01:34:32 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.27-a0-1281-ge233d83751 (34) 01:55:29 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.27-a0-1281-ge233d83751 02:17:13 Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.27-a0-1281-ge233d83751 (34) 03:31:13 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-4168-gd8da4f4ffd 03:32:15 Fork (bcadrencrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.03-536-g6fa63f1d9d 06:36:30 Pyramid (L21 MiHu) Crash caused by signal #6: Aborted (D (Sprint)) 08:29:19 <05kate> from #crawl, " to whoever it might concern: discord invite link on crawl.develz.org is broken, and discord search brings up nothing." 08:30:25 <05kate> if someone with wordpress access could update it when they get a chance! 10:22:23 <06advil> hm I just changed that, I thought I pasted it directly 10:25:06 aha, you have to do some stuff to make it non-expiring 10:33:33 <06advil> I might add that link to the front page too, even though it isn't an "official" location exactly 10:33:39 <06advil> just because it's so active 10:34:12 <06advil> also updating the mantis link there, we really have too much redundant info spread across the web 10:34:46 <06advil> huh we link to the wiki there 10:35:49 <06advil> ugh like half the links on that front page are broken or outdated 10:40:07 <06advil> I take it the live game tiles thing no longer works? 10:40:36 <06advil> https://crawl.develz.org/watch.htm actually looks moderately accurate though 10:40:56 <06advil> always amazed when I find some new piece of infrastructure that probably no one is actually maintaining but it still kinda works 10:44:43 <06advil> some broken js on the front page too 10:51:20 <06advil> var html = "

"; 10:51:27 <06advil> could this be intentional for some deep html reason? 11:18:18 <06advil> this is the problem with looking into things, I just spent 30 minutes getting the two

<06advil> do we usually do a wordpress post for a new dev? 11:37:30 <10PleasingFungus> honestly no idea 11:37:34 <10PleasingFungus> would have to do some diving 11:40:21 -!- Guest9 is now known as PleasingFungus 11:47:20 <05kate> we sometimes have done in the past i think, could mention it in the next trunk update post also 12:10:52 <10PleasingFungus> any objections to requesting https://i.redd.it/dtcq372zdp471.jpg as a loading screen? it's a bit silly, but i love the summoned hydra 12:13:12 <03wheals> i like it 12:14:22 <05kate> i guess not an especially strong objection as a non-tiles player but it feels like a bit much to me maybe 12:15:13 <05kate> also tengu don't have wings! the lore inconsistency... 12:15:58 <10PleasingFungus> haha 12:16:15 <10PleasingFungus> the wings feel vaguely metaphorical 12:16:52 <10PleasingFungus> they're clearly not chicken wings 12:16:52 <10PleasingFungus> and clearly not large enough to do anything 12:16:52 <06advil> maybe it's like sigmund dreaming of being a tengu 12:17:00 <10PleasingFungus> not everything in crawl is about sigmund 12:17:03 <10PleasingFungus> i think 12:17:20 <06advil> ok, crazy yiuf dreaming of being a tengu 12:17:43 <10PleasingFungus> lol 12:18:03 <10PleasingFungus> anyway i don't want to merge it over kate's objections 12:19:12 <10PleasingFungus> which part of it feels a bit much? the silly rooster head & robe? 12:20:57 <06advil> I'm not sure it's that much crazier than the one with the backwards hands for example 12:26:35 <10PleasingFungus> this one? 12:26:35 <10PleasingFungus> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747522859361894521/853671708057927680/title_Cws_Minotauros.png 12:26:40 <10PleasingFungus> not sure which you mean 12:31:32 -!- allbery_b is now known as geekosaur 12:33:18 <06advil> https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/tiles/title_ploomutoo_ijyb.png 12:33:33 <10PleasingFungus> oh lol that one 12:33:42 <10PleasingFungus> hands are hard 13:06:42 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.27-a0-1281-ge233d83 (34) 13:07:47 <05kate> just the rooster head i guess, i know we do have some other silly splash screens though and i do like a bunch of those (like the yiuf one and boris+natasha) so if others are a fan of this one i'd say go for it 13:11:38 <05kate> in general i am pro-silliness in crawl! just with very precise standards for silliness perhaps, i'm maybe talking myself into liking this one even, it's a good contrast with the cool hydra 13:12:11 <10PleasingFungus> basically i feel like a good metric is 13:12:24 <10PleasingFungus> "if a new player saw this, would they be excited to play or would they be turned off?" 13:12:57 <10PleasingFungus> i actually don't know the answer here, i'm also a little undecided 13:13:14 <10PleasingFungus> i just do like the hydra (and also the artist mentioned wanting it to be a splash screen, so i'd be a little sad if we had to turn them down) 13:34:08 <08nicolae> maybe some tengus have chicken heads. maybe they're an outcast because they don't have like a noble eagle head so they went into the dungeon to prove themselves that they're more than just their subspecies 13:38:02 <08nicolae> "you laughed at me for having a chicken head. but now i also have five hydra heads! and now you have no heads of any kind!" 13:39:00 <08nicolae> imo i like the hydra chicken tengu 13:50:51 <12ebering> Pro hydra chicken tengu 15:34:47 <08nicolae> is there a lua command that will return whether or not the player has the orb? 15:38:25 <05kate> you.have_orb() 15:44:31 Weird interaction of ?summoning and OTR 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=12602 by Lici_the_Crawler 15:55:06 -!