stone_soup-0.9 * rd5a3cb8a403e 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/altar.des: Convert items in the xom_gifts_altar vault to mimics 14:04:09 03MarvinPA 07stone_soup-0.9 * rd34e2c71e937 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/altar.des: Fix typo in an Ash altar, reduce weight slightly 14:04:19 03MarvinPA 07stone_soup-0.9 * rbd94a21f2ea9 10/crawl-ref/source/spl-cast.cc: Fix miscasts of Regen acting like Trog's Hand (rwbarton) 14:05:39 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:05:40 Aha! Got it. 14:05:49 Where do I go for the core dump? 14:07:43 bmh, do you know what to do with a core dump? 14:07:47 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:17:06 The core dump is much too large to upload to mantis, but I've added a note to the issue. 14:24:58 elderman: a stack trace is more useful to me than a core dump 14:25:08 I still have my fingers crossed that this is a tiles problem. 14:26:38 (not that that helps you) 14:27:42 you can get a backtrace with gdb /path/to/crawl core 14:27:45 then running the bt command 14:27:55 oh. great 14:27:59 elderman: how big is the dump? 14:30:11 62.9 MB 14:30:27 let me see if my ftp is still running 14:30:53 oops, never brought it back online 14:31:07 I might have a place to upload it 14:31:27 I won't have a chance to look at it tonight 14:37:33 -!- bmh is now known as bmh_away 14:41:39 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 15:09:48 kekekela (L6 DDGl) ERROR in 'tileview.cc' at line 916: non-door tile (Ossuary) 15:30:28 -!- Wensley has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:50:37 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:59:53 -!- timecircuits1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:59:57 -!- timecircuits has joined ##crawl-dev 16:14:15 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 16:27:44 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:28:27 03MarvinPA * r9de92e3aa1e9 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-stuff.cc: Don't polymorph into unfinished monsters 16:28:27 03MarvinPA 07stone_soup-0.9 * r79b094ccbfc5 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-stuff.cc: Don't polymorph into unfinished monsters 16:28:27 03MarvinPA 07stone_soup-0.9 * rc0c5ec468de0 10/crawl-ref/source/monster.cc: Don't allow polymorphing holy monsters 16:28:37 03MarvinPA * rba154dc49e80 10/crawl-ref/source/monster.cc: Don't allow polymorphing holy monsters 16:32:02 MarvinPA: you missed disallowing polymorphing of demons in the last commit 16:32:21 heh 16:32:28 it doesn't seem quite so awful now it doesn't work on &s 16:32:48 it's pretty awful, and it working on demons but not angels makes it even more awful 16:33:19 especially why it happened in the first place 16:33:31 the stuff with hellhogs and whatever 17:09:05 how about increasing yred piety gain 17:14:05 hm 17:14:13 someone mentioned the idea of having yred piety not decay at one point 17:14:21 dunno if that would help enough 17:16:07 the problem with that is you can farm places to get gifts 17:16:46 ah, good point 17:24:11 yred is still good enough early but it's frustrating getting to lair and being on like ****.. and with only flying skull allies 17:24:49 oh right, i guess you end up gaining piety slowly because of gift timeouts? 17:39:34 -!- casmith789 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:49:35 Lantern of Shadows & player avatar in console (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4312) by Hybrid 17:50:55 I don't know how gift timeouts work 17:51:15 ideally yred should gift right the the start imo 17:51:44 a lone mummy or wight would actually be useful on d:2-3, they're not on d:10 17:52:33 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:57:57 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:58:22 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 17:59:45 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:02:38 -!- hoody has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:04:59 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 18:12:31 -!- syllogism has quit [] 18:33:24 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 18:41:29 -!- Mu_ has quit [Quit: Defecator, may everything turn out okay so that you can leave this place.] 18:44:47 -!- Garhauk has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 5.0/20110615151330]] 18:48:32 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 19:36:57 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:38:39 -!- bmh_away is now known as bmh 19:43:54 -!- jeanjacques has quit [] 19:44:37 -!- moocowpong1_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:47:16 -!- bhaak_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:47:24 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 19:49:47 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:51:10 -!- Twinge_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:51:52 -!- moocowpong1 has quit [*.net *.split] 19:51:52 -!- bhaak has quit [*.net *.split] 19:51:52 -!- Twinge has quit [*.net *.split] 19:51:54 -!- moocowpong1_ is now known as moocowpong1 19:59:55 -!- upsy has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:02:25 oxeimon the Farming Elf of Death (L27 SETm) ASSERT(y >= 1 && y <= sz.y) in 'libutil.cc' at line 848 failed on turn 339817. (Zig:17) 20:10:07 Is it worth noting old Mantis issues that are now resolves to formally close them? (e.g. https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2220 is done; food is now colored in search appropriately) 20:10:55 -!- Twinge_ is now known as Twinge 20:12:59 yes, please do 20:13:13 if you spot any add a note or mention them in here and someone can close them :) 20:14:14 k 20:26:33 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:30:10 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:31:07 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:33:49 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 20:42:22 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 20:50:31 Game Crashes when I picked Orb card. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4313) by blmarket 21:00:05 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:28:51 -!- stabwound has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:30:02 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 22:00:34 -!- hoody has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:00:39 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 22:30:04 -!- gnsh has quit [] 22:36:54 -!- Textmode has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:02:30 -!- Twilight-1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:05:54 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:06:18 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 23:07:09 -!- hoody has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:07:22 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 23:10:05 -!- Twilight has joined ##crawl-dev 23:10:31 -!- Twilight is now known as Guest23526 23:29:14 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev