00:18:52 <gammafunk> snark fixed that updating, but maybe it's fallen behind again?
01:04:48 <Gretell> Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.26.1-2-gb8aa6d0cf2 (34)
01:34:33 <Gretell> Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.27-a0-287-gd4424db430 (34)
01:40:29 -!- Tiobot is now known as Guest89300
01:55:34 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.27-a0-287-gd4424db430
02:48:02 <Cbrotell> Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.27-a0-287-gd4424db430 (34)
02:54:01 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.27-a0-287-gd4424db430
03:20:29 <Cbrotell> Stable (0.26) branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.26.1-2-gb8aa6d0cf2
03:46:02 <Kelbell> Stable (0.26) branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.26.1-2-gb8aa6d0cf2
04:01:30 <Kelbell> Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-3916-g666d9ae327
04:02:33 <Kelbell> Fork (bcadrencrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.03-122-gdb00fd69f8
05:26:55 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
08:50:29 <advil> re !source, in this case the functions I was checking were quite old, so I wonder if it has lost its function index altogether somehow
09:47:20 <gammafunk> ah, that may be
09:54:25 <MainiacJoe> I would like to become more involved in development.  Thus far I have one arrival vault and the 0.26 Ar starting kit change.
09:56:23 <MainiacJoe> Are there particular kinds of vaults that are needed?  Or another way I could help without a huge time commitment?
11:17:13 <ebering> !tell ManiacJoe gammafunk probably has the best idea of where we need more vaults, but the best vaults are the ones you've got a good idea for
11:17:13 <Sequell> Sorry ebering, I don't know who maniacjoe is.
11:17:25 <ebering> !tell MainiacJoe gammafunk probably has the best idea of where we need more vaults, but the best vaults are the ones you've got a good idea for
11:17:25 <Sequell> ebering: OK, I'll let mainiacjoe know.
11:20:44 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> people talk about lair branches wanting more vaults, esp spider and snake maybe?
11:25:20 <MainiacJoe> My credits.txt name is Joe Childers. Ebering sent me here a few months ago to get advice on a PR idea I had.
11:25:20 <Sequell> MainiacJoe: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it.
11:25:20 <MainiacJoe> !messages
11:25:20 <Sequell> (1/1) ebering said (7m 36s ago): gammafunk probably has the best idea of where we need more vaults, but the best vaults are the ones you've got a good idea for
11:25:37 <ebering> !tell MainiacJoe Another good way to help, if you're comfortable with the code side of things, is bugfixing (see both mantis and github) each bug is a reasonable mini project
11:25:38 <Sequell> ebering: OK, I'll let mainiacjoe know.
11:26:02 <ebering> !tell MainiacJoe on the gameplay side, unrand reworks are good small projects
11:26:03 <Sequell> ebering: OK, I'll let mainiacjoe know.
11:26:13 <ebering> !learn e plan s/26/27/
11:26:13 <Sequell> Use: !learn edit plan[NUM] s/<search>/<repl>/
11:26:18 <MainiacJoe> Thank you.  I don't know lua (yet)
11:26:18 <Sequell> MainiacJoe: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them.
11:26:24 <MainiacJoe> !messages
11:26:24 <Sequell> (1/2) ebering said (46s ago): Another good way to help, if you're comfortable with the code side of things, is bugfixing (see both mantis and github) each bug is a reasonable mini project
11:26:26 <ebering> !learn e plan[1 s/26/27/
11:26:27 <Sequell> No change: regex `26` does not match `https://github.com/crawl/crawl/wiki/0.27-Development-and-Release-Plan`
11:26:33 <ebering> oh, already done
11:26:53 <ebering> well, bugfixing requires editing the C++
11:27:10 <ebering> vaults don't require lua unless you're doing something very fancy
11:27:10 <MainiacJoe> Unrand reworks and vaults sound like things I can handle.  Not bugfixes, I have no C++
11:27:22 <ebering> well, urand reworks require c++
11:27:29 <ebering> their behavior is written in the main codebase
11:27:47 <MainiacJoe> Okay, no C++ lol.
11:27:54 <ebering> also good: new or revised descriptions, monster dialog, quotes
11:28:17 <MainiacJoe> I have a few dozen vault maps that need header code.  Is a pastebin the best way to get feedback on these?
11:28:32 <MainiacJoe> both coding feedback and appropriateness feedback
11:28:47 <ebering> just open a PR
11:28:59 <ebering> the github web ui allows in-line commenting, feedback, and suggestions which is nice
11:29:26 <ebering> also see my feedback on amcnickey's prs if you want to get a vibe
11:31:45 <MainiacJoe> I'll search for amcnickey's PRs
11:34:22 <MainiacJoe> Found them, thank you.
