00:00:05 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:04:12 03Cryp71c 07stone_soup-0.7 * r233f956eb231 10/crawl-ref/source/fight.cc: Correct spine logic 00:19:03 Enne 00:19:10 Came up with a side gate 00:19:18 !!! 00:22:18 i'll show you what i have so far 00:24:37 <3! 00:27:38 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 00:34:31 sup due 00:34:40 here's what i am working on right now 00:36:59 DCC is bad 00:36:59 :( 00:37:06 Email might work better? 00:42:04 what is your email? 00:42:10 bookofjude@gmail.com 00:43:20 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:44:33 sent 00:49:54 Poor_Yurik: Hm, I like it, might be slightly too sci-fi-y and less medival-y?I'm unsure. 00:49:57 Enne? 00:49:59 yeah 00:50:03 enne though so too 00:50:11 i'm going to put a whole bunch more work into it 00:50:16 i may just totally redo it 00:50:32 I really like the idea, actually. 00:51:30 i have to sell it as something medievally 00:51:51 so i'll probably have to put in chains in the places where it slides 00:51:57 stuff like that. 00:52:25 How does it work with gates wider than thre tiles? 00:52:42 there are gates wider than 3 tiles? fffuuuuck. 00:53:01 well i'll see what i can do. 00:53:20 it works fine as it is now as a 3x or a 2x 00:54:07 Yeah. 00:54:18 Gates areany door wider than one tile. :) 00:54:50 good to know, thank you. 01:28:48 -!- TGWi has joined ##crawl-dev 01:33:15 -!- Fangorn has joined ##crawl-dev 01:34:47 -!- TGWi has left ##crawl-dev 03:27:39 sif gifting in sprint is really excessive currently 03:28:32 are spellcasters at all viable? 03:28:59 what do you mean? 03:29:11 in sprint? I keep dying stupidly to things. 03:29:19 I suppose meph would be useful. 03:29:21 the main problem with spellcasters is the ogre, ime 03:29:39 !lg . char=kevm s=xl 03:29:40 2 games for by (char=kevm): 2x 1 03:29:41 if you can get to meph or sticky or whatever, you're okay 03:29:51 my second kevm could have won 03:29:55 so yes, viable 03:30:03 !lg by Sprint kevm s=xl 03:30:04 15 games for by (kevm): 11x 1, 2x 2, 1x 12, 1x 4 03:30:16 ok, not quite :) 03:30:48 but still: between !berserk, !speed and !magic, ijyb and the ogre can be handled 03:31:56 how does kevm kill the jelly? 03:32:09 think I venom bolted it 03:32:21 Okay, I'm gonna try KeVM. 03:32:49 How did you get to venom bolt that quickly? 03:33:05 killing the first three sufficed apparently 03:35:36 Not for me, apparently. 03:35:41 Kenku too fragile. 03:36:10 Ijyb keeps getting invis or berserk! 03:36:51 rarely 03:37:55 Wand of flame, last time he had potion of berserk, time before that he had potion of invis and healing. 03:38:30 -!- dpeg_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:38:35 Dagger of flaming... 03:38:37 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 03:39:02 Hi folks 03:39:16 wand of magic darts... 03:39:29 dpeg_: hi 03:39:30 the RNG on CDO must be biased against me. 03:39:58 due: self deprecation martyr :P 03:40:38 dpeg_: Ijyb is literally killing me every turn when I try spellcasterson Sprintt. 03:41:43 due: what casters? 03:41:50 And Sprint 1? 03:41:52 !lg due sprint char=kevm s=killer 03:41:52 7 games for due (char=kevm): 6x Ijyb, 1x an ogre 03:42:03 !zerk is usually enough to handle ijyb 03:42:13 Okay, SpvM is better. 03:42:13 !lg due sprint char=kevm s=kaux 03:42:13 7 games for due (char=kevm): 2x wand of flame {zapped: 1}, 1x a +0,+0 dagger, 1x a +2,+3 dagger of flaming, 1x a cursed -3,+0 club, 1x a +0,+0 giant club, 1x a +0,+0 club 03:42:30 Doesn't note his invisibility/berserness. 