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Different staircase. 04:00:53 -!- LordSloth has left ##crawl-dev 04:11:45 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 04:12:02 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:18:43 -!- ogaz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:20:56 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 04:26:08 is it intended that draconians side-step for death cobs, etc? 05:23:53 side-stepping for any monsters (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1607) by rob 05:28:20 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:31:24 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 05:35:58 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:16:11 -!- Niccus has quit [Quit: out] 06:18:17 -!- eith_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:32:51 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:50:24 -!- casmith789 has joined ##crawl-dev 07:00:57 Chaos Knights can't choose Makhleb at creation. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1608) by Wolvaroo 07:08:13 Didn't I fix that already? 07:10:22 Felrix: Stack dump: 07:10:23 0. Running pass 'Dominance Frontier Construction' on function '@glvmInterpretFPTransformFour8' 07:10:29 I am in love with this. 07:10:49 I want to start a band called Dominance Frontier Construction. 07:13:03 CDO prebuilt binaries are 22 days old 07:13:48 -!- eith_ is now known as eith 07:26:07 Allow position exchange with pacified monsters; Disallow pacified monsters to attack you (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1609) by username 08:34:49 -!- Luca__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:35:06 -!- Luca__ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:37:55 -!- morik has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:46:33 make troves item-only (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1610) by rob 09:00:18 -!- by has quit [Disconnected by services] 09:00:19 -!- by_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:10:47 -!- by_ is now known as by 09:19:17 -!- daftfad has joined ##crawl-dev 09:52:18 -!- casmith789 is now known as casmith788 10:30:38 -!- xale has quit [Quit: xale] 10:36:23 -!- casmith788 is now known as casmith789 10:38:43 -!- jedahan has joined ##crawl-dev 10:40:01 -!- Luca__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:40:18 -!- Luca__ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:01:11 -!- jedahan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:36:17 -!- daftfad has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:36:21 -!- jedahan has joined ##crawl-dev 11:39:03 -!- Poor_Yurik has joined ##crawl-dev 12:26:40 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 12:37:38 -!- morik has joined ##crawl-dev 12:48:03 03dolorous * r46315a716361 10/crawl-ref/docs/crawl_manual.txt: Add punctuation fix. 12:48:06 03dolorous * r1af27d67d5bc 10/crawl-ref/source/ (effects.cc food.cc item_use.cc player.cc wiz-you.cc): Add minor cosmetic fixes. 12:50:08 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 12:50:13 cheers 13:14:39 -!- stabwound has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:17:59 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 13:24:37 03dolorous * rbf3e0ff38774 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/ (22 files in 6 dirs): Add punctuation-related spacing fixes. 13:24:38 03dolorous * r2ace5a74fac2 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/pan.des: Typo fix. 13:24:38 03dolorous * raa3e36880c00 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/database/quotes.txt: Fix missing word. 13:24:39 03dolorous * r14e5347de4f8 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/database/quotes.txt: Fix hard wrapping where applicable. 13:24:56 -!- ogaz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:47:58 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:01:30 03dolorous * r161555e728fb 10/crawl-ref/source/main.cc: Fix off-by-one error when calculating Chei's effect on ghoul rotting. 14:01:32 03dolorous * r96b12c91d3f3 10/crawl-ref/source/main.cc: Comment fix. 14:04:56 -!