00:36:36 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 00:54:27 -!- Moriasc has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:58:49 -!- purge has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:01:40 -!- Blitz82 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:02:56 -!- purge has joined ##crawl-dev 01:03:12 -!- Madtrixr has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:03:12 -!- Blitz82 is now known as Madtrixr 01:20:55 03greensnark * r2756694d7f9e 10/crawl-ref/source/ (16 files in 2 dirs): Implement chaos-brand melee effects for being engulfed in CLOUD_CHAOS (Mu). 01:35:17 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 01:44:09 -!- ortoslon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:11:42 greensnark: Aargh, that's gonna be a fun merge for holy flames 02:25:54 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 02:37:12 Always happy to supply fun merges! 02:39:20 * due beats greensnark witha banana. 03:28:10 -!- paxed has quit [*.net *.split] 03:28:17 -!- paxed has joined ##crawl-dev 03:55:58 -!- ogaz has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:21:45 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:24:37 -!- ortoslon1 has joined ##crawl-dev 04:24:37 -!- ortoslon has quit [Disconnected by services] 04:24:41 -!- ortoslon1 is now known as ortoslon 04:34:08 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 04:34:39 hi gepd 04:35:41 greensnark: seething chaos \o/ 04:36:07 Hi ued! 04:36:23 :) 04:36:36 I'm like a co-ed only with less co and more u. 05:05:26 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 05:34:56 dpeg: The circle for the kobold demonologist & the invisible demons is a great idea! 05:43:15 Boo, no chaos arena yet in FightClub. 05:43:16 Keskitalo: thank you! 05:43:16 -!- Ashenzari has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:44:25 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 05:44:25 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS development channel! | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Ashenzari source: http://github.com/doy/crawlbot | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please. 05:48:37 greensnark: I am mostly around, but may be temporarily absent, with all the kids & kitchen duties. Just speak up, okay? 05:52:51 * due eats dpeg. 05:52:52 greensnark: Sorry, he's all gone now. 05:52:52 due: oh? 05:52:52 Work? 05:52:52 ohm ,e 05:52:52 -!- dpeg is now known as dpevoured 05:53:22 ok, later 05:54:26 :) 05:55:02 Hm, git stash is hella slow tonight. This is odd. 05:55:06 Do I need to repack or something? 05:58:05 repack can't help for anything that happened out of a sudden 05:58:41 it deals with slow accumulation of cruft over a long time 05:59:05 but, the first git operation that deals with files not in memory will always be slow 05:59:22 no matter if it's "git stash", "git commit -a" or "git status" 06:05:49 also, "git gc" does repacking and a number of other tasks when it feels it would be a good idea, "git gc --aggressive" to force a full repack 06:18:48 excellent, thanks 06:20:32 Why am I alphabetising #includes? 06:23:41 Hmm, I get the PbD when in full health, but not while wounded it seems.. 06:23:44 Keskitalo: Have you had a chance to play my Lair:$ maps? 06:23:51 Haven't reached one yet. :) 06:23:57 Me neither. :) 06:24:52 Had one of my HuSu's going, but wasn't careful enough.. kobold with blowgun, and I had ran out of healing potions, didn't realize that until it was too late. 06:25:07 due: if they're in order, it's easier to check if one is already included 06:25:15 Well, that was only pre-Lair. Now started a DSFi to see if it feels different (Heavy armour I mean) 06:27:32 Looks like PbD is displaying right now.. 06:29:08 -!- Mu_ has quit [Quit: Defecator, may everything turn out okay so that you can leave this place.] 06:29:17 !fight 20 rat v 20 rat arena:chaos t:99 delay:50 06:29:38 Yay crash 06:29:38 KiloByte: Well, this is very true. 06:29:45 greensnark: Yay crash! 06:34:47 -!- Moriasc has joined ##crawl-dev 06:35:03 yo Moriasc 06:35:21 'sup due =D 06:35:30 is there something that could possibly move a trap around? Other than abyss shifts? 