01:04:44 <Gretell> Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.26.0-20-g3ca415f5b8 (34)
01:34:31 <Gretell> Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.27-a0-109-g416527ed24 (34)
01:55:24 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.27-a0-109-g416527ed24
02:47:57 <Cbrotell> Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.27-a0-109-g416527ed24 (34)
02:53:56 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.27-a0-109-g416527ed24
03:45:36 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
03:47:05 <Cbrotell> Stable (0.26) branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.26.0-20-g3ca415f5b8
03:47:49 <Kelbell> Stable (0.26) branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.26.0-20-g3ca415f5b8
03:50:35 <Kelbell> Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-3859-ge9853cb0d6
03:51:36 <Kelbell> Fork (bcadrencrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.03-98-gc08451f611
04:37:28 <Discord|> <03w​heals> that interaction seems perfectly reasonable to me, to be honest
04:37:31 <Discord|> <03w​heals> i guess the question is whether it's consistent with what rampaging does with teleport traps
05:54:23 <Gretell> Rjs (L14 MiMo) Crash caused by signal #6: Aborted (Elf:1)
05:56:17 <Rjs> That crash ^^ is http://crawl.develz.org/saves/dumps/Rjs-c5c842f807-210124-1054.cs
05:58:10 <Rjs> and this time I was running ssh inside a script command, so I got the error messages:
05:58:15 <Rjs> Generating dungeon...o\\/o/ building a lair branch \o\ /o/ \o\ /o/building another lair branch \o\ /o/ \o\ /o/    building the Vaults \o\ /o/ \o\ /o/ \o\ building the Crypt /o/ \o\ /o/building the Depths \o\ /o/ \o\ /o/ \o\building the Vestibule of Hell
05:58:15 <Rjs> 
05:58:18 <Rjs> /o/   building the Elven Halls \o\terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc'
05:58:18 <Rjs> what():  std::bad_alloc
05:58:43 <Rjs> (I was entering Elf when it crashed)
05:59:32 <Discord|> <03w​heals> !crashlog
05:59:34 <Discord|> <04C​erebot> 23345. Rjs, XL14 MiMo, T:19275 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/0.26/Rjs/crash-Rjs-20210124-105422.txt
06:07:41 <Rjs> Has anyone else reported level generation crashes recently? Since I've now had three in about a week on CDO, and not a lot of people seem to be playing on CDO, I wonder if it could be related to how CDO is set up...
06:09:40 <Discord|> <03w​heals> it could be, a bad_alloc gets thrown when the program is out of memory
06:09:40 <Discord|> <03w​heals> though you'd expect that to happen more on busier servers
06:10:03 <Rjs> I'm not sure how the process getting out of memory would easily happen on Linux - since usually the oomkiller would kill the process and log in syslog, not fail the allocation? Maybe there is an ulimit on memory usage or something?
06:10:49 <Rjs> (or it is a crawl bug with an infinite loop that allocates memory and fills up the address space, but in that case you would expect it to happen on all servers)
06:14:35 <Rjs> I now tried again and it didn't reproduce, just like the earlier times - so there is also some randomness involved, either in the level generation (should it always give the same result nowadays?) or in the available memory.
06:30:45 <gammafunk> Rjs: not saying there's no configuration issue, but CDO doesn't get a lot of players because it doesn't have WebTiles, and 95% of crawl's players use WebTiles
06:32:42 <gammafunk> I communicatee with the admin Napkin regularly and advil and I both have logins there for website/tournament stuff, so can potentially take a look and forward info to Napkin
06:32:42 <gammafunk> *communicate
06:42:39 <Rjs> Ok. I've been meaning to try out and maybe switch to WebTiles as well, but I returned to crawl after a long break and thought I'd start with what I'm used to...
06:44:32 <Rjs> So in theory this could also be a memory leak in the non-Tiles code, which gets triggered on level gen because that uses a lot of memory at once - but still you'd expect some other non-tiles player to have seen it (and I suppose the non-tiles code is a lot simpler), so maybe this isn't likely.
07:05:42 <Rjs> Another one in the same game when entering Slime: http://crawl.develz.org/saves/dumps/Rjs-c5c842f807-210124-1204.cs
07:06:06 <Rjs> Generating dungeon...o\\/o/ building the Elven Halls \o\ /o/building the Realm of Zot \o\ /o/ \o\terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc'
07:06:06 <Rjs> what():  std::bad_alloc
07:06:15 <Rjs> Crash caused by signal #6: Abortedterminate called recursively
07:06:15 <Rjs> Recursive crash.
07:06:15 <Rjs> terminate called recursively
09:51:28 <advil> Rjs I think it's only you; I've tried to replicate those crashes with your saves and they unfortunately don't replicate off CDO, and I don't have the rights to try on cdo
09:51:40 <advil> I do suspect it's an out-of-memory issue
09:52:03 <advil> I doubt it's a leak per se
09:52:37 <advil> I just found an ancient comment in the chat logs "14:11:30 <kilobyte> on CDO for example there is a hard cap on 100MB"
09:53:00 <advil> if something like that is still true, it definitely seems plausible for modern crawl to hit 100MB
12:06:43 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.27-a0-109-g416527e (34)
13:43:52 <Gretell> stickyfingers (L19 HOGl) Crash caused by signal #6: Aborted (Crypt:1)
14:00:13 <Discord|> <03w​heals> wonder if it's the same crash again
14:00:16 <Discord|> <03w​heals> !crashlog
14:00:18 <Discord|> <04C​erebot> 23347. stickyfingers, XL19 HOGl, T:34839 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/0.26/stickyfingers/crash-stickyfingers-20210124-184350.txt
14:01:49 <Discord|> <03w​heals> yup
14:01:59 <Discord|> <03w​heals> potentially relevant that err_trace is on the dlua stack?
14:38:29 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> @advil do you know how much it would cost to store all of the ancient ttyrecs somewhere, maybe on s3 glacier or something
15:52:36 <gammafunk> !kw nchoice
15:52:36 <Sequell> Keyword: nchoice => HaEn|FoSu|PaWn|GhDe|BaAE|MfDe|DEAr|PaGl|MuAM|VSCj|TeAK|VpVM|HaEE|BaNe|KoTm|HuEn|SpIE|GnDe|DgAM|DDAE|DEWr|MfWz|DETm|FoFE|VpFE|HaNe|TeEE|GhWz|BaBr|DDSu|PaHu|TeIE|FeDe|GhFE|VSAM|VpAr|BaWr|DDAK|FoCj|NaDe|KoAE|GhVM|HaTm|MfEE|DDEn|FoIE|DrDe|DEHu|MfCj|BaWz|TeAM|KoFE|VpAK|PaNe|HaSu|GhAE|DgDe|PaIE|DEAK|PaEE
15:52:48 <gammafunk> =nemelex TeEn
15:52:50 <Sequell> Defined keyword: nchoice => HaEn|FoSu|PaWn|GhDe|BaAE|MfDe|DEAr|PaGl|MuAM|VSCj|TeAK|VpVM|HaEE|BaNe|KoTm|HuEn|SpIE|GnDe|DgAM|DDAE|DEWr|MfWz|DETm|FoFE|VpFE|HaNe|TeEE|GhWz|BaBr|DDSu|PaHu|TeIE|FeDe|GhFE|VSAM|VpAr|BaWr|DDAK|FoCj|NaDe|KoAE|GhVM|HaTm|MfEE|DDEn|FoIE|DrDe|DEHu|MfCj|BaWz|TeAM|KoFE|VpAK|PaNe|HaSu|GhAE|DgDe|PaIE|DEAK|PaEE|TeEn
16:34:22 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-110-ge2d8f9c: Rewrite LRD setup 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 211+ 197-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e2d8f9ccf320
16:34:22 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-111-gb6a8d6b: Refactor further 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 60+ 45-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b6a8d6b5b39c
16:37:27 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-112-gf16e6d0: Remove Summon Greater Demon 10(4 weeks ago, 6 files, 4+ 42-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f16e6d0322db
16:38:16 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-113-gd412354: Reduce net trap trigger chance 10(8 days ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d412354acc90
16:39:07 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-114-g3644e03: Display accuracy on ranged targeters 10(8 days ago, 4 files, 80+ 73-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3644e03777a4
16:40:41 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-115-gee1497a: Show cloud damage for player spells 10(28 hours ago, 3 files, 37+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ee1497a6375b
16:41:46 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-116-g19610a9: Un-de-enhance Scarf of Shadows spells 10(28 hours ago, 2 files, 2+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/19610a9a0ceb
16:43:50 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-117-gab96107: Reduce gnolls attributes to human 10(28 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ab96107f46c2
16:45:44 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-118-gb3a650c: Increase Stone Arrow damage by 2 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b3a650cb6aa7
16:50:24 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-119-g68f98bd: Retheme /disintegrate -> /mindburst 10(4 weeks ago, 32 files, 65+ 58-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/68f98bdfd779
