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Can't we make rakshasas use the same cloning code as Mara and get rid of invisible weapons? 04:34:18 03kilobyte * rdfe96dd62db2 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/portals/bazaar.des: Make statue_bzr always place permanent bazaars. 04:35:23 summoned monsters can pick gear too (they'll drop it when unsummoned) 04:36:43 MONS_RAKSHASA_FAKE have MONUSE_NOTHING, but if we change that to MONUSE_WEAPONS_ARMOUR, they'd be able to use weapons just like real ones 04:45:50 So let's do this. And make them use the same cloning code as mara. Then, we can get rid of invisible weapon. Would that be ok? 04:46:09 I guess so 04:46:14 I'm cool with i. 04:46:16 it. 04:51:42 !tell eronarn could you comment on https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3602 ? 04:51:43 kilobyte: OK, I'll let eronarn know. 04:55:13 Unstable branch on CDO updated to: 0.8.0-a0-6045-gdfe96dd (32) 05:23:31 -!- upsy has joined ##crawl-dev 05:38:58 -!- evilmike has quit [] 05:48:47 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:56:08 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 05:58:58 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 06:29:45 -!- Zaba has quit [*.net *.split] 06:34:06 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 06:44:34 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 06:50:29 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 07:47:04 ?? pacify 07:47:04 pacification[1/4]: Followers of Elyvilon can pacify monsters with healing abilities and wands of healing. Success rate depends on invocations skill and the strength of the healing ability in comparison to the monster's maxhp, modified mostly by holiness. Piety is not involved. Pacifying a monster gives half the normal xp and has a chance of raising piety. 07:47:26 ?? Ogre 07:47:27 ogre[1/4]: Ogres have low accuracy and health, but can deal a lot of damage when they hit. It is a good idea to pick them off from a distance, using poisoned projectiles. Are notable for their slow attacks with giant (spiked) clubs. If you step away after it swings, you might create a gap. 07:47:31 @? Ogre 07:47:33 ogre (07O) | Speed: 10 | HD: 5 | Health: 17-39 | AC/EV: 1/6 | Damage: 17 | Res: 06magic(20) | Chunks: 07contaminated | XP: 119. 07:48:10 xp pool showed +2xp.. it went into invocation skill immediately? 07:52:32 -!- ekiM has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:56:50 most ways to kill things immediately practice whatever skill you used 07:58:43 Dungeon Olms will start watching & transcribing the user test videos next. 08:27:42 Napkin (or anyone else): can you update the windows builds? 08:28:18 sure 08:29:46 thanks 08:31:09 -!- syllogism- has joined ##crawl-dev 08:34:23 -!- syllogism has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:39:29 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 08:44:07 Morning 08:46:38 Windows development builds on CDO updated to: 0.8.0-a0-6045-gdfe96dd 08:59:31 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:04:37 -!- frogfrog has joined ##crawl-dev 09:10:22 -!- frogfrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:57:05 @whereis 123 09:57:05 No where information for 123. 09:57:10 @dump 123 09:57:11 No where information for 123. 09:57:16 @dump Napkin 09:57:16 Can't find character dump for . 10:00:26 -!- Twinge has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:01:01 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 10:07:47 -!- Gretell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:07:55 -!- Gretell has joined ##crawl-dev 10:07:58 @dump Napkin 10:07:58 Can't find character dump for . 10:13:12 @dump Napkin 10:13:12 Can't find character dump for . 10:19:45 -!- Gretell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:19:51 -!- Gretell has joined ##crawl-dev 10:19:53 @dump Napkin 10:19:53 Can't find character dump for (/var/lib/dgamelaunch/crawl-svn/morgue/Napkin//Napkin.where - /var/lib/dgamelaunch//morgue//.txt). 10:20:11 uuh.. double slash! 10:22:01 -!- Gretell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:22:07 -!- Gretell has joined ##crawl-dev 10:22:09 @dump Napkin 10:22:10 http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/Napkin/Napkin.txt 10:38:52 -!- syllogism- has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:44:26 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 10:47:12 -!