06:35:48 03greensnark * r2f5bafd12168 10/crawl-ref/source/dungeon.cc: Fix crash when starting a new arena round if the arena map uses map markers and dungeon events. 06:36:07 BTW, abyss shifts do break traps, which then harmlessly disappear 06:36:24 traps don't appear randomly in the abyss, but some vaults have them 06:36:38 That's a bug then 06:36:39 Moriasc: where's your snail input!?!?! :) 06:36:51 Traps should be preserved, but I did not test them 06:37:00 haha. Why are you so excited over this? 06:37:20 I fell asleep at my desk, but I have the text all in wordpad. 06:37:30 !fight 20 rat v 20 rat arena:chaos t:99 delay:50 06:37:39 * Moriasc mentions Microsoft's wordpad, immediately kicked from dev channel 06:38:19 -!- Vandal| has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:38:41 Moriasc: No, you only get kicked for praising emacs. 06:38:42 ;) 06:38:51 (Joke being that, dpevoured, ew, uses, ew, emaacs, ew.) 06:38:59 -!- Vandal has joined ##crawl-dev 06:39:00 Crawl devs all use windows 06:39:06 I don't? 06:39:16 Adam, Enne and Darshan and... rob? Use Macs. 06:39:28 /home/persson/Documents/packages/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/entry.des:3580: no features matching "enter_abys" 06:39:29 Windows are very useful for ventilation and to look outside the house 06:39:31 Oh weird, I thought crawl devs were the exact opposite of nethack players 06:39:40 I use Linux... 06:39:47 Ah. These are interesting insights. 06:39:56 due: casmith789 is yanking your chain :P 06:39:57 I'd say the majority of other people use Linux. Felirx and dpeg and Keskitalo use Windows/linux. 06:40:00 greensnark: I know. :p 06:40:14 That was strange, now it runs. 06:40:24 Did someone break save compat? 06:40:25 enter_abys is not a valid feature 06:40:27 Or was that me? 06:40:33 -!- ortoslon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:40:46 I'm getting the assert(smc) thing. 06:40:47 Probably roguelike players overall use linux over windows, or if not, there is definitely a much higher percentage of linux than in the general market 06:40:56 Oh. I broke it. 06:41:00 It's my save from the holy branch. 06:41:09 Who is responsible for the enter_abys 06:41:13 I do not know 06:41:19 just add another s 06:41:22 I can't find it any more. 06:41:31 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 06:41:31 It's in a randomised block, it won't happen every time 06:41:48 AHHH. 06:42:09 dpeg!!! 06:42:21 DPEG!!! 06:42:27 dpevoured? 06:42:39 169ad7772 adds minmay's entry vaults and does s/enter_abyss/enter_abys/ :P 06:42:49 I didn't know that was required for minmay's entry vaults :P 06:43:00 * greensnark slaps dpevoured with a trout. 06:43:12 he's just saving space, optimising your programs 06:43:37 daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarshan 06:43:56 http://sprunge.us/MVAO 06:44:01 When I have no runes, it retturns 0 06:44:05 When I have one rune, it returns a table. 06:44:14 03greensnark * r683c2a06b795 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/entry.des: s/enter_abys/enter_abyss/ 06:44:19 I was hoping I could do a, b = you.num_runes(); a = 1, b = table of rune items. 06:45:08 You can, you just need to return (2) to say you pushed two return values to the stack :P 06:45:08 greensnark: Fix it! >:) 06:45:13 Ohhh. 06:45:14 Duh. 06:45:32 * greensnark laughs immoderately. 06:45:39 * due hits greensnark with a return value. 06:45:58 * greensnark clutches his semicolon. 06:46:10 semicolon or semifreddo? 06:48:10 casmith789: I can't think of ANY dev who uses Windows, at least as their default system. 06:48:21 due: and I'm not a Mac user either. 06:48:29 Nice, the devteam are sensible :) 06:48:40 Hey, who are you calling sensible 06:48:44 in fact, I have never seen a Mac in my entire life 06:48:45 Oh wait, was that a compliment? :P 06:49:04 greensnark: oh sorry, I thought you weren't a part of the devteam? 