16:54:35 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-120-gd7dd4bc: Give monsters infinite ammo 10(3 weeks ago, 3 files, 5+ 40-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d7dd4bcd5325
16:54:35 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-121-ged86a5f: Make nets finite again 10(8 days ago, 3 files, 9+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ed86a5fd0030
16:58:17 <dcss-ci> 04Build failed for 08master @ f16e6d03 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/507945455
16:58:22 <dcss-ci_> 04Build failed for 08master @ b6a8d6b5 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/507941965
16:58:49 <Cheibriados> New branch created: armour_spirit (2 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/armour_spirit
16:58:49 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[armour_spirit] * 0.27-a0-94-ge42f7de: WIP summon armour spirit 10(8 days ago, 12 files, 68+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e42f7dea1ae2
16:58:49 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[armour_spirit] * 0.27-a0-95-g9390861: New spell: Summon Panzergeist 10(8 days ago, 15 files, 127+ 61-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9390861aeca0
16:59:49 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[armour_spirit] * 0.27-a0-122-g6683436: New spell: Summon Panzergeist 10(8 days ago, 16 files, 167+ 33-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6683436658e5
17:01:06 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-122-g58b3cc3: Checkwhite 10(23 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/58b3cc31320a
17:01:26 <Cheibriados> New branch created: pull/1696 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1696
17:01:26 <Cheibriados> Branch pull/1696 updated to be equal with armour_spirit: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1696
17:01:42 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-117-gab96107f46 (34)
17:04:14 <kate-> @PleasingFungus were you planning to remove regular summon demon as well? i'd been meaning to do that one (as well as SGD) but i thought i remembered seeing a commit for it already in a branch maybe
17:04:49 <Cheibriados> New branch created: projected_weapon (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/projected_weapon
17:04:49 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[projected_weapon] * 0.27-a0-123-gdbd6142: New spell: Projected Weapon (L5 Translocations) 10(7 days ago, 10 files, 98+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dbd6142137b5
17:06:30 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> kate-: i have a commit, didn't push it
17:06:38 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> can push it soonish; was undecided
17:09:17 <kate-> aha yeah, i see the branch now. and yeah, feels like it's in pretty much the same place as SGD where not only are there lots of other summons around that level, the other options are mostly more interesting and fun designs already
17:10:52 <Cheibriados> New branch created: pull/1697 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1697
17:10:52 <Cheibriados> Branch pull/1697 updated to be equal with projected_weapon: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1697
17:14:46 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
17:22:39 <dcss-ci> 04Build failed for 08master @ d412354a 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/507946186
17:25:22 <dcss-ci> 04Build failed for 08master @ 3644e037 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/507946757
17:30:17 <dcss-ci_> 04Build failed for 08master @ ee1497a6 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/507949219
17:30:17 <dcss-ci> 04Build failed for 08master @ 19610a9a 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/507950517
17:30:18 <dcss-ci__> 04Build failed for 08master @ b3a650cb 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/507955350
17:30:24 <dcss-ci___> 04Build failed for 08master @ ab96107f 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/507953092
17:31:53 <dcss-ci> 04Build failed for 08master @ 68f98bdf 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/507960920
17:35:00 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-122-g58b3cc3132 (34)
17:35:18 <Discord|> <03w​heals> i think the build may have failed
17:36:23 <dcss-ci> 04Build failed for 08master @ ed86a5fd 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/507965564
