00:37:22 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.29-a0-668-g12ee2bf84d: Unbrace 10(7 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/12ee2bf84d9b 00:39:28 <10PleasingFungus> thinking about merging ranged weapons this weekend if no one objects 00:39:30 <10PleasingFungus> but no rush 00:40:46 <10PleasingFungus> https://github.com/crawl/crawl/compare/master...nomes unrelated: wow, i had no idea this ever existed 00:42:10 <10PleasingFungus> species that can walk through walls... but very slowly 00:42:24 <10PleasingFungus> sort of like a goofy formicid/passwall combo? 00:47:55 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-668-g12ee2bf84d (34) 02:25:38 Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.29-a0-668-g12ee2bf84d (34) 02:41:17 03gammafunk02 07* 0.29-a0-669-gc25378c239: fix: Correct a mutation description (acrboat) 10(3 minutes ago, 2 files, 5+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c25378c239fe 02:47:18 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-669-gc25378c239 (34) 03:47:07 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-4753-g3cc4eb4eda 03:59:56 Fork (bcadrencrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.03-788-g9333f8e57e 05:05:36 -!- indigaz8 is now known as indigaz 05:59:37 Look up menu doesn't show monster weakness 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=12705 by Lici_the_Crawler 06:22:50 Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-4753-g3cc4eb4eda 07:48:28 -!- Stella\OotC is now known as aoei 07:59:50 03ebering02 07* 0.29-a0-670-g5ff2a30383: fix: cap all beam wand charges for Wn start (acrobat) 10(20 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5ff2a30383f1 08:02:50 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-670-g5ff2a30383 (34) 08:07:28 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.29-a0-670-g5ff2a30 (34) 10:16:39 <08nicolae> i vaguely remember them now that you posted it 14:17:02 -!- allbery_b is now known as geekosaur 16:02:03 <08nicolae> @gammafunk q: someone in dcss mentioned an old "orbs of zot" idea where it's just a shop in zot that sells orbs. do you think my currently-on-hiatus off-brand orb shop would work as a zot-only thing as-is, with all the weird brands still in, or would i still need to cut most of them even for zot. (i asked this a coupla days ago but if you replied i missed it entirely) 17:29:22 acaj (L14 MiFi) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1968: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type 1000 (1000) (Orc:2) 18:04:54 !crashlog 18:04:54 24469. acaj, XL14 MiFi, T:21068 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/acaj/crash-acaj-20220623-212921.txt 18:20:55 <10PleasingFungus> oh ha 18:24:05 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.29-a0-670-g5ff2a30383 (34) 18:57:37 ./initfile.cc:void game_options::str_to_enemy_hp_colour(const string &colours, bool prepend) <--- these colors cannot be overridden in webtiles? 19:19:28 <12ebering> ??objstat 19:19:30 <04Cerebot> objstat[1/2]: Run with "crawl -objstat" in a build of crawl with EXTERNAL_FLAGS_L=-DDEBUG_STATISTICS in your make command (or full debug with "make debug") to generate item/monsters statistics. See crawl -help for the argument details. 19:19:35 <12ebering> ??objstat[2 19:19:36 <04Cerebot> objstat[2/2]: Spreadsheets for all released versions and trunk: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B7VXhHzhWWb7S282VWhLVWRXbG8?resourcekey=0-USiftCbTwRlT9M7Uz5Fskg&usp=sharing/ ; See the README for details: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D5mFqVi8ghz_nzvVmDUc3unx8VanVBWfgvZ8xCHaiJo/edit?usp=sharing 20:06:18 <10PleasingFungus> whatcha lookin for? 20:06:27 <10PleasingFungus> i did some objstats for new ranged weps if you're into that 20:09:20 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.29-a0-671-g87332871fa: Don't crash when a dead monster cleaves 10(43 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/87332871fa3a 20:09:45 <12ebering> Yes in fact 20:10:13 <10PleasingFungus> hm actually maybe i've overpromised 20:10:27 <10PleasingFungus> i only did D / Orc / Elf / Shoals / Snake / Vaults 20:10:36 <10PleasingFungus> @nicolae not your fault, that one was mine 20:11:08 <10PleasingFungus> also i think my last full objstat run was after i made centaurs spawn with arbaless 20:11:46 <10PleasingFungus> @ebering want me to run another? (and if so, which branches?) 20:17:32 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-671-g87332871fa (34) 20:25:06 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.29-a0-672-g859816b266: Fix (?) throwing damage rates (Lici) 10(61 seconds ago, 4 files, 13+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/859816b2660a 20:37:36 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-672-g859816b266 (34) 21:07:27 03ebering02 07[sling-away] * 0.29-a0-654-gd624933cb3: feat: re-readjust ranged weapons' stats and distribution 10(2 hours ago, 3 files, 10+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d624933cb3da 21:07:27 03ebering02 07[sling-away] * 0.29-a0-655-gd9981a1652: feat: use the sling as a starting weapon for ranged starts 10(2 minutes ago, 3 files, 5+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d9981a165220 21:07:33 <12ebering> @PleasingFungus some numbers and such for your consideration 21:07:39 <12ebering> might've made em too big 21:08:53 <12ebering> I stuck arbalests on orc warriors (that was who I was objstatting) instead of centaurs, but made them a bit stronger and slower 21:17:31 <10PleasingFungus> hm 21:17:59 <10PleasingFungus> i don’t know that i like orc warriors being ranged 21:18:09 <10PleasingFungus> in terms of them as a monster design 21:18:24 <12ebering> they get boomers sometimes already 21:18:56 <10PleasingFungus> mm, i guess splitting that chance would be fine 21:19:03 <10PleasingFungus> would rather not significantly increase it 21:19:47 <10PleasingFungus> why slings as starting weapon? 