- galehar has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:48:56 -!- ekiM has joined ##crawl-dev 10:50:28 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:51:14 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 11:12:54 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:17:18 -!- valrus has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:31:47 Napkin: thanks :) 11:44:29 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:56:32 03j-p-e-g * r2d373a24f1fa 10/crawl-ref/source/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Add phoenix (Porkchop) and silver star (Denzi) tiles. 11:56:42 03j-p-e-g * r1fab049809ce 10/crawl-ref/source/viewmap.cc: Encase _is_explore_horizon() in #ifndef USE_TILE. 12:00:01 -!- syllogism has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:04:32 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 12:20:17 03j-p-e-g * r91f5935c01bf 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/tiles/title_omndra_zot_demon.png: Re-add Omndra's demon/orb title screen, with new logo. 12:22:44 -!- Jordan7hm has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:22:52 -!- Jordan7hm has joined ##crawl-dev 12:56:12 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 12:59:14 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:23:37 Napkin: I'll update CAO dgl this evening 13:23:37 greensnark: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 13:23:48 greensnark :) 13:24:12 damn, now i have no excuse for not updating dgl on CDO :D 13:24:51 !messages 13:24:52 -!- Eronarn has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:24:52 (1/1) elliptic said (1d 20h 32m 27s ago): @dump seems to be broken. 13:24:55 You never did have an excuse :P 13:25:05 you saw what the crawl-svn script needs to accept? "--print-charset" if i remember correctly ;) 13:25:05 fixed the @dump 13:25:10 Great, thanks 13:25:16 greensnark: did you see they ruined Ogres? :P 13:25:22 syllogism: Yeah, I played one 13:25:26 It felt like a troll 13:25:48 I don't really mind the ogre changes, we just need to make something else more difficult to compensatr 13:26:09 Like DD :P 13:26:16 add ogre slaying brands 13:26:34 <3 ogres now! :-P 13:26:58 I liked old ogres; haven't tried new ogres 13:27:08 I mind it because we are running out of joke races/combos I can recommend to people 13:27:19 also hard to come up with challenge combos for tournaments 13:27:25 -!- Eronarn has joined ##crawl-dev 13:27:26 muck forever 13:27:49 HaPr of zin with knife :( 13:27:58 MuCK is a great challenge combo, yeah 13:30:59 I liked the various Og spellcaster types for a fun start, nothing else really fits that niche now 13:31:20 In general most species seem to have strong early games, I'd like a more challenging early game species 13:31:28 MuCK is just one combo 13:31:50 the og spellcasters only have 1 more extra hp per level 13:32:02 pure caster ogre would still be pretty much the same 13:32:18 Well, a hybrid is unquestionably easier now 13:32:23 greensnark: 13:32:24 kilobyte> could you skip that check if there's --print-charset? 13:32:24 Napkin> we could skip it, since - as you said - it only parses the config, right? 13:32:28 --- 13:32:30 you got all that? 13:32:35 Napkin: No :P 13:32:42 I'll let you explain it to me this evening :D 13:32:43 i mean, did you read it? 13:32:48 hehe 13:32:56 I don't really understand the --print-charset stuff 13:33:10 As in: don't understand what I need to change 13:33:38 easy explanation: the starter scripts need to recognize "--print-charset" and skip the save-game-transfer-check/prompt 13:34:39 Oh, is that all 13:34:44 (crawl binary will parse the player's config and just output the selected charset) 13:34:49 yes 13:34:56 I can totally rock that 13:35:03 bamm! 13:35:05 \o/ 13:35:06 :D 13:35:44 so, the call to the starter script will probably be as always and just have --print-charset added 13:36:16 (not sure if it's at the end, but i told kilobyte to make sure it's not the first or second parameter) 13:37:48 Napkin: it's always the last 13:37:49 kilobyte: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 13:37:56 awesome :) 13:38:22 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:42:13 is it a bug that there can still be disconnected bubbles in orc? 13:42:55 autorobin just found an orc:2-and-orc:3 bubble (just one stair on each level going to the other, no hatches) 13:43:13 bug, bug 13:50:18 Orc can still have disconnected regions. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3691) by elliptic 14:12:23 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:14:22 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 14:38:39 -!- syllogism has quit [] 15:23:16 -!- galehar has joined ##crawl-dev 15:24:34 -!- Kurper has joined ##crawl-dev 15:28:34 03kilobyte * r6998d9727c0c 10/crawl-ref/source/transform.cc: Don't check inscriptions on melding stuff -- you're not removing them. 15:28:45 03kilobyte * rb77ec05b66aa 10/crawl-ref/source/player-equip.cc: Don't consider melding a distortion weapon to be unwielding. 15:28:46 03kilobyte * r4e95c674c591 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/ability.txt: Rename the description for Breathe Power -> Energy (eronarn) 15:28:47 03kilobyte * rcc29eda054c3 10/crawl-ref/source/ (actor.h godabil.cc monster.cc monster.h player.cc player.h): Don't exempt those non-innately evil from being recited to. 15:31:29 -!- Jordan7hm has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:31:29 -!- ais523 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:31:29 -!- Jordan7hm has joined ##crawl-dev 15:32:16 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:34:13 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:34:35 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 15:37:01 -!- ekiM has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:44:18 03galehar * ra74b52e6fc96 10/crawl-ref/source/goditem.cc: Fix Chei hating some randart books for no reason. 15:44:29 03galehar * r54f2f19574dc 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-cast.cc: Make rakshasa use the same cloning code as Mara. 15:44:32 03galehar * r76489fb0c975 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-cast.cc: Copy props when cloning monsters. 15:44:33 03galehar * rd9876f3178a0 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h: Allow fake rakshasa to use weapons and armour like real ones. 15:44:34 03galehar * r710a650a65cd 10/crawl-ref/source/player-equip.cc: Fix boot of levitation message when melding and not levitating. 15:44:35 03galehar * r7f1c7ef38322 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-info.cc: Copy props in monster_info even for fake monsters. 15:44:41 03galehar * r75127a5eca43 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-info.cc: Don't hide equipment of Mara and Rakshasa. 15:45:04 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:45:59 -!- ekiM has joined ##crawl-dev 15:51:22 -!- ekiM has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:57:04 -!- mspang has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 16:00:44 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 16:00:54 -!- ekiM has joined ##crawl-dev 16:02:54 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:05:09 -!- galehar has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:12:24 -!- upsy has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:24:23 03dolorous * r6a3d39d10526 10/crawl-ref/source/ (monster.cc monster.h player.cc): Fix shadowed parameter warning. 16:30:13 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:09:50 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:18:40 -!- kilobyte has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:19:06 -!- kilobyte has joined ##crawl-dev 17:22:17 03dolorous * re9d2a106fec1 10/crawl-ref/source/goditem.cc: Fix Zin's potentially hating some randart books for no reason. 17:55:30 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:56:30 -!- casmith789 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:30:44 -!- kilobyte has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:10:49 -!- kilobyte has joined ##crawl-dev 19:19:06 -!- upsy has joined ##crawl-dev 19:27:01 kilobyte: Is the dgl per-game default supposed to be "ask" or "utf-8"? 19:30:40 greensnark: "unicode" merely passes text through unharassed 19:31:03 "ask" is a temporary hack for 0.6, 0.7 and current 0.8 19:31:53 So "unicode" is the right default? 19:32:10 yeah 19:32:32 but for now, please set "ask" 19:33:12 -!- Mu_ has quit [Quit: Defecator, may everything turn out okay so that you can leave this place.] 19:33:14 So just "unicode" will break IBM / DEC atm? 19:33:35 yeah 19:33:46 I'll have to recompile CAO 0.6 to support "ask", it might be easier to just drop 0.6 support now :P 19:34:10 * due eats greensnark. 19:34:25 don't you have CDO's scripts there? I could run update-cdo-0.6 and it worked. 