00:03:41 <10PleasingFungus> the relevant bit is lurking somewhere around mon-place.cc:541, but i'm not sure you have enough information by the time you reach that line and you definitely don't have enough information in the called function 00:17:51 03ebering02 {PleasingFungus} 07* 0.27-a0-620-g9a45c12: Move desolation humans to 'a' 10(6 days ago, 1 file, 40+ 39-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9a45c12a6164 00:17:51 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-621-g48f24ef: WIP Vaults:5 re-layout 10(13 days ago, 1 file, 86+ 66-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/48f24ef436ae 00:17:51 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-622-g2c6b445: First pass on new V:1-4 spawn tables 10(13 days ago, 1 file, 37+ 25-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2c6b4450c081 00:17:51 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-623-g1fe5a25: Add peacekeepers to Vaults 10(13 days ago, 4 files, 17+ 14-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1fe5a257b9b0 00:17:51 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-624-g262705b: Remove basic centaurs from Vaults 10(13 days ago, 2 files, 15+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/262705bbc81b 00:17:51 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-625-g29c3982: Remove chaff orcs from Vaults 10(13 days ago, 2 files, 12+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/29c3982eda06 00:17:51 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-626-g08f024a: Add lindwurm bands to Vaults 10(13 days ago, 3 files, 10+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/08f024a8fe49 00:17:51 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-627-gc5cd5cf: Add dire elephant bands to Vaults 10(13 days ago, 3 files, 13+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c5cd5cfaf19b 00:17:51 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-628-g0b001ba: Vaults monsters reworks! 10(13 days ago, 31 files, 398+ 99-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0b001bae9858 00:17:51 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-629-gcffcca8: Reduce Vaults spawns 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cffcca8328aa 00:18:14 Branch pull/1793 updated to be equal with master: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1793 00:20:47 <12ebering> @PleasingFungus aaaah you didn’t recover from my force push? 00:21:11 <10PleasingFungus> what force push 00:21:39 <12ebering> Oh I see it’s a big squash? 00:21:56 <12ebering> I had force pushed to the branch after rebasing 00:22:03 <10PleasingFungus> i squashed a bunch of stuff in, yes 00:22:08 <10PleasingFungus> hopefully didn't miss anything 00:22:11 <12ebering> On Tuesday 00:22:18 <10PleasingFungus> fairly sure i rebased after that 00:22:23 <12ebering> Well I can diff against the remote 00:22:36 <10PleasingFungus> %git 60dbddd26e 00:22:36 <04Cerebot> PleasingFungus * 0.27-a0-538-g60dbddd: Remove ogre humans (4 days ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/60dbddd26e6c 00:22:47 <10PleasingFungus> this is where i was when i started this evening, i think 00:22:57 <10PleasingFungus> https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commits/60dbddd26e anything missing from here? 00:23:14 <10PleasingFungus> it has commits from march 7, which is earlier than tuesday 00:23:41 <10PleasingFungus> so probably i did lose something... sorry... 00:23:45 <12ebering> Yes I think so 00:23:49 <10PleasingFungus> let me see if i can find them 00:25:15 <10PleasingFungus> i don't see anything in crawl-dev 00:25:15 <10PleasingFungus> are you sure you pushed it? 00:25:15 <10PleasingFungus> the only commits i can see from you this week are on master 00:25:48 <12ebering> Yeah you’re missing M_FORCE_BAND 00:25:53 <10PleasingFungus> hrm 00:25:59 <10PleasingFungus> that does seem relevant 00:26:00 <12ebering> Pretty sure I pushed it 00:26:14 <10PleasingFungus> can you just cherry-pick it from your local branch? 00:27:06 <10PleasingFungus> ah ha, i found it 00:27:24 <10PleasingFungus> 211524ae5fc4 and f2fed20c9fb8 00:27:59 %git 907181b64db01 00:27:59 07PleasingFungus02 {ebering} * 0.27-a0-597-g907181b: Reduce Vaults spawns 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/907181b64db0 00:28:15 this is the head of my branch 00:28:54 03ebering02 {PleasingFungus} 07* 0.27-a0-630-gdf28dd9: New monster class flag: M_REQUIRE_BAND 10(4 days ago, 4 files, 12+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/df28dd9bf2f1 00:29:34 Did you just rebase or did yyou also make changes? 