00:05:28 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:38:25 -!- ophanim has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:45:14 -!- Rejuxst has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 4.0.1/20110413222027]] 01:14:14 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 01:28:17 Permanent Scrying for Ashenzari Felids (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4111) by Believesit 01:36:16 -!- hoody_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:38:13 -!- jooosa_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:40:19 -!- joosa has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:40:20 -!- jooosa_ is now known as joosa 01:44:14 -!- hoody_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:48:24 Statue form appears to damage you when it ends. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4112) by st 01:49:58 -!- hoody_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:50:03 -!- hoody_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:01:59 -!- casmith789 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:18:36 moin 02:19:39 -!- hoody_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:26:58 -!- Keskitalo has joined ##crawl-dev 02:27:55 Good morning! 02:29:14 moin Keskitalo 02:29:39 Really good god stuff on crd, thank you kilobyte 02:37:36 I don't understand why people are supporting reducing the number of gods casters want 02:38:21 Make room for better caster gods? :) 02:40:19 st_: The plan includes giving MP regain back to Makhleb (though ofc there's conj/summoning overlap with that god) 02:42:13 I think Makhleb, Chei, Ash and Kiku, maybe even TSO seem like good(?) caster gods. 02:43:32 mahk was so boringly superior to all the other endgame gods with mp regen, though 02:44:24 I quite dislike gods, vehumet is one of the few I do like playing with because there's no abilites or sacrificing 02:45:18 I think greensnark also brought that point up 02:45:25 He liked the old Vehumet already. 02:46:00 he's straightforward, entirely passive, and reasonably balanced 02:46:06 which i rather like as well 02:54:04 -!- galehar has joined ##crawl-dev 02:54:06 gods in general are too good I think 02:54:14 some of them just win the game for you 03:16:34 -!- casmith789 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:17:52 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 03:17:54 Hi 03:17:55 dpeg: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 03:17:58 !emssages 03:18:00 !messages 03:18:00 (1/1) Cryp71c said (3d 16h 19m 13s ago): I'd really like to start cleaning out some old wiki pages, starting with the demonspawn ideas one that's full of stuff we've either already done or aren't doing. 03:18:13 !seen Cryp71c 03:18:13 I last saw Cryp71c at Mon Jun 6 22:48:57 2011 UTC (9h 29m 16s ago) quitting with message Ping timeout: 255 seconds. 03:18:52 !tell Cryp71c Go ahead! This is appreciated. If you want me to purge or look at something, add pointers right in the wiki page. I will respond. 03:18:52 dpeg: OK, I'll let Cryp71c know. 03:18:57 !seen kilobyte 03:18:57 I last saw kilobyte at Mon Jun 6 17:08:57 2011 UTC (15h 10m ago) saying Flint: set plus and plus2 on ##crawl-dev. 03:20:30 moin dpeg 03:24:14 Hi! 03:26:01 -!- Zao has left ##crawl-dev 03:26:02 -!- herself has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 03:30:11 -!- herself has joined ##crawl-dev 03:44:14 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 03:50:47 hi dpeg! 03:51:22 st_: I like that observation :> 04:00:53 Hello Eino! 04:01:05 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 04:01:20 Keskitalo: what observation? We wanna know! 04:05:10 st_: gods in general are too good I think 04:05:11 st_: some of them just win the game for you 04:05:44 ortoslon: which gods? 04:05:48 (quoted, not responded) 04:05:51 ah 04:06:08 he also said that vehumet is good because he's passive 04:06:13 dpeg: trog probably, but he would also lose you the game if he didn't ;) 04:06:39 Trog's slated for a nerf anyway. I guess Nemelex is another culprit. 04:07:35 evilmike: yes, passive can be good, but I don't like the assemblage of boosts that Vehumet is. 04:07:42 to make it obvious when a god was nerfed or buffed, shorten or lengthen its name respectively :P 04:08:02 dpeg: Makhleb aswell maybe. 04:08:27 and perhaps TSO in the end 04:08:43 Yeah, he seems to be the obvious choice after a certain point. 04:16:31 -!- monqy has quit [Quit: hello] 04:32:31 -!- ahpla has quit [Quit: power off] 04:43:56 -!- galehar has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:17:44 -!- edlothiol has left ##crawl-dev 05:21:20 hi! 05:21:33 dpeg: i am for vehumuna! 05:28:14 -!