03:43:24 Why do spriggans only get one potion of porridge for sprint, when trolls get two meat rations? 03:43:41 one porridge is plenty 03:44:50 @??elephant slug 03:44:50 elephant slug (15j) | Speed: 4 | HD: 20 | Health: 115-145 | AC/EV: 2/1 | Damage: 40 | Res: 06magic(80) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 09poisonous | XP: 462. 03:50:11 -!- ogaz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:55:50 03by * rb3103efd2c9f 10/crawl-ref/source/delay.cc: Fix extra turns for shift-run again. (#1405) 03:59:07 Moin guys! Any opinion on the new smaller gource videos? http://crawl.develz.org/other/ 04:00:01 I haven't watched them! I need to do so tonight. 04:11:11 watched the zoomed one just now -- quality and size seem good 04:11:30 that other visualization thing from some time ago seemed to convey more information, however 04:13:04 Napkin: you're quite into gource right now. didn't you like code_swarm or do you just have free time atm? 04:13:52 by: the big blob of files in source/ clutters up the view. for other repositories were the files are more evenly spread out into directories it works much better 04:13:57 code_warm is in version 0.1, a bit early to use it.. and gource was available easily 04:14:12 omg, he believes in version numbers! :) 04:14:38 the "zoomed" one has camera-mode "tracked", the non-zoomed has camera-mode "overview" 04:15:04 03kofrad * r699629076bf3 10/crawl-ref/source/spells3.cc: Don't allow teleport control when berserk. Bug #0001223 04:15:05 both have different advantages. let me know, which one you like better, rob, please? :) 04:15:48 I think the zoomed one is better as you see more clearly what goes on in the big source/ directory. 04:16:27 yes, probably 04:35:25 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:39:19 greensnark 04:39:26 Boo 04:40:14 i been workin on a new section of sprint_mu and there's a group of yaktaurs that make crawl crash all the time when you try and fight them 04:41:26 can you look @ why they're crashin :3 04:41:47 Does it run with the current 0.7 code 04:42:04 I haven't checked out the sprint git repo 04:43:09 KiloByte: Want to check out that crash? 04:43:28 by, greensnark: the Sprint team made up their mind (well, syllogism and I did): Chapayev's Sprint2 should go into trunk now, Mu's map is for the tournament. 04:43:37 i thought all the important sprint changes were in 0.7 04:43:50 dpeg_: Ok 04:44:02 Someone commit Chapayev's Sprint 2 to master 04:44:10 And I'll pull it into 0.7 04:44:22 Mu_: I don't have your map either :) 04:44:48 I'd like a fix for the Sprint gift problem, if someone has the time 04:44:54 Otherwise I'll check it out EOD today 04:45:19 should i send it to you 04:45:58 Mu_: Sure 04:46:13 scintilla@gmail.com 04:46:28 ok 04:47:25 -!- dpeg__ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:49:45 -!- ortoslon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:50:56 greensnark ok sent 04:51:40 Mu_: Got it, I'll take it for a spin 04:51:44 gl 04:52:20 -!- casmith789 has joined ##crawl-dev 04:58:29 Mu_: Ok, got the crash 04:59:19 Nice bug too :) 04:59:47 what's happenin 04:59:56 i'm sure i've had that bug a bunch of times before but never consistently 05:00:08 Arrays using the number of monster types as the max bound instead of the max number of monsters on level 05:01:11 -!