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You _did_ notice this. 01:54:37 the proper hooks (CIA, commit mails) can come from CDO or any other place, the hooks on SF just need to notify us 01:55:02 like, in svn days, I had the following in .procmailrc: 01:55:02 :0: 01:55:03 * ^List-Id: Source changes for crawl-ref 01:55:05 and CDO's git would be more of a real-time mirror 01:55:05 9|$HOME/.crawl-git/update >/dev/null 2>/dev/null 01:55:23 (no 9) 01:55:36 yeah 01:55:42 ah, cool 01:56:02 all the trac tickets about this breakage remaing unanswered 01:56:15 so if SF is going to fix this, they are not in a hurry 01:57:03 how do the hooks handle concurrent commits? 01:57:36 would we have to add some locking, so there are no two pushs at the same time? 01:58:33 irgs, 40 minutes late... let's get to work o/ 02:01:11 like this: http://sprunge.us/ZfQG 02:08:08 -!- galehar has joined ##crawl-dev 02:12:44 -!- cw_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:14:42 hi 02:16:18 Napkin: did oyu get any answers to your email questions? 02:20:07 -!- permagreen has joined ##crawl-dev 02:20:46 -!- permagreen has left ##crawl-dev 02:22:30 -!- Textmode has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:27:48 hi 02:27:59 hiii 02:28:06 I managed to drag myself away from work :) 02:33:31 congrats! 02:47:47 -!- Twinge_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:49:09 -!- cw_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:50:19 -!- Twinge has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:57:53 -!- nottwo has joined ##crawl-dev 03:10:45 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 03:36:33 -!- Keskitalo has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:53:38 Inaccessible Sewers (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3419) by golan2072 03:56:23 -!- Keskitalo has joined ##crawl-dev 04:09:41 https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Project%20Web%20Email%20Configuration 04:09:58 this page includes example code for a perl emailer for the new project space 04:10:28 bhaak: <3! 04:10:51 cool 04:10:58 we could probably hijack someone else's smtp erver though 04:11:09 because i'm not sure anyone knows the project password 04:11:13 don't be too excited, just because it's documented, doesn't mean it works :) 04:11:51 "Use the Project Admin / Feature Settings menu choice and choose "Manage" from the "Project Web" line" 04:12:09 I'm not sure the latter is desired anyway 04:12:14 because all of the team members can log in via the shell 04:17:13 -!- monqy has quit [Quit: hello] 04:18:04 -!- galehar has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:19:25 -!- galehar has joined ##crawl-dev 04:20:09 hii galehar 04:20:51 yo 04:20:57 Keskitalo, what is wrong with me. 04:21:13 I can probably upload 0.7.2 on Sunday earliest.. 04:21:40 * due writing verse backstory. 04:21:43 due: How so! 04:22:28 i have no idea. 04:22:40 but I somehow started writing prose backstory and now I've switched into verse. 04:22:51 and I am terrible -- terrible -- at verse. 04:24:10 the creative process has taken you over! 04:28:34 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 04:29:42 no I'm just insane 04:38:39 backstory to what? 04:39:23 nah you're just a bit wacky. eccentric, maybe 04:39:36 ortoslon: Crawl. 04:39:59 The Orb, the war between the gods -- basically giving concreteform to a lot of ideas that have been tossed around. It's not official, of course. 04:40:45 Keskitalo: it's unobvious, but after one of SF changes, you can upload arbitrary files even without admin rights 04:41:12 Keskitalo: which I found out yesterday and used 04:41:21 how convenient! 04:42:23 too bad I don't know how to get rotten fruits to work 04:42:34 "rotten fruits"? 04:42:44 Fruitdecays now? :D cool. 04:43:18 our docs don't say anything else than "you need xcode" 04:43:25 either that or he's trying to fix a broken mac... ah, heh 04:43:45 so I got that, installed, and for example headers needed to build SDL are missing 04:44:41 yes, our docs suck 04:46:55 I didn't poke around more than checking the obvious places since it's probably one line from one of our Mac users rather than hours of looking for a solution myself. 04:47:16 this means there are no 0.7.2 builds for Mac yet 04:50:38 kilobyte: Oh, so done already? Great! 04:51:14 due: Sounds great! I hope spaceships are involved! 04:55:11 Keskitalo: hah, actually, yes, but obtusely 04:55:59 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 04:56:04 it is basically a non-specific Thing that everyone wanted -- either because it was powerful or because it clouded their minds, and then finally the gods grew wary of it and cast it into the earth, etc, etc. 04:56:53 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:58:30 -!