- evilmike has quit [] 05:31:37 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 05:32:18 due: I don't discuss names anymore :) 05:32:46 Everyone will jump, nothing will happen. I am as happy about deicide as everybody else, of course. 05:33:08 dpeg: I meant the concept, not the name. 05:34:39 later 05:48:54 -!- Ashenzari has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:49:41 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 05:49:41 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS Development | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 05:52:10 03galehar * rf319e9b05488 10/crawl-ref/source/spl-cast.cc: Don't divide by 0. 05:53:55 Sifumet sounded nicely passive if I read that correctly. 05:59:58 -!- Ashenzari has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:00:46 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 06:00:46 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS Development | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 06:10:26 -!- galehar has joined ##crawl-dev 06:12:01 standing in a rain cloud gives a negative enhancer to fire magic. Fine. But it has the side effect of giving an ice enhancer. Should it be the case? I don't think so. 06:13:46 currently fire and ice are hardcoded to mirror their enhancers 06:19:34 yes I know. I was thinking of using : enhanced += player_spec_cold() - std::max(0, player_spec_fire()); 06:19:34 so that negative enhancer doesn't become positive enhancer of opposite school 06:19:34 back 06:19:34 the rain cloud is the only case right now 06:19:34 galehar: not enhancing Ice seems better 06:19:35 what if you have multiple enhancers? 06:19:35 like, if you have a ring of fire and stand in a rain cloud, you should get a negative cold enhancement, not 0 06:19:35 -!- Ashenzari has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:20:34 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 06:20:34 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS Development | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 06:23:45 have to pass a ignore_negative_enhancer boolean parameter then 06:31:59 -!- Ashenzari has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:32:49 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 06:32:49 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS Development | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 06:33:21 or, put the rain cloud check outside of that function 06:33:41 so it'd be like global enchancers 06:35:24 yes, good idea 06:38:00 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 06:39:50 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:42:10 03galehar * rc313a265f516 10/crawl-ref/source/ (player.cc spl-cast.cc): Standing in the rain doesn't enhance ice magic. 06:44:49 Morning 06:45:00 Cryp71c: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 06:45:00 !messages 06:45:00 (1/2) Cryp71c said (4d 19h 15m 43s ago): sickness wierdness: player.cc dec_disease_player "you.disease -= 2 * BASELINE_DELAY" results in sickness healing faster for fast actions. 06:45:00 !messages 06:45:00 (1/1) dpeg said (3h 26m 5s ago): Go ahead! This is appreciated. If you want me to purge or look at something, add pointers right in the wiki page. I will respond. 06:54:08 -!- galehar has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:54:55 !messages 06:54:55 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:54:55 No messages for Cryp71c. 06:58:24 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 07:19:40 -!- ais523 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:24:40 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 07:27:48 -!- Twilight-1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:29:18 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:30:18 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 07:31:01 -!- galehar has joined ##crawl-dev 07:36:50 -!- Twilight has joined ##crawl-dev 07:37:16 -!- Twilight is now known as Guest63915 07:52:17 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 07:56:32 -!- Fangorn_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:56:52 -!- Fangorn_ has quit [Client Quit] 08:44:39 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 09:11:07 -!- ophanim has joined ##crawl-dev 09:20:28 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 09:24:18 -!- hoody_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:25:30 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 09:29:42 -!- ortoslon has quit [Quit: bye] 09:35:22 -!- hoody_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:36:08 03kilobyte * rfeb88f991cac 10/crawl-ref/source/AppHdr.h: Remove a no longer implemented option. 