- dpeg_ has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 05:01:29 how come the yaktaurs were doin it 05:02:00 Presumably they had indexes past the NUM_MONSTERS mark of ~510 05:02:23 You seem to be coasting close to monster limit :) 05:02:33 oh :p 05:02:48 Monster limit is 700, so <200 monsters of headroom :P 05:03:48 it's unlikely any more will be added 05:04:28 Should leave at least 50 monsters clear for summons and stuff, so looks pretty safe atm 05:07:36 03greensnark * rcb640d68b297 10/crawl-ref/source/godconduct.cc: Fix attack conduct midx arrays using NUM_MONSTERS as size instead of MAX_MONSTERS (Mu). 05:07:44 Woah, how many critters on the original Sprint? 05:11:10 03by 07stone_soup-0.7 * r8d142ab8b644 10/crawl-ref/source/delay.cc: Fix extra turns for shift-run again. (#1405) 05:11:12 03greensnark 07stone_soup-0.7 * r8d267aac1c94 10/crawl-ref/source/godconduct.cc: Fix attack conduct midx arrays using NUM_MONSTERS as size instead of MAX_MONSTERS (Mu). 05:11:13 03kofrad 07stone_soup-0.7 * r92981fc247df 10/crawl-ref/source/spells3.cc: Don't allow teleport control when berserk. Bug #0001223 05:16:06 03by * r6ca78d4c6115 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/sprint/sprint2.des: Chapayev's sprint 2. 05:17:30 Whoopee 05:17:41 by: You wouldn't happen to have a fix for the gift problem too? :) 05:17:56 not right now, no, haven't looked at it 05:18:02 Ok 05:21:49 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 05:27:39 -!- Fangorn has quit [Quit: Fangorn] 05:32:46 03by 07stone_soup-0.7 * ra19345ca2bed 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/sprint/sprint2.des: Chapayev's sprint 2. 05:33:17 greensnark ok how do i put that fix into sprintgit 05:33:46 Mu_: if it's in master, it should be in sprintgit already 05:33:52 oh sweet 05:41:00 chapayev's sprint is on cdo? 05:42:31 guess not 05:45:07 syllogism: canbe ina second 05:45:10 oh another 4.1ism made it into SS; no c.tele while berserk :P 05:45:19 okay, now it's on cdo 05:46:07 Oh fucking hell that's juts nasty. 05:46:34 Is that even possible to win? 05:46:57 yes, just open a different door :P 05:47:01 or did you just look at the map 05:49:33 giant snails, boulder beetles, brain worms and hippogrives? 05:49:34 brain worms are easy to berserk 05:49:34 and you can close the door on everything else 05:49:34 true 05:49:34 sometimes you get necrophages and you can zerk those too as some character types or luck 05:49:34 greensnark: you could just revert the smooth piety changes for 0.7 05:49:34 by: We can go back to old gifting behaviour by checking for nonzero pgn before the Sprint and faith scaling 05:49:34 But is the old gifting behaviour ok 05:49:34 better than the current, certainly 05:49:34 True 05:51:34 actually, is Sif piety scaled twice? 05:51:46 you get scaled XP and scaled piety gain 05:51:54 Scaled XP? 05:52:18 monsters have an xp multiplier, no? 05:52:45 You mean the 9x xp multiplier? 05:53:03 so, it's 9x xp gained -> 81x piety gained 05:53:06 wow, so much loot 05:53:49 Sorry, a bit distrait right now, +3 hours would be post-work 05:54:14 This map is hideously wicked. 05:54:16 ok (I'll be gone in a bit though) 05:58:45 LOL 06:00:09 maybe you shouldn't be allowed to start with a god in sprint. Trog makes everything too easy 06:00:15 delayed stat death makes no sense 06:00:19 or maybe you shouldnt be allowed to start with trog :P 06:00:59 casmith789 (L7 TrBe) ASSERT(!feat_is_solid(grd(pos())) || is_tracer && affects_wall(grd(pos())) || affects_nothing) in 'beam.cc' at line 1381 failed. (D (Sprint)) 06:01:03 ffff 06:01:22 it just crashed :( greensnark help me 06:02:04 this is probably related to 1d37fd6d 06:02:57 There's no warning about when you're going to die with delayed stat death. 