- BlackrayJack has joined ##crawl-dev 14:05:03 Hey. Can we suggest new uniques here? 14:05:34 sure 14:05:38 I have two of them 14:05:43 I'm sure some of you know already but... 14:05:54 do it on mantis for a more formal suggestion 14:06:04 Mantis? 14:06:09 ??mantis 14:06:09 mantis[1/2]: http://crawl.develz.org/mantis/ 14:06:20 ??mantis[2] 14:06:21 mantis[2/2]: The replacement for sourceforge 14:06:53 the wiki is actually where you should do unique brainstorming 14:07:23 Which page in the wiki? 14:07:42 theres probly one on uniques, sec 14:08:12 https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:monster:uniques&s[]=unique 14:20:30 -!- Niccus has joined ##crawl-dev 14:21:40 -!- aethra has joined ##crawl-dev 14:26:09 -!- pointless_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:37:08 -!- Luca__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:37:29 -!- Luca__ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:53:28 -!- daftfad has joined ##crawl-dev 14:54:30 thanks for linking the page, eith 14:55:10 03pointless_ 07ballisto_upgrade * r6cc92329b45f 10/crawl-ref/source/ (godconduct.cc mon-abil.cc mon-stuff.cc): Account for h. ballistos when deciding if a fungal colony is dead 14:56:31 no probs 14:58:30 dpeg, randgods! 15:01:48 people aren't, predictably, fans of the new slime walls 15:02:06 hmm, that finally got implemented? 15:02:13 I like them, personally 15:02:18 syllogism: people haven't been fan of new stuff since ever. 15:02:21 not fans because they're a clever and tricky obstacle? or because they're just a bad idea? (I don't know anything about this at all) 15:02:29 what are slime walls? 15:02:40 the walls in slime spit acid at you 15:02:52 well that is one way to discourage wall hugging 15:03:11 by: we should have exclusions, so compulsive o-hitters don't get mad. 15:03:35 I like the idea in concept 15:03:46 Vandal: the idea is good and works well, in my opinion. 15:04:09 More branches should have environmental obstacles besides that and Shoals 15:04:16 It really helps differentiate 15:04:20 Perhaps it should cause minor modifications, e.g. in level layout (more open spaces) or stairs placement (never adjacent to walls), but it already works as is. 15:04:26 Vandal: yes 15:04:43 Though Shoals is easily circumvented and not really a good example 15:04:44 dpeg: sure, I won't object if they get auto-exclusions 15:05:08 daftfad: yes, we should move our content to a wiki page at least! 15:05:16 by: who is able to do such stuff? 15:05:39 I wonder if being able to fly so easily is a good thing for Crawl while you're trying to make swamps less horrible for people that don't, and trying to make water level in Shoals matter 15:06:02 It would certainly make Merfolk and Kenku more appealing if water wasn't so trivial to deal with 15:06:13 Vandal: Swamp is okay these days, really 15:06:17 I know 15:06:20 That is what I'm saying 15:06:24 You made it bearable 15:06:31 dpeg: anybody, I would think 15:06:31 Maybe flight doesn't need to be so easy to obtain 15:06:40 by: well, not me, for example. 15:06:47 levitation 15:06:48 by: I guess a Mantis item would do? 15:07:09 sure; felirx was requesting this, too 15:07:32 I mean honestly I've never even thought about the water in Shoals having any real meaning, because I never went there without the ability to fly 15:07:47 because flight was always obtainable eventually 15:08:07 rings, boots, spells 15:08:29 !lm vandal br.enter=shoals 15:08:29 2. [2010-02-26] Vandal the Master Archer (L19 HEHu) entered the Shoals on turn 62529. (Shoals:1) 15:08:36 this is with the experience of two games? 15:08:46 I got the rune :/ 15:08:59 actually I've been in there more than twice 15:09:13 well I thought so anyway.. maybe I didn't have a Cj there 15:09:22 I know my HaHu win used a shoals rune 15:09:46 I thought I had gotten it on another guy too 15:09:53 Vandal: there is currently a discussion about flight/levitation on Mantis -- chime in! 15:10:07 daftfad: please reply :) I'll be away for an hour so, though. 15:10:25 * elly pokes dpeg 15:10:48 * dpeg falls from stool. 15:10:55 :O 15:10:58 I didn't poke you that hard :P 15:11:10 it was the surprise 15:11:14 roger dpeg 15:11:16 ah, I see 15:11:20 * dpeg nwo tpyes form teh flroo. 