00:38:06 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-153-gcb35160: Don't summon demonic guardians from poison 10(38 seconds ago, 1 file, 4+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cb3516073f50
00:47:07 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-154-g4e0205b: Simplify monster throwing/launcher AI 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 28-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4e0205b1fca8
00:47:43 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-153-gcb3516073f (34)
00:53:43 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-155-g177a798: Make monsters less throw-happy 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/177a798329cf
01:02:05 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-155-g177a798329 (34)
01:02:33 <Gretell> Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.26.0-45-g9c1d065592 (34)
01:07:34 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-156-gbcd94eb: Remove banana bunyips (hatsuma) 10(5 minutes ago, 3 files, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bcd94eb0113d
01:17:10 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-156-gbcd94eb011 (34)
01:34:29 <Gretell> Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.27-a0-156-gbcd94eb011 (34)
01:55:27 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.27-a0-156-gbcd94eb011
02:17:16 <Cbrotell> Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.27-a0-156-gbcd94eb011 (34)
02:45:13 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07* 0.27-a0-157-g832131d: Make trove entries transparent 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/832131d6acf5
02:47:03 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-157-g832131d6ac (34)
02:53:53 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.27-a0-157-g832131d6ac
03:32:50 <Cbrotell> Stable (0.26) branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.26.0-45-g9c1d065592
03:47:24 <Kelbell> Stable (0.26) branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.26.0-45-g9c1d065592
03:49:08 <Kelbell> Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-3859-ge9853cb0d6
04:34:56 <Cheibriados> New branch created: pull/1701 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1701
04:34:56 <Cheibriados> 03Goratrix02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1701 * 0.27-a0-158-ge4125b9: Replace travis build badge with github badge in README.md 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e4125b94145e
04:35:30 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
05:01:39 <Discord|> <03w​heals> @PleasingFungus the upshot of the ranged ai commits is that centaurs/yaktaurs/anything else with a launcher never approach you (and they can't even run out of ammo), is this intentional?
05:02:26 <Discord|> <03w​heals> specifically !liquefied && one_chance_in(master_archer ? 9 : 5) was the only thing that'd let centaurs sometimes approach you rather than firing
05:50:29 <Discord|> <12e​bering> @advil you can unpin: https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/knqi2k/026_crawl_combo_guide_contest/
05:50:45 <Discord|> <12e​bering> it ends with nothing because people are awful
06:22:03 <Discord|> <12e​bering> and perhaps pin https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/l62hdd/026_tournament_results_and_feedback_post/?
09:16:29 <advil> wow, that sucks about the combo contest
09:16:46 <advil> this is where having a working forum would be nice
09:16:56 <advil> *combo guide contest
09:26:04 <gammafunk> ebering: did people not submit any good entries? I guess I never actually wrote one
09:26:16 <gammafunk> and thanks for writing the tournament summary
09:27:29 <advil> there's a summary edited into the reddit post
09:27:49 <advil> much worse than that
09:28:02 <gammafunk> ah, gotcha, that figures
09:28:08 <gammafunk> and yeah, working forum would indeed be nice for that
09:36:17 <advil> re the ammo change, I also have questions
09:36:36 <advil> e.g. ammo quantity was used to balance monsters, but this doesn't seem to have been touched in the commit
09:39:52 <advil> also wondering about the impact on objstat
09:41:26 <advil> also probably creates another infinite  net scenario?
09:41:34 <advil> !source _give_ammo
09:41:35 <Sequell> Can't find _give_ammo.
09:42:05 <advil> !source mon-gear.cc:_give_ammo
09:42:05 <Sequell> Can't find mon-gear.cc:_give_ammo.
09:42:49 <advil> https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-gear.cc#L1335
09:43:07 <advil> is all the ammo quantity code
09:43:44 <advil> for some ammo types it affects only uniques (e.g. polyphemus gets extra rocks vs. stone giants/cyclops, which afaict both use the same, default distribution)
09:44:19 <advil> I guess probably the base chance of ammo vs no ammo do still apply though?
09:47:11 <advil> of course, who knows how impactful some of these minute differences were
09:47:18 <advil> but e.g. the master archer vs regular archer difference is somewhat collapsed now, and that probably did matter
09:47:38 <advil> (with regular archers now being stronger along the relevant dimension than prev. master archers?)