06:03:02 And no indication that you arre *going* to die. 06:03:13 yes 06:07:38 03by * r89a77e278339 10/crawl-ref/source/ (spl-cast.cc sprint.cc sprint.h): Fix Sif piety inflation in sprint. 06:08:51 going now, bye-bye 06:10:37 -!- Moriasc has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.6/20100625231939]] 06:11:08 Oh woiw, the Ink for Chapayev's second sprint works so well for kraken 06:32:18 oh, stat death is still possible? 06:39:25 Napkin: yes, but it's delayed 06:39:35 so much better than before, it's similar to starvation now 06:39:43 ah 06:39:53 dpeg__: Messages aren't good enough, though. 06:41:09 yay there's quad damage for sale :P 06:41:50 due: probably 06:41:58 How much does it differ from starvation? 06:42:16 You just hqave a red stat, and no indication that you are about to die. 06:43:22 due: yes, I know, been there :) But does starving tell you that you'll die? 06:43:42 No, but you get messages saying "You are starving!". 06:44:55 ah, okay 06:58:26 BiA really needs to be nerfed in sprint, maybe just by increasing the piety cost 06:59:39 syllogism: do you think it's stronger than corruption or banishment or haste? 06:59:47 yes 07:00:40 not really 07:00:43 but the piety cost should go up 07:00:56 it's an excellent drop-and-run 07:01:05 you can spam it every encounter 07:01:22 really? 07:01:23 and it can handle anything 07:01:24 I should do that then 07:14:32 -!- purge has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:21:49 Kyrris (L1 DEEE) ASSERT(!feat_is_solid(grd(pos())) || is_tracer && affects_wall(grd(pos())) || affects_nothing) in 'beam.cc' at line 1381 failed. (D:1) 07:24:38 I thought that one had been resolved? 07:25:04 Crash on using macro to cast sandblast (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1929) by Kyrris 08:15:57 by: It would seem spl-cast.cc is lacking #include "sprint.h" 08:23:37 I wonder if the starting menu should have "Exit game" option :) 08:23:43 (yes) 08:25:46 03Keskitalo * r802a5ab06af7 10/crawl-ref/source/spl-cast.cc: Fix compilation. 08:25:57 03Keskitalo * r3eb863f7db24 10/crawl-ref/source/ (7 files in 4 dirs): Remove rods of discovery. 08:26:31 Rods of discovery are going? Cool. 08:27:34 Hmm, Iwonder if we'll see one other commit I thought I pushed earlier.. (hairy_minivault looekd bad in Vaults) 08:28:26 Keskitalo: I am not sure the "Exit" is worth spending one line... 08:31:00 dpeg__: It should be made clear how to exit the program cleanly. 08:31:40 yes, but perhaps not with a special line? 08:31:54 -!- Rollie has joined ##crawl-dev 08:32:12 -!- Rollie has left ##crawl-dev 08:32:37 it'd have to take up a line somewhere 08:33:58 "(Esc exits)" could be squeezed in somewhere... 08:35:26 Warn player of trying to cast prohibited spells (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1930) by username 08:35:26 it might be good if sprint piety gain rates could be on per god basis 08:36:16 syllogism: yes 08:38:04 Keskitalo: your commit happens to break save compat (in a minor way): some rods will be just shifted around, and rods of venom will crash 08:38:22 should I fix that? 08:38:51 Keskitalo: is re-adding rods of divination at a later stage (when we redo misc items) okay with you? 08:39:13 KiloByte: Ack, yes please, if it's not too much trouble. I haven't ever done any save compat stuff. Should've thought to check that somehow.. :| 08:39:46 dpeg__: Absolutely, I added the discussion from the mantis item to this wiki page: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:item:discovery 08:40:14 Keskitalo: thank you 08:40:14 hmm, it will mess with a secret project of mine, I'll just add placeholders 08:40:23 KiloByte: aha! :) 08:40:27 Ooh, secret projects. :) 08:45:27 how difficult is cross platform compiling, say OSX build in Windows environment 08:46:07 just append CROSSHOST=something when you invoke make 08:46:29 like, CROSSHOST=i586-mingw32msvc for a win32 build 08:53:27 beh, unmarshallItem doesn't pass the save version, and is called from a million places. I'll restore the rods (#ifdefed) but disable generation. 