06:49:04 KiloByte: felirx? :) 06:49:09 at most sshed into one when SF's Compile Farm was still there 06:49:20 casmith789: No, but some of my good friends are! 06:49:31 Some of my best friends are on the dev team! 06:49:38 casmith789: He pretends not to be, but actually is. 06:49:40 well tell them from me they're sensible! 06:49:45 The fact that he's the 0.7 release manage basically cements this fact. 06:49:48 due: yes, I know :) 06:49:49 sanity is for the weak 06:50:04 Strength is for the weak 06:50:07 Excellent! you.num_runes works. 06:52:34 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:53:43 hey Mu 06:53:49 y0 06:53:54 z1 06:55:34 a9 06:55:47 why is it that when i open some of the irc logs (in the topic) they open in the browser, while others demand i open them in a text editor 06:55:53 they're all .log files i don't get it 06:59:04 Differing reported MIME types/ I'm unsure. 06:59:30 03due * ra291910bf16f 10/crawl-ref/source/ (l_you.cc stairs.cc stairs.h): Write a num_runes wrapper for Lua. 06:59:32 03due * r9074f4a647d9 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/clua/lm_door.lua: Use you.num_runes in lua:lock_door. 06:59:51 Do Nellie and Chuck need buffs then, if dpeg/syllogism managed to get through the map easily? 07:00:44 what da heck is a mime type 07:00:54 nellie is completely optional 07:00:56 they aren't really major threats to begin with 07:00:59 chuck too 07:01:07 Aw, I wanna see people die to them. 07:01:22 the proper iron giant is a lot tougher now that he spits out iron elementals 07:01:27 you want to see people die? heartless! 07:01:52 if he summons repeatedly he kicks ass in the arena :p 07:01:57 iron giant <3 07:02:12 Adeon: I'm a sick, evil bastard. What can I say? 07:02:18 do the elementals still breathe splinters 07:02:31 @??iron elemental 07:02:31 iron elemental (10E) | Speed: 6 | HD: 12 | Health: 72-144 | AC/EV: 20/2 | Damage: 40 | Flags: 11non-living, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 04fire+++, 12cold+++, 11elec+++, 09poison+++ | XP: 1087 | Sp: iron shot (3d24), slow, metal splinters (3d27). 07:02:36 awesome 07:03:30 the whole mid-game @ my map needs a difficulty bump 07:03:39 you could make some subvaults duey :3 07:04:58 I should! 07:05:38 or perhaps make a map on your own 07:05:48 I ponder making one, except that's a lot of work. 07:06:06 I'm really shit with balance, to be honest. 07:08:41 Oh, I didn't realise you had more customs. 07:08:48 but some of the ideas: 1. all monsters being redefined spriggans. Spriggan toddlers and spriggan annihilators. 2. Redefining uniques to other uniques. 3. Friendly Chuck who wants you to help against those nasty bastards who stole a giant rock from him. 07:09:07 <3 07:09:11 for 3., att:friendly may be too much, though 07:09:16 I want a Spriggan annihilator. 07:09:32 that's just a matter of changing spells. 07:09:40 * due <3 retab 07:10:06 ooooh friendly uniques 07:11:09 But what about this: spriggan defender hd:30 name:Cerebite n_rpl spells:fire_storm ; robe ego:fire_resistance . long sword unrand:sword_of_cerebov 07:11:59 (defender just for bigger melee damage than the base) 07:12:56 <33333333 07:13:02 the problem with logs is that a) the logbot doesn't strip useless mIRC-style formatting codes from the log files and b) apache doesn't know what mime type a .log file is so it tries to guess, and the formatting codes make it think the file is binary, so it sends application/octet-stream instead of text/plain as the type 07:13:25 RjY: Hm, it's the standard irssi log output, I imagine? 07:13:45 complain to doy :0 07:13:53 it can be fixed by either a) fixing the log bot to strip the control codes or b) putting something like "AddType text/plain .log" in apache's config 07:14:18 due: i thought Ashenzari wrote the log files 07:14:31 It might. 07:14:39 What's it running anyway? 07:14:45 Basicbot? 07:14:55 is doy's bot, anyway. 07:21:07 tilereg-dgn.cc:760: error: 'cloud_name' was not declared in this scope 07:21:49 ... Giant eyeballs and an orb of fire? AHAHAHAHA. 07:22:13 felirx: Blame greensnark, he recently change dthe code and forgot to fix tiles. 07:22:17 greensnark: Ping! 07:22:21 ;( 07:22:44 Argh tiles 07:22:59 in DungeonRegion::handle_mouse 07:23:02 greensnark: You forgetful tiles-destroying asshole! :( 07:23:13 * due loves on greensnark anyway. 