00:54:46 -!- allbery_b is now known as geekosaur 01:34:46 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.29-a0-495-g17b79114eb (34) 02:43:18 Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.29-a0-495-g17b79114eb (34) 02:54:14 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.29-a0-495-g17b79114eb 03:32:38 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-4719-g50af30713d 03:50:04 Fork (bcadrencrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.03-764-g71b7f3ec17 04:36:31 03gammafunk02 07* 0.29-a0-496-g281f2b06d5: fix: Correct a Makefile variable (Goratrix) 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/281f2b06d5b1 04:37:04 <09gammafunk> @PleasingFungus oops, I didn't even have the recent changes, so my test of cross-compilation was invalid, and Goratrix pointed out how a typo had snuck into your commit in the Makefile, sorry 06:03:49 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-496-g281f2b06d5 (34) 06:23:18 Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-4719-g50af30713d 08:18:14 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.29-a0-496-g281f2b0 (34) 10:58:57 03advil02 07* 0.29-a0-497-gb6e6f924de: fix: prevent another player tile crash (Aliscans) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b6e6f924de1c 11:01:32 03advil02 07* 0.29-a0-498-ge007cd9fbb: fix: typo 10(20 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e007cd9fbbea 11:02:44 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-497-gb6e6f924de (34) 11:17:24 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-498-ge007cd9fbb (34) 12:07:58 03advil02 07* 0.29-a0-499-ge94edfd80f: fix: header build tests 10(57 seconds ago, 3 files, 5+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e94edfd80f86 12:09:35 <06advil> yeah, this was some transient thing, but it was masking a different build failure 12:35:55 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-499-ge94edfd80f (34) 12:36:25 <06advil> oh, ha, I didn't read all the scrollback 12:36:32 <06advil> guess it wasn 12:36:43 <06advil> 't transient, just fixed before I got the next error 12:49:34 <06advil> reports from the other discord that things are going weird with tiles for some of the stranger new zombies 12:49:47 <06advil> e.g. slime creature zombies seem to look like hell knights? 12:50:13 <06advil> (J zombies in general seem odd to me, but I'm not sure what a principled exclusion for them would be) 12:51:44 J zombies don't bother me anywhere near as much as J skeletons would 12:59:09 <06advil> weirdly, I don't see much that would prevent that, at least for jellies 12:59:38 <06advil> no J has M_NO_SKELETON 12:59:53 <06advil> there's some species constraint that might prevent it for other Js 13:10:08 <08nicolae> jelletons 13:20:23 <06advil> does anyone know what the difference is supposed to be between mons_zombifiable and mons_class_can_be_zombified? 13:20:49 <06advil> other than the fact that the latter seems to just entirely ignore the M_NO_ZOMBIE flag (which is presumably what is leading to reports of things like necrophage zombies) 13:23:30 <06advil> they're both quite old 13:24:11 <06advil> maybe one is for placement and one is for raising the dead? 13:30:05 <06advil> !git 10b964d8d79a6174 13:30:06 <04Cerebot> kate- * 0.29-a0-492-g10b964d8d7: Actually allow all natural monsters to be zombified (26 hours ago, 2 files, 3+ 2-) https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/10b964d8d79a 13:30:15 <06advil> I think I'm fairly unsure about the || here 13:30:43 <06advil> I'm going to move the M_NO_ZOMBIE check into that fn though 13:31:13 <06advil> which should head off some of the undead undead that are showing up now 13:35:26 03advil02 07* 0.29-a0-500-g88678701b1: fix: prevent zombifying various undead (Rhaal) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/88678701b151 13:47:44 04Build failed for 08master @ 88678701 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/2397917620 13:48:02 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-500-g88678701b1 (34) 13:53:51 <05kate> i think historically shapeshifters were allowed to be zombies (if you reanimated them or placed them in a vault), but wouldn't generate randomly, possibly that's the distinction? 13:56:02 <05kate> probably it's fine for there not to be any distinction there but also for shapeshifters not to have M_NO_ZOMBIE 14:04:24 03kate-02 07* 0.29-a0-501-g50bc209b2e: Allow shapeshifter zombies 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/50bc209b2ebb 14:04:24 03kate-02 07* 0.29-a0-502-g6e53cefa51: Remove an unnecessary non-flag 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6e53cefa5184 14:17:47 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-502-g6e53cefa51 (34) 14:21:06 <13Sastreii> another 2 set of mutations, big brain and robust 14:21:07 <13Sastreii> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747522859361894521/979811501625995324/Schermata_2022-05-27_alle_20.15.52.png 14:21:07 <13Sastreii> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747522859361894521/979811501940547624/brain_or_muscles.zip 14:50:30 03PleasingFungus02 07[stellar-work] * 0.29-a0-502-g63d47c90de: Fix glowing / invis messaging (CarefulOdds) 10(19 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/63d47c90de07 14:57:04 03kate-02 07* 0.29-a0-503-g5bb2ffafd0: Prevent some unsuitable monster skeletons 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 18+ 17-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5bb2ffafd0fd 15:02:51 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-503-g5bb2ffafd0 (34) 15:13:07 <06advil> ah, probably necrophage zombies (etc) were then prevented in some other way I didn't dig back enough to find 15:14:41 <06advil> hm there's also apparently M_NO_GEN_DERIVED which would probably prevent that for shapeshifters if we wanted to 15:14:56 <05kate> i think so yeah, not certain exactly how that worked 15:15:17 <05kate> it's definitely very crawl to have so many ways of doing similar but slightly different things 15:15:24 <06advil> that one is explicitly documented as "derived undead can't be randomly generated" 15:20:40 <10PleasingFungus> imo crawl should be more complicated 15:21:00 <06advil> 🤔 15:21:15 <10PleasingFungus> currently it’s too straightforward and easy to understand 15:22:31 Yeah, having good UX is a design flaw 17:00:13 PleasingFungus: good news: I fixed the performance issue I was having on mft by getting a new laptop (M1 Max is FAST). Bad news: for some reason the hovering/transparent indicator of what you're placing has disappeared for levels on Artificial Sentience and The Hub (I don't have any worlds after that because I've been to busy to finish :( ). Other worlds have it fine. 17:02:45 <10PleasingFungus> weird! i'll take a look 17:03:15 <10PleasingFungus> mind posting your logs when you get a chance, just in case there's an error there? 17:03:31 <10PleasingFungus> macOS ~/Library/Logs/PleasingFungus/MFT3/Player.log You can also use the Console.app utility from your /Applications/Utilities folder to find the log file. 17:04:39 Here you go: https://gist.github.com/perryprog/2e45afc119ee12f5bbaf333eb4eb424e 17:05:09 "DEBUG set up morrre ui" nice 17:08:48 <10PleasingFungus> trying to hunt down a weird lockup issue when loading a certain level 17:09:02 <10PleasingFungus> hm, nothing jumping out at me in that log 17:09:09 <10PleasingFungus> thanks! 17:09:15 No problem 17:18:22 <13Sastreii> I’m seeing on the wiki that jyva muts are referring to the 0.22. They’re still the same? Or something changed? Just so i don’t have to do useless things 17:19:30 <10PleasingFungus> hm, why look at the wiki? 17:19:59 <10PleasingFungus> oh, for how many levels each mut has? 17:20:33 <10PleasingFungus> https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/mutations.txt#L737 has an up to date list of jiyva muts with descriptions, and you can search around in https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mutation-data.h#L1241 to find the number of levels for each of those. i could also add in-game descriptions 17:21:05 <13Sastreii> The fastest way for me to check things that aren’t super new 17:21:58 <13Sastreii> (Also i’ve updated 6 of them earlier in case you didn’t notice) 17:22:49 <10PleasingFungus> i did see the upload! have been at my actual job so haven't had a chance to patch em in 17:22:58 <13Sastreii> Ty! Tbh the wiki has a pretty good way of showing all the muts and levels, it’s pretty organized. I had doubts only for the jiyva part cuz it’s the only one really outdated 17:23:25 <10PleasingFungus> http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Category:Mutations ? 17:23:35 <10PleasingFungus> oh, stuff like http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Good_mutations 17:23:44 <13Sastreii> I forgot that we’re in two different sides of the planet, lol 17:25:12 <13Sastreii> Currently i’m using the 2nd link you posted. I’ve made a spreadsheet so i can check what i’ve done and what i’m missing 17:28:49 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.29-a0-504-gec6baf379c: Add mutation lookup 10(7 months ago, 2 files, 9+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ec6baf379c3e 17:28:49 New branch created: mut_lookup (0 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/mut_lookup 17:28:49 Branch mut_lookup updated to be equal with master: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/mut_lookup 17:29:52 wow 17:29:56 PF too good 17:33:03 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-504-gec6baf379c (34) 18:24:08 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.29-a0-504-gec6baf379c (34) 18:41:53 -!- tiobot is now known as Guest4672 20:22:40 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.29-a0-505-g99dc0984f0: Add the ultimate big brain meme (Sastreii) 10(44 seconds ago, 8 files, 11+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/99dc0984f079 20:28:23 <10PleasingFungus> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747522859361894521/979903932316913685/unknown.png 20:28:45 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.29-a0-506-ga2e7fffb44: Add tiles for ?/U (mutation lookup) 10(13 seconds ago, 2 files, 21+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a2e7fffb446c 20:37:23 <09gammafunk> can't believe my homeboy sharp scales not represented fully 100% 20:37:39 <09gammafunk> ??sharp scales 20:37:40 <04Cerebot> I don't have a page labeled sharp_scales in my learndb. 20:37:44 <09gammafunk> ??scales[sharp 20:37:45 <04Cerebot> scales[2/2]: Molten [2, 3, 4 rF+]; Icy [2, 3, 4 rC+]; Yellow [2, 3, 4 rCorr]; Green [2, 3, 4rPois]; Metallic [2, 3, 4 rElec]; Iridescent [2, 4, 6] Bone Plates [SH+4, 6, 8]; Rugged Brown [1 +3% HP, 2 +5% HP, 3 +7% HP]; Repulsion [EV+2, EV+3, EV+4RMsl]; Sturdy [ER-2, ER-4, ER-6]; Sanguine [6, 9, 12 at <67%hp]; Sharp [1 Slay+1, 2 Slay+2, 3 Slay+3] 20:41:14 03PleasingFungus02 07[stellar-work] * 0.29-a0-503-g4993d4b377: Star buffs 10(59 seconds ago, 2 files, 33+ 28-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4993d4b3779c 20:41:46 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.29-a0-506-ga2e7fffb44 (34) 20:43:33 <10PleasingFungus> feelin good. feelin sharp. feelin spicy 21:21:31 <09gammafunk> let stars cast the fabled Meteo spell..they are Lunarians... 21:43:43 <08wormsofcan> stars can cast firestorm 23:10:15 <10PleasingFungus> oh, was ‘meteorans’ in my list? i guess i suggested something similar 23:10:43 <10PleasingFungus> it’s a rock in greece 23:11:23 <10PleasingFungus> if people truly dislike star, i could be ok w meteoran. 23:21:52 <10PleasingFungus> btw, currently feeling pretty happy with stars. might aim to land em in trunk sometimes next week if no one objects 23:22:01 <10PleasingFungus> (possibly with a rename, possibly not)