- Twinge_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:58:58 due: Very nice! 05:14:36 I have... about six stanzas. 05:43:48 moin 05:46:55 -!- cw_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:53:40 -!- Ashenzari has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:54:29 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 05:54:29 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 05:57:17 -!- cw_ has joined 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11:51:34 -!- rax has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:55:18 -!- rax_ is now known as rax 12:10:13 hm 12:10:55 Eronarn: that reminds me to get around to removing paladins :P 12:11:32 :P 12:12:00 MarvinPA: are they actually gonna be removed? 12:13:00 probably, i quite like the proposal on the wiki 12:13:01 https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:background:religious_backgrounds 12:13:08 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 12:14:19 1 god per background and only a few starting gods, much nicer 12:19:16 MarvinPA: the way I'd do it: [Pa]ladin of TSO, [He]aler of Ely, [Pr]eacher of Zin, [Me]ssiah of Beogh, [D]eath [K]night of Yredelemnul, [C]haos [K]night of Lugonu. we don't need Xom or Makhleb at all 12:20:05 HOMe sweet HOMe 12:20:40 get rid of paladins 12:20:43 but you need xom 12:21:00 not as a starting role 12:21:15 messiah as a class? 12:21:21 also, Pa sucks right now but that's mostly because TSO lacks anything to do before you run into mass demons 12:22:11 if he had a crappy/weaker activated ability that was generally useful, to go with divine shield, i think that might be enough 12:22:39 (he also probably shouldn't heal on kills, but whatever) 12:23:06 i'd say ck of xom's a pretty integral crawl-ish thing 12:24:38 CK of xom should stay IMO, it's one of the things new players play around with to start enjoying crawl & god gifts initially before they can reach d:3 12:24:51 make the xom role Loony so we can have lololololorobin (lava orc loonies only) 12:27:56 for CK of lugonu, what about shifter, it's what all the dracs who banish you are :P 12:28:25 shifter is a tloc title 12:28:26 nah 12:29:01 lugonu is about corruption not shifting 12:29:18 but corruptor sounds kind of silly 12:30:05 chaos knight is fine for lugonu 12:30:16 xom should get something madness or insanity related 12:31:00 (also, i want there to be a lovecraftian god so we can have Alienist <3) 12:34:26 so, forest wyrms: does anyone have thoughts on where to place them? 12:34:53 forest branch 12:34:55 too strong for lair? 12:35:03 @??forest wyrm 12:35:03 unknown monster: "forest wyrm" 12:35:31 lair's been too overrun by elephants, it needs soething interesting to make up for it 12:37:55 st_: they're pretty tough; i started with hydra base stats 12:38:03 they only get one attack but it's damage 35 12:38:34 they might be fun if they were much later but showed up in packs 12:38:46 (slime creatures) 12:38:57 casmith789: they're not at all like slime creatures 12:39:00 but without flavour 12:43:48 trampling slime creatures that trap you in plants then ram you up against them and don't merge 12:48:59 monqy: slime creatures would be a lot deadlier if they could trap you :P 13:15:56 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:18:36 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 13:25:39 -!- dpeg_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:25:39 Evenings! 13:26:24 evening 13:26:49 children time actually, back later 13:27:38 it is bad form to join IRC only to say right away that you go away 13:28:13 that's why so many people just idle forever! 13:28:22 that's right! 13:42:25 -!- Adeon is now known as Titanothere 13:43:30 -!- Titanothere is now known as Adeon 14:16:03 -!- TGWi has joined ##crawl-dev 14:16:36 -!- eith has quit [Quit: sleep] 14:22:10 -!- Textmode has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:27:11 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 14:36:42 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 14:39:48 -!- Moriasc has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:13:20 -!- ortoslon has quit [Quit: bye] 15:22:47 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:29:04 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:32:33 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:46:05 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:57:41 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 16:00:44 foolish complaints 16:05:25 !seen galehar 16:05:26 I last saw galehar at Fri Feb 11 17:03:37 2011 UTC (5h 1m 49s ago) quitting with message Quit: Page closed. 16:05:43 we live to complain 16:06:20 regarding something, or just in general? 16:06:29 in general 16:06:40 complaining about generals 16:09:10 !tell galehar there were non-chain instant paralysis deaths before, and nothing has changed 16:09:10 TGWi: OK, I'll let galehar know. 16:11:44 someone should commit "smited by beogh" and "beogh smited you" 16:11:51 stupid obscure verbs don't get to be irregular 16:13:49 "you are smitten with Beogh" 16:16:45 anyone tried a serious zinite post-recite-changes? 16:18:41 gretell should respond to !vault 16:18:48 I did 16:18:50 or at least, henzell should learn about trunk vaults 16:19:10 Eronarn: looked good, although I abandoned the guy -- DD wasn't a good choice for Zin testing 16:19:25 !lm . god=zin 16:19:26 40. [2011-02-03] TGW the Protected (L10 MDPr) killed Psyche on turn 16182. (D:11) 16:19:38 how do you search for abandonment? 16:19:47 dpeg_: really? they have invo +2 (for some reason) 16:19:50 !lm * type=god.abandon 16:19:50 No milestones for * (type=god.abandon). 16:19:53 hm 16:20:01 or do you just mean that DD have weird balance in general 16:20:04 -!- galehar has joined ##crawl-dev 16:20:04 !lm * type=~god s=type 16:20:10 DD really like a god that heals them 16:20:14 hi 16:20:14 galehar: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 16:20:16 hi galehar 16:20:19 !messages 16:20:20 (1/1) TGWi said (11m 9s ago): there were non-chain instant paralysis deaths before, and nothing has changed 16:20:20 Eronarn: yes, but it is unusual gameplay nonetheless 16:20:22 70493 milestones for * (type=~god): 63619x god.worship, 4590x god.renounce, 2284x god.mollify 16:20:23 galehar: hi! 16:20:26 ah, renounce 16:20:39 !lm . type=~god.renounce 16:20:42 35. [2011-02-07] TGW the Summoner (L8 KeSu) abandoned Kikubaaqudgha on turn 12394. (D:8) 16:20:46 !lm . type=~god.renounce -2 16:20:46 34. [2011-02-03] TGW the Protected (L11 MDPr) abandoned Zin on turn 17032. (D:7) 16:20:53 !lm dpeg type=~god.renounce 16:21:19 TGWi: I sneakily reduced paralysis duration by 1 just by moving some functions around :) 16:21:20 Interesting email from git. 16:21:23 galehar: :P 16:21:25 5. [2010-04-16] dpeg the Bludgeoner (L21 DSFi) abandoned Makhleb on turn 109942. (Lair:6) 16:21:42 i think 1d3+1 might work ok for paralysis 16:21:48 maybe 1d4+1 16:21:51 2d2 or 1d3+1 sound good yeah 16:21:53 dpeg_: sorear suggested we dump sf for github. 16:22:13 dpeg thinks getting paralysed for 7 turns is not that bad... 16:22:17 due: please do, I need to be able to search commits :( 16:22:18 it is that bad 16:22:26 galehar: it's pretty bad 16:22:26 due: I am in no position to make proposals, but I support moving away from SF. 16:22:42 due: I did not suggest github specifically, although they are of course a front-runner 16:22:45 wimps! :) 16:22:45 (due: I know you're glad to have my approval) 16:23:06 sorear: ah -- it must have been greensnark who said github a while back, then 16:23:10 ther eis also gitorious, no? 16:23:13 ais523: what's your favorite public code host? I know you have strong feelings about github 16:23:25 pfft, i was doing crawl on github before it was cool 16:23:27 I normally use either gitorious or patch-tag 16:23:36 mostly based on how many people I expect to collaborate with 16:23:46 also, github changed their ToS to not quite be so amazingly stupid 16:23:53 what are the specific issues with github? 16:24:16 their ToS used to be massively and evilly restricted, requiring all sorts of things I wouldn't agree with 16:24:41 the most ridiculous one was probably banning ad-blockers on free accounts, which is doubly silly because github doesn't actually have ads 16:25:23 Okay, so what's gitorious or patch-tag like/ 16:25:27 but then, I'm a bit different from most people, as I use them for pure hosting rather than for complicated social network stuff 16:25:42 gitorious is just simple git hosting, with a nice interface 16:25:50 you set up your account, then just push and pull to the repo 16:26:06 and there's a web interface to browse, etc 16:26:13 How does it cope with collaborators? 16:26:14 patch-tag's for darcs, and really rudimentary, but it does what I want 16:26:27 on both of them, you can just add people via the web interface 16:26:40 and SSH keypairs are used in order to verify identity 16:26:41 hm, Gitorious would appear to not have any commercial aspects 16:27:43 due: that's good, isn't it? 16:27:49 yes 16:27:50 to me, it doesn't massively matter where something's hosted, as you can push and pull regardless 16:28:11 Well, I would say let's not touch github then. 16:28:26 I am reading gitorious's ToS and it is a thousand times saner. 16:29:26 Their ToS is CC-BY-SA licensed. <3 16:29:34 it's also usual, on those sort of places, for people to quickly make their own clone repos 16:29:45 Yes 16:29:52 e.g. it makes sense that random people can't push to the main Crawl repo, or whatever; but they can make their own copies trivially and push changes there 16:29:57 I use github under my real name for some other projects. 16:30:16 github has a really big social thing going on with respect to that, which I don't really like 16:30:27 but which seems to be the main reason it's popular 16:30:28 I haven't really interacted with the social part of it. 16:30:40 but the forking interface has been very, very nice 16:30:49 also the graph stuff is great 16:30:54 commits by time, person, etc. 16:31:24 i actually have crawl in github, because it's not in github so I can't just fork off of it 16:31:45 Oh hey, cool, 'due' isn't taken :d 16:31:47 which means i get to see what it looks like 16:32:04 as i didn't squash it or anything, so it has all the normal crawl commit messages 16:32:08 it is *very* slick 16:32:10 dpeg_: Can you email me the list of dev emails again? 16:33:28 check it out: https://github.com/Eronarn/Crawling-Chaos/graphs/impact 16:33:37 (it is BIG, so it'll take a while to load) 16:34:56 Okay, here's a difficult question: what do I put down as our licene? 16:35:07 due: yes 16:35:22 Other Open Source Initiative approved? 16:35:29 It would have to be, coniering it's GPL-derived. 16:36:34 due: from 0.8 onwards, we claim it to be GPL2 16:36:53 wow, did everyone agree to the license update? 16:37:03 yes 16:37:14 \o/ 16:37:21 oh hooray 16:37:25 Even Napkin comes out of his cave to celebrate :) 16:37:38 We should update the in-repository documents 16:37:40 (We Germans inhabitate nice big caves.) 16:37:46 :D 16:37:54 i want a cave :( 16:38:19 Napkin: would you be able to host c-r-d? That would in theory be the only thing left on SourceForge, apart from doownloads. 16:38:48 we could just move to rec.games.roguelikes :p 16:38:53 sure, but it'll take some time 16:39:00 crawl.develz.org/trunk already has the important downloads 16:39:06 TGWi: yes, exactly 16:39:11 :P 16:39:13 don't have any mailinglist stuff active yet 16:39:30 That's fine, no worries at the minute 16:43:32 who's tycho? 16:44:38 Tycho Brahe, Czech astronomerß 16:44:53 some guy who added 100,000 lines (?) 16:45:01 probably not the same person 16:45:36 you neverknow 16:51:34 Project made! 16:52:46 Who here on the development tema has a gitorious account? 16:53:06 I'm making one 16:53:45 done 16:53:59 hooray 16:54:01 "galehar"? 16:54:12 yes 16:54:28 so i made a sourceforge account and only needed it for a few days? :P 16:54:37 MarvinPA: them's the breaks :D 16:54:40 heh 16:54:59 MarvinPA: be happy you didn't need it for longer :) 16:56:05 haha 16:59:00 dpeg_: Do you have an account? 17:00:22 nope 17:01:43 http://gitorious.com :D 17:01:48 http://gitorious.org/crawl 17:02:57 yeah, I found the project 17:03:09 it's telling me that the repository is being created 17:03:19 people will click the first link in the description: Linley’s Dungeon Crawl 17:04:55 yes, I may unlink it 17:05:06 sorry, please go on :) 17:05:13 galehar: Say it's created for me 17:05:42 yeah, it's fine 17:05:55 so, is it up-to-date? 17:05:59 should I push to it? 17:06:53 I'm just about to 17:07:00 guys? would you please compare ping times between crawl.develz.org and crash.develz.org? 17:07:33 426ms for crash 17:07:50 418ms for crawl 17:07:54 :-O 17:08:04 crawl ~ 70ms crash ~ 55ms 17:08:06 galehar: I have pushed but it's a bit slow because it's having to psh the whole history 17:08:08 how about crash's ipv6? 17:08:26 due: You ask me in ##crawl-offtopic like I'm not lurking here. :P 17:08:31 ah, you checked pings while pushing, due? 17:11:49 Napkin: yes, sorry, forgot to say 17:12:00 git clone ssh://git@gitorious.org/crawl/crawl.git 17:12:02 Cloning into crawl... 17:12:03 warning: You appear to have cloned an empty repository. 17:12:04 np, you're pusy 17:12:14 *busy! 17:12:36 cloning an empty repo is usual when initialising a repo on a hosting website 17:12:39 argh 17:12:45 you clone their repo, then pull yours, then push to theirs 17:13:12 45% 17:16:55 Okay 17:16:56 pushed 17:17:01 jeeeeez that took a long time 17:17:30 enne: Yes, sorry, I thought I had typed it in here -- I saw you were active in there. Obviously I forgot to switch window. 17:17:53 I'm not pushing any branches... 17:18:34 though I will ad the submodules 17:19:07 next time push from cdo ;) 17:19:19 Napkin: crash: rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 29.254/33.140/59.671/4.868 ms 17:19:19 Napkin: crawl: rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 28.037/33.246/59.618/6.509 ms 17:19:29 almost identical 17:19:32 your location, RjY? 17:19:44 Napkin: england 17:19:50 good 17:19:55 so you can't search commits? :( 17:20:02 especially interested from results from the US 17:21:04 enne? could you compare ping times to crawl.develz.org (ipv4 only) and crash.develz.org (ipv4 & ipv6), please? 17:21:24 TTL exceeded! hey cool 17:21:51 Oh, wait, wrong option. 17:22:55 Napkin: crash: rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 161.604/162.486/163.037/0.572 ms 17:23:08 Npakin: crawl: rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 168.569/169.981/171.649/1.281 ms 17:23:22 rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 417.055/420.526/454.388/7.943 ms 17:23:29 that's for crawl.develz.org for me, from Australia. 17:23:35 wow, you have a good ping to cdo, enne :-O 17:23:56 mine's terrible to basically anywhere outside of australia 17:24:04 crash: rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 425.248/427.838/447.642/4.844 ms 17:24:07 same for crash, huh, due? 17:24:21 pity 17:24:29 447 eh? is that to the Moon and back? :p 17:24:31 I hoped crash would have a better connection 17:24:42 Napkin: That is my ping to basically anywhere in Europe. 17:24:45 sorear, would you check too, please? 17:25:03 My ping to gitorious.com is 430ms. 17:25:12 CAO is a little better at 330. 17:25:51 rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 34.183/35.988/38.292/1.354 ms (CDO for me, I live in Europe) 17:28:21 crawl - rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 174.068/177.372/187.761/3.099 ms 17:28:43 crash - rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 174.301/175.283/176.051/0.618 ms 17:28:53 dooooh... 17:29:05 thanks 17:29:05 where is crawl.develz.org? 17:29:11 .de 17:29:24 I should have guessed... 17:29:29 I am writing an email 17:29:41 crawl is from ip-server.de, crash is the new server from hetzner.de 17:32:23 i get 106ish for both from the pittsburgh box my irc instance is on 17:32:45 galehar: "germany/europe" 17:33:12 i'm surprised.. i remember people telling me, their ping was around 300ms 17:33:26 maybe because of the day&time 17:33:37 i'll ask again during next week ;) 17:33:58 anyone running ipv6? 17:37:41 not I, though I should 17:38:17 dpeg_: gitorious account yet? ;D 17:38:33 well, the new server will definitely have ipv6 17:39:02 due: I've got a couple of commits to push. Can I push them to gitorious? Or should I stick to sf for now? 17:39:34 due: no time tonight, but I will work off some vaulty duties. 17:39:47 okay :) 17:39:51 ah, will I be able to push as usual? 17:39:52 galehar: push them to gitorious, please 17:40:01 how? 17:40:10 galehar: I'm just explaining this in an email :) 17:40:39 ok 17:40:40 :) 17:41:31 basically 17:41:56 git remote set-url origin git@gitorious.com:crawl/crawl.git 17:41:59 commits to SF are disabled already? 17:42:04 Napkin: no 17:42:11 we'r enot going to be able to disable them easily 17:42:16 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 17:42:27 but it shouldn't be too difficult to merge any changes that go to SF back into gitorious 17:42:36 git is that flexiible ;D 17:42:39 uuhh 17:42:51 yes, but still messy 17:42:58 yeah 17:43:26 I have suggested that everyone push to gitorious intead, and any changes that accidentally get made to sourceforge can be rebased onto gitorious and pushed there. 17:43:26 put back the old broken mail hook that refuses everything. instant sf commit disable 17:43:36 RjY: ... so true 17:43:42 hehe 17:43:47 i was thinking the same ;) 17:43:47 Does anyone object to my doing that? 17:43:52 galehar, kilobyte, sorear, dpeg_? 17:44:35 due: no, that's fine, although I would have added Marc to the email :) 17:44:46 oh, didn't I? 17:44:57 aargh sorry Napkin, will include youon my addendun 17:45:04 pah! 17:45:05 :> 17:45:36 due: so should I push to SF or not? These vaults can wait another week, they're patient... 17:45:48 dpeg_: Probably wait would be good 17:45:56 Creating a gitorious account doesn't take a minute, though! 17:46:15 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:46:20 but some mental focus 17:46:26 hah, true. :) 17:46:46 not really.. i was playing crawl and watching series while i did ;) 17:47:51