07:23:17 I'm not forgetful, I intentionally do not build tiles, saves a lot of compile time :P 07:23:28 I feel the same way about the console version. ;) 07:23:31 I usually test on both, since I can 07:23:40 only takes some 1min 30s to build 07:23:44 Hey Enne! 07:23:55 Mu_: Do you want a TRJ+walls dropping thing for your Slime minivaults? 07:24:08 Hey, due. :) 07:24:23 due: haha it'd be cool 07:25:04 more code duplication inc! 07:25:29 * due duplicates felirx's code. 07:25:46 i think maybe it's ok as it is though 07:25:49 I need a faster laptop 07:26:01 my laptop takes 15-20mins to compile :D 07:26:02 This 2006 Core 2 Duo is getting pretty long in the tooth 07:26:27 let's see 07:26:36 due: yeah actually just leave the slime as it is i think :3 07:26:43 we need a random option and then default 'tab' for the sprint map choice, anything else? 07:27:08 felirx: do you use make -jX where X is the number of cores? 07:27:11 felirx: And the menu should be bypassed completely if the sprint map was specified on the command line 07:27:12 -j8 07:27:22 .... 8 cores?? 07:27:26 i7 07:27:31 4 cores, 2 threads per core 07:27:47 felirx: It takes 15-20 minutes to compile on an i7?! 07:27:48 you do need loads of memory for that, though 07:27:53 no, on my eeepc :D 07:27:56 :P 07:28:04 I have 6gig ram 07:28:19 I wouldn't use more than 1 job per 512MB memory 07:28:26 ah, right 07:29:41 should spend some day unifying all these startup screens to a template structure that reuses the same code I think 07:32:00 03greensnark * rbd3f9f3643c7 10/crawl-ref/source/tilereg-dgn.cc: Fix tiles compile. 07:33:52 For the tournament Sprint maps, please let me know if there are commits that need to be cherry-picked to 0.7 for Sprint map support 07:34:18 Because the tourney Sprint map must work on the 0.7 codebase 07:34:28 I'm making all m tournament-related commits to trunk. 07:34:45 greensnark: Can you cherry-pick my two recent runes commits? :) 07:34:49 Will do 07:35:02 Just keep me posted for things that are needed for Sprint, because I'm not following Sprint dev 07:35:50 Is there a way of listing commits in trunk that haven't been cherry-picked? 07:37:10 does it currently ask the sprint map before asking species and background? 07:37:38 Yes 07:37:59 Is there any way to use EDSC instead of NAME? 07:38:09 greensnark: that means my silly "quad damage" gimmick would have to be put into the official branch. I'm not sure if that's a good idea since, well, it's extremely silly, and no sprint map uses it yet. 07:38:49 does it yell out "QUAD DAMAGE" in a quake3 voice? 07:39:07 We should get those sounds for Crawl 07:39:21 INVISIBILITY, HASTE, etc. 07:39:40 QUAD DAMAGE? 07:40:17 Rally crawl: HARD LEFT, HAIRPIN RIGHT, INVISIBLITY, STRAIGHT! SIGMUND! DEATH! 07:40:27 I want Crawl Kart now. 07:40:28 So mmuch. 07:41:45 felirx: it just prints it, obviously. The reverb you'd get is simulated by printing all messages in all caps. 07:41:58 -!- dpevoured is now known as dpeg 07:42:08 * dpeg has written lots of vaults using nothing but notepad. 07:42:24 And when he says notepad he means the paper kind 07:42:30 I hope at least not the windows vanilla notepad 07:42:33 greensnark: He doesn't use notepad, he uses envelopes. 07:42:38 even paper is better than that 07:44:36 Hey cool, there's an empty function with "TODO enne" in it :0 07:45:01 probably one of the resize functions! 07:45:18 felirx: yes, the windows vanilla notepad. It made me appreciate gvim, seriously. notepad was my gateway to vi :) 07:45:31 pokemon now, back later 07:45:39 I prefer gvim to vim, to be honest. 07:46:35 mmm, not getting the sprint menu at all since the trunk right now only has one sprint map I think 07:47:37 felirx: Copy sprint.des to sprint2.des and change the map name in sprint2.des 07:47:46 Just don't commit it accidentally :) 07:48:10 especially that Chapayev's second map is named just sprint2.des 07:48:36 I wonder how the sprint sequels will be named 07:48:37 it does have a proper title, though, unlike sprint_mu 07:48:41 sprin3.des, sprint-forever-after.des? 07:48:54 I made my own supercool sprint map in about 30 seconds 07:48:56 sprint-the-third.des I mean 07:48:57 very challenging! 