10:21:44 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> oops i misread that code
10:33:42 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> @advil i specifically exempted nets to avoid that issue
10:33:51 <advil> ah missed that
10:34:41 <advil> %git ed86a5fd003
10:34:41 <Cheibriados> 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.27-a0-121-ged86a5f: Make nets finite again 10(11 days ago, 3 files, 9+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ed86a5fd0030
10:34:48 <advil> was only looking at the first commit
10:34:53 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> i’m more or less restoring fire frequency now
10:35:05 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> totally misread that leda’s logic
10:35:24 <advil> yeah, I was wondering if old qty could convert to something like fire frequency?
10:35:26 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> big oops
10:35:53 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> mm, you could
10:36:41 <advil> leda's logic?
10:37:08 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> monsters picking up floor items complicates things
10:37:28 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> i’d rather try the flat 1/3 chance of throwing things for a bit
10:38:09 <advil> you may want to check specifically on master archers if you haven't, they have some special code that might (should?) interact with that
10:39:00 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> i accidentally deleted that earlier
10:39:00 <advil> lol
10:39:00 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> the leda’s logic i mentioned
10:39:00 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> fixing...
10:39:00 <advil> ahh I see
10:45:34 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-158-g36630e8: Partially restore monster ranged AI 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 20+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/36630e8e57dc
11:02:29 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-158-g36630e8e57 (34)
11:07:24 <advil> satyrs, naga sharpshooters also I think
11:09:09 <advil> man I still don't know why that logic involves two bits
11:09:09 <advil> wonder if some more uniques should get at least one of those bits, e.g. polyphemus, joseph, urug, (chuck)
11:09:09 <advil> right now it looks like vashnia is the only one that has them
11:10:41 <advil> oh, I guess the archer bit also gives a to-hit bonus
11:16:47 <Discord|> <12e​bering> @advil I've done a lot of cherry-picking to get ready for 0.26.1 but I haven't done any of the additional webtiles or console flicker stuff
11:17:25 <advil> ok, I can take a look at that
11:17:54 <advil> console is still basically unplayable for me over ssh unfortunately, the targeting flicker drove me crazy
11:18:14 <advil> current game will probably be my first ever tiles game (glyphs mode tho)
11:18:33 <advil> the widgetified targeting mode needs some kind of rewrite I think
11:25:15 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> @advil i wasn't trying to list everything, just a few examples (e.g., not i.e.)
11:27:35 <advil> fair
11:42:39 <Discord|> <03w​heals> right now joseph and urug are two of the few monsters that are significantly dangerous with both ranged and melee, so they definitely shouldn't get the master part of the archer flag
11:43:44 <Discord|> <03w​heals> they could get the regular flag though, i'm not one to object to a unique buff
11:48:37 <Yermak> Guys, could you prompt which crawl file contains default schemes for message channels?
12:07:04 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.27-a0-158-g36630e8 (34)
13:03:08 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07* 0.27-a0-159-g0faeb86: Don't look for clouds in the wrong places (12459) 10(13 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0faeb86a0160
13:04:26 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> looking for clouds / in all the wrong places
13:05:43 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07* 0.27-a0-160-g66c4918: Remove an inappropriate sanctuary check 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 20+ 21-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/66c491863679
13:17:50 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-160-g66c4918636 (34)
13:48:16 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07* 0.27-a0-161-gbd0f0ea: Make manuals useless for gnolls 10(25 minutes ago, 2 files, 9+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bd0f0ea6ffda
14:02:23 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07* 0.27-a0-162-g7828770: Hide Bows when a hand is sacrificed (12398) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/78287705fb54
14:02:59 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-161-gbd0f0ea6ff (34)
14:17:45 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-162-g78287705fb (34)
14:24:34 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07* 0.27-a0-163-ge9b1cf5: Don't hide Bows for one hand-paired ants 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e9b1cf51b553
14:30:55 <Yermak> FR: Since now you can train all skills and have them all show on 'm' screen I suggest each skill keeps its own letter forever - whether you max a skill, sacrifice it, or never have it on a given race - all skills below in the list don't change their letters.
14:32:56 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-163-ge9b1cf51b5 (34)
14:34:43 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> nice idea
14:36:41 <Yermak> Some people have only useful skills shown, I don't know what's better in this case.
14:37:12 <Pinkbeast> I think the trouble is if skill letters become fixed I learn finger bindings, then the set of skills changes, then misery
14:37:44 <Yermak> heh, that could happen
14:39:37 <Yermak> And another thing: if you use shift-letter on 'm' screen, you turn off all skills except but one - imo quite useful command, but you can't use it for skills that's on digits. I suggest making it work for those, too (it'd require changing binding for '!').
14:45:52 <Aliscans_> I don't think there's a portable way to find out what shift+2 does. It would be better to have a "select only this skill" key, so typing (say) -0 meant that you only train stealth (or whatever 0 is).
14:46:54 <geekosaur> there isn't
14:48:51 <geekosaur> that said there's already / -> shift
14:49:29 <geekosaur> so you could keep the existing behavior and add /1 etc.
14:49:43 <Aliscans_> / already does something in the skill menu, unfortunately.
14:54:47 <Ge0ff> Speaking about the skills menu, would it be possible to add a confirmation for `-` (erasing all skill targets)? `-` is too close to `=`, so it's easy to mistype.
14:58:17 <advil> probably doable, that's not the first time that's been requested
14:58:26 <advil> the skill menu code is a bit annoying to deal with though
15:00:42 <Pinkbeast> s/skill //;
15:07:43 <advil> well, one reason this is true is that the skill menu code uses an entirely different set of menu classes than regular menus
15:08:07 <advil> PrecisionMenu instead of Menu
15:32:06 <Yermak> %git 9a28b27fbb36bef1
15:32:06 <Cheibriados> Could not find commit 9a28b27fbb36bef1 (git returned 128)
15:32:15 <Yermak> %git 9a28b27fbb36
15:32:15 <Cheibriados> Could not find commit 9a28b27fbb36 (git returned 128)
15:32:18 <Yermak> oops
15:32:52 <Yermak> Anyway, there is double space in the description of spectral branded weapon from the last commit.
15:39:42 <Cheibriados> New branch created: pull/1705 (3 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1705
15:39:42 <Cheibriados> 03Hatsuma02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1705 * 0.27-a0-141-g00fd8eb: new bunyip sprite 10(20 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/00fd8ebcff8c
15:39:42 <Cheibriados> 03Hatsuma02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1705 * 0.27-a0-142-gd5036c8: no more teeth 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d5036c83fd0a
15:39:42 <Cheibriados> 03Hatsuma02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1705 * 0.27-a0-166-g6ea9f8a: fix merge conflict with the bunyip sprite 10(6 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6ea9f8a468f9
15:41:32 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07* 0.27-a0-164-gf9d094b: Don't leak stash info with Gozag gold detection (12413) 10(38 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f9d094ba9912
15:41:32 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07* 0.27-a0-165-g1f8c70d: Remove an unused parameter and simplify 10(4 minutes ago, 3 files, 4+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1f8c70d38dcf
15:41:32 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07* 0.27-a0-166-g13c09b7: Remove an extra space (Yermak) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/13c09b7e0e35
16:02:59 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-166-g13c09b7e0e (34)
16:31:01 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07* 0.27-a0-167-g36043c2: Adjust a misleading description (12374) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/36043c2b5fab
16:31:21 <Cheibriados> New branch created: pull/1706 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1706
16:31:21 <Cheibriados> 03AdamPG02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1706 * 0.27-a0-164-g5c86a2a: Prevent Ozocubu's Armour from breaking when equipping heavier armour 10(49 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5c86a2a01e9f
16:47:21 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-167-g36043c2b5f (34)
17:11:14 <Cheibriados> 03Goratrix02 {ebering} 07* 0.27-a0-168-ga1f732d: Replace travis build badge with github badge in README.md 10(13 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a1f732d4ef65
17:15:44 <Cheibriados> 03AdamPG02 {ebering} 07* 0.27-a0-169-gd3d0dda: Prevent Ozocubu's Armour from breaking when equipping heavier armour 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d3d0dda1a4a3
17:17:15 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-168-ga1f732d4ef (34)
17:32:23 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-169-gd3d0dda1a4 (34)
18:23:24 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.27-a0-169-gd3d0dda1a4 (34)
19:03:35 -!- ProzacElf_ is now known as ProzacElf
20:42:15 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
21:58:27 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-170-g607d9e9: Mention diggability on xv (hellmonk) 10(69 seconds ago, 1 file, 7+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/607d9e9d8595
22:02:16 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-170-g607d9e9d85 (34)