00:01:15 <05kate> also means that draconians have claws but employed qraconians don't, maybe? 00:01:16 <10PleasingFungus> classic 00:03:54 <05kate> "// Reduce the chance of a random-shaped monster having feet." very good comment 00:07:05 <10PleasingFungus> extremely 00:07:05 <10PleasingFungus> wish i still had crawlcode access 00:13:27 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 01:34:48 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.27-a0-869-g165b36e3f0 (34) 01:56:13 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.27-a0-869-g165b36e3f0 02:49:15 Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.27-a0-869-g165b36e3f0 (34) 02:54:06 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.27-a0-869-g165b36e3f0 03:18:32 nojaa (L27 FoCK) Crash caused by signal #6: Aborted (D (Sprint)) 03:31:29 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-4116-g4a9585b5cb 03:49:15 03ebering02 07* 0.27-a0-870-gc4bfac4: Correct exaggerated poison displays 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c4bfac4c02de 04:22:27 nojaa (L27 FoCK) Crash caused by signal #6: Aborted (D (Sprint)) 05:14:15 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 05:35:05 nojaa (L27 FoCK) Crash caused by signal #6: Aborted (D (Sprint)) 05:42:35 nojaa (L27 FoCK) Crash caused by signal #6: Aborted (D (Sprint)) 05:47:35 nojaa (L27 FoCK) Crash caused by signal #6: Aborted (D (Sprint)) 06:01:50 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-870-gc4bfac4c02 (34) 06:59:51 nojaa (L27 FoCK) Crash caused by signal #6: Aborted (D (Sprint)) 07:12:35 -!- tiobot is now known as Guest86136 08:06:53 nojaa (L27 FoCK) Crash caused by signal #6: Aborted (D (Sprint)) 09:12:53 nojaa (L27 FoCK) Crash caused by signal #6: Aborted (D (Sprint)) 09:20:31 !crashlo 09:20:32 !crashlog 09:20:33 23578. horredgrones, XL23 DsNe, T:74682 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/horredgrones/crash-horredgrones-20210401-181314.txt 09:20:41 !crashlog * spring 09:20:41 No keyword 'spring' 09:20:48 wow 09:20:56 promising start to the day 09:20:59 !crashlog * sprint 09:21:00 841. nojaa, XL27 FoCK, T:117216 (milestone): https://underhound.eu/crawl/morgue/nojaa/crash-nojaa-20210402-131252.txt 09:21:38 gammafunk do you know if you'll work on meatsprint scoring any time soon? 09:22:44 I may merge or partially merge that commit just so people don't do stuff like this, it's probably not great for server cpu 09:23:41 <12ebering> oh they posted on reddit! 09:23:44 <12ebering> they tracked down the crash 09:23:49 <12ebering> it's xom trying to banish them 09:23:56 <12ebering> xom banishment apparently doesn't check for sprint 09:24:43 the crashlog doesn't look much like that? 09:24:43 <12ebering> or at least thats their conjecture 09:24:47 <12ebering> yeah 09:24:47 as plausible as that sounds 09:25:09 it just looks to me like waiting with that many monsters is choking webtiles, as a guess 09:25:10 <12ebering> I mean, I don't know whaat kind of bizarre behavior to expect when banishing in sprint? 09:25:22 banishing should just be disabled 09:26:16 <12ebering> yes, but if xom banishment starts the execution of the banishment codepath after the disable check what happens, what's the message order, where in the call stack does it crash etc. 09:26:25 <12ebering> all things I don't know 09:27:22 <12ebering> hm, but no, even with that it really doesn't look like a xom banishment crash in the call stack 09:27:29 well that crash is just while sending the map 09:33:15 I *think* banishment in sprint should be prevented by if (brdepth[BRANCH_ABYSS] == -1) 09:34:07 03kippig02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1822 * 0.27-a0-603-g81b7c57: Shrink and remove dead line of code 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/81b7c57317c3 09:34:24 as a side note there appears to be a double check for xom reverting the banishment, both in xom.cc and in banished() 09:34:24 I guess xom could revert other banishment sources, so maybe it's intentionally more likely for xom doing the banishment? 09:35:24 nojaa (L27 FoCK) Crash caused by signal #6: Aborted (D (Sprint)) 09:35:50 oh, maybe I was misreading how this code works 09:38:30 hmm, why is XOM_BAD_TELEPORT set to badness -1? 