07:49:19 i make basic vault shapes in ascii painter and then finish the details in wordpad :3 07:49:26 "sprint", "sprints", "sprint 3", "sprint resurrection" 07:50:08 sprint vs. crawl 07:50:34 KiloByte: <3 07:50:37 We need aliens 07:50:48 A vault filled with alien eggs 07:50:54 And as the player enters... 07:51:03 FACEHUGGER SPAM 07:51:41 Once infected you have 30000 turns to win the game before the alien bursts out, instakilling you 07:51:54 ??chaos 07:51:54 chaos brand[1/4]: Imitates other brands, or can heal, polymorph, berserk, haste, invisify, petrify, paralyse, torment, and probably do a lot more to enemies. New in 0.5, only gifted by Xom, Xom's vault guards, found on Pan lords, or on the uniques Crazy Yiuf or Psyche(but only post-0.5). 07:52:43 Crawl used to have code for shoggoths that could infect the player 07:52:48 I don't know if it was ever enabled though 07:55:44 an alien branch would rule if it was all stellar horrors and starspawned monstrosities and such :p 07:56:38 I agree utterly. =D 07:58:30 03dpeg 07stone_soup-0.7 * r3f5f9d65effc 10/crawl-ref/source/skills2.cc: Change DS and DG aptitudes as per Mantis 1451 (TGW). 07:58:31 03kilobyte 07stone_soup-0.7 * rec9615d7022b 10/crawl-ref/source/ (dungeon.cc env.h shopping.cc tags.cc traps.cc): Use a "tgrid" so we don't have to look up traps or shops linearly. 07:58:32 03greensnark 07stone_soup-0.7 * r8c0441623975 10/crawl-ref/source/hiscores.cc: mark_milestone suppresses milestones that are identical to the previous milestone on the same turn. 07:58:33 03greensnark 07stone_soup-0.7 * rb94f3eb7f164 10/crawl-ref/source/ (directn.cc directn.h item_use.cc): [1846] Fix wand targeting being unaffected by confusion (OG17). 07:58:36 03due 07stone_soup-0.7 * r53642d4058f2 10/crawl-ref/source/ (l_you.cc stairs.cc stairs.h): Write a num_runes wrapper for Lua. 07:58:37 03due 07stone_soup-0.7 * r6cc303f7b612 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/clua/lm_door.lua: Use you.num_runes in lua:lock_door. 08:06:22 Mu_: ASCII painter? 08:06:35 Sounds fun. 08:06:38 03kilobyte * rfc7896954739 10/crawl-ref/source/ (10 files in 5 dirs): Whitespace fixes. 08:06:39 03kilobyte * re4037f9071c3 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/mini_monsters.des: Translate a comment from German into English. 08:06:41 03kilobyte * rd4f96f476ec8 10/crawl-ref/source/tags.cc: Be slightly more forgiving when switching between branches. 08:06:46 03kilobyte * r33a264bc37f2 10/crawl-ref/source/ (dungeon.cc terrain.cc): Mark new traps on the tgrid when they are created/moved. 08:06:49 03kilobyte * r809d9e5252b6 10/crawl-ref/source/ (shopping.cc traps.cc): Hard fail when tgrid is invalid. 08:07:36 greensnark: you can pull the new maps into 0.7, if you like. 08:09:06 while I'm at it, should we try blue on light grey instead of green on light grey? 08:09:10 dpeg: I thought you didn't want them public? 08:10:16 I guess it's about minmay's vaults 08:10:27 Oh. 08:17:00 dunno it was just the first result on google for ascii painter :p 08:18:05 Works not too bad. 08:18:08 Pity I'm shit at drawing. 08:18:14 Somethign that runs under wine! 08:20:11 -!- Enne has quit [Quit: Enne] 08:20:53 aha 08:20:58 random map selection for sprint be broken 08:21:18 :( 08:27:02 Mu_: I meant the minmay and nrook vaults from yesterday. 08:27:05 greensnark: ^ 08:27:20 felirx: worked for me 08:27:43 huh 08:29:11 Mu_: yes? 08:29:17 !seen syllogism 08:29:18 I last saw syllogism at Sat Jul 3 12:51:54 2010 UTC (37m 24s ago) saying ??chaos on ##crawl-dev. 08:29:38 Couldn't find selected Sprint map 'random' 08:29:41 which is... odd :D 08:30:15 That's trying to place a map by name of random rathr than randomly picking a tagged Sprint map, yeah? 08:30:25 felirx: ah, nobody ever tried random :) Still in the tester habit, eh? (Thanks for that!) 08:30:32 nono 08:30:41 if the newgame choice sprint map is "random", it picks random 08:30:43 in theory 08:31:10 greensnark: do you remember the bit about Sprint map titles/descriptions for the menu? 08:31:57 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 08:32:21 Gonna switch off, later folk. 08:32:48 if the string map has value "random", how on earth can map.compare("random") == 0 fail 08:34:18 due: later! 