08:57:40 KiloByte: syllogism mentioned that quad damage can be randomly generated in shops 08:58:05 greensnark: uhh... now that's fun 08:58:06 There's also a global for minor version 08:58:13 So you don't have to pass it around 08:58:30 _tag_minor_version 08:58:32 greensnark: every level save has a separate version 08:59:03 so when you leave a rod at D:1, it won't be upgraded until you go back there 09:00:20 ah, the reader has it as well 09:00:32 syllogism: Building the OSX version is tricky because afaik there are no free cross-compilers targeting OSX 09:00:38 You have to build on MacOS 09:03:33 maybe I can get it working on vmware 09:08:41 There are vmware images floating around on the torrent sites, shouldn't be hard 09:08:50 yes 09:14:09 -!- Spads has joined ##crawl-dev 09:19:42 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 09:20:53 03Keskitalo * r19dc50898d60 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/mini_monsters.des: Disable hairy_minivault from Vault and Elf. 09:23:54 Well, there it is. :) 09:25:41 Chei should negate intentional hasting (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1931) by OG17 09:25:49 78291 (L8 MfCr) ASSERT(branches[branch].depth <= branches[BRANCH_MAIN_DUNGEON].depth) in 'godpassive.cc' at line 122 failed. (D (Sprint)) 09:26:19 !lg n78291 -log 09:26:20 6446. 78291, XL25 DDCj, T:95059: http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/78291/morgue-78291-20100709-025837.txt 09:26:24 !lg n78291 sprint -log 09:26:25 293. 78291, XL2 KoEn, T:268: http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/sprint/78291/morgue-78291-20100630-021011.txt 09:26:36 !lm n78291 sprint -log 09:26:36 397. 78291, XL8 MfCr, T:798 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/sprint/78291/crash-78291-20100709-142548.txt 09:27:43 jiyva offlevel item eating :P 09:34:45 03kilobyte * r8db15babd822 10/crawl-ref/source/ (tag-version.h tags.cc): Reserve two fields in the save for a side project. 09:34:46 03kilobyte * r01eda2f6622a 10/crawl-ref/source/ (tag-version.h tags.cc): Repair saves containing rods of discovery, demonology, striking or venom. 09:35:13 KiloByte: Can you disable jiyva_eat_offlevel_items for Sprint 09:35:44 Chei penance doesn't remove ponderous boosts (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1932) by OG17 09:38:42 03kilobyte * r4dc2f0816fe0 10/crawl-ref/source/godpassive.cc: Don't feed Jiyva off-level items in sprint. 09:39:24 Thanks 09:43:22 greensnark, morning, thanks for pushing those spine fixes over. 09:43:22 Sleece (L2 DSEE) ASSERT(!feat_is_solid(grd(pos())) || is_tracer && affects_wall(grd(pos())) || affects_nothing) in 'beam.cc' at line 1381 failed. (D:1) 09:45:46 -!- syllogism has quit [] 09:45:55 03kilobyte * rb1033a523ad0 10/crawl-ref/source/makeitem.cc: Don't generate quads normally... 09:45:56 b1033a52 is definitely for 0.7 09:48:01 Yes 09:48:08 !lm Sleece type=crash -log 09:48:08 5. Sleece, XL2 DSEE, T:1252 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/Sleece/crash-Sleece-20100709-144322.txt 09:49:05 !lm Sleece type=crash -tv 09:49:05 5. Sleece, XL2 DSEE, T:1252 (milestone) requested for FooTV. 09:52:12 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 09:53:47 bolthar (L3 HuFi) ASSERT(!feat_is_solid(grd(pos())) || is_tracer && affects_wall(grd(pos())) || affects_nothing) in 'beam.cc' at line 1381 failed. (D (Sprint)) 10:07:46 78291 (L7 TrCr) ASSERT(!feat_is_solid(grd(pos())) || is_tracer && affects_wall(grd(pos())) || affects_nothing) in 'beam.cc' at line 1381 failed. (D (Sprint)) 10:08:04 !lm !78291 sprint -log 10:08:04 smiley, XL7 SpEn, T:391 (milestone) has no matching game. 10:08:12 !lm @78291 sprint -log 10:08:13 364. 78291, XL7 TrCr, T:534 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/sprint/78291/crash-78291-20100709-150745.txt 10:08:36 Mmm 10:09:45 hmm, I've hardware virtualization enabled in bios and it claims it isn't when I attempt to boot leopard 10:12:18 03greensnark * r3dfcf308bf17 10/crawl-ref/source/beam.cc: BEAM_FRAG affects walls only for Lee's, not for Sandblast and metal splinters. Fixes crash. 10:13:06 Although Lee's is totally not working as I'd expect in master 10:13:17 There's no explosion unless the wall is destroyed 10:13:44 sanka (L15 SpEn) ASSERT(!feat_is_solid(grd(pos())) || is_tracer && affects_wall(grd(pos())) || affects_nothing) in 'beam.cc' at line 1381 failed. (Swamp:1) 10:13:55 !lm sanka -log 10:13:56 1115. sanka, XL15 SpEn, T:46632 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/sanka/crash-sanka-20100709-151344.txt 10:14:37 Ok, so that failure mode is not the same as the Sandblast crash 10:15:53 !lm sanka -tv 10:15:53 1115. sanka, XL15 SpEn, T:46632 (milestone) requested for FooTV. 10:16:29 Mmm 10:16:33 !lm sanka --ttyrec 10:16:33 Malformed argument: --ttyrec 10:16:35 !lm sanka -ttyrec 10:16:36 1115. sanka, XL15 SpEn, T:46632 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/ttyrecs/sanka/2010-07-09.14:17:48.ttyrec 10:16:53 Intel Processor ID tool even says it's enabled, oh well 10:17:19 em64t? 10:17:40 Does the VM not run without it? 10:18:13 reid (L7 SpEn) ASSERT(!feat_is_solid(grd(pos())) || is_tracer && affects_wall(grd(pos())) || affects_nothing) in 'beam.cc' at line 1381 failed. (D (Sprint)) 10:18:26 !lm reid sprint -log 10:18:27 222. reid, XL7 SpEn, T:165 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/sprint/reid/crash-reid-20100709-151813.txt 10:18:35 vmware does work, it just says it can't run OSX with software virtualization 10:19:11 interestingly this MS tool says it is NOT enabled 10:19:25 sanka (L15 SpEn) ASSERT(!feat_is_solid(grd(pos())) || is_tracer && affects_wall(grd(pos())) || affects_nothing) in 'beam.cc' at line 1381 failed. (Swamp:1) 10:20:00 I've used VT after enabling it in BIOS 10:20:12 But I haven't tried VMware with a Windows host 10:20:30 sanka is sleeping with the eels tonight 10:21:29 < M-Kaibigan> Can a plant kill me in D:2? ;- ; 10:21:36 I run my ubuntu on suns virtualbox 10:21:44 < M-Kaibigan> The tutorial says it's usually from a deeper level and I should run away 'n' 10:22:43 heh 10:23:10 greensnark, Spiny is looking good, at least on early levels and monsters. 10:23:19 unless he's talking about an oklob plant, then hehehe 10:23:21 snakes and bats regularly doge it, Ogre's occasionally dodge it, etc. 10:23:34 dodge* 10:24:27 BirdoPrey (L7 TrBe) ASSERT(!feat_is_solid(grd(pos())) || is_tracer && affects_wall(grd(pos())) || affects_nothing) in 'beam.cc' at line 1381 failed. (D (Sprint)) 10:26:38 That crash is really expressing itself 10:27:26 Sprint really suffers from crashes 10:44:43 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 10:45:23 Going to test the current Sprint 10:48:43 sprint is cool 10:49:04 yes 10:50:38 I need to actually try that out... 10:52:03 Does CDO already have Sprint 2? 