09:36:08 03kilobyte * rdb41c9a324d2 10/crawl-ref/source/ (godpassive.cc godpassive.h player.cc religion.cc): Fix a crash on startup. 09:36:09 03kilobyte * r2a965c080c49 10/crawl-ref/source/misc.cc: Clear several attributes on felid death. 09:36:09 03kilobyte * r061ced455df4 10/crawl-ref/source/main.cc: Fix mimic glyphs being uninitialized in some cases. 09:36:09 03kilobyte * r61ce99bc3b69 10/crawl-ref/source/ (35 files in 2 dirs): s/SP_CAT/SP_FELID/ 09:36:09 03kilobyte * r79358023e6be 10/crawl-ref/source/ (player.cc transform.cc transform.h): Keep form hp mods in one place. 09:42:30 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:48:00 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Rooms • iPhone IRC Client • http://www.roomsapp.mobi] 10:27:49 sdsd 10:28:21 -!- dpeg_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:28:34 dpeg_: no love for ely pilgrims following you around? :( 10:30:59 there's already so many gods that give allies 10:32:00 -!- dpeg has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:34:47 Eronarn: yes, what st_ says. And I think that Elyvilon is interesting and different, the main gripe being pacified monsters getting stuck. 10:44:42 st_: friends are fun! :) 10:44:58 the only one that lets you have leveling buddies right now is beogh (and to a lesser extent, fedhas) 10:45:19 having a strong incentive to keep your followers alive makes for very different gameplay 10:45:43 Yred? 10:46:00 but all of TSO, T, Y and to a lesser extent X, K, M are about allies 10:46:16 kilobyte: yred is a good example: a lot of chaff, but people love their bone dragons and treat them well 10:46:19 in 0.8, ghouls were not capped, too... a well-fed one is said to be able to solo Cerebov 10:46:33 ah, i haven't played yred since the ghoul changes 10:47:22 I was the bad nerfing guy and stopped that fun in 0.9 :p 10:47:30 dpeg_: i wouldn't put xom on that list, he sends allies but you can't predict it... N should be on there though :) 10:47:53 (well, he should be on that list for now. I don't think he SHOULD be on that list.) 10:49:52 i'd like to try implementing perma allies for Zin, with recite. someone here had a good idea for it - originally i was going to have a 'buff allies' recite, but they pointed out that the different recite types could simply buff your allies in a way based on the recitation 10:50:12 oh, does Xom still give perm daevas? 10:51:04 and there's some strong flavor here, apart from the conversion: some enemies are impure or evil, but *redeemable*, such as necromancers or hell knights 10:51:33 as they aren't innately chaotic/evil/undead 10:51:43 but only so because of their actions 10:52:38 thus you can have flavorful zin-only allies like 'Iosef the repented necromancer' or whatever 10:54:22 (btw, speaking of flavor: is anyone else bothered by ely's ability to pacify undead/demons?) 10:57:16 -!- hoody_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:59:13 -!- st_ has quit [] 11:05:15 -!- jlewis has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:05:21 -!- jlewis has joined ##crawl-dev 11:12:28 -!- galehar has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:14:07 03dolorous * r1b5c79a0af6c 10/crawl-ref/source/godabil.cc: Tweak a few Fedhas messages. 11:14:17 03dolorous * rbfb04b456be8 10/crawl-ref/source/godabil.cc: Don't use mprf() when mpr() will do. 11:16:02 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 11:44:13 03dolorous * r42e5c465d840 10/crawl-ref/source/areas.cc: Add formatting fix. 11:44:33 03dolorous * r81105e41c2bc 10/crawl-ref/source/godabil.cc: Add spacing fixes. 11:44:44 03dolorous * r015c09545a89 10/crawl-ref/source/ (attitude-change.cc godabil.cc): Fix LOS radius checks for Yred/Beogh/Jiyva follower abandonment. 11:44:54 -!- upsy has joined ##crawl-dev 11:54:55 -!- ais523 has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:56:39 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:58:18 -!- petete has joined ##crawl-dev 12:08:49 hey guys 12:09:03 I am trying to install all the prerequisites so I can build crawl tiles on mac from source 12:09:12 I got libSDl and sdlimage and png etc etc 12:09:16 but I cant get frteetype to install 12:09:19 any suggestions? 12:12:02 i got evey prerequisite installed but the xcode project still returns like a thousand error 12:21:11 sorry, I can' 12:21:13 t help 12:23:22 hehe 12:23:24 im learning 12:23:28 im trying it a different way 12:24:36 hoody_, :( Not a mac user here either, sorry. 12:26:48 thanks anyway 12:29:45 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 12:41:49 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 12:43:48 -!- ophanim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:45:51 -!- petete has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:56:13 03dolorous * r6122c9daf777 10/crawl-ref/source/ (attitude-change.cc godabil.cc): Really fix LOS radius checks relative to 015c095; LOS radius, not actual LOS. 12:57:19 error: There is no SDK with the name or path '/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk' 12:57:26 only one error now 13:00:39 !tell galehar Just playing OgWz^Ash -- new Ash is awesome! The magic skill boost only applies to the best skill? It says low bonus from jewellery but my high Con get a boost, while Evoc at 1 does not. 13:00:39 dpeg_: OK, I'll let galehar know. 13:11:34 hmm.. my vampire is "Near Bloodless" but there II still shows strawberry as spell hunger for pain - is that display just not updated or is that a bug? 13:11:49 *but in II it still shows 13:14:41 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 13:18:22 % also shows stealthy always, not matter i'm bloodless or satiated.. 13:18:31 seems like the effects are not shown then? 13:20:35 -!- Eronarn has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:21:49 Napkin: true 13:22:43 Napkin: also hi! 13:23:10 Napkin: you had a tournament? Was the server stable -- how many users could it serve at the same time? 13:26:51 -!- ais523_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:27:26 -!- ais523 has quit [Disconnected by services] 13:27:32 -!- ais523_ is now known as ais523 13:28:13 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 13:29:18 players complain about the upcoming Trog nerfs on the forum :) 13:29:49 hey david :) 13:30:25 i'm not sure how many people were serves, at times i saw about 60 at the same time 13:30:59 apart from a but in the webtiles python script (which forced us to restart it every 2-3 days) i think CDO was stable 13:31:00 have trog nerfs been finalized? is there a forum thread to read about them? 13:31:18 and apart from the usual network slowdowns, of course ;) 13:31:35 are you getting more players right now with NAO down, btw? 13:31:39 (someone hacked it, it seems) 13:32:01 i can't tell, ais523 13:32:17 current 40 seems to be quite much, considering the tournament is over 13:32:40 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/per-day.html 13:33:06 one would expect a flurry of newbies on ##crawl 13:33:17 13 of those are DGL, rest is webtiles 13:33:23 bhaak and I have been trying to persuade everyone to play our respective variants instead 13:33:32 Napkin: 60 is good... encroaching nao levels :) 13:33:33 -!- Eronarn has joined ##crawl-dev 13:33:45 dpeg_: well, NAO levels are 0 atm :) 13:33:50 ais523: hey, do _you_ get more traffic? 13:33:51 but i heard CAO had around 200 players at the same time? 13:33:54 Napkin: yeah, I think webtiles has created a new baseline for server activity :) 13:34:14 dpeg_: one player 13:34:19 which is more than the usual 0 13:34:20 hm :( 13:34:26 and pretty much directly as a result of the server being down 13:34:29 Wensley: not finalised, but the direction seems clear 13:34:50 ah, so people are just groaning over general reduction in the easiness of berserkers then :P 13:37:10 how do i play a vampire properly? 13:37:39 i know.. wrong channel.. but ##crawl is probably too spammy, as always ;) 13:37:42 afaik, stay at full for fast regen in early game, go bloodless for resists lategame 13:38:22 -!- Eronarn has quit [Client Quit] 13:42:00 hmm, yeah 13:42:11 rPois is nice, but just found a ring 13:42:23 spell hunger doesn't matter much, as far as i can see 13:42:39 I had a nice Vp in the tournament where I'd temporarily go bloodless on D:8 or so to clear a beehive. 13:42:42 no reason to be less than alive in early game 13:43:16 why bloodless, dpeg? wouldn't thirsty have been enough? or even better since you regenerate? 13:43:37 or did you do it because of the stealth boost? 13:44:05 ah, the level you need for rP :) 13:44:27 *no reason to be less than "Full" in early game, i guess, with this =rP 13:44:32 that's thirsty I think 13:44:37 yeah 13:45:29 it's really a pity, that not all changes between alive/bloodless are reflected in the stats display 13:48:49 Napkin: gotta open a ticket, Meister :) 13:49:12 nah - that's rather a missing feature than a bug, Chef ;) 13:49:54 oh, also.. not playing 0.8 13:50:00 erm.. geez tired 13:50:07 *oh, also.. not playing git, but 0.8 13:50:14 maybe someone added that feature already ;) 13:51:58 -!- Eronarn has joined ##crawl-dev 13:52:17 I drank the blood of Ijyb! 13:54:27 -!- petete has joined ##crawl-dev 13:57:24 Napkin: gross! 13:57:32 All mine! 13:57:34 ;> 13:58:28 lol, i managed to stay "Alive" for 11 turns only? 14:04:58 Napkin: use bottles to be Alive during relevant fights 14:05:09 ok 14:05:14 you cannot expect to stay Alive for extended periods, you're a vampire after all :) 14:05:32 just surprised it's that short :) 14:05:39 managed up to 17 turns so far 14:06:11 i'm a bit confused about these "mutation chance" and "non-physical mutation effects" 14:06:49 does it mean, i should be thirsty (never/none) to test potions, so i won't suffer from potions of mutation? 14:09:59 dpeg_: I just pushed support for Zot entry vaults, but massive vaults evilmike submitted are problematic 14:10:09 03evilmike * rb2c0a44fde50 10/crawl-ref/source/dungeon.cc: Only place one zot portal on D:27 14:10:10 03kilobyte * r2fc0031cf9bf 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/zot.des: A couple of non-oversized Zot entry vaults. 14:10:35 Napkin: you get different effects from potions of mutation 14:10:40 they will still ID, but they'll rot you rather than mutating you 14:10:44 dpeg_: they use PLACE:D:27 instead of TAG:zot_entry, so they're not guaranteed to spawn, even if we removed all other primary vaults 14:11:06 now i am surprised that i can go bat form :-O 14:11:10 the non-physical mutation effects are stuff like being able to blink or breathe fire 14:11:16 if the builder has repeated failures, it gives up large vaults pretty fast 14:11:18 you keep stuff like horns or scales while bloodless 14:11:48 dpeg_: so it's better to talk to Zaba first 14:12:02 kilobyte: hi! About to leave, though. 14:12:15 What is wrong with making the big ones TAG:zot_entry as well? 14:12:20 Eronarn: same for most (I think all, too) mutations while in lich form 14:12:30 kilobyte: ah 14:12:46 kilobyte: hopefully they use the same rules now, yes, after the lichform changes 14:13:00 dpeg_: I don't see a problem, the worst that can happen is that they will fail multiple times until the builder picks a smaller one 14:13:01 (i.e., the problems before with talons in lichform) 14:13:21 in fact, I just pushed two small ones 14:13:35 one of them is a serial vault with nothing but three stairs like until today :p 14:13:37 kilobyte: just saw, nice! 14:13:55 but then, Zaba knows this stuff, I don't 14:14:44 Eronarn: "lichform changes"? Are there any planned other than the radical permanency proposal? 14:15:43 which is probably too invasive to be accepted... but IMO it has some merit 14:16:07 kilobyte: no, i mean the changes made some time ago to fix certain mutations not affecting lichform/statueform 14:23:38 -!- petete has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:24:29 -!- dpeg_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:28:14 !tell Zaba could you comment on mantis #4101? I think trying to use PLACE there is a bad idea. 14:28:14 kilobyte: OK, I'll let Zaba know. 14:30:07 -!- hoody_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:31:55 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 14:42:05 -!- hoody_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:49:28 -!- ortoslon1 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:49:32 -!- ortoslon has quit [Disconnected by services] 14:57:04 -!- ais523 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:27:43 -!- hoody_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:30:50 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:06:47 Erolcha sucks! especially in D9 with 30 damage bolt of cold.. 16:07:55 -!- galehar has joined ##crawl-dev 16:12:26 @? Erolcha 16:12:28 Erolcha (12O) | Speed: 10 | HD: 6 | Health: 54 | AC/EV: 3/7 | Damage: 20 | Flags: spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(56) | Chunks: 07contaminated | XP: 823 | Sp: b.venom (3d11), mystic blast (3d12), invisibility, confuse, slow, teleport self / magic dart (3d4), paralyse, haste, b.lightning (3d14), confuse, teleport self / paralyse, crystal spear (3d23), blink, b.fire (3d14), b.cold (3d14), minor healing .. 16:12:33 rofl 16:12:48 is there any spell this Erolcha doesn't do? :D 16:13:42 terrific D9 monster :-P 16:16:51 she can be on D:8 too 16:16:51 galehar: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 16:16:58 depth is 8-13 16:17:04 !messages 16:17:04 yeah, great ;) 16:17:04 (1/1) dpeg_ said (3h 16m 25s ago): Just playing OgWz^Ash -- new Ash is awesome! The magic skill boost only applies to the best skill? It says low bonus from jewellery but my high Con get a boost, while Evoc at 1 does not. 16:17:26 !seen dpeg 16:17:27 I last saw dpeg at Tue Jun 7 15:32:00 2011 UTC (5h 45m 26s ago) quitting with message Ping timeout: 240 seconds. 16:18:24 -!- syllogism has quit [] 16:18:39 -!- elly has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:40:14 !tell dpeg all magic skills and evocations are boosted. When I recently capped the bonus for low level skills, it resulted in L1 skills not getting a boost for a low bonus. 