08:34:48 I wonder if greensnark's eyes are already glued to the telly, and he's chiming into the vuvuzela concerto with his neighbours... 08:39:24 Moriasc: thanks! 08:41:03 haha. I'm glad you appreciate my dubious contribution. 08:41:42 hope I didn't break it! 08:41:53 03felirx * r2077bd4590f8 10/crawl-ref/source/newgame.cc: Hide Backspace from sprint menu 08:41:56 03felirx * rb91fee270284 10/crawl-ref/source/newgame.cc: Partially fix random sprint map selection 08:41:59 03felirx * r4ea23949f6b3 10/crawl-ref/source/newgame.cc: Convert sprint map choice to Precisionmenu 08:42:09 well that was random order O-o 08:42:36 felirx: yay 08:47:32 http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/9933/1215192418269xf8.jpg -- too bad, they got NetHack totally wrong 08:49:16 indeed 08:53:08 * Moriasc sketches Crawl maps on paper, enjoys playing with coloured pencils for the first time in many years 08:53:44 funny that -- I do all my maps on the screen, in black and white (notepad :) 08:57:49 dpeg: I'll pass on the new maps for 0.7 08:58:17 And yes, Germany v Argentina <3 08:58:21 Back later 08:58:33 greensnark: there's no need to pass on all the small maps :( 08:58:51 or is "pass on" == push into 0.7? 08:58:55 dpeg: I'm not going to spend time reviewing them for bugs, and map bugs tend to lie undiscovered 08:59:02 dpeg: No, we'll take them for 0.8 08:59:17 sniff 08:59:25 I played them! 08:59:26 For instance: there was an enter_abys typo that did not fill me with confidence :) 08:59:33 yes, I saw that. 08:59:53 We can do a post-tourney 0.7.1 with these :) 09:00:11 Just not for 0.7.0 proper 09:00:15 Ok, football! 09:01:36 These Indians going crazy over football :P 09:02:05 Germany vs. Argentina? Dear me, am I supposed to boo both of them? 09:03:06 Moriasc: where're you from? 09:03:18 dpeg: England xD 09:03:26 haha :) 09:03:37 only good soccer playing nations may boo :) 09:03:57 use tension for singing sword (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1884) by dpeg 09:04:18 Nonsense. I defend the Englishman's divine right to mutter and moan as much as he likes. 09:04:33 dpeg: tension? 09:06:11 Moriasc: the English people are not the only ones with that aptitude :) 09:09:45 ;3 09:19:45 -!- Enne has joined ##crawl-dev 09:49:20 bhaak: "tension" is an in-game measure for tension (difficulty of monsters in sight etc.) 09:50:15 !seen napkin 09:50:15 I last saw Napkin at Thu Jul 1 20:58:12 2010 UTC (1d 17h 52m 3s ago) saying *** CDO server will move to a new data-center on 07/15/2010 and be offline between 1100 to 1200 CEST. on ##crawl-dev. 10:05:04 ah, a bit of real roleplay in a computer rpg "my character must be nervous, because ..." 10:05:29 nice idea 10:17:46 bhaak: no no. The point is that certain effects (e.g. reaction of your god) should depend on the circumstances. And for this, we measure tension. 10:19:25 dpeg: hmm, but is the contextual effects not rather unspecific if you only have you a few values? 10:25:59 -!- Jaega1 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:36:29 -!- Jaega1 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:38:14 03enne.walker * r05902d2eb6de 10/crawl-ref/source/mapdef.cc: [1879] Fix subvaults clearing too many markers. 10:38:55 -!- Enne has quit [Quit: Enne] 10:49:52 bhaak: no, because there are so many situations... 10:49:57 it's the law of great numbers 10:50:27 We take into account: state of player (realtive health, haste/slow etc., allies) and opposition. That's good enough. 10:50:32 Wow, Germany annihilated Argentina :) 10:51:17 greensnark: what did you expect? 10:51:49 A better fight from the Argentines would have made the match even more entertaining 10:52:01 But Germany's looking awesome 10:52:17 England are better than Argentina :) 10:52:18 I am very surprised, too. 10:52:41 It should be said that quite a few folks of the current German team played in the U21 winning team. 10:52:41 I'm pleased by the Finnish success in this world cup 10:52:46 Adeon: <3 10:52:48 :) 11:00:27 -!- ortoslon has quit [Quit: bye] 11:01:14 03dpeg * rb6d89f8b7404 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/mini_features.des: Core Xii's vaults from Mantis 1724. 11:08:56 Keskitalo: around? 11:09:30 !tell Keskitalo Can we close 1035? (Vaults with inaccessible loot -- your comment is the last; it's about KiloByte's Cerebov solution.) 11:09:30 dpeg: OK, I'll let Keskitalo know. 11:10:20 greensnark: can we close 730? 11:13:06 It is not fixed 11:14:25 but didn'T we change a lot about how crashes are treated? 11:15:18 The game doesn't crash, it screws the player over in a very planned and stable way in that case :) 11:17:10 03greensnark * rddcc861ce308 10/crawl-ref/source/newgame.cc: Fix sprint map choice with -sprint-map. 11:21:42 03greensnark * r9b22ecd277f7 10/crawl-ref/source/dungeon.cc: [730] Use a random Temple map if the temple map chosen at game start is no longer available when the PC reaches the temple. 11:21:51 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 11:27:45 5 scrolls of acquirement (sprint 2), that's nice 11:32:24 greensnark: thank you! 11:32:36 syllogism: yes, you can do a lot with them. Won yet? 11:32:53 no 11:33:10 sprint2 too easy? :P 11:33:48 airstrike is really abusable on it 11:37:10 syllogism: sprint_mu has plenty of "acquire foo" instead 11:39:14 dpeg: for Cerebov, the hint shows loot in only one pillar, not sure if that's enough -- probably is. 11:39:45 dpeg: but there are far worse vaults; the worst offender is probably Hive:2 "beehive2" 11:40:31 KiloByte: I don't think so. Back in my fully unspoiled days, I assumed that there must be something beyond the pool... so you can venture and find out. 11:41:17 some pillars there are quite obvious (but only once you know to look at them!), but those buried in side walls, require either looking at the .des or wasting many more zaps from a wand of fire (and you need >20 total) 11:41:52 the original Hive:2 looks quite suspicious, yeah 11:43:03 and if you have Traps&Doors, it's just a matter of levitating there -- and for example me, if I don't recognize a vault at sight I go there to look 11:44:45 beehive_tunnels requires no spoilers (just curiosity about what is beyond deep water), minmay_beehive_corners is even more clear 11:48:01 03greensnark * r657958194d0c 10/crawl-ref/source/terrain.cc: Fix assert when abyss shift moves traps or shaps. 11:48:58 greensnark: doh, thanks 11:49:52 greensnark: but that's why the commit which broke that was marked "not for 0.7" 11:50:07 Oh, I didn't take it for 0.7 11:50:21 obviously 11:51:42 the commit with moving the traps is ok, since tgrid is just a cache that gets rechecked if anything is wrong; it's the one that removes re-checks and adds asserts what's dangerous 11:51:52 every so often, git pull/push will cause full hangup over here. 11:52:29 03greensnark * r346636306fc2 10/crawl-ref/source/terrain.cc: Fix abyss shift not moving undiscovered traps correctly, and triggering an assert when the PC steps on the trap after the shift. 11:52:47 And that's my bug :) 11:52:56 03dpeg * r92b7968ab59d 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/ (clua/ziggurat.lua des/portals/ziggurat.des): Add minmay's ziggurat monster sets and pillars. (Mantis 828) 11:52:57 dpeg: "Full hangup"? 11:53:07 yes, not even Ctrl-C will work 11:53:47 okay, I think that's it for my vault duties right now 11:53:55 gotta push the Sprint some more 11:56:02 03kilobyte * r6b1da2254b37 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/clua/sprint.lua: Sprint: a function to delay acquirement. 11:57:59 KiloByte: If I fix beehive2, can we close then? :) 11:58:55 dpeg: of course 11:59:55 dpeg: I'd start with either removing or exposing the loot hidden in rock (the leftmost and rightmost "M"s) 12:00:10 okay 12:02:00 too bad, I can't think of a clue as fitting as the one at Cerebov :( We don't have a meltable "wax membrane" or such, that would be translucent. 12:03:25