11:34:39 <MainiacJoe> First batch are arrival vaults that have a guaranteed pillar in them.
11:35:02 <MainiacJoe> Second batch are unaligned overflow vaults that are closets with a single downstair
11:40:07 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[cursor_optimization] * 0.27-a0-296-g13e313d: Recolour weapon/armour egos 10(4 minutes ago, 2 files, 15+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/13e313df299a
11:40:33 <Cheibriados> Branch pull/1723 updated to be equal with cursor_optimization: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1723
11:47:56 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[cursor_optimization] * 0.27-a0-297-gfd52637: Damage the fury of Okawaru 10(22 seconds ago, 2 files, 14+ 14-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fd526376c48f
11:48:21 <Cheibriados> Branch pull/1723 updated to be equal with cursor_optimization: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1723
11:48:47 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[cursor_optimization] * 0.27-a0-298-g7cf4d59: Remove an inaccurate hint 10(20 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7cf4d59faf5b
11:49:13 <Cheibriados> Branch pull/1723 updated to be equal with cursor_optimization: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1723
11:57:26 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[cursor_optimization] * 0.27-a0-299-g4518684: Simplify curse compatibility 10(19 seconds ago, 2 files, 14+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4518684999e7
11:57:52 <Cheibriados> Branch pull/1723 updated to be equal with cursor_optimization: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1723
12:05:37 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[cursor_optimization] * 0.27-a0-300-g53a8099: Remove very bad weapons (ebering) 10(33 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/53a8099bef9c
12:06:01 <Cheibriados> Branch pull/1723 updated to be equal with cursor_optimization: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1723
12:10:57 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[cursor_optimization] * 0.27-a0-301-gc05029c: Remove more bad things 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c05029c9e2c7
12:11:22 <Cheibriados> Branch pull/1723 updated to be equal with cursor_optimization: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1723
12:30:31 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.27-a0-287-gd4424db (34)
12:32:02 <MainiacJoe> I need help finding the dat/des/arrival folder in Linux to test arrival vaults with.  New to Linux (Chromebook); tiles.  I know how to find the folder in Windows zips.  I've found the .crawl folder and usr/games/crawl-tiles launch script, and the lua files in .crawl/saves, but not the .des filesbut
12:33:37 <Discord|> <12e​bering> Are you working from the git repo, or from an install?
12:34:46 <ebering> also when you say Linux (Chromebook) do you mean ChromeOS? Can that even use a terminal or run git or a compiler?
12:34:46 <Pinkbeast> "locate twisted.des" should find it, but I have one in /usr/share/crawl/dat/des/arrival/twisted.des besides half a dozen source trees
13:13:24 <MainiacJoe> I am using a Chromebook and its "enable Linux" option.  It's Debian I think.  I tried the 'find' command but not 'locate'
13:13:55 <Pinkbeast> Well, what does "locate" tell you?
13:15:16 <MainiacJoe> it's an unrecognized command.  'find' couldn't find either the arrival folder nor twisted.des.  But I'm going to look in that folder tree in usr/share
13:16:44 <Pinkbeast> "mlocate" is the package with it, assuming systemd doesn't now do it worse
13:17:14 <Discord|> <12e​bering> ManiacJoe: I highly recommend working from the git repo
13:17:24 <Pinkbeast> I'm running Debian here so if you've got Crawl from a Debian package (you should answer ebering's question) it's probably there
13:17:29 <MainiacJoe> Yes I found the des files, in usr/share/crawl, and opened them with VIM.  Didn't expect it in /share/ but now I know
13:18:07 <Discord|> <12e​bering> it's got a bit of a learning curve and set-up, but it will make merging/editing your changes immensely easier
13:18:37 <Discord|> <12e​bering> also it will make answering these questions quick and direct, instead of requiring follow-up questions and further searching
13:18:59 <MainiacJoe> I used Git Desktop a little bit on my Windows laptop and it was a bit mysterious to me.  But I've been given some pointers on the dcss subreddit and know I need to learn it, and not just for Crawl
13:19:50 <MainiacJoe> Can I test the vaults with wizmode via git?  I'd expected to test vaults by editing local des files (I don't play online) and then figuring out Git to do teh pull request
13:21:03 <Discord|> <12e​bering> https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/docs/develop/git/quickstart.txt
13:22:24 <MainiacJoe> Ooohhh, thank you.  I'll digest this and get back with you all.  Thank you for your help and patience
13:22:50 <Discord|> <12e​bering> see also the rest of docs/develop
13:22:57 <Discord|> <12e​bering> (don't read it all in one go, there's a lot and some of its old)
15:28:49 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07* 0.27-a0-288-gdaa8bd6: Quiet down storm clouds 10(21 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 17-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/daa8bd6ff35f
15:32:15 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-288-gdaa8bd6ff3 (34)
15:36:22 <Discord|> <03w​heals> for what it's worth, the history was more that qazlal followers were extremely loud (because of storm clouds), and then based on that grunt gave qazlal an official noise conduct
15:36:51 <Discord|> <03w​heals> though this change is totally reasonable, it's good that the noise will actually scale with piety a bit now
15:38:58 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.27-a0-289-g715ed11: Don't allow delver-zapped uniques to regenerate 10(24 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/715ed11b3178
15:38:58 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.27-a0-290-gb28db10: Skip elven twin stuff on dismissal/reset 10(19 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b28db10d6f92
15:38:58 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.27-a0-291-gd9602db: Skip some unique fineff messaging on turn 0 (12346) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d9602db6ee18
15:47:15 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-291-gd9602db6ee (34)
16:04:36 <gammafunk> good...bug number?