10:52:11 yep 10:52:17 awesome :) 10:52:18 Siber: ^ 10:58:05 sanka (L16 SpEn) ASSERT(!feat_is_solid(grd(pos())) || is_tracer && affects_wall(grd(pos())) || affects_nothing) in 'beam.cc' at line 1381 failed. (Swamp:5) 11:02:43 sanka (L16 SpEn) ASSERT(!feat_is_solid(grd(pos())) || is_tracer && affects_wall(grd(pos())) || affects_nothing) in 'beam.cc' at line 1381 failed. (Swamp:5) 11:02:50 Good old sanka 11:02:55 Must be getting a little fed up :P 11:02:58 !lm sanka -log 11:02:59 1124. sanka, XL16 SpEn, T:52461 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/sanka/crash-sanka-20100709-160242.txt 11:04:53 -!- syllogism has quit [] 11:09:49 03greensnark * r487faad4d5ae 10/crawl-ref/source/beam.cc: Partly revert "Fix beams not reaching some targets within range. (#1926)". 11:18:11 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:28:49 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 11:30:42 dpeg__, yar 11:30:53 dpeg__, you're wierd-name is messing with my tab-cycling again! 11:31:07 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 11:31:41 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 11:35:35 03greensnark * rb380bfe67f17 10/crawl-ref/source/ (skills.cc spl-cast.cc sprint.cc sprint.h): Fix Sif Muna piety gain still being 3x more than intended in Sprint. 11:38:17 So Sprint had 27*9=243x normal Sif piety gain instead of the Sprint standard 9x 11:39:16 wow 11:39:25 cool :) 11:45:57 03greensnark * r2f8cee484e33 10/crawl-ref/source/beam.cc: Revert "BEAM_FRAG affects walls only for Lee's, not for Sandblast and metal splinters. Fixes crash." 11:47:36 Cruella (L15 DSAs) ASSERT(!feat_is_solid(grd(pos())) || is_tracer && affects_wall(grd(pos())) || affects_nothing) in 'beam.cc' at line 1381 failed. (Swamp:4) 11:47:40 03by 07stone_soup-0.7 * rf76287cf8e1a 10/crawl-ref/source/ (spl-cast.cc sprint.cc sprint.h): Fix Sif piety inflation in sprint. 11:47:43 03Keskitalo 07stone_soup-0.7 * r69b799bca9b4 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/mini_monsters.des: Disable hairy_minivault from Vault and Elf. 11:47:45 03kilobyte 07stone_soup-0.7 * r5352698cd436 10/crawl-ref/source/godpassive.cc: Don't feed Jiyva off-level items in sprint. 11:47:46 03kilobyte 07stone_soup-0.7 * r99a9f57f1f77 10/crawl-ref/source/makeitem.cc: Don't generate quads normally... 11:47:50 03greensnark 07stone_soup-0.7 * rf0226f86d160 10/crawl-ref/source/beam.cc: Partly revert "Fix beams not reaching some targets within range. (#1926)". 11:48:01 03greensnark 07stone_soup-0.7 * rf58f16621a73 10/crawl-ref/source/ (skills.cc spl-cast.cc sprint.cc sprint.h): Fix Sif Muna piety gain still being 3x more than intended in Sprint. 11:51:17 KiloByte: I think quads in shops are okay, as long as they're expensive enough. For example, the price of disks of air would do :) 11:52:33 If it's Sprint only 11:53:21 dpeg__, wanted to mention (for the .8 line, at least) the idea of giving claws some reasonable performance at stabbing. 11:53:42 Cryp71c: okay 11:54:09 greensnark: I don't like separating sprint and crawl content so much... Don't see why quads would be out of place in Crawl. 11:54:19 Quad damage is too powerful 11:55:01 Don't forget it stacks with other buffs 11:55:23 It's ok for Sprint, because I don't take Sprint seriously 11:55:28 Is it actually 4x or 3x? 11:56:10 greensnark: hm 11:56:30 it could also make monsters do quad damage :P 11:56:43 Cryp71c: isn't unarmed combat way too good already, and required for way too many builds? Like, it's a terrible idea to even bother with Tm without unarmed. 11:57:12 syllogism: No thanks, powergaming spiral :P 11:58:06 why is it even in sprint :/ 11:58:18 it's amusing 11:59:15 unarmed is not very good in my opinion 11:59:33 it's ridiculously good 11:59:40 only late 11:59:44 no 11:59:50 KiloByte, IDK about way too good..claws do lots of damage at level 3 with high UC and high fighting skill, but its counterintuitive that claws (which are much higher precision than any other weapon in the game, arguably) would be so ineffective at stabbing (which are nothing more than high precision sneak attacks) 12:00:02 Unarmed is only impressive early on if you have claws. 12:00:09 it's even more powerful midgame 12:00:09 Other than that, its mediocre at best until you're at 15+ skill 12:00:34 I still think unarmed is less powerful than single weapon + shield 12:00:41 Oh, defienitely 12:00:58 Especially when you factor in the extended endgame near-certainty that at least one of those shield/weapon would be a randart 12:01:00 definitely* 12:01:16 oh nope, I hardly ever get randart stuff for that 12:01:41 really? I've never played an extended endgame that didn't have at least a randart weapon or a randart shield..and about 1/2 the time, I've had randarts for both. 12:02:42 I normally use god equipment, so TSO +9 Blessed blade or kiku +9 demon blade of pain (although less extended endgame for this one) 12:03:45 -!- eith has quit [] 12:04:08 if we could have Tm not rely on unarmed and unarmed only, it would give players more choice at least where this school is concerned. It makes zero sense to fight better with teeth just because you know how to use human fists. 12:05:00 Tm rely only on unarmed, sure, but most classes it makes more sense to use a weapon 12:05:25 KiloByte: Thanks for the saves repair re:rods. 12:05:39 KiloByte, IDK..I think of unarmed combat to be more like street-fighting, where you're using everything you can, rather than - say - boxing. 12:05:43 casmith789: beh, I once milked Okawaru+Lugonu for ages to get a quickblade of distortion, and then still ended up using some random +4 sabre (holy, rC++) instead 12:05:50 :) 12:06:05 well yes, I use randarts about half the time 12:06:16 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 12:07:28 debug mode doesn't report damage correctly with Quad 12:07:43 twoshotted cerebov with crystal spear though 12:07:50 03greensnark * rac4e5ffc5919 10/crawl-ref/source/hiscores.cc: Fix "Escaped with the Orb!." in game end screen and logfile. 12:08:04 KiloByte: Tm is surely too onesided... before any UC boosts, that has to be addressed first. No question. 12:08:23 I don't think clawed stabbing needs a boost 12:08:47 greensnark: is that meant to work in queries? 12:08:57 ? 12:09:06 !lg * won sprint 12:09:07 61. reid the Backstabber (L11 SpEn), worshipper of Lugonu, escaped with the Orb!. on 2010-07-09, with 267925 points after 1787 turns and 0:05:10. 12:09:11 still got the !. 12:09:18 Oh, that's already in the db 12:09:24 ah okay 12:09:38 I'd need to get the bots to scrub that on output, but I wanted to fix the game printing that garbage first 12:10:09 Interesting note: being hit by a reflected arrow distracts monsters. 12:10:55 greensnark, it doesn't have anything atm. stabbing with unarmed is like stabbing with flails or with a banana 12:11:05 That's fine with me 12:11:31