00:06:42 -!- tycho__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:11:31 -!- tycho__ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:19:26 03dolorous * r5d4e37c59f7e 10/crawl-ref/source/godabil.cc: Add sanity checks to yred_can_animate_dead(). 00:29:15 03dolorous * rd6637cfeaf5f 10/crawl-ref/source/religion.cc: Fix Yred's corresponding ability downgrade message. 00:33:50 03dolorous * r41bf579fc7c5 10/crawl-ref/source/religion.cc: Move the string replacement convenience functions up. 00:33:52 03dolorous * rec04adf3ab88 10/crawl-ref/source/religion.cc: Fix message inconsistency. 00:53:03 -!- tycho__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:00:02 -!- Wensley has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:01:53 03dolorous * rf4f906c80fd7 10/crawl-ref/source/abl-show.cc: Don't allow using Yred's Injury Mirror when it's already active. 01:01:53 03dolorous * r75aef1b2c9e5 10/crawl-ref/source/abl-show.cc: Add spacing fixes. 01:09:32 03dolorous * r34baf136643b 10/crawl-ref/source/ (godabil.cc godabil.h): Remove now-unused parameter from yred_injury_mirror(). 01:15:48 03dolorous * rce241da55dfb 10/crawl-ref/source/ (abl-show.cc godabil.cc religion.cc): Let Yred's Injury Mirror be available at piety breakpoint 1 again. 01:43:53 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 02:31:16 -!- Wensley has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:32:35 -!- casmith789 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:33:51 -!- casmith789 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:34:52 -!- tycho__ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:40:49 -!- varmin has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:41:27 -!- varmin has joined ##crawl-dev 02:48:31 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:48:43 -!- casmith789 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:53:42 -!- casmith789 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:53:47 -!- Galehar has joined ##crawl-dev 03:03:53 !messages 03:03:53 No messages for due. 03:06:50 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 03:07:21 -!- due is now known as zue 03:14:36 -!- zue is now known as due 03:16:02 -!- Adeon is now known as MaryPoppins 03:45:17 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:53:26 -!- Textmode has quit [Quit: Over the ages, man has been certain of a great many things. some of these things were even true.] 03:57:42 Moin! 04:07:18 g'morn 04:13:56 -!- Morg0th has joined ##crawl-dev 04:15:42 Hello, where can I ask to join the DCSS dev team? I'd like to help to develop it if you're looking for new contributors 04:19:22 I'm not part of the dev team but I can answer this 04:19:37 if you want to contribute, make some patches and submit them on mantis 04:20:01 if they are good, they will go in 04:20:36 ok I'll do that then. so there isn't any todo list or something like that? 04:20:39 contributions are always welcome 04:21:14 well, there are plenty of ideas on the wiki 04:21:25 ok thank you 04:22:17 there's a category implementable on mantis for things that have been approved and that needs to be codded. 04:22:34 it's not really used now, but that's the idea 04:23:12 on the wiki, there are a lot of things on the xom and interface pages 04:24:17 yes I just saw this category on the wiki 04:54:02 -!- Wensley has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:57:48 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 04:57:53 Hi everyone 04:58:05 !seen kilobyte 04:58:05 I last saw kilobyte at Mon Oct 4 22:28:34 2010 UTC (11h 29m 31s ago) saying so, when are we going to add Elbereth? on ##crawl-dev. 05:02:12 !tell kilobyte dolorous is a cool guy, he cleared up all the Yrdy prayer bits nicely. However, I am not sure he'll tackle the remaining p<-->a bits. Do you want to, or should I ask him? 05:02:12 dpeg: OK, I'll let kilobyte know. 05:04:13 Hi 05:05:09 Hi! 05:07:01 I am overdue with the bailey cleanup :O 05:07:15 But I guess I'll only produce some more Implementables this week. 05:20:49 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:28:35 -!- rkd has joined ##crawl-dev 05:34:27 More interesting vestibule (easy) (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2678) by dpeg 06:01:25 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 06:05:18 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 06:09:12 dpeg, bailey cleanup? 06:14:32 * lorimer pokes dpeg in the eye 06:14:47 qui m'a beepé? 06:18:32 tiens, un compatriote :) 06:21:22 * lorimer grumbles 06:21:41 all that beepin' an nobody around :D 06:21:42 sorry 06:21:54 J'ai mang´e. 06:22:23 :) 06:23:11 My French is very rusty: nobody at school told it could be good for something, so I never paid attention. 06:25:11 lorimer: I was wondering about you yesterday because bhaak spoke of his secret dreams.... overtaking Nethack. 06:25:28 ahhh 06:25:36 see, i never had any secret dreams of that :) 06:25:42 And I wondered if you had similar dreams :) 06:25:51 public dreams, eh :P 06:25:55 nah 06:26:08 i figured if it happened, it would happen from the playerbase 06:26:26 you need to french it up dpeg 06:26:26 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqwzvtjeYBQ 06:26:29 I met bhaak recently, and I am now convinced he will use brute force to realise his dreams. 06:26:32 bhaak: more power to you! 06:26:38 rkd: no youtube for me. 06:26:42 Thanks + sorry :) 06:26:45 if it didn't, it didn't... no big deal :) 06:27:32 He even forced jpeg to work as a Nethack slave. 06:27:39 Which is a horrendous crime. 06:27:45 wow, I figured you would be like "what is friends anyway?" but no youtube? ;P 06:27:47 She was supposed to work forever as a Crawl slave. 06:33:07 -!- casmith789 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:34:46 Interface improvements (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2680) by dpeg 06:34:46 More Xom effects (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2679) by dpeg 06:38:56 -!- tycho__ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:42:33 I thought she was doing nlarn? 06:44:11 yes, but now she also translates the NH manual 06:44:19 heck, she even _plays_ Nethack 06:44:21 * dpeg shudders. 06:45:04 ... 06:45:05 :( 06:45:19 We should hold a funeral for our dearly departed developr. 06:45:56 yes, indeed 06:46:24 -!- casmith789 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:46:40 This is only because she met bhaak last year at the IRDC and I wasn't there. So bhaak could use his wizard-of-yendor tricks on her. 06:48:43 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:55:44 SUBST: k = wW1 | MONS: plant <- will this work to make "k" either deep/shallow water or a plant? 06:56:35 I'm guessing I need another commando to make the monster 06:56:42 -o 07:07:39 http://pastebin.com/dtmJe783 07:07:51 my 2nd try at an entry vault :P 07:13:34 -!- dpeg_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:13:41 no 07:13:43 rkd: your line does not work 07:13:47 you need 07:15:23 rkd: you've got a reply? (I've been losing connection.) 07:16:09 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 07:16:13 =) 07:16:21 I can't remember what you need 07:16:47 due: same question as before? 07:16:50 SUBST: k = wwWW1 07:17:04 if k becomes a 1, shouldnt that 1 become a plant then? :S 07:17:58 Napkin: can we get new trunk on CDO? 07:18:06 rkd: yes, of course 07:18:18 by - could you merge squarelos? 07:18:18 with MONS: plant 07:18:25 Napkin: by is not around 07:18:34 Napkin: may have to go without it 07:18:49 Galehar: do you have commit rights? 07:19:00 nope 07:19:00 last question so I can actually run through all the flame/freezing clouds. how do I make for example 10 healing potions drop on a spot? :) 07:19:02 that would mean switching back, away from squarelos, dpeg 07:19:22 Napkin: I am aware of that, but I want to test the changest to amnesia :) 07:19:56 grrr... public repository has a corruption.. _again_ 07:20:03 git is driving me crazy with that! 07:20:10 bbl 07:20:16 :/ 07:23:11 rkd: quantity:10 or so 07:25:40 thanks 07:32:11 hm 07:32:19 crawl doesnt like to make 2 vaults on d:1? :S 07:36:43 rkd: no, I don't think you can have two PLACE: D:1 work at once. 07:36:47 Crawl will pick just one. 07:36:53 rkd: do you need more than that? 07:37:34 Just do DEPTH: D:1 and WEIGHT: 100000 or so 07:38:29 ok, repository fixed 07:38:39 dpeg_ no it is working very fine now :) 07:38:41 with entries, there are still surprisingly many times when you won'T get your vault :) 07:38:45 rkd: cool 07:39:29 rkd: when you're happy with it, please upload to Mantis. I will review and commit. 07:40:42 will do :) 07:42:26 When Terence drinks a potion of healing, the type should be known, right? 07:42:36 Am I dreaming, or did it used to be like this? 07:43:09 I think so 07:43:13 it's not anymore? 07:43:46 I don't recall it was but who knows 07:43:52 i mean it could be a potion of heal wounds too 07:44:07 Galehar: wasn't just now 07:44:15 syllogism: so you say it was never like this? 07:44:39 I'm saying I don't recall it autoidentifying 07:44:53 Only if it heals him 07:45:07 due it did 07:45:35 _You miss Terence. Terence drinks a potion. Terence is healed! 07:45:47 But I had no knowledge of any potions afterwards. 07:46:49 hm colouring didn't work tho. for example SUBST: S = x COLOUR: S = red <- does not give me red rock walls which I had hoped 07:47:03 what's the current save tag version of master? 07:47:34 I'm afraid the savegames will be broken, when I switch back from squarelos to master, unless save version is raised 07:47:51 and there are currently 70 chars playing 07:47:57 rkd: do it the other way around 07:47:58 (created) 07:48:11 Napkin: ah, saves have been increased yes 07:48:35 since sept 27th? 07:48:58 yes 07:49:00 squarelos->master is not compatible 07:49:01 dpeg: I just checked the source, potion of healing is identify if any status ailments are cured 07:49:02 it will berak 07:49:22 hence the question, due 07:49:36 Napkin: I added compatibility for switching back and forth 07:49:36 kilobyte: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 07:49:46 oh, I lie 07:50:12 it was raised to 31 - sept. 27th is 30 07:50:26 Galehar: thank you 07:50:40 so - just for the record - CDO "wants" to be switched back to master, ja? 07:50:56 there was some hack to adjust the LOS range in major 30, I'm not sure if it's safe to mess with it 07:50:56 (away from squarelos) 07:50:59 Galehar: and !HW is identified when the monster is healed? 07:51:02 kilobyte: Hi! 07:51:31 no, HW is not identified when used by monster 07:51:33 I raised minor when I did fear 07:52:20 * due sleeps. 07:52:32 g'night, due :) 07:52:41 due: night! 07:54:52 initfile.cc:623: warning: ‘std::string _user_home_crawl_subpath(std::string)’ defined but not used 07:56:19 Unstable branch on CDO updated to: 0.8.0-a0-1675-gce241da (31.2) 07:57:09 thank you 07:57:20 Any objections to !Healing and !HW id on use? 07:57:24 Even Nethack has it :) 07:57:56 maybe the fix to the II screen should be commited if CDO is being updated 07:57:59 no sweat - building new windows builds too 07:58:08 Mantis 2677 07:58:20 Galehar: this isn't urgent :) 07:58:30 -!- lorimer has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 07:58:31 Galehar: CDO can be updated any time - usually no need to hurry 07:58:42 ok 08:00:20 dpeg: maybe one is id on monster use, only if you have already id the other? 08:00:44 -!- lorimer has joined ##crawl-dev 08:01:44 Galehar: ah, that might be 08:01:50 I'll find a spot on the wiki to add this. 08:02:17 They get {tried by monster} at least, I think,. 08:02:27 which is probably better than full id 08:02:33 dpeg: or change the messages: right now, they both print "foo is healed!". It could be "foo looks better." and "foo looks much better!" 08:02:53 they do 08:04:31 Galehar: if we print different messages, we may as well id the potions :) 08:04:52 dpeg: yes, that's what I meant 08:05:14 like when you use them yourself 08:05:50 sorry for the noise, but the {tried} is probably mroe interesting 08:05:55 not even Nethack has that =) 08:06:15 true 08:06:46 and if we id the healing potions, we won't have it anymore because they are the only ones who does 08:06:59 (and blood potions quaffed by vampire) 08:07:13 what is this nethack thing you keep talking about? 08:07:22 ;) 08:07:32 hehe 08:07:42 Galehar: did you play other roguelikes before? 08:07:47 Your age would indicate so... :) 08:07:52 nethack 08:08:02 a bit of slash'em 08:08:14 I've tried doomRL recently 08:08:45 but I'm into roguelike since only a year ago (or maybe a year and a half, can't remember) 08:08:50 ah, I see 08:08:55 how did you pick it up? 08:09:12 I don't even remember 08:09:22 I must have read something about nethack on the net 08:09:39 and thought that this is my kind of things 08:10:08 but I remember how I started crawling 08:10:10 cool 08:10:28 It has good and bad sides that Nethack is the most wellknown roguelikes. 08:10:29 John Harris @play's blog 08:10:44 well, it's a fascinating game to discover 08:10:55 Galehar: ah yes. He also featured Crawl, and gave it a lot of praise, so I won't complain. 08:10:57 but once you have won it a few times, it gets boring 08:11:28 the Crawlapalooza series of articles 08:11:51 that's what started it for me :) 08:12:10 he's going to cover crawl's sprint mode soon 08:12:45 Galehar: you won a few times? So you gave in to the spoilers... 08:12:51 Galehar: oh, awesome 08:13:11 yeah, I did played nethack spoiled to death :) 08:14:25 spoiled to win! 08:14:56 Windows Development Builds at Revision: 0.8.0-a0-1675-gce241da 08:15:02 Mahlzeit! 08:15:03 o/ 08:15:04 thank you! 08:15:09 hey I found a scroll of amnesia :O 08:15:17 st_: what level? 08:15:22 D:3 08:15:25 good 08:25:34 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 08:25:45 sigh, I'm really hating the ZvT matchup. 08:26:03 oh, hai guys. xchat cycled me over 08:30:02 Cryp71c: Hi! Great to see you. 08:30:30 * kilobyte meows at Cryp71c. 08:30:42 03kilobyte * r07a19813d671 10/crawl-ref/licence.txt: Require new contributions to be dual licensed. 08:30:46 03raphael.langella * ree62edaeb7a4 10/crawl-ref/source/teleport.cc: Allow merfolk/kenku to blink over deep water/lava 08:32:00 meow! 08:32:23 Cryp71c: do you have a private plan for how to proceed with the DS? 08:32:33 I am just playing one for fun, and I like it so much. 08:32:47 DS is fun 08:33:15 Cryp71c: as you are here, here's the big question: 1. do you agree to relicense your code under the GPL or any compatible license, and 2. do you want to mark a preference for something else like BSD/MIT? 08:33:25 felirx: same to you 08:33:29 less mail spam :p 08:33:52 as soon as I get my lazy ass up 08:34:41 I was hoping to get most of the menus done by 0.8 but not sure when the release date is for it 08:35:30 felirx: we're roughly releasing twice a year, so it's not close 08:36:00 there's no pressing need to release soon 08:36:17 0.6 had lots of new contents, 0.7 was a balancing release 08:36:24 right now I'w breaking ff7 08:36:31 Aeris limits and enemy skill just breaks the game :( 08:36:56 0.8 doesn't yet have anything big 08:37:26 felirx: does it feel good to break a game? 08:37:43 Natural follow-up: wouldn't it be cooler to make a certain game unbreakable? =) 08:38:04 the limit makes your party fully invulnerable for x turns 08:38:07 silly design 08:38:30 I believe that commerical games can be more sloppy with design. 08:39:21 it's not even her ultimate 08:39:26 People pay mostly for other qualities. Roguelikes look so damn shabby, they better make up with something else (as NH, DF, DCSS all try to do in various ways).. 08:39:32 ultimate gives full status restore, full heal for hp and mp and invulnerability 08:39:44 commercial games want you to pay once. You may be affected by reviews and word of mouth, but once you have deep knowledge of the game, your opinion is no longer relevant. 08:39:48 kilobyte, Yes, No 08:39:53 pay and play once 08:40:07 replayability depends entirely on the game 08:40:08 hehe felirx you fixed so you can play with aeris all game I'm guessing? 08:40:10 you don't have to balance the game all that much when there's not supposed to be replayability 08:40:16 rkd: still on disc one 08:40:17 and these things take time to figureo ut 08:40:20 will fix it like that after though 08:40:22 syllogism: yes, that's what I am saying 08:40:38 kotor for instance almost requires you to play it through twice 08:40:48 Cryp71c, felirx: please reply to kilobyte 08:40:55 dpeg_, I'm still continuing on the path I was before, its finding development time that's the issue. I think I'll be able to go back to working on crawl from work, though, so I might return to more of my previous development schedule. 08:40:57 dpeg_: Cryp71c just did 08:41:07 We would really like to move on with the licenses, and you provided code. (And hopefully continue to do so.) 08:41:12 dpeg_: I'll send a mail in a minute 08:41:23 Cryp71c: thanks for both! 08:41:33 dpeg_, but in general, I need to fix the scheduling (still) and then look into spiny-izing monsters. 08:41:46 dpeg_: you're in, of course? You are but formally I have to ask. 08:41:48 Cryp71c: not urgent, but good to see you cover that. 08:41:54 kilobyte: sure 08:42:03 I don't have a preference wrt license if that matters. 08:42:10 I'll gladly follow the herd. 08:42:14 I'm planning on fixing the skill screen and shop next when I find time 08:42:18 btw, now that I have some code in: I am fine with GPL :) 08:42:23 after that it's a harder project with the help pages 08:42:49 Galehar: great, I'll mark you so 08:42:53 felirx: we have this annoying problem that so many scrolling lists look different -- you mean that? 08:43:17 mainly, imagine you can actually click on the different headlines in the ? screen on tiles 08:43:23 instead of having to locate the letter on your keyb 08:44:03 felirx: ah, I see. Feel free to improve tiles interface in any way. They need it, with jpeg sleeping with the enemy and Enne busy. 08:44:28 after I get those done, I'll do... something to the spell effects 08:44:45 felirx: but I actually meant console scrolling screens: manual, inventory, Ctrl-P (and some more) all use different keys and layouts. 08:45:02 felirx: cool, splashy visual effects on tiles? 08:45:07 probably 08:45:21 nice 08:45:46 kilobyte: did you see my message? Should I ask dolorous for the other p/a pieces? 08:46:30 dpeg_: it's not a big piece of work, while doing Yred I noticed it's mostly a matter of ripping away code rather than adding it 08:47:20 I need a reply, so I can write to David, or not :) 08:48:11 oh and for what it's worth, anything I've contributed can conform to whatever licence you choose 08:48:18 I actually thought it was under gpl already 08:48:37 felirx: yesterday I learned it is under gpl-1 or somesuch 08:48:53 something like a precursor 08:49:01 felirx: that's a very common mistake 08:49:42 dpeg_: yeah, it was something that became GPL-1 several months later, after a lot of brainstorming 08:50:50 kilobyte: but one that should encourage us to actually switch to a real license (and perhaps gives more weight to GPL) 08:52:20 -!- upsy has joined ##crawl-dev 09:00:05 dpeg: what should be the piety and penance penalties for destroying book? 09:01:40 Galehar: to Sif? 09:01:46 yes 09:02:30 should it depend on book value, number of spell in book, be randomised or just straight number? 09:02:31 Galehar: always penance. 09:02:39 yes, but how much? 09:02:46 I'm not familiar with these numbers 09:02:48 what is our scale? 09:02:51 me neither! 09:03:09 ok, I'll try to give reference points 09:03:37 It should depend on the maximal level of a spell in the book. Drastically increase penance if that book was a Sif gift or contains Sif in its title. 09:04:25 piety = max spell level 09:05:02 kilobyte: no need to reply to the mail, right? 09:05:35 dpeg_: for you, nope 09:06:17 I mentioned that I'm adding you to CC just in case of a discussion 09:06:56 alright, just going safe 09:07:05 Galehar: so between 1 and 9? 09:07:46 seems low. maxlevel + 5 09:08:17 penance = piety. (*2 if sif gift or name) 09:08:23 what are typical values for other gods? 09:08:42 ah, penance is liky piety, only that you have to work it back up? 09:08:46 for example cannibalism is 10 piety and 10 penance 09:09:26 drinking blood is 8 piety. Penance is the same except for TSO it's *2 09:10:18 yes, often penance = -piety in conducts 09:10:18 ah, I see, so the unit we measure this is piety 09:10:37 maxlevel + 5 09:10:48 seems good, plus doubling 09:10:58 OK, I'll start with that 09:11:05 cool 09:15:30 kilobyte: hey, fittingly Chris finished the tiles license quest in great form 09:21:35 damnit 09:22:33 I got 3 squares, and 2 different fog_generators that I want on these 3 squares. tho I want the ratio to be 2:1 but random order on these 3 squares :D 09:22:44 NSUBST 09:23:02 I tried nsubst didnt get it to work. not sure I did correctly tho 09:23:41 I tried NSUBST: G = 1:? / *:! (? is thin mist, and ! is freezing vapour) 09:23:43 if the squares are called A and your fog generators ' (once) and " (twice) then use NSUBST: A = 1:' / *:" 09:24:12 rkd: do you define the triggers before or after? 09:24:22 yea I might've put them too late 09:24:24 gonna try again 09:25:39 this is way too addictive. almost destroyed my pot boiling water. forgot it on the stove for quite a while. lets just say there was no water left :D 09:26:08 haha 09:26:19 yeah, it's even worse than playing the damn game :) 09:27:38 well now it worked, I guess this version is done then :) 09:28:30 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 09:29:34 Galehar: the good thing about a game like this is that you can take a break for a few years and it will be there when you come back. Or in other words, the addiction will not time out :) 09:34:40 ??mantis 09:34:41 mantis[1/1]: The replacement for sourceforge, mantis can be found at http://crawl.develz.org/mantis 09:43:36 is there a limit to name length? 09:44:49 I am asking because changing 09:44:50 I tried typing one in on a local copy and it stoppe at 30 chars 09:44:53 Level 13 Yellow Draconian of The Shining O 09:44:54 to 09:45:03 Yellow Draconian of The Shining One ****** 09:45:17 would be cool, if we move the Level to the top line. 09:45:19 dpeg are you still ignoring me :( 09:45:32 how long can Jiyva's titles be? 09:46:00 yes, what are the longest titles? 09:46:27 kilobyte: oh, you mean Jiyva's names? 09:46:29 Those should be okay 09:46:34 I hope you would know... lemme check then 09:46:57 I am checking, I'm only slow :) 09:48:20 maxlen is 8 09:48:21 "Shapeless [genus]" can be long 09:49:13 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:49:48 invo titles can be long too 09:49:55 like "Luminary of Lethal Lore" 09:49:59 Prestidigitator 09:50:31 Genius of Arcana <3 09:50:33 123456789 the Level 13 Shapeless Draconian 09:50:48 character names of at most nine letters like this 09:52:26 but the titles involving genus aren't ideal anyway 09:52:27 Victor of a Thousand Battles is the longest non-composite one 09:53:00 oh, that is a mouthful 09:53:10 Demolition %s 09:53:25 same length as Distorting %s 09:54:54 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 09:56:03 for me, god *'s are more important than XL 09:56:12 but I wouldn't want to force that opinion on others 10:00:33 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 10:02:15 Pacra! 10:04:01 hi hi :] 10:04:43 does static discharge exist as a fog_generator? 10:04:44 :D 10:04:47 or similar 10:05:01 rkd: no, don't think so 10:10:27 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2681 10:10:34 :S 10:10:53 2 entry vaults for radiant caverns (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2681) by rkd 10:11:33 on to try 3 10:11:50 nice 10:12:15 rkd: do you also have radiant caverns themselves? 10:14:34 -!- casmith789 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:15:01 well no, yesterday I didnt even know how to make vaults :) 10:15:15 but I am moving over to trying to make a larger vault. so will try 10:16:21 go for it! 10:18:22 I have a sweet idea for the layout atleast :) 10:21:30 rkd: that's something. If you think you cannot push the envelope anymore, call for help. 10:22:45 well the layout would be fairly simple and fitting to the theme. 10:22:50 http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/NGS/Shared/StaticFiles/animals/images/primary/mellers-chameleon.jpg 10:22:56 a chameleon 10:22:57 =) 10:23:27 ASCII art? 10:24:48 you would start at the tip of the tail, walk around in a circle for a bit untill you got to the thicker part of the tail. then get inside the body, then the legs would be secret rooms with some medium loot, and then the head would have the endloot/boss or whatever :p 10:26:28 before you start working, let me just say that I am allergic to ascii art 10:26:32 sorry :O 10:26:47 lol 10:27:49 well I'm still doing it! should go fairly quick just to put the 'x'es and dots down without doing any tags or so. for the lulz! 10:27:59 gonna go out with the dog now :) 10:29:29 ascii art tends to look messed up in either console or tiles 10:30:07 and, honestly, a pretty pattern's all you're ever going to need in crawl vaults :P 10:30:26 No valid disciplines with which to make a themed randart spellbook 10:30:28 wtf? 10:30:41 acquirement and god gifts 10:30:53 dpeg_, you've mentioned bailey cleanup---any vaults of mine that I should clean up? 10:31:05 Galehar: Sif can hand out special spellbooks, they come in two kinds: fixed level (any number between 1 and 9), or fixed theme (ie schools). 10:31:25 Zaba: well, I am looking through them, trying to normalise threat and loot 10:31:37