21:20:19 <12ebering> powercurve, weaker but less invested so more of a "starter item" 21:20:37 <12ebering> versus the shortbow which more strongly says "commit to me" 21:20:40 <10PleasingFungus> mm 21:21:07 <10PleasingFungus> fair 21:22:15 <09gammafunk> do we lose hand crossbows 21:22:28 <10PleasingFungus> they’re not a starting weapon 21:22:48 <10PleasingFungus> they’re a rareish exotic weapon 21:24:37 <10PleasingFungus> i think i prefer them at higher investment, though 21:24:46 <10PleasingFungus> more an eveningstar than a demon whip 21:24:52 <12ebering> mm 21:25:18 <08nicolae> split them in two then. one with higher investment. hand crossbow. hand longbow. 21:25:47 <10PleasingFungus> lol 21:26:06 <10PleasingFungus> we have fustis if we really want a fast rare ranged 1hander 21:26:27 <08nicolae> bring back hand and a halfedness 21:26:35 <10PleasingFungus> anyway agree w the orc warrior & sling start changes 21:26:47 <10PleasingFungus> will probably nerf numbers some 21:27:52 <09gammafunk> well, the issue with those egos is that they weren't really interesting on orbs, save for a couple, possibly, so getting them at a later point in the game isn't going to help in that regard. In general as a class of items, orbs are something that you'd tend to prefer earlier; several of the normal orb types would fall into this category. So I don't think a zot-only shop is the greatest idea 21:29:10 <09gammafunk> I wonder if you expand the shtick from orbs -> circles all the way to -> curvy things 21:29:16 <09gammafunk> if you'd get enough junk to through in there 21:29:24 <09gammafunk> there's a lot of curved stuff in crawl 21:29:38 <12ebering> also imo its worth the code change to get some scarf egos on orbs 21:29:49 <12ebering> orb of invisibility etc makes a good rare shop item 21:29:51 <12ebering> orb of harm 21:30:27 <08nicolae> well, i'm probably not going to submit vaults that require code touching with the prs i already have up 21:31:31 <09gammafunk> I guess I'll never love adding an ego exclusive to an existing item of a similar slot type, but if you wanted something impactful 21:31:40 <09gammafunk> definitely scarf egos are more that category 21:32:48 <08nicolae> however, i have a much stupider vault to replace the orb shop with in the PR 21:33:25 <09gammafunk> REJECTED! ...sorry, force of habit...what was the idea? 21:33:35 <08nicolae> give me a few minutes 21:36:38 03nicolae02 07[nicolae-decors-0522] * 0.29-a0-527-g27278b5556: Add a shop to replace the orb shop 10(71 seconds ago, 1 file, 13+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/27278b555684 21:36:40 Branch pull/2559 updated to be equal with nicolae-decors-0522: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/2559 21:38:07 <08nicolae> there we go 21:42:17 03nlavsky02 {GitHub} 07* 0.29-a0-673-g85323850a6: fix: apply item_slot when seeing monsters use unid'd scrolls or potions 10(5 seconds ago, 1 file, 17+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/85323850a693 21:43:27 <08nicolae> oh yeah i was wondering if i should mention that that PR was still open 21:44:17 03robertxgray02 {GitHub} 07* 0.29-a0-674-g5f01ad7185: Quote for Gozag's altar 10(6 seconds ago, 2 files, 25+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5f01ad718547 21:47:17 03Nikolai Lavsky02 {ebering} 07* 0.29-a0-675-ge176fc164b: fix: mark teleportitis as suppressed in more cases 10(11 days ago, 1 file, 5+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e176fc164b62 21:47:17 03Nikolai Lavsky02 {ebering} 07* 0.29-a0-676-ga64570c9d2: fix: tweak teleportitis-related messaging and status display 10(11 days ago, 6 files, 10+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a64570c9d294 21:47:59 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-674-g5f01ad7185 (34) 22:21:39 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-676-ga64570c9d2 (34) 22:39:20 <10PleasingFungus> @ebering ty for cutting a swathe through PRs! really appreciate it 22:39:38 <10PleasingFungus> think it's v important for the health of development 22:39:53 <10PleasingFungus> just haven't had the energy myself ;_; 23:04:09 03hellmonk02 07[mega_microtemples] * 0.29-a0-670-g6290bf51e6: feat: Transporter temple 10(30 minutes ago, 1 file, 48+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6290bf51e6f5 23:04:09 03hellmonk02 07[mega_microtemples] * 0.29-a0-671-g6b55afe08c: feat: All gods temple 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 41+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6b55afe08c81 23:50:05 03PleasingFungus02 07[sling-away] * 0.29-a0-656-g5cda2b28bc: Re-tweak ranged weapon stats 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5cda2b28bc82 23:50:05 03PleasingFungus02 07[sling-away] * 0.29-a0-657-g4daa9f6e72: Play with AM/Hu starts 10(59 seconds ago, 3 files, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4daa9f6e72b1 23:50:05 03PleasingFungus02 07[sling-away] * 0.29-a0-658-g411659470b: Make Punk a custom weapon type 10(5 days ago, 2 files, 5+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/411659470bc4 23:50:28 <10PleasingFungus> imagining ebering and me just going back and forth on an ever smaller number of ranged number stats 23:50:43 <10PleasingFungus> ebering bumps accuracy by 1. I decrease the "commonness" stat by 1 23:50:54 <10PleasingFungus> https://c.tenor.com/xYJLQil6oQ8AAAAC/duck-season-rabbit-season.gif 23:55:22 04Build failed for 08sling-away @ 41165947 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/2553399646 23:57:16 <10PleasingFungus> oops, old commit