- allbery_b is now known as geekosaur 16:43:27 <06advil> not a good thing to use during levelgen in any part of the dungeon that can be expected to be seed stable 😄 16:44:10 <08nicolae> oh, i was trying to make a quote for quotes.txt that would change depending on if you had the orb or not but i couldn't get it to work, i think the quote parser doesn't handle lua [[ ]] for multiline strings or using newline escape characters in regular strings 16:44:37 <06advil> aha, I see 16:47:28 <06advil> if it's in a {{ ... }} block I would expect multiline strings to work 16:48:16 <08nicolae> likewise! however, it did not. maybe i will try again later 16:48:27 <06advil> did you try [=[ ... ]=]? 16:48:36 <08nicolae> i did not 16:48:45 <06advil> it looks like maybe there's some special syntax used in only four places that does something else with [[ 16:49:10 <06advil> but lua allows putting arbitrary numbers of = in there with the same meaning, as long as they're matched 17:09:19 -!- The topic of #crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | https://github.com/crawl/crawl | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access | Please keep general Crawl-related chat to #crawl | Long stuff to a pastebin service, please 17:09:20 -!- The topic of #crawl is: Play Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup online now! Type ??servers for instructions. | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: http://termcast.develz.org - ??footv for instructions | Migrating from freenode `##crawl` (note ## ->#!) 17:25:01 -!- The topic of #crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | https://github.com/crawl/crawl | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access | Please keep general Crawl-related chat to #crawl | Long stuff to a pastebin service, please 17:25:01 -!- The topic of #crawl is: Play Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup online now! Type ??servers for instructions. | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: http://termcast.develz.org - ??footv for instructions | Migrating from freenode `##crawl` (note ## ->#!) 17:29:08 <12ebering> I wonder if this dream dust person is on irc 17:29:11 <12ebering> someone should let them know that the transparent tag is the fix to the bus they're commenting on 17:30:32 <10PleasingFungus> where do you see this person? 17:31:31 <12ebering> github! 17:31:40 <12ebering> I get e-mails based on notifications on our repo 17:31:45 <12ebering> but it is my bedtime 18:22:42 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.27-a0-1281-ge233d83751 (34) 19:22:53 03kate-02 07* 0.27-a0-1282-g6cae3ac: Adjust Wereblood description 10(65 seconds ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6cae3acc9778 19:31:53 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-1282-g6cae3acc97 (34) 19:41:27 <10PleasingFungus> @kate oh, is the howl not an on kill effect? 19:42:43 <05kate> i'm pretty sure it's just random chance while the spell's active 19:43:11 <05kate> ah, looks like it does happen more often with higher wereblood bonus though, could maybe mention that too 19:44:11 <10PleasingFungus> huh 19:44:16 <10PleasingFungus> could also... remove that... 19:44:21 <09hellmonk> awoo 19:46:35 <09hellmonk> are there any objections to moving blade hands back to level 5 (without changing the books it's currently in)? 19:46:55 <09hellmonk> Feel like it works a lot better there since it's something you ostensibly want to cast in medium-heavy armor 19:57:40 <10PleasingFungus> i'm fine with it; easy to change back again later if someone does object 19:57:43 <10PleasingFungus> no save compat needed, etc 19:58:10 <10PleasingFungus> plus then we can get another revert "revert "revert "blade hands to level 6"""" style commit message 19:59:36 <09hellmonk> lol 20:15:40 <05kate> i think it's fine at L5 too yeah, just not in a starting book 20:17:02 <05kate> i did see the PR about removing its spellcasting penalty, which feels a little tempting of an option (while leaving it at L6) since there's only 2 forms with a spellcasting penalty now so it'd maybe be feasible to just simplify that mechanic away entirely 20:17:25 <05kate> but the other one is spider form which i wouldn't particularly want to buff 20:18:00 buddle (L25 FoFi) ASSERT(mon_act == mon) in 'state.cc' at line 435 failed. (D (Sprint)) 21:26:22 <06advil> !crashlog 21:26:24 <04Cerebot> 23671. eachpiece, XL27 DrEn, T:94117 (milestone): https://webzook.net/soup/morgue/trunk/eachpiece/crash-eachpiece-20210612-100656.txt 21:28:00 <06advil> Old save crash 21:28:13 <06advil> !crashlog buddle 21:28:14 <04Cerebot> No milestones for buddle (crash). 21:28:32 <06advil> !crashlog buddle sprint 21:28:33 <04Cerebot> 2. buddle, XL25 FoFi, T:3430 (milestone): https://crawl.kelbi.org/crawl/morgue/buddle/crash-buddle-20210614-001749.txt 21:31:54 03hellmonk02 07* 0.27-a0-1283-g992921d: Return blade hands to level 5 10(3 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/992921d2c4f5 21:32:16 <06advil> Huh bribe works in sprint? 21:40:05 03hellmonk02 07* 0.27-a0-1201-g74d5156: New Zot:5 shop vault 10(12 days ago, 1 file, 18+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/74d5156d8b5a 21:40:05 03hellmonk302 {GitHub} 07* 0.27-a0-1285-gfa2398d: Merge pull request #1971 from hellmonk3/zotshop 10(7 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fa2398d640a2 21:42:33 <08nicolae> oh i love it 21:43:17 <09hellmonk> going mad with power and adding meme vaults 21:44:36 <08nicolae> can you really call it a meme yet, though 21:47:13 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-1285-gfa2398d640 (34) 22:16:34 03hellmonk02 07* 0.27-a0-1203-gbc2d63f: New spider minivault 10(11 days ago, 1 file, 27+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bc2d63fdf131 22:16:34 03hellmonk302 {GitHub} 07* 0.27-a0-1287-gca74d27: Merge pull request #1972 from hellmonk3/rollingrocks 10(11 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ca74d27db675 22:31:56 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-1287-gca74d27db6 (34)