19:34:54 but dropping is always a choice :p 19:35:00 No, CAO scripts are mostly based off CDO scripts for git master, but I haven't borrowed the 0.6/0.7 stuff 19:35:48 I haven't seen anyone playing 0.6 lately, time to kill it 19:35:54 Not even Nexos plays 0.6 19:37:42 I confess that I have totally lost the motivation to do anything crawl-related recently :/ 19:37:45 I should be taken out the back and shot. 19:39:44 don't worry, 0.8 doesn't use holyhaul or any of that abyssal stuff 19:44:11 Oh, I know -- it would be nice if it did but I kind of dropped the ball. 19:44:28 I hope to get them at least ready for a Pan level for 0.9, or a Zig or so. But at least they're not rotting in a branch and some of them are complete. 19:46:06 like Forest... it's rotting barely touched since pre-0.7 19:46:30 Ok, new dgl up on CAO 19:46:42 Aand I forgot to add the "ask" thing 19:46:54 encoding = "ask" should do it, right? 19:48:24 yeah 19:48:59 Ok, done 19:50:38 Ugh, the script is falling over :P 19:51:00 Or is that crawl telling me to press any key to continue 19:51:17 I get a lone '"' 19:51:55 Who's doing that? :P 19:51:56 it might be from this line: 19:51:57 fprintf(stderr, "Error: unknown encoding \"%s\"\nPress any key...\n", buf); 19:52:43 Sounds like it 19:58:54 Viable characters are not necessarily viable, or even possible. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3692) by Gigalith 20:03:05 Ok, what do I need to do to keep dgl happy 20:05:33 Oh, I still have the silly echo about starting game blh in there :P 20:05:34 the first (and preferably only) line should contain just "ibm", "unicode", "dec" or "ascii" 20:05:43 ah 20:05:46 Let me toss the echo 20:06:36 Ugh 20:06:41 Now I get a riff on it :P 20:07:20 riff? 20:07:32 guitarsnark? 20:07:58 Looks like it's getting a newline before the UNICODE thang 20:09:36 could you just run crawl immediately if the last arg is --print-charset? 20:09:43 without outputting anything 20:09:55 Well, in theory I'm doing that. 20:10:06 In practice I'm probably missing something 20:10:17 Let me simplify this script a tad 20:10:41 (to be honest, I didn't have a clue there's a fancy script between, and tested it on Crawl called directly) 20:10:56 Oh, there's a screen clear in the way 20:11:18 Yeah, Napkin's done a fancy little crawl launcher UI :) 20:11:20 0.7 seems to work -- it has no script, right? 20:11:29 0.7 has a barebones script 20:11:34 None of the save transfer magic 20:13:32 Ok, done 20:13:41 Seems happy now 20:15:08 Napkin: Only you remain undgled! 20:16:16 Guess it's too late for the Napking 20:16:32 For that matter, it's pretty late in most of Europe methinks 20:16:40 kilobyte: Why are you still awake anyway? 20:17:46 to see if you won't run into problems 20:18:11 ok, bed now... so I can assure it will explode in 5 seconds... 20:18:14 4... 3... 20:18:19 Looks good now, go to bed :) 20:30:59 -!- murphy_slaw has joined ##crawl-dev 20:51:53 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 21:08:49 -!- upsy has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:42:11 -!- murphy_slaw has quit [Quit: murphy_slaw] 21:44:35 -!- Pseudonut has joined ##crawl-dev 21:44:36 -!- murphy_slaw has joined ##crawl-dev 21:55:22 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:02:28 -!- murphy_slaw has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:19:28 -!- TGWi has joined ##crawl-dev 22:19:31 heyo 22:19:43 char_set=ibm suddenly stopped working for me, what should the encoding be set to for that? 22:25:05 "Recursive crash." 22:38:54 -!- TGWi has left ##crawl-dev 22:41:30 "lol 22:41:31 " 22:41:40 !tell kilobyte Two hours later it went boom! 22:41:41 due: OK, I'll let kilobyte know. 23:07:07 LuckyNed the Changer (L3 SESt) (D:1) 23:11:03 !lm type=crash -log 23:11:04 No milestones for due (type=crash). 23:11:09 !lm LuckyNed type=crash -log 23:11:09 2. LuckyNed, XL3 SESt, T:1012 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/LuckyNed/crash-LuckyNed-20110331-040706.txt 23:11:49 oooh pretty 23:20:25 due: random thought: what about making sphinxes into a holy monster? i think it would fit well with the cluster of them guarding the entrance to Tomb, to prevent people from disturbing the dead :) 23:22:42 "hm" 23:22:50 And it would fit in with smitespam. 23:25:55 and healing 23:37:55 Windows development builds on CDO updated to: 0.8.0-a0-6061-ge9d2a10 23:53:16 -!- DrPraetor has joined ##crawl-dev 23:53:47 yo haters