00:29:34 if it's the former I can rebase this and re force-push and end this horrible forece push war 00:29:41 <10PleasingFungus> i made a whole pile of changes 00:29:44 <10PleasingFungus> renamed everything 00:29:51 <10PleasingFungus> added sprites 00:29:55 <10PleasingFungus> mostly just those really 00:30:06 and stole my commit authorships in the history! 00:30:08 <10PleasingFungus> also i would request that you please do not force push on master 00:30:09 <10PleasingFungus> lol 00:30:14 <10PleasingFungus> the world is cruel 00:30:23 <10PleasingFungus> you can steal my commits next time 00:30:38 oh, you merged 00:30:43 <10PleasingFungus> i did 00:31:43 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-631-g2d681ad: Impart the importance of friendship 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2d681adce07a 00:32:22 are you going to add M_REQUIRE_BAND to beastmasters or should I? 00:32:22 oh, there it is 00:32:22 <10PleasingFungus> was just building objstat 00:32:23 <10PleasingFungus> wanted to make sure it actually worked 00:32:35 <10PleasingFungus> anything else that we should try to salvage? (sorry again for the mess) 00:35:39 <10PleasingFungus> hm 00:35:43 <10PleasingFungus> looks like they are spawning in vaults 00:36:16 <10PleasingFungus> maybe it's with bands 00:36:17 <10PleasingFungus> that'd be nice 00:39:52 ok I've got this set up to difff with master 00:39:53 <10PleasingFungus> spent a bit testing and only found non-lonely beastmasters 00:44:19 <10PleasingFungus> i'm going to bed for now; let me know if there are any other issues 00:44:27 <12ebering> ok 00:47:20 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-630-gdf28dd9bf2 (34) 01:02:09 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-631-g2d681adce0 (34) 01:14:36 03ebering02 07* 0.27-a0-632-g6becf14: Text tweaks for beastmasters 10(75 seconds ago, 3 files, 5+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6becf1495a39 01:17:08 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-632-g6becf1495a (34) 01:23:09 03ebering02 07* 0.27-a0-633-gc6addc0: Reduce Ash skill boost 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c6addc0a4038 01:31:53 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-633-gc6addc0a40 (34) 01:35:26 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.27-a0-633-gc6addc0a40 (34) 01:56:02 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.27-a0-633-gc6addc0a40 02:49:18 Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.27-a0-633-gc6addc0a40 (34) 02:53:59 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.27-a0-633-gc6addc0a40 03:36:28 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-3997-g8c4bdc5f1a 03:52:17 Fork (bcadrencrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.03-183-g4c9902c242 03:53:48 w00t! 04:16:42 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 11:15:39 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-634-ge79d73b: Simplify 10(65 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e79d73bdd158 11:15:39 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-635-g7536a34: Preemptively tune quicksilver oozes down 10(62 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7536a348d89b 11:15:39 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-636-g56d34f7: Thunderhulks are ogre 10(47 seconds ago, 5 files, 15+ 16-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/56d34f704d0a 11:41:06 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-636-g56d34f704d (34) 12:30:22 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.27-a0-636-g56d34f7 (34) 13:00:09 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 13:36:56 -!- turin is now known as thurin 15:54:58 <|amethyst> hm, is there a reason ^O doesn't show faded altars, or is that just an oversight? 