00:02:54 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-555-g3b24f45cc1 (34)
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06:22:46 <Lantell> Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-4719-g50af30713d
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09:14:02 <Discord|> <12e​bering> @PleasingFungus interface screw: trj spawns can be targeted w simulacrum but no simulacra appear
09:14:15 <Discord|> <12e​bering> No way to tell them apart from non spawns either
09:24:26 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> nice
09:24:44 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> classic bug
18:23:58 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.29-a0-555-g3b24f45cc1 (34)
19:06:01 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.29-a0-556-g2ca5787500: Don't freeze jelly spawns' souls (ebering) 10(36 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2ca5787500ec
19:12:07 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> hm, i wonder if it's actually important that contriction damage increases over time
19:14:29 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> (if it didn't, we could display damage numbers for grasping roots / vile clutch!)
19:17:45 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-556-g2ca5787500 (34)
19:25:44 <gammafunk> PleasingFungus: It would certainly be a nerf to BVC, although probably not much of one in practice. I'm not sure how much the damage increases over time, and can't remember if I just copied the scaling factors from "direct" constriction for those or what
19:26:41 <gammafunk> it is important that there be a spellpower/monster HD(for grasping roots) factor for base constriction damage, so I guess as long as that is maintained it would be fine
19:27:34 <gammafunk> there is also normaly direct constriction to consider, though, surely we'd also make that not increase over time (and thus likewise display its damage)?
19:29:02 <gammafunk> oh, can't we also "just" display the current constriction damage considering how long the defender has been constricted? don't think that's an information link or anything
19:50:20 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> we could always slightly boost bvc base damage
19:50:28 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> don't feel strongly about that
19:50:43 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> it does seem like monsters generally break out after a couple turns anyway, though i might just need more power 🙂
19:50:54 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> agree the spellpower factor needs to be maintained
19:51:06 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> agree we'd also remove the time factor from direct constriction
19:51:26 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> gammafunk: i don't understand what you mean by this last sentence - how and where would we display current constriction damage?
19:51:35 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> I'm talking about the display for spells
19:52:09 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> this thing
19:52:09 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747522859361894521/983881078894891068/unknown.png
19:52:20 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> there's no defender associated with that display...
19:54:28 <gammafunk> hrm, right, there's no real context for it. I suppose displaying initial constriction damage and some kind of indicator that means "more over time, see x-v of target" just isn't in the realm of possibility.
19:55:01 <gammafunk> an asterisk with a little legend at the bottom? does seem like simplifying the spell logic so there's no increasing damage would be a lot more straightforward
19:57:01 <gammafunk> ah, was going to ask how we show DoT of other spells like polar vortex, but I see that still lacks damage display, because it's hard to show damage for that one
19:59:05 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> yeah, polar vortex is just absurd 😛
19:59:18 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> static discharge is another one on the weird list, though hellmo has some plan to simplify it
19:59:49 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> we certainly could put initial damage with an asterisk, i do think that's in the realm of possibility
19:59:53 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> usually we don't even bother with a legend
20:00:00 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> but it'd be nice if it was just simpler, as you said
20:14:04 <perryprog> just list polar vortex as "crap ton"
20:27:40 <Discord|> <09h​ellmonk> didnt i do static discharge already
20:34:30 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> oh
20:34:32 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> maybe
20:34:35 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> idk
22:11:45 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.29-a0-557-g43b9904bd1: Fix Chei + rampaging randarts (dilly) 10(66 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/43b9904bd1c0
22:17:27 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-557-g43b9904bd1 (34)
22:53:36 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> oh my god
22:53:58 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> is it common knowledge what the .des file extension stands for?
22:54:16 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> because I guess I never knew until now
23:02:15 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> no?
23:10:47 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> discovered from levdes.vim: > " Vim syntax file > " Language:    Dungeon Crawl level design (.des) files. > " Maintainer:    Darshan Shaligram <...> > " Last Change:    2007 Jun 28
23:10:55 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> extremely accurate Last Change date!
23:11:19 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> I guess I internally thought it stood for "description", or something
23:12:08 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> heh
23:26:15 <Discord|> <03w​heals> my theory is that secretly the snark's middle name starts with E and we're just writing his initials out each time
23:37:28 <gammafunk> wheals: brilliant