16:05:03 <gammafunk> oh it's not 123456, never mind
16:05:21 <gammafunk> almost 12345, which would have been great as well
16:12:07 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> @advil ty for great zapping (:
16:42:49 <Cheibriados> New branch created: pull/1730 (2 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1730
16:42:50 <Cheibriados> 03dragon2970802 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1730 * 0.27-a0-167-g8bec0ca: test commit 10(7 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8bec0ca3d1c8
16:42:50 <Cheibriados> 03Andrew02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1730 * 0.27-a0-168-g7636947: remove test comment 10(13 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/763694736479
17:02:34 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> nice
17:02:35 -!- cjm_ is now known as cjm
17:36:44 -!- Vaevictu1 is now known as Vaevictus
18:01:23 <advil> what is this (: thing
18:01:50 <advil> btw, did we consider just moving the uniques elsewhere on the level instead of zapping them?
18:01:57 <advil> can't remember if there was some issue with that
18:02:08 <advil> I guess for D&D you'd want to move both of them
18:15:58 <nicolae_> i think taking out food made me better at the game, so thanks for that. also what kinda vaults y'all need
18:16:32 <nicolae_> i've already got a few overflow vaults, including a few ancient ones i never got around to submitting
18:22:25 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> @advil moving uniques + pals seems cool
18:22:28 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> lemures etc
18:22:44 <nicolae_> oh there's a discord bot :o what's the discord
18:23:32 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> nicolae_: i was told to ask @gammafunk about wanted vaults but i vaguely suspect s branch vaults are wanted
18:23:52 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> esp snake/spider maybe, tho you might have fun w new swamp mons
18:23:55 <nicolae_> it's been a minute, by s branches you mean the lair sub-branches that all start with s
18:23:58 <nicolae_> gotcha
18:24:04 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> except slime ya
18:24:08 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> sry
18:24:08 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.27-a0-291-gd9602db6ee (34)
18:24:17 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> join roguelikes discord and message me
18:24:30 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> and i’ll get you in to dev discord
18:24:45 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> as honorary vault dev
18:26:10 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> https://discord.gg/2tJFNNqK roguelike discord
18:27:39 <Discord|> <12p​atrickm> oh, fancy
18:28:47 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> honestly a lot of dev discussion is in the roguelike discord now
18:29:11 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> but this is cool
18:29:23 <Discord|> <12p​atrickm> i assume i will end up in the right spot eventually
18:29:27 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> sure
18:29:36 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> excited to see you back (:
18:29:45 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> check out new swamp!
18:33:09 <Discord|> <12p​atrickm> i should probably get some work done tonight before that but i will delve into swamp asap 🤔
19:07:37 <Discord|> <12p​atrickm> i have noticed one small thing that got changed that keeps messing me up... i keep trying to do a controlled teleport through the wizmode command and not from the level map screen
19:36:33 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> i do it by muscle memory
19:36:33 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> x&m, probably
19:39:00 <Discord|> <12p​atrickm> you don't even gotta hit a & at all! it's ctrl+x, then move the cursor, then shift+T
19:39:18 <Discord|> <12p​atrickm> i keep doing & and then remembering to hit ctrl+x and that just makes xom do something
19:41:17 <advil> there's `&B` and `&b`
19:42:35 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> many ways to bake a cakr
19:42:47 <advil> does seem a bit too many
19:45:22 <Discord|> <12p​atrickm> &B is perfect
19:45:32 <Discord|> <12p​atrickm> thank you advil, you've cured my headache
22:46:01 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[cursor_optimization] * 0.27-a0-302-g1aab77a: Re-add useless jewellery 10(19 seconds ago, 2 files, 18+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1aab77a7a433
22:46:27 <Cheibriados> Branch pull/1723 updated to be equal with cursor_optimization: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1723