15:55:47 <10PleasingFungus> Not sure! (I say, helpfully) 15:56:02 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-637-g3a9f0a9: Flip thunderhulk tile lightning (lici) 10(85 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3a9f0a9c125c 15:56:41 oversight might count as a reason (also helpful) 16:02:30 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-637-g3a9f0a9c12 (34) 16:08:20 04Build failed for 08master @ 3a9f0a9c 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/649863319 16:08:46 <|amethyst> also, I know Trog doesn't exactly need a buff, but I was kind of thinking about zeroing out magic skills and granting extra piety when joining, � la Ru's sacrifices 16:08:57 <|amethyst> so someone convince me that is a bad idea 16:09:49 <|amethyst> (vaguely related, since encountering a faded altar as a MfIE is what brought it to mind) 16:21:03 <10PleasingFungus> something about extra complexity 16:21:10 <10PleasingFungus> it is fun to encourage people to take ecu altars 16:27:24 it's a little weird to let you turn skill xp into piety when it's not actually a permanent sacrifice like ru 16:28:24 not that it'd be like, a good choice to actively train magic skills in advance or anything like that, but it's still not quite the same i guess 16:40:45 <|amethyst> it's not permanent, but if you get to a place where you can safely train magic again, you have given up all the benefits of the sacrifice 16:43:21 you can add a cool "renounce your malignant magical ways?" to the flavor text for joining at the altar 17:14:47 <10PleasingFungus> malignant is a big word for trog 🙂 17:17:33 well, conan knew how to say "lamentations"! 17:18:24 but maybe that was his one big word 17:18:24 ever had a family member who leaned hard on "plethora"? 17:19:48 <10PleasingFungus> my father preferred ‘plethorax’ 17:19:58 <10PleasingFungus> which isn’t a word, but should be 17:20:43 huh. 17:21:49 also, oof - just checked conan quotes on goodreads - i don't see "malignant", and it seems like Howard denoted bad things by calling them "black" 17:21:51 :-\ 17:22:00 not sure how much Trog is based on Crom though 17:28:03 <10PleasingFungus> rip 17:30:30 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 17:31:10 <08Lasty> Please, my father was Mr. Plethorax. I'm just Nick. Nick Plethorax. 17:33:42 is is a plethorax several plethora glued together? 17:34:02 <10PleasingFungus> i believe it was a plethora of thoraxes 17:34:04 <08Lasty> it's not permanent, but if you get to a place where you can safely train magic again, you have given up all the benefits of the sacrifice -- I think this is incorrect, since you could have Trog gifts and also Trog's help surviving 17:34:13 <10PleasingFungus> well 17:34:19 <10PleasingFungus> and then trog trying to murder you for a long time 17:35:53 <08Lasty> true, and Trog is good at murdering. But still, it's not true that you lose all the benefits of having worshipped Trog, even if they may be offset by wrath (or more than offset, if it kills you) 17:36:51 <08Lasty> I think this is an iffy path to head down tho. Would we zero/gift Stealth for Qaz worshippers? 17:37:05 <08Lasty> zero/gift Invo for no-Invo gods? 17:37:36 <10PleasingFungus> reasonable questions 17:37:50 trade in 3 haste potions NOW for a free star with Chei! 17:39:23 refunds for magic skills might make Nem choices that pair melee species with magic backgrounds a bit less of a challenge 18:18:03 If Trog needed a sacrifice, then burning your magic library would be more thematic. 18:23:30 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.27-a0-637-g3a9f0a9c12 (34) 18:30:08 <10PleasingFungus> that has dubious gameplay implications, i think 18:32:21 <08nicolae> if you join trog with any magic skills, you get thanked for turning your back on evil 18:33:09 <08Lasty> and then you crush a beer can on your head 18:41:41 <|amethyst> " and then you crush a beer can on your head" lolol 18:42:58 <08nicolae> YES 19:49:12 Shafted into a transporter vault 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=12537 by MainiacJoe 20:13:01 New branch created: pull/1826 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1826 20:13:01 03Aliscans02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1826 * 0.27-a0-638-g8331692: Sort items in a shop in a more predictable order when using ORDER_DEFAULT. 10(19 minutes ago, 1 file, 19+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/83316923c520 21:53:52 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy