01:34:36 <Gretell> Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.27-a0-124-g19cb506db8 (34)
01:55:10 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.27-a0-124-g19cb506db8
02:47:48 <Cbrotell> Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.27-a0-124-g19cb506db8 (34)
02:53:47 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.27-a0-124-g19cb506db8
03:02:08 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 {ebering} 07[simplispectral] * 0.27-a0-125-g37ff1ca: Remove Evocation scaling from Spectral 10(2 days ago, 3 files, 7+ 17-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/37ff1ca61a8f
03:02:23 <Cheibriados> Branch pull/1698 updated to be equal with simplispectral: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1698
03:02:54 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 {ebering} 07* 0.27-a0-125-g37ff1ca: Remove Evocation scaling from Spectral 10(2 days ago, 3 files, 7+ 17-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/37ff1ca61a8f
03:12:22 <Cheibriados> 03kate-02 {ebering} 07[stone_soup-0.26] * 0.26.0-21-gfeeab47: Fix grammar in miscast descriptions 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/feeab476c9bc
03:12:22 <Cheibriados> 03kate-02 {ebering} 07[stone_soup-0.26] * 0.26.0-22-gf456a46: Update monster disintegrate description 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f456a46beef7
03:12:22 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07[stone_soup-0.26] * 0.26.0-23-ga803281: Fix monster tracers for Call Down Damnation 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 5+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a80328109403
03:12:22 <Cheibriados> 03wheals02 {ebering} 07[stone_soup-0.26] * 0.26.0-24-g0345ae0: Quiet down Irradiate (#12446) 10(11 days ago, 2 files, 1+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0345ae051eb4
03:12:22 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07[stone_soup-0.26] * 0.26.0-25-g032e4c1: Don't offer conjured things god blessings 10(11 days ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/032e4c147cd5
03:12:22 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07[stone_soup-0.26] * 0.26.0-26-gfefa33c: Simplify Tornado interactions with distance movement 10(11 days ago, 7 files, 14+ 49-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fefa33c2921e
03:12:22 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07[stone_soup-0.26] * 0.26.0-27-gdf8f168: Adjust the charging of Majin-Bo's hp cost 10(11 days ago, 1 file, 32+ 27-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/df8f168008c8
03:12:22 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07[stone_soup-0.26] * 0.26.0-28-g157097f: Fix a tension check for runic seals (8085, 10542) 10(11 days ago, 1 file, 10+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/157097f4cc6e
03:12:22 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07[stone_soup-0.26] * 0.26.0-29-g13447ed: Don't update constriction when testing door seals 10(11 days ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/13447edb916c
03:12:22 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07[stone_soup-0.26] * 0.26.0-30-gab513b7: Prevent trampling a constricted actor (12432) 10(11 days ago, 1 file, 15+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ab513b7fc706
03:12:22 <Cheibriados> ... and 11 more commits
03:12:52 <Discord|> <12e​bering> Did a round of cherry picking; mostly bugfixes and ui polish but there are a few balance tweaks that I think would be important to keep in 0.26.1 for players who base competitions on stable or just prefer the stable experience: the big one being the net trap nerf
03:17:08 <Bcadren> Not really a bug I can bug report; but I was thinking about this thing that bothers me a little. In a lot of the older more flavourful vaults that have unique lua-sent messages just assume you can hear and smell and don't check it. "You hear a click, the portcullis falls with a crash!" etc. (I think y'all might have disabled that specific one; but
03:17:09 <Bcadren> there's a fair amount of them. Here's one "You hear the creaking of ancient metal!" (the callback when the statues turn into Iron Golems in that one Dis vault).
03:44:54 <Kelbell> Stable (0.26) branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.26.0-41-g79a4fc7684
03:47:27 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-125-g37ff1ca61a (34)
03:51:05 <Kelbell> Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-3859-ge9853cb0d6
03:54:10 <Kelbell> Fork (bcadrencrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.03-102-gb1364c2871
04:10:43 <Cheibriados> 03ukdong9902 {ebering} 07* 0.27-a0-126-g405e40d: Mark an assuary enterance as transparet 2 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/405e40da7acd
04:34:21 <Discord|> <03w​heals> @ebering are you looking at hellmonk's t2 mut PR still? my inclination is to merge (i've rebased it locally and cleaned up the history), the only change I want to make is have malevolent magic apply only to spells and wands and clarify that in the description (right now it also applies to unrands, xom's spells, and the damnation ability)
04:34:42 <Discord|> <12e​bering> @wheals I haven't had a chance to look at it in detail yet, just promised to do so for 0.27
04:34:47 <Discord|> <12e​bering> so if you've got it going, go for it!
04:34:59 <Discord|> <12e​bering> I think hellmonk maybe had some further commentary, but that can land in future prs
04:43:11 <Cheibriados> 03wheals02 07* 0.27-a0-127-g8aa0e2c: The future 10(11 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8aa0e2c87f60
04:48:46 <gammafunk> wait, it's 2021?!
04:52:52 <Cheibriados> 03hellmonk02 {wheals} 07* 0.27-a0-128-g2d7ca50: Reorder the mana link facet. 10(5 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2d7ca500d898
04:52:52 <Cheibriados> 03hellmonk02 {wheals} 07* 0.27-a0-129-g7c3aafa: Rework the foul stench facet. 10(5 months ago, 4 files, 10+ 12-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7c3aafa79075
04:52:52 <Cheibriados> 03hellmonk02 {wheals} 07* 0.27-a0-130-g93b95dc: Rework Spiny. 10(5 months ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/93b95dc60dab
04:52:52 <Cheibriados> 03hellmonk02 {wheals} 07* 0.27-a0-131-g9e10844: Rework Ignite Blood. 10(5 months ago, 4 files, 18+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9e1084482333
04:52:52 <Cheibriados> 03hellmonk02 {wheals} 07* 0.27-a0-132-g5fc3651: Rework Demonic Guardian. 10(5 months ago, 3 files, 36+ 25-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5fc36510a557
04:52:52 <Cheibriados> 03hellmonk02 {wheals} 07* 0.27-a0-133-geb50e5d: Revisit the spiny damage formula. 10(5 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/eb50e5d1e386
04:52:52 <Cheibriados> 03hellmonk02 {wheals} 07* 0.27-a0-134-g5cca49f: Remove convection. 10(5 months ago, 1 file, 0+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5cca49f90c87
04:52:52 <Cheibriados> 03hellmonk02 {wheals} 07* 0.27-a0-135-gafa7a0f: Adjust the icemail facet. 10(4 months ago, 9 files, 57+ 12-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/afa7a0f0febb
04:52:52 <Cheibriados> 03hellmonk02 {wheals} 07* 0.27-a0-136-gb44e02e: New tier 2 demonspawn facet, malevolent magic. 10(4 months ago, 5 files, 47+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b44e02ef2821
04:52:52 <Cheibriados> 03hellmonk02 {wheals} 07* 0.27-a0-137-gef21787: Properly handle elemental and cloud producing facets. 10(4 months ago, 1 file, 9+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ef21787582e5
04:52:52 <Cheibriados> ... and 2 more commits
05:04:59 <dcss-ci> 04Build failed for 08master @ 8898b9ca 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/509002201
05:06:57 <Discord|> <03w​heals> doh
05:09:05 <Discord|> <12e​bering> willpower change rip
05:16:51 <Cheibriados> 03wheals02 07* 0.27-a0-140-gaa1b0a6: Fix the build (doh) 10(24 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/aa1b0a69e5aa
05:33:24 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
06:18:40 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-140-gaa1b0a69e5 (34)
10:15:23 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> it’s about time we entered the future
10:15:58 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> for too long have we cowered in the present!
10:45:23 <krator44> hey guys just wanted.. uh
10:45:43 <krator44> just wanted to note some of the kjv quotes are incorrect
10:46:02 <krator44> for example
10:46:05 <krator44> https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/quotes.txt#L127
10:47:04 <krator44> should be acts 17:22-23
10:47:43 <Pinkbeast> Dump 'em all in a github issue?
10:48:30 <krator44> yea i could do that
10:49:27 <krator44> another one
10:49:29 <krator44> https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/quotes.txt#L2032
10:49:45 <krator44> should be genesis 19:24-26
10:50:01 <krator44> anyway i'll see if i can do that
11:38:24 <krator44> can i have a bugtracker account?
11:41:18 <Discord|> <12e​bering> I'm not sure who currently has permissions to create new mantis accounts; we've had issues with old software + spam bots. a github issue is equally welcome
11:41:47 <krator44> all right
11:42:14 <Discord|> <12e​bering> we haven't made the formal decision to switch because of migration headaches + loss of history so we're just using both in parallel right now
12:03:43 <krator44> https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/quotes.txt#L561
12:03:48 <krator44> another one
12:04:01 <krator44> should be judges 16:27-30 but it skips 29
12:05:15 <krator44> do you typically note if it skips
12:05:26 <krator44> i guess its fine as 27-30
12:06:11 <krator44> you could even just say judges 16
12:15:27 <krator44> i'm gonna make a note of it so you can look at this
12:16:06 <Discord|> <12e​bering> Please do!
12:18:30 <krator44> all right
12:23:17 <krator44> some of those are indented inconsistently as well
12:29:43 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.27-a0-140-gaa1b0a6 (34)
12:48:30 <krator44> https://github.com/crawl/crawl/issues/1700
13:44:07 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07[monster-spell-overhaul] * 0.27-a0-105-gd749995: New Lich spellbook 10(2 hours ago, 2 files, 6+ 43-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d74999536d9c
13:44:07 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07[monster-spell-overhaul] * 0.27-a0-106-g07ce3ae: New Monster: Dread Lich 10(34 minutes ago, 27 files, 135+ 86-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/07ce3ae5d223
13:44:25 <Cheibriados> Branch pull/1689 updated to be equal with monster-spell-overhaul: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1689
13:53:40 <dcss-ci_> 04Build failed for 08monster-spell-overhaul @ 07ce3ae5 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/510111884
14:01:10 <krator44> presumably it wants an array of MST_LICH
14:10:16 -!- aidanh_ is now known as aidanh
14:14:34 <gammafunk> ebering: some thoughts on lich changes: we have a progression of "annihilator" monsters that just get progressively beefier with some mild additional aspects each time. Your new liches and ancient liches are now closer to being points in that progression, with the subtle aspect of haste instead of blink and shorter-range for their penetrating conj.
14:15:01 <gammafunk> I'm not sure if this a good thing or not, as it feels a bit redundant, at least in Zot
14:16:52 <gammafunk> Might be nice to have high HD drain caster with good range; arguably that role is well-filled by shadow dragons, but they're not quite good enough
14:17:25 <gammafunk> otoh acid is a pretty good and hard to resist beam
14:17:57 <gammafunk> I wonder if bolt of draining might actually be better than lcs for ancient liches, given that we have drac annihilators
14:18:12 <gammafunk> but it always gets a little hand-wavy justifying this spell tweak or that
14:19:19 <gammafunk> bolt of draining might be a good point of thematical commonality between the two, but we certainly have a lot of crypt monsters with that spell (of course, this is only relevant in crypt itself, where liches are actually not all that common)
14:19:37 <gammafunk> by the two I mean liches and ancient liches
14:19:53 <gammafunk> !lg * zot s=cikiller% recentish
14:19:54 <Sequell> 8684 games for * (zot recentish): 1902x an orb of fire (21.90%), 1494x an Orb Guardian (17.20%), 689x an ancient lich (7.93%), 527x a draconian (6.07%), 378x a golden dragon (4.35%), 374x an electric golem (4.31%), 372x a death cob (4.28%), 344x a Killer Klown (3.96%), 315x a draconian monk (3.63%), 263x a storm dragon (3.03%), 237x a quicksilver dragon (2.73%), 199x a curse toe (2.29%), 158x a te...
14:20:12 <gammafunk> annihilators actually don't get that many
14:20:16 <gammafunk> !lg * zot s=-cikiller% recentish
14:20:17 <Sequell> 8684 games for * (zot recentish): a soul eater (0.01%), the fury of Makhleb (0.01%), Suut (0.01%), Tehem (0.01%), a reaper (0.01%), Reott (0.01%), Naxkonoi (0.01%), a crystal guardian (0.01%), Zuonu (0.01%), a blizzard demon (0.01%), Zudiatics (0.01%), Daluc (0.01%), Dagamaod (0.01%), a war gargoyle (0.01%), an ice devil (0.01%), a torturous demonspawn (0.01%), an infernal corrupter (0.01%), a sto...
14:22:03 <gammafunk> I guess the stronger player vs relatively lower HD of drac annihilators compared to other threats makes a different dynamic compared to Elf and deep elf annihilators
14:22:41 -!- FutureShock is now known as Abandoned
14:24:02 -!- Abandoned is now known as Abandon
15:07:48 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07[monster-spell-overhaul] * 0.27-a0-107-g01ef761: fixup! New Lich spellbook 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/01ef76168827
15:08:06 <Cheibriados> Branch pull/1689 updated to be equal with monster-spell-overhaul: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1689
15:13:08 <G-Flex> Trying to figure out if the thing I'm posting about in ##crawl could be considered buggy/unintentional
15:14:09 <G-Flex> rampage overrides WJC lunge even when WJC lunge would be better. For example, if one space exists between you and the monster, and you move toward the monster, rampaging still cancels WJC lunge, which would be better. Presumably it also cancels any whirlwind attacks that may happen on that turn
15:14:18 <G-Flex> basically, in that specific situation, rampaging is strictly worse but overrides WJC anyway
15:23:15 <Discord|> <12e​bering> it is intentional that they're not compatible
15:24:00 <Discord|> <12e​bering> WJC's martial moves description indicates that only "normal movement" triggers them, I think I included a sentence explicitly stating that digging, rampaging, hopping, and rolling are not allowed
15:24:19 <G-Flex> But in this particular situation, it is normal movement, as you're only one square away from the target
15:24:25 <Pinkbeast> . o O (walljump on froggo hop)
15:24:31 <dcss-ci> 04Build failed for 08monster-spell-overhaul @ 01ef7616 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/510270725
15:24:33 <G-Flex> rampaging isn't giving extra movement in this case
15:24:41 <G-Flex> it's just doing the same thing as lunging except worse
15:25:40 <Discord|> <12e​bering> Rampaging is giving extra movement: it's giving you the 0.0 time movement action into the adjacent cell, followed by the attack for time.
15:25:47 <Discord|> <12e​bering> In the message log it will read that you rampage towards the mosnter.
15:26:10 <G-Flex> I didn't notice that it uses normal time for the attack and 0 for the movement, that does change things a bit
15:27:27 <G-Flex> with WJC, movement itself takes normal time but you potentially attack more than once
15:29:07 <Discord|> <12e​bering> Yes, I am aware that rampaging and WJC overlap in functionality but are subtly different. It is intentional that they're not compatible, because the alternative was a nightmare of special casing
15:30:09 <G-Flex> That makes some sense. I'd still say it would make more sense for lunging to take precedence in that particular case, but I guess I can understand why it was done that way.
15:49:21 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07[monster-spell-overhaul] * 0.27-a0-108-g40e28fe: fixup! New Monster: Dread Lich 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/40e28feaa256
15:49:40 <Cheibriados> Branch pull/1689 updated to be equal with monster-spell-overhaul: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1689
17:46:42 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07* 0.27-a0-141-g0b64aa2: Adjust and derandomize shield delay penalty 10(60 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0b64aa269c06
18:02:08 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-141-g0b64aa269c (34)
18:23:47 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.27-a0-141-g0b64aa269c (34)
20:07:47 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-142-g6522fa7: Revert "Add a trunk reminder for the 0.26 tournament" 10(9 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6522fa771493
20:14:23 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-143-g7528ca1: Mostly remove stone giants from Orc:2 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7528ca199a07
20:17:08 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-143-g7528ca199a (34)
20:21:50 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-144-gb7e3dba: Remove item destruction (minmay) 10(63 seconds ago, 1 file, 5+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b7e3dba11942
20:26:56 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
20:32:19 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-144-gb7e3dba119 (34)
20:52:13 <Lantell> Stable (0.26) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.26.0-41-g79a4fc7684
22:18:17 <Cheibriados> 03Hatsuma02 {PleasingFungus} 07* 0.27-a0-145-g2a9d61b: donger sprites 10(11 days ago, 6 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2a9d61b3d920
22:18:17 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-146-gd3d6545: Integrate palentonga sprites 10(25 hours ago, 33 files, 27+ 30-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d3d65450af1b
22:30:26 <dcss-ci> 04Build failed for 08master @ d3d65450 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/511053977
23:28:04 <Bcadren> Is it intentional that Trog can make Rings of Fire (Artefacts with Trog's name), but not Rings of Ice? Kinda seems like it should be both.
23:29:11 <Bcadren> I'd report as bug; but I'm not sure if is bug? https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/god-item.cc#L449
23:40:39 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-147-gda0e56a: Bring Hellbinding back 10(46 seconds ago, 1 file, 10+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/da0e56a6ef26
23:55:06 <dcss-ci> 04Build failed for 08master @ da0e56a6 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/511180712