09:39:58 03kippig02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1822 * 0.27-a0-861-g428a17e: Add diablo chruch arrival vault 10(3 weeks ago, 1 file, 53+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/428a17e65256 09:39:58 03kippig02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1822 * 0.27-a0-862-ga7dc76a: remove some pillars to make it look nicer 10(3 weeks ago, 1 file, 10+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a7dc76aa912d 09:39:58 03kippig02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1822 * 0.27-a0-863-gba4e728: Fix whitespace and no_tele_into 10(3 weeks ago, 1 file, 3+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ba4e7280abed 09:39:58 03kippig02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1822 * 0.27-a0-864-g367839f: fix whitespace and malformed code 10(3 weeks ago, 1 file, 2+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/367839f902bf 09:39:58 03kippig02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1822 * 0.27-a0-865-g482c5c1: removed imps 10(3 weeks ago, 1 file, 6+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/482c5c189586 09:39:58 03kippig02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1822 * 0.27-a0-866-g1521d17: Shrink and remove dead line of code 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1521d174d9ab 09:39:58 03kippig02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1822 * 0.27-a0-873-g8a07ee8: Merge branch 'diablo_arrival' of https://github.com/kippig/crawl into diablo_arrival 10(5 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8a07ee8d3853 09:43:35 03ebering02 07* 0.27-a0-871-g6d840cc: New ecumenical altar vaults from ShaperMC 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 162+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6d840ccb4b3c 09:46:45 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-871-g6d840ccb4b (34) 09:47:25 yeah, afaict xom banishment in sprint doesn't banish you or crash (it does print the messaging though) 09:55:37 03kippig02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1822 * 0.27-a0-861-g5721c3c: Add diablo chruch arrival vault 10(3 weeks ago, 1 file, 52+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5721c3cf3a8f 10:03:39 03hypractvChipmunk02 {ebering} 07* 0.27-a0-872-g695312e: RST manual: escape the vertical bar key for layer toggle 10(19 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/695312e83b2c 10:08:44 03kippig02 {ebering} 07* 0.27-a0-873-g64e2b16: Add diablo chruch arrival vault 10(3 weeks ago, 1 file, 52+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/64e2b160fe48 10:09:07 03kippig02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1822 * 0.27-a0-861-g6317410: Add diablo chruch arrival vault 10(3 weeks ago, 1 file, 52+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/63174100c619 10:15:14 I don't know if this qualifies as a bug, but the interface doesn't seem to show my HP accurately. In my last game my character died to a cane toad which hit me for 23 damage leaving my character at -8 HP in final death which means my interface should have been showing 15 HP, but I never even saw my HP at a critical one-shot death scenario of 15 HP. Instead on my browser I thought I had 10:15:14 23 HP and was able to take another step. My final death scene can be seen the ttyrec file: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Railbird80/2021-04-02.13:36:22.ttyrec What is going on in this type of situation? I have experienced this type of death on more than one occasion, but this is first time I've reported it as bug. 10:15:29 <12ebering> can you link the morgue as well? 10:16:21 okay here is the morgue file: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Railbird80/morgue-Railbird80-20210402-134159.txt 10:16:47 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-873-g64e2b160fe (34) 10:17:21 <12ebering> !lg Railbird80 HuFE place=Lair:2 x=dam,sdam,tdam 10:17:22 <04Cerebot> 4. [dam=23;sdam=31;tdam=31] Railbird80 the Destroyer (L14 HuFE of Sif Muna), mangled by a cane toad on Lair:2 on 2021-04-02 13:41:59, with 33252 points after 32145 turns and 5:03:45. 10:17:34 <12ebering> yeah, the damage display shows the damage from the killing blow 10:17:43 <12ebering> but the cane toad got a double move on you and hit you twice 10:17:49 <12ebering> for a total of 31 damage in the turn 10:21:01 Okay, so on the double hit the first hit was for 8 and the second was for 23? which is what the final morgue file reports? 10:21:41 <12ebering> well the death message only shows how much damage was done by the killing blow 10:21:45 <12ebering> but yes if you look at the message log 10:21:56 <12ebering> you see two hits, the first for ! damage and the second for !! damage 10:22:24 The ttyrec also shows this, albeit there's no frame with an intermediate HP figure 10:23:02 correct which is why I thought I had 23 HP 10:23:17 when it was actually at 15? is that correct? 10:24:45 Uh... you had 23 HP when you made that move. Then you got hit twice. 10:26:52 <12ebering> you had 23 hp. on the cane toad's turn it got to attack twice 10:26:57 <12ebering> the first hit hit for 8 10:27:04 <12ebering> the second for 23 10:40:38 Okay, thank you for explaining it to me. 10:44:23 Although there is something that still bothers me about that final death, because I took a step yet the timer was not updated with 1.0 auts that it normally takes to move. The timer should have show an increment for the move, but it remained the same after I moved and after the cane toad got in the killing blow. 10:45:18 In any case thanks for your time. 10:50:38 <12ebering> the time taken indicator gets redrawn at the start of a new turn; you died before that could happen 10:51:17 Okay thanks for explaining it to me. 11:21:19 Git queston: If I test more overflow vaults and push them to my "overflows" fork, then make a pull request for them, will this merge with the existing PR from the "overflows" branch, or create a second one? I don't want to unnecessarily clutter crawl/crawl's PR inventory. 11:22:00 <12ebering> if you push to the branch "overflows" in your fork of the crawl repository it will update your current PR, yes 11:22:05 edit: "overflows" is a branch name, not a fork name. 11:22:11 <12ebering> yes 11:22:34 <12ebering> also, the word merge has special meaning in git, avoid it unless you mean create a merge commit 11:22:53 <12ebering> which you shouldn't need to do 11:23:48 So does this mean that a PR is "branch to branch" not "commit to commit"? That is, every commit to branch "overflows" automatically is part of "overflow" 's PR? 11:24:24 03kippig02 {ebering} 07* 0.27-a0-874-g80d416e: Remove d:1 adder in vault 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/80d416ef6e1b 11:24:48 03kippig02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1863 * 0.27-a0-861-gfd73195: Remove d:1 adder in vault 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fd73195fc695 11:25:04 <12ebering> yes 11:25:04 I recall about the merge command. As I understand it, "fetch" + "merge" is broadly equivalent to "pull" 11:26:56 Learning this makes several things clearer. In particular, the reason why using a separate branch for each project is best practice 11:27:33 <12ebering> Yes, fetch + merge is broadly equivalent to merge 11:27:34 <12ebering> erm 11:27:36 <12ebering> pull 11:28:18 <10PleasingFungus> hm 11:28:28 <10PleasingFungus> i wonder if there's some simpler way to model player poison damage 11:28:46 <10PleasingFungus> such that we wouldn't need the current extremely complex infrastructure 11:29:12 <10PleasingFungus> aut to dur and vice versa, the whole function to try to project damage over time vs regen 11:30:55 You may hold off on that PR then please. I'll continue uploading more vaults, including them is separate commits by topic as you suggested, and then let you know when I have finished uploading all of them. 11:31:13 I suspect actually that this was your plan all along, knowing that I had more coming 11:31:41 <12ebering> 🙂 11:31:42 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-874-g80d416ef6e (34) 11:31:51 <12ebering> you can, if you want, mark the PR as a "Draft" in git hub 11:32:01 <12ebering> and then when you're ready mark it as reviewable and request my review 11:32:14 I will do that now. 11:32:33 <10PleasingFungus> i wonder if it would be simpler if, instead of storing a 'duration' for poison, we stored an amount of damage, some fraction of which was applied every aut. Not totally sure that'd simplify anything... 11:32:57 <12ebering> DUR_POISON is an amount of damage, hackily hidden in a DUR 11:33:02 <10PleasingFungus> oh god 11:33:03 <12ebering> at a stranged fixed-point scale 11:33:10 <10PleasingFungus> i was unable to tell exactly what it was 11:33:17 <10PleasingFungus> just some number that converted to time in some way 11:33:50 <10PleasingFungus> a simplification could be to say that regen is disabled while poison is active (and then we'd nerf poison damage amounts in some way) 11:34:03 <10PleasingFungus> seems like that'd make dd damage shaving the last really painful case? 11:35:27 Thank you for your help. TTYL 11:35:34 <12ebering> No problem! 11:35:51 <12ebering> Making poison inhibit regen would make big regen trolls feel much sadder 11:41:05 <10PleasingFungus> i mean 11:41:08 <10PleasingFungus> they can deal with it 11:41:10 <10PleasingFungus> they're trolls 11:41:19 <10PleasingFungus> they also have big hp and big claws 11:43:46 <10PleasingFungus> vine stalker would be sadder really 11:43:47 <12ebering> anyway, I think I found all the fragile spots in that and now tuning this exponential decay application of poison is just about choosing those 3 magic numbers 11:43:52 <12ebering> yeah 11:45:23 <10PleasingFungus> @kate the players are revolting! also they're complaining that -scroll sounds way too harsh for a single level mutation (though none of them have actually gotten it as a random mut yet, afaik) and are requesting that it be softened in some way, e.g. split into two levels with a higher threshold for 'threatening' damage at the lower mut level. 11:46:50 <12ebering> let them eat cake drink potions :d 11:49:50 03ebering02 07* 0.27-a0-875-gfdfa2cc: Update the credits 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fdfa2cc8df3c 11:56:45 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-876-g71947af: Fixup _is_damage_threatening (vt) 10(81 seconds ago, 1 file, 4+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/71947af8c750 12:01:51 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-876-g71947af8c7 (34) 12:03:40 04Build failed for 08master @ fdfa2cc8 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/712096588 12:07:28 04Build failed for 08master @ 71947af8 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/712111739 12:14:57 <05kate> i'm not really convinced it'd work better as a multi-level mut, i do agree that it's potentially pretty harsh but it has a lot of ways to work around it 12:16:19 <05kate> eg if you're good at recognising when you're about to be in a bad situation (but haven't been hit just yet) then it's probably more forgiving than blurry vision, the duration is also often pretty short at low levels in cases where you might not have a ton of other options 12:17:52 <05kate> oh unrelatedly, i guess a fully -scroll species would be a thing that could exist now, exciting 12:20:44 <10PleasingFungus> someone in #dcss was trying to write one of those 12:20:44 <10PleasingFungus> 'lava golem' 12:22:33 <05kate> could 0.27 be the version that brings back both djinn and lava orcs??? 12:23:38 <10PleasingFungus> wow 12:24:29 <12ebering> everything old is new again 12:48:45 03ebering02 07* 0.27-a0-877-gf2a7138: Another credits update 10(21 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f2a7138e7eba 12:48:45 03ebering02 07* 0.27-a0-878-g0090c0f: Update the changelog through 0.27-a0-877 10(19 minutes ago, 1 file, 33+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0090c0f15f46 13:01:52 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-878-g0090c0f15f (34) 13:02:40 03ebering02 07* 0.27-a0-879-gcbadc6d: One more credit 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cbadc6d21887 13:13:08 Should Dj be able to receive useless and/or frowned upon spells? 13:13:52 <12ebering> thaat's currently the intended behavior yes 13:13:59 <12ebering> spells are picked in a seed stable way like ds mutations 13:15:01 <12ebering> if you sac love under Ru before you knew you had demonic guardian well too bad 13:15:01 <12ebering> same principle 13:15:01 Ok, thanks 13:15:01 Than it's better to avoid Sac Love and good gods on Dj. 13:15:03 Then* 13:16:40 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-879-gcbadc6d218 (34) 13:29:38 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.27-a0-878-g0090c0f (34) 13:41:59 "eg if you're good at recognising when you're about to be in a bad situation (but haven't been hit just yet)" I wonder if there's a way to despoiler this point for this mut somehow? 13:46:49 <12ebering> advil: could you update the trunk updates pin please? https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/mipgge/trunk_updates_2_april_2021/? 13:47:08 <05kate> well, it's not really a spoiler thing, just about being proactive about reading your scrolls before you take damage (if something nasty comes into view or you get teleported etc) 13:50:02 <05kate> there's no particular thresholds to know about, it's just about reacting early (which you can do unpenalised with -scroll mut but was less safe with blurryvis) 13:59:13 !source _is_damage_threatening 13:59:13 Can't find _is_damage_threatening. 13:59:21 !source ouch.cc:801 13:59:21 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/ouch.cc#L801 14:00:22 this is the specific thing that could be despoilered perhaps 14:00:46 so the thresholds would be 5% and 20% of your max hp 14:01:26 03sdynet02 {GitHub} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1864 * 0.27-a0-863-g54283af: Update crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/cards.txt 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/54283af45023 14:01:26 03sdynet02 {GitHub} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1864 * 0.27-a0-864-g4d549ab: Update crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/cards.txt 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4d549ab2a8e8 14:01:26 03sdynet02 {GitHub} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1864 * 0.27-a0-865-g9fbcf46: Update crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/cards.txt 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9fbcf46b8f63 14:01:26 03sdynet02 {GitHub} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1864 * 0.27-a0-866-g074dd33: Update crawl-ref/source/decks.cc 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/074dd339aa57 14:01:26 03sdynet02 {GitHub} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1864 * 0.27-a0-867-g9250a8a: Update crawl-ref/source/decks.cc 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9250a8a0fdff 14:01:26 03sdynet02 {GitHub} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1864 * 0.27-a0-868-gb172f53: Update crawl-ref/source/decks.cc 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b172f536e4d5 14:01:26 03sdynet02 {GitHub} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1864 * 0.27-a0-869-g0d65a67: Update crawl-ref/source/decks.cc 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0d65a67eaeb6 14:01:26 03sdynet02 {GitHub} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1864 * 0.27-a0-870-g5dd2e87: Update crawl-ref/source/decks.h 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5dd2e87a4041 14:02:14 I don't have very clear ideas how to convey this, it doesn't seem obvious how to pack that into the mut description (which just says "while threatened" iirc) 14:03:14 I guess one could add a parenthetical in the fakemut code that says something like "(possible > Nhp, certain > Mhp)" 14:03:51 not sure if the exact numbers help or not 14:19:38 <05kate> the mut description says that it comes into effect when you take damage 14:24:04 <05kate> i don't think giving those threshold numbers would be especially useful with there being so many levels of randomisation involved, could maybe word it as "when taking large amounts of damage" instead of just "when taking damage" or something along those lines? 15:54:52 Dj: You pick up a manual of Ice Magic and begin studying. 15:55:32 <12ebering> goodbug 15:55:44 <12ebering> do you actually learn ice magic? 15:55:57 <12ebering> or is it just a message? 15:58:30 -!- aidanh_ is now known as aidanh 16:06:25 03kate-02 07* 0.27-a0-880-gbac1ddb: Adjust some artefact autoinscriptions 10(36 minutes ago, 5 files, 7+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bac1ddba9078 16:06:25 03kate-02 07* 0.27-a0-881-g90918d6: Don't make Yredelemnul forbid statue form 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/90918d6062c3 16:12:56 <10PleasingFungus> oops 16:12:58 <10PleasingFungus> fairly sure that'd just be a message bug 16:17:27 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-881-g90918d6062 (34) 16:21:08 !lg nikheizen x=ktyp,kaux,cikiller mu tomb 16:21:09 1. [ktyp=wild magic;kaux=set off by their pet;cikiller=] nikheizen the Green Death (L27 MuIE of Fedhas), killed by set off by their pet on Tomb:2 (tomb_2) on 2020-12-11 11:08:40, with 1210918 points after 144153 turns and 9:53:39. 16:21:21 weird death description there 17:04:17 ebering, just a message. And another one: 17:04:21 Dj: The power of Zot is invoked against you! 17:04:21 You suddenly feel drained of magical energy! 17:17:52 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-882-g955cc88: Gnerf gweapons (split) 10(38 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/955cc887ef3e 17:24:22 <12ebering> Some design thoughts on Yredelemnul 17:24:22 <12ebering> https://github.com/crawl/crawl/wiki/Rekindle-the-Black-Torch-(a-new-Yredelemnul) 17:24:30 <12ebering> Not sure if I'll have energy this version, but this fleshes out an approach to an alternate piety system for yred 17:28:27 <10PleasingFungus> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747522859361894521/827655742533926922/7e41ecd9-8875-4765-a9a9-372f948b5ad7.png 17:31:58 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-882-g955cc887ef (34) 17:49:04 03kate-02 07* 0.27-a0-883-g39567a0: Give player ghosts the correct hands and feet 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/39567a0c06c5 17:55:35 <05kate> i just played a yred faded altar game and passive reaping was definitely one of the first things that came to mind, i think it'd be an improvement over active animate dead even if there's no other big rework 17:55:44 <05kate> although the thing to think about there is how to handle cases where the zombie has equipment you want 17:56:34 <05kate> (obviously you can just attack it but that's a hassle, as is checking every corpse before animating though) 18:01:55 <05kate> i like the alternative piety concept but i do think it would still need something for non-living branches, currently enslave soul has the neat case of being able to be used on demons but if you need a zombie army to do that then it becomes a bit meaningless 18:02:02 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-883-g39567a0c06 (34) 18:03:31 <05kate> (also enslaved souls at the moment are just really squishy a lot of the time, that could be changed regardless though, derived undead are just weird and messy) 18:19:17 No asterisk near Drain: "It is wielding a +0 long sword and wearing the ring "Xapleic" {Drain rElec MP+9 Str+7 Stlth+}" 18:22:59 <05kate> %git bac1ddb 18:22:59 <04Cerebot> kate- * 0.27-a0-880-gbac1ddb: Adjust some artefact autoinscriptions (3 hours ago, 5 files, 7+ 7-) https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bac1ddba9078 18:23:34 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.27-a0-883-g39567a0c06 (34) 18:24:47 <05kate> i guess could introduce a new symbol prefix for drain/contam/fragile but i don't know that it's especially needed 18:35:02 Actually, there are no asterisk at all on this ring. 18:41:28 Artefact with Drain property lost its asterisk in description. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=12554 by Yermak 19:31:55 <08nicolae> idea: > 4* Drain Life. This doesn't fit as well with the zombie/allies/sombie powered allies and maybe there's something better to put here. Moderate zombie cost. some of your zombie allies in LOS kerplode in a burst of evil energies, dealing damage and channeling health back to you 21:30:45 Staff of Wucad Mu isn't greyed out for Dj. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=12555 by Yermak 21:41:49 03kate-02 07* 0.27-a0-884-g2be9358: Rebrace 10(34 minutes ago, 16 files, 49+ 28-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2be9358107e7 21:41:49 03kate-02 07* 0.27-a0-885-g35c287b: Update a check for whether a monster has a body 10(32 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/35c287b088ba 21:47:30 Dj: messaging needs to be special-cased. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=12556 by Yermak 21:48:19 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-885-g35c287b088 (34) 23:18:37 <08nicolae> has anybody ever noticed that grunt_snake_run_serpentinethrone features a KFEAT: A for altars but doesn't have any A glyphs but does have a `` glyph 23:53:13 @ebering s/nightlines/sightlines on your yred thing 23:57:51 nicolae, detonating zombies seems like a pretty cool active ability 23:58:09 detonating distant ones, consuming adjacent ones