15:11:34 I'm doing homework right now :/ just got interested when someone mentioned slime walls 15:11:45 Vandal: it's not urgent, just don't forget it. 15:11:49 See you a bit later. 15:13:40 autoexclusions for Slime walls (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1611) by dpeg 15:16:09 03dolorous * rdae83e4bc356 10/crawl-ref/source/main.cc: Add formatting fix. 15:17:46 just read the last SA page comments on the slimy walls, and don't agree; it's definitely quite playable in its current state 15:18:03 dpeg 15:18:03 dpeg, I'm not sure I even have the materials anymore. will look around and put it up on the wiki if I find it. if not I'll let you know 15:18:15 Er dpeg: Are you a fan or know of Lady Gaga? 15:18:21 goons tend to be whiny drama queens that exagerate everything 15:18:36 it is hard to use the SA forum as an accurate gauge 15:18:46 by: I don't agree as the branch basically disables autoexplore 15:18:55 Agreed. Back in it's heyday though you could find some good opinions 15:19:13 in fact, disabling it would be better 15:19:25 not better than exclusions, obviously 15:19:35 I'm sure exclusions will come 15:19:38 yes 15:19:54 03pointless_ * re2b27f35da64 10/crawl-ref/source/main.cc: Merge branch 'master' of ssh://crawl-ref.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/crawl-ref/crawl-ref into local_master 15:19:54 03pointless_ * r7fc49062dbc0 10/crawl-ref/ (27 files in 2 dirs): Merge branch 'ballisto_upgrade' of ssh://crawl-ref.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/crawl-ref/crawl-ref into local_master 15:20:38 or maybe a direct change to the travel code to treat silme-wall-affected cells as non-travelable 15:21:01 that seems better, though I suppose someone might want to autotravel through them anyway 15:21:34 it's not really feasible to remove hundreds of exclusions, either 15:21:41 just the choke points 15:32:11 Luca__: around? 15:33:24 eustachio is supposed to be a summoner, right? 15:35:24 03kilobyte * re3388b84add0 10/crawl-ref/source/ (abl-show.cc food.cc main.cc spl-cast.cc): Rot-based ghoul hunger system [Mantis 1536] 15:35:26 03kilobyte * r4f81b192b3c3 10/crawl-ref/source/spl-book.cc: Allow vampires/ghouls to evoke rods when starving, for consistency with spells. 15:35:27 03kilobyte * r71ec3233f533 10/crawl-ref/source/ (invent.cc item_use.cc): Remove special casing for vampiric weapons for ghouls. All undead work the same now. 15:37:10 having the travel code skip acid walls or having the auto exclusions automatically recalculate themselves on diglike effecs is probably the best 15:40:23 what is this "hyperactive ballistomycete"? 15:41:11 it creates spore explosions centered on itself 15:41:24 Fedhas worshipers can make them with evolution 15:59:15 -!- syllogism has quit [] 16:14:56 03kilobyte * ra8bb9b05ffd1 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/monsters.txt: Give draconians actual descriptions. 16:19:02 -!- Poor_Yurik has quit [] 16:20:26 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:21:56 -!- Luca__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:22:16 -!- Luca__ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:23:41 03dolorous * r0fe5fe4e42c5 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/monsters.txt: Tweak wording. 16:23:46 -!- by has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:45:39 Anyone with the power, could you please update the prebuilt binaries? 17:05:21 -!- jedahan has left ##crawl-dev 17:50:44 back 17:51:03 BlackrayJack: still here? 17:51:12 -!- Luca__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:51:32 -!- Luca__ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:52:28 Hey 17:52:28 Yes 17:52:39 You know of Lady Gaga, yes? 17:55:33 BlackrayJack: I know of her, but am not familiar (I never listen to radio). My son loves one song of her, though. Why? 17:55:41 03dolorous * r30ad6d48962f 10/crawl-ref/docs/changelog.txt: Update the 0.7 changelog again. 17:55:55 Well, if you were familiar with her I would have suggested a unique. Based off of her sort of. Named Lady Naga 17:55:59 ah 17:56:15 does she wear non-barding armor? 17:56:30 BlackrayJack: well, a joke is not enough for a unique, I guess. But if you come up with a cool unique, everyone will see past the joke :) 17:56:35 Yes 17:56:40 I mean that's just the proposed so far 17:56:50 But I'm thinking so far she can have a siren like ability 17:56:55 But yeah 17:56:58 sure, just go ahead :) 17:56:58 Still thinking her through 17:57:02 There is a uniques wiki page 17:57:05 There's an interesting SA death report of a MD^E, who used Divine Vigour to good effect 17:57:33 morn 17:58:02 Lady Naga is amusing but too recent, I think. 17:59:23 Too recent? 18:00:14 If it's <300 years old, it's too recent. 18:02:03 but theres tesla? 18:03:08 eith: Tesla is at least long dead. Lady Gaga lives *shudder* :) 18:03:15 fair enough 18:03:32 The SA comments on the slimy walls are funnily off the wall, imo. 18:04:22 not sure if any core devs are around right now, but it should be obvious to everyone that with _every_ new release, there will be folks who like the former one better and who'll loudly proclaim that. 18:04:31 due: Hi! You're here :) 18:04:42 due: what's your opinion on the troves FR? 18:04:47 dpeg: I'm not sure. 18:04:57 due: on which? 18:05:30 dpeg: Either. The item quest can sometimes be a bit of a painful waiting game, but it is fun. 18:05:48 due: I agree. 18:05:58 -!- Siber2 is now known as Siber 18:06:09 I find it to be particularly interesting with items you always want to use (recharging, mapping, identify etc.) 18:06:28 daftfad: thank you! Please get back to me on the topic, no matter whether you find the stuff or not. 18:11:40 I think the troves' items should always be feasible. It is no fun if you get multiple potions of magic to enter the trove. 18:16:47 casmith789: and what about multiple potions of healing? 18:16:54 that's fine 18:16:59 they're possible to get 18:17:10 magic spawns once, maybe twice per game 18:17:55 casmith789: !magic is as common as !HW in trunk 18:18:05 oh right, did that get changed? 18:18:10 in that case, sure 18:18:11 !magic : MP = !HW : HP 18:18:16 yeah 18:18:34 casmith789: my objection is that everyone (bar mummies) wants !HW, but only some characters will use !magic. 18:18:39 ah 18:18:57 well give those which don't want !magic amulets of guardian spirits :) 18:19:38 casmith789: yes, I know :) 18:20:42 You feel monstrous as your demonic heritage exerts itself. 18:36:00 -!- Mu_ has quit [Quit: Defecator, may everything turn out okay so that you can leave this place.] 18:52:24 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 19:12:21 -!- casmith789 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:29:03 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:31:01 -!- ixtli has quit [Quit: ixtli] 19:44:49 03dolorous * r764110369c4a 10/crawl-ref/docs/changelog.txt: Add another 0.7 changelog entry. 20:07:28 -!- stabwound has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:08:26 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 20:43:06 -!- Enne has joined ##crawl-dev 20:45:31 Clearly, we need a better marketing department: http://thegreatestgameyouwilleverplay.com/ 20:47:12 quick someone register crawlisbetterthannethack.com 20:49:07 thegreatestgameyoushouldhaveplayed 20:49:24 I think we should wait three more years and then register http://thegreatestgamethathasbeenupdatedinthelastdecade.com/ 20:52:15 I disagree with that statement. 20:52:27 "Continuously developed for 20 years"? 20:52:48 starting from 1980? 20:53:26 Apparently. 20:54:21 Arguably Hack (1983) to 3.4.3 (2003)? 20:54:38 Hm. 20:54:48 It's a misleading statement, it implies that it's currently in dvelopment. 20:55:29 Also, there's a word-meaning issue: it says Elbereth "evokes" aforementioned God. 20:55:47 Whereas it should be "invoke". Evoke is to do with imagination, invocation is to do with calling on a god for help. 21:21:43 -!- jedahan has joined ##crawl-dev 21:39:23 -!- Niccus has quit [Quit: out] 22:20:53 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:12:15 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:18:22 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 23:33:47 -!- ogaz_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:33:58 -!- ogaz has quit [Disconnected by services] 23:34:03 -!- ogaz_ is now known as ogaz 23:45:13 -!- Vandal has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]