16:40:16 galehar: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 16:48:08 !tell dpeg the formula can still be improved. It's annoying that sometimes you gain a skill level but your bonus diminish resulting in no gain. Maybe by working with skill points instead of skill level we can have a smoother result. 16:48:09 galehar: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 16:58:12 03dolorous * rb63776315d04 10/crawl-ref/source/output.cc: Document a few more species-specific qualities on the "%" screen. 17:03:59 -!- hoody_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:11:04 crawl sucks! 17:11:08 -!- Napkin was kicked from ##crawl-dev by Napkin [Napkin] 17:11:33 hahaha 17:13:35 i would have to lie if I said that Napkin just joined #unnethack 17:14:26 maybe he went to angband circles 17:18:07 03dolorous * re235f74c26af 10/crawl-ref/source/mutation-data.h: Add missing blank lines. 17:18:24 from crawl to angband, isn't that a bit extreme? 17:19:24 give us your suggested roguelike order, bhaak 17:19:36 well, you know, people can hold their thoughts for a long time before they explode 17:20:17 one cannot resist the temptation of angband and it's...angbandiness for long 17:20:39 i don't know where people would go after being annoyed by crawl 17:21:18 usually, after you're erased the last bit of a roguelike from your hard disks, you re-install it to try again :) 17:21:44 maybe they escape to the future, so that they can play the next version of crawl 17:24:03 -!- ophanim has joined ##crawl-dev 17:27:00 after being annoyed by crawl? dwarf fortress. maybe. 17:27:16 bleh, just saw the demo for Duke Nukem Forever... what the hell they were thinking declaring this "good enough to release"? 17:27:20 worse than Doom3 17:28:20 in other news, new mingw kicks ass. gcc-4.6, LTO, standard C threading, etc. 17:28:32 they were thinking "you can actually play it! zomgwtfrofl ship it" 17:28:51 or similar 17:29:11 Duke3 had toilet jokes in like 2-3 places. 4 has hardly anything else. 17:30:44 I believe they were trying to capitalize on what people who played the last duke as youngsters remember most 17:32:53 those people would probably mature quite a bit... 17:33:43 unfortunately, not all do 17:36:33 I've seen a few people online who seem really psyched for it, although primarily for nostalgia as far as I can tell 17:50:42 -!- galehar has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:58:39 -!- upsy has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:01:48 -!- Nexos has joined ##crawl-dev 18:03:24 -!- Wensley has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:03:43 Has the crawl version been updated on CAO? It seems the shopping list is somewhat broken right now 18:10:00 -!- Nexos is now known as Nexos_ 18:12:13 Hmm seems to work now... maybe some random bug 18:39:04 -!- Nexos_ has left ##crawl-dev 19:02:22 -!- hoody_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:16:20 -!- hoody_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:26:36 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:27:51 -!- Guest63915 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:28:12 -!- Guest63915 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:55:03 -!- jld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:55:10 -!- jld has joined ##crawl-dev 20:47:09 -!- ZorbaBeta is now known as ZorbaTHut 21:11:14 -!- lorimer has quit [*.net *.split] 21:11:14 -!- RjY has quit [*.net *.split] 21:11:19 -!- RjY has joined ##crawl-dev 21:11:33 -!- lorimer has joined ##crawl-dev 21:42:55 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:54:18 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:54:53 -!- hoody_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:57:31 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 22:01:06 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 22:05:53 -!- hoody_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:09:03 -!- Guest63915 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:11:04 -!- Twilight-1 has joined ##crawl-dev 22:22:47 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:25:26 -!- hoody_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:28:12 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 22:51:43 -!- hoody_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:09:12 -!- hoody_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:21:06 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 23:21:07 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:21:12 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 23:22:02 -!- hoody_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:23:21 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection]