00:11:53 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:18:25 Blessed toe? Seriously? 00:18:25 Enne: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 00:43:30 -!- valrus_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:43:48 -!- valrus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:51:31 -!- flowsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:59:25 -!- valrus_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:43:51 -!- Pseudonut has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:54:21 -!- Pseudonut has joined ##crawl-dev 02:34:02 -!- Pseudonut has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:24:45 !lg reid t x=cv 03:24:46 115. [cv=0.7] reid the Backstabber (L19 SpEn), worshipper of Cheibriados, escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2010-08-12, with 1660248 points after 50229 turns and 4:43:52. 03:26:10 evening 03:26:22 I actually have time to play crawl tonight 03:26:54 due: yay 03:29:28 -!- Anym has joined ##crawl-dev 03:29:35 Spdk! 03:31:37 no dk, sadly 03:32:04 !lg . char=spdk xl=27 03:32:05 1. KiloByte the Shatterer (L27 SpDK), worshipper of The Shining One, blasted by a Fiend (blast of hellfire) in Pandemonium on 2010-01-11, with 671827 points after 199328 turns and 17:15:28. 03:32:15 and it was such a nice game, *sniff* 03:33:23 Yred -> TSO, beside its irony, is actually a kick-ass combo 03:33:26 well I'm oing SpNe -> DK 03:33:31 Yred -> TSO is great 03:33:40 !hs god=th eshining one 03:33:40 No games for due (god=th eshining one max=sc). 03:33:45 !hs god=the shining one 03:33:46 20. bookofjude the Orcish Porcupine (L27 HODK), worshipper of The Shining One, blasted by an Ice Fiend (bolt of cold) in the Abyss on 2009-08-17, with 506545 points after 120210 turns and 9:12:06. 03:34:56 Yred is great early game, utterly sucks later on. And trains Invo quite well. TSO is utterly unbalanced for all-runers and has costly invocations so early training is not nice. 03:35:49 not to mention holy scourge + buckler, when all other spriggan one-handers get 8 damage max, with 1.5-handed shield penalties 03:38:05 I can try SpPr, but starting with the bad weapon is not good for acquirement, and it's hard to get a demon whip otherwise 03:44:56 due: you're doing a Ne of TSO? 03:49:07 casmith789: no 03:49:21 casmith789: I'm treading tihs nelike a dk though. 03:49:28 ah 04:08:02 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 04:20:20 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:20:47 -!- OG17 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:25:25 -!- Nexos has joined ##crawl-dev 04:25:49 Zin is angry when I enslave an already enslaved rat... enslavement is not really harmful => bug? 04:28:31 Nexos: uhm, say that again: "enslavement is not really harmful" 04:28:59 if I put you in chains, magical or not, and tell you to do my bidding or suffer, will you love me? 04:29:08 well you don't hurt the monster directly, and on initial enslavement, Zin is not angry 04:29:18 so it's a bit inconsistent IMO 04:30:07 Zin is not angry if you hit _hostiles_ with an axe, either. 04:32:27 hmm... debatable... it's already enslaved, so further enslavement could maybe have no effect? 04:32:48 or does it increase the enslavement duration? 04:33:54 considering that to be trying to extend enslavement makes sense, right 05:02:13 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 05:11:21 -!- Anym has quit [Disconnected by services] 05:11:27 -!- Anym has joined ##crawl-dev 05:16:30 -!- eith has quit [] 05:20:13 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 05:24:46 -!- OG17 has joined ##crawl-dev 05:36:51 -!- Ekaterin has joined ##crawl-dev 05:46:53 -!- Giomancer has joined ##crawl-dev 05:46:54 -!- ortoslon has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:48:11 -!- Giomancer has quit [Client Quit] 06:55:54 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 06:56:21 -!- flowsnake has joined ##crawl-dev 06:56:23 TILES: Holyhaul - - Apis, Cherub, Holy Dragon, Ophan & Paladin (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2269) by coolio 07:09:59 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 07:18:55 -!- Anym has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716]] 08:59:05 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 09:27:13 Autoexplore/travel do not work in Slime when worshipping Jiyva (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2270) by MarvintheParanoidAndroid 09:37:26 -!- Ekaterin has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:52:19 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:56:12 -!- minced has joined ##crawl-dev 09:56:47 Something is wrong. My centaur *gains* two points of SH when he removes his +6 dexterity ring. (he's using a buckler) 09:57:11 do you lose it when you put it back on 09:57:16 syllogism: yes 09:57:42 I'm playing with username m1nced on CAO 09:58:35 can you show your skills 09:58:56 ok 09:59:55 can't seem to be able to reproduce it in master 10:00:34 Should I save my game and let one of you guys get the savefile from CAO? 10:01:21 probably not, what else are you wearing? 10:01:36 centaur barding 10:01:48 full set of other armour including intelligence helm 10:02:03 oh there we go 10:02:04 inventory screen is up 10:02:29 reproducable with the barding, just report it 10:02:42 thanks 10:04:16 oh wait 10:04:35 ? 10:04:54 put the ring on, press i and see if it updates your blocking 10:05:10 yes, it does. 10:05:26 so it's not actually reducing your blocking, just not updating it properly 10:06:13 so how should I report the error? "SH, EV not redrawn properly for barded centaur upon removing ring"? 10:06:25 I don't think the barding was necessary after all :P 10:06:47 oh 10:07:19 ev seems to be redrawn, just not sh 10:08:18 if it's just a missing redraw, I can fix it quickly 10:09:40 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 10:12:30 though this doesn't explain to me why you'd gain points 10:12:43 03by * r4a6535a11573 10/crawl-ref/source/player-stats.cc: Fix missing shield stat update on dexterity change. (minced) 10:13:29 by: of? 10:13:57 his SH was reducing when his dex increased 10:14:57 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 10:15:18 by: he removes the ring, it doesn't get redrawn, then immediately puts it back on, it gets redrawn when the inventory is opened (P) 10:16:14 syllogism: but then the shield stat display should not change at all? 10:16:31 it gets redrawn before the ring is put on 10:16:32 but not after 10:16:50 ah 10:18:34 -!- ortoslon has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:18:57 I just got the abyssal rune, two enchant weapon scrolls, and a carnivore mutation from the abyss. 10:19:01 That's... not so bad. 10:19:12 oh wrong channel sorry 10:19:55 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 10:29:56 -!- minced has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:43:46 03j-p-e-g * rc576ceaa99ce 10/crawl-ref/source/ (ouch.cc spells4.cc): Explicitly say which inventory items are getting destroyed. 11:43:48 03j-p-e-g * r682a605634bb 10/crawl-ref/source/ (item_use.cc itemprop.cc): When enchanting an unknown piece of armour, mark it as uncursed. 11:43:51 03j-p-e-g * r35322e068577 10/crawl-ref/source/menu.cc: Make the . drop/pickup selector respect quantity input. 11:53:02 Report dancing weapon enchantment/ego in death messages (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2271) by Nexos 12:08:07 Into sewers, out of sewers, sewers still available. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2273) by sluggo 12:08:07 Don't ask which spell the player wants to cast when (s)he can't (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2272) by minmay 12:17:11 -!- Pseudonut has joined ##crawl-dev 12:27:38 -!- Sequell has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:30:33 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 12:33:15 Passwall can be cast on nothing (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2274) by MarvintheParanoidAndroid 12:43:11 -!- Sequell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:43:30 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 12:43:33 -!- Henzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:44:09 -!- Henzell has joined ##crawl-dev 12:59:40 -!- ortoslon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:06:51 03j-p-e-g 07stone_soup-0.7 * r42bd6e92ac23 10/crawl-ref/source/hints.cc: Get rid of the Backspace misinformation in the Hints mode selection. 13:11:46 03j-p-e-g * r9b02521feb81 10/crawl-ref/source/hints.cc: Get rid of the Backspace misinformation in the Hints mode selection. 13:14:31 -!- Pseudonut has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:30:19 -!- Nexos has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:33:45 -!- Pseudonut has joined ##crawl-dev 13:34:22 -!- EroN1 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:36:10 -!- purge has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:43:01 -!- purge has joined ##crawl-dev 13:57:24 purge! 13:57:43 greensnark: !ttyrec tends to bring down sequell it seems 13:57:53 Oh 13:57:58 !ttyrec 13:57:58 476. greensnark, XL2 GhFE, T:1088: http://crawl.develz.org/ttyrecs/greensnark/2010-08-01.17:14:38.ttyrec.bz2 13:58:04 What command did you use? 13:58:18 !ttyrec * id=754827 13:59:02 Greensnark! 13:59:05 :D 13:59:19 purge: Royal Jelly is the coolest banner image :) 14:00:09 Thanks! Personally I like my Lord of Darkness better, but maybe I just like the whole "goth" feel of it :) 14:00:28 !lg 14:00:40 doy: I think Sequell is just wedged trying to get a directory listing from cao :P 14:01:01 heh 14:01:01 cao really hates being asked for big dir listings when load average > 5 :P 14:01:19 476. greensnark the Sneak (L2 GhFE), slain by a hobgoblin (a +0,+0 club) on D:1 on 2010-08-01, with 81 points after 1088 turns and 0:05:39. 14:01:28 Um 14:01:39 It should have responded to you though :P 14:01:46 oh, yeah, it did that sometimes too 14:01:55 Ah: Could not fetch directory listing from http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/TGW/ 14:02:01 sometimes it ignores - ah, that would do it 14:02:03 It's not reporting the error correctly 14:02:17 The funny part is that if you asked me to make the Royal Jelly banner again, I would not be able to replicate it! I was learning Gimp the whole time I was making them and it was just hours of trial and undo 14:02:21 sometimes it just can't do it at all, other times it's just slow enough to make it ping out 14:02:43 I don't know why the cao apache struggles so much to do a dir listing 14:02:52 Does it assemble the entire page in a buffer before sending it down? 14:03:01 No idea how apache handles dir listings 14:03:03 that would be pretty dumb 14:03:16 i don't think so though 14:03:17 Yeah, I'd assume apache is smart enough to strea mit 14:03:29 it looks streaming whenever i view it in firefox anyway 14:03:47 might just be disk access issues? 14:04:21 For FooTV I actually wrote a small daemon just to feed FooTV directory listings 14:04:35 heh 14:04:37 So getting back the listing is fast; requesting the dirlisting from Apache = killer 14:04:55 weird 14:05:12 oh, maybe it's doing mime magic stuff on every file 14:05:24 to pick the right image to associate with it 14:05:30 or something like that 14:05:48 Wow 14:05:52 That would be really dumb :) 14:05:59 it would be(: 14:06:08 don't actually know if it's true, but it would explain things 14:15:19 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 14:29:52 -!- Cryp71c is now known as Cryp71c_awa 14:29:55 -!- Cryp71c_awa is now known as Cryp71c_away 14:31:15 -!- Sequell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:31:27 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 14:33:51 -!- Pseudonut has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:40:27 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:44:27 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 14:44:49 03j-p-e-g * rbccb472ca6a7 10/crawl-ref/source/player.cc: Fix #2188: AutoID'd "clarity doesn't id item type. 14:48:43 -!- EroN1 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:56:18 -!- totalg33k has joined ##crawl-dev 14:56:56 im trying to add a brand to a weapon at character creation, can someone help? i dont understand how to code it.. im at or below novice coding.. 14:58:10 -!- Nexos has joined ##crawl-dev 14:58:37 anyway, the line so far is: newgame_give_item(OBJ_WEAPONS, SPWPN_SPEED=WPN_KATANA); 15:00:48 -!- casmith789 has left ##crawl-dev 15:01:27 -!- totalg33k has left ##crawl-dev 15:04:15 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:22:17 -!- casmith789 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:25:53 -!- EroN1 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:41:20 -!- nrook has joined ##crawl-dev 15:49:27 -!- Pseudonut has joined ##crawl-dev 15:54:36 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 15:56:19 -!- Moriasc has joined ##crawl-dev 16:08:40 -!- Vandal has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:13:09 -!- valrus is now known as valrus-away 16:13:41 -!- valrus-away has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:16:04 -!- Vandal has joined ##crawl-dev 17:19:45 -!- valrus-away has joined ##crawl-dev 17:28:52 -!- valrus-away is now known as valrus 17:52:55 I would gladly accept a change to the game where there's 1/2 the normal spawn rate for potions/scrolls but they no longer can be destroyed 17:53:14 >:-| 17:53:43 what an annoying mechanic 17:54:40 how about one where all scrolls of enchant armour or weapon II spawn at 1/2 and acid doesn't damage equipment 17:55:18 I find item destruction way more annoying 17:55:37 although I did lose 15 AC going through zot once 17:56:28 Jeff got the Lemuel acid trip vault 17:56:38 Last year's tourney in Zot 17:56:52 All three downstairs in one fort defender by about 3000 yellow dracs + oklobs :P 17:57:00 -!- EroN1 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:57:03 His comments on the situation were practically poetry 17:57:38 making something like that is clearly just trying to piss people off 17:57:44 there's no other reason 17:58:47 ??lemuel[3] 17:58:47 lemuel[3/4]: "My mission is to annoy." 17:58:56 <:-( 17:59:21 !vault lemuel_acid_trip 17:59:25 Lines pasted to http://paste.scsys.co.uk/48133 17:59:49 Oh right, it also has acid blobs 18:00:06 that's probably almost impossible to get past without resistance 18:00:22 probably isn't that bad with DMsl 18:00:41 or invisibility would help also 18:01:54 Easiest way through: invis and read teleport just before going down the stairs. 18:02:06 to me, item destruction and armor corrosion is like maprot 18:02:08 -!- Moriasc_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:02:14 doesn't really do anything except annoy the shit out of you 18:02:39 item destruction makes choosing what to carry with you more interesting 18:02:48 Item destruction is interesting, yeah 18:02:54 without it, weight would be the only consideration 18:03:09 I don't carry items any differently because of item destruction 18:03:13 armour corrosion is definitely less interesting though 18:03:18 I just end up dropping enchant and recharge scrolls everywhere 18:03:30 and then having to run around like a headless chicken before zot to pick them up again 18:03:33 I rarely pick them up in the first place 18:04:00 I drop enchant scrolls and cure mut potions as soon as I find them, yeah 18:04:11 recharging I'll carry around if it might be useful 18:04:58 item destruction does mean that I carry around fewer potions of speed and scrolls of blinking though 18:05:03 if you get items destroyed and have 8 heal wounds instead of 10, it doesn't matter 18:05:05 it's just annoying 18:05:14 -!- Moriasc has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:05:18 it matters if you have 0 instead of 3 though 18:05:21 I would always just carry around all of my potions of speed and scrolls of blinking without item destruction 18:05:24 no thought about it 18:05:45 when was there no item destruction 18:05:50 certainly before stone soup 18:06:33 -!- Moriasc has joined ##crawl-dev 18:07:17 but what's why I said, make potions and scrolls half as common as they are 18:07:21 and remove destruction 18:07:32 what elliptic said still applies 18:07:47 and then I carry around all three of my blinking scrolls all the time 18:08:17 well, I guess the difference is that I do that anyway 18:08:26 I would rather carry two and lose one, then carry 1 and lose it and die 18:08:49 I carry 1 and go get another one if I use it or lose it 18:08:57 carrying 2 means you lose twice as many to destruction 18:09:35 -!- Moriasc_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:13:04 I've got the acid vault before in zot, but my armour was mostly randart etc so it didn't matter 18:19:43 -!- Nexos has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:36:45 -!- ogaz has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:42:51 no item destruction is boring 18:43:06 it should exist to some degree 18:43:11 i think we have too much of it though 18:43:51 especially as item destruction can be micromanaged to not be as effective 18:44:09 damage can be micromanaged to be not as effective d: 18:44:19 but I meant with potions & mummies 18:44:26 or with mottled dragons & scrolls 18:44:31 well, yes, potions and mummies are a special case 18:44:43 but mottled dragons and scrolls i don't think are a problem 18:44:52 no it isn't a problem 18:44:57 not complaining 18:45:14 well, i mean, i think they are fundamentally different issues 18:45:37 the reason that the mummy thing is dumb is because mummies are slow and weak, and the effect only takes place when you kill them 18:46:04 so there's no downside, even if a mummy surprises you, to sit there next to it and drop all of your potions before killing it 18:46:26 i do that 18:46:33 me too 18:46:40 and it's dumb 18:46:57 yeah I do it and it is a bit pointless 18:47:17 only place it matters really are a couple of the cramped ossuaries or if menkaure surprises you 18:47:31 but ossuaries I drop nearly all my potions anyway 18:47:35 yeah 18:47:36 before going in 18:47:53 or if you forget 18:48:10 true 19:09:59 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:10:22 flayed ghost (and other undead?) do not know they are already dead (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2275) by daftfad 19:11:10 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 20:10:15 -!- Mu_ has quit [Quit: Defecator, may everything turn out okay so that you can leave this place.] 20:23:04 -!- syllogism has quit [] 20:44:23 wayne after mighting himself is brutal 20:44:33 did like 60+ damage in 1 hit 20:45:51 Jiyva mechanics do not make sense. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2276) by Slyboots 20:47:37 yeah, I got killed by not expecting to take 68 damage from him 20:48:03 not to mention he also has haste 20:54:37 it does take wayne two turns to might and haste though 20:54:42 and before then he is pretty weak 20:55:16 where by two turns, I mean two turns in which he actually does so rather than something useless 20:55:48 I'm not saying he's hard to kill, just that I wasn't expecting 60 damage 20:56:29 yeah, monster might is handled differently from player might for some reason 21:02:07 he's also only speed 7 21:02:15 so he's not that dangerous if you know what to expect 21:02:29 yeah, you are still faster if you haste 21:04:09 oh didn't even notice he was speed 7 21:04:10 weird 21:04:55 personally I would rather wayne be more true to the MDFi of oka he is supposed to be 21:05:06 speed 10 and might working like player might 21:05:24 rather than +50% damage 21:07:48 and AC 50 21:08:03 well, more than AC 1 at least 21:09:17 I was pretty afraid to might against Mara 21:10:49 my strategy with mara is always to kill mara as quickly as possible and then get out of there as quickly as possible 21:11:04 I've come close to dying to my illusion several times though 21:11:33 that's also my strategy (of course I just avoid him 75% of the time) 21:34:10 -!- Pseudonut has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:45:30 -!- Textmode has quit [Quit: Over the ages, man has been certain of a great many things. some of these things were even true.] 21:52:04 -!- Pseudonut has joined ##crawl-dev 22:05:09 -!- flowsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:06:41 -!- nrook has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 22:15:00 -!- pointless_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:22:13 -!- Unexpected has joined ##crawl-dev 22:28:16 AC50? he's a fighter in heavy armour not a bush 22:34:46 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:50:14 -!- Unexpected has quit [Quit: boring stuff] 22:51:13 -!- Unexpected has joined ##crawl-dev 23:22:05 -!- pointless_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.7/20100713130626]] 23:42:12 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]