17:44:29 <dcss-ci> 04Build failed for 08armour_spirit @ 9390861a 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/507970622
17:48:47 <dcss-ci> 04Build failed for 08armour_spirit @ 66834366 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/507971693
18:04:27 <dcss-ci> 04Build failed for 08projected_weapon @ dbd61421 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/507977211
18:11:36 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> not sure what'd make you think that
18:22:59 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.27-a0-122-g58b3cc3132 (34)
18:49:20 <advil> PleasingFungus: it's not super expensive, and I started down that route, but it becomes extremely unmanageable because of the very large number of small files
18:50:26 <advil> not sure about glacier though, it's not very trivial to get anything out of it (and I suspect we never would)
19:11:12 -!- FutureShock is now known as abandonsapien
19:12:06 -!- abandonsapien is now known as AbandonSapien
20:13:04 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> hrm
20:13:21 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> there's also intermediate versions, long term storage classes for S3
20:21:14 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> i’m not clear on the current technical challenges, though, so hard to advise
20:21:14 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> would just be sad to lose years of history, esp if we wipe all the old ttyrecs instead of just some definition of ‘boring’ ones
21:03:50 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[projected_weapon] * 0.27-a0-124-g456c784: Rename and re-level Projected Weapon 10(8 minutes ago, 2 files, 8+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/456c784262e9
21:03:50 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[projected_weapon] * 0.27-a0-125-g985a322: Don't allow sleepstabbing with Proj Weapon 10(34 seconds ago, 1 file, 11+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/985a322822c6
21:04:07 <Cheibriados> Branch pull/1697 updated to be equal with projected_weapon: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1697
21:04:31 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[armour_spirit] * 0.27-a0-123-g4dac63e: Raise Panzergeist's level a bit 10(31 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4dac63e651b0
21:04:42 <Cheibriados> New branch created: simplispectral (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/simplispectral
21:04:42 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[simplispectral] * 0.27-a0-109-gaf31ee7: Remove Evocation scaling from Spectral 10(32 hours ago, 3 files, 7+ 17-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/af31ee78d938
21:04:56 <Cheibriados> Branch pull/1696 updated to be equal with armour_spirit: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1696
21:12:43 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[simplispectral] * 0.27-a0-123-g9ea0f8b: Remove Evocation scaling from Spectral 10(32 hours ago, 3 files, 7+ 17-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9ea0f8b6df3a
21:12:58 <Cheibriados> New branch created: pull/1698 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1698
21:12:58 <Cheibriados> Branch pull/1698 updated to be equal with simplispectral: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1698
21:21:19 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-123-geb620a3: Remove Summon Demon 10(4 weeks ago, 7 files, 9+ 17-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/eb620a33452e
21:21:19 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.27-a0-124-g19cb506: Tweak summoning titles 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/19cb506db8f7
21:27:41 <dcss-ci> 04Build failed for 08projected_weapon @ 985a3228 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/508261156
21:29:37 <dcss-ci> 04Build failed for 08armour_spirit @ 4dac63e6 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/508262134
21:34:21 <advil> PleasingFungus: genuine question, what would be sad about it?
21:35:20 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.27-a0-124-g19cb506db8 (34)
21:36:27 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> being able to go back and look at really old games is very cool, and there's plenty of learndb entries that link to old funny games
21:36:32 <advil> I'm sorta in the camp where it's sad along the lines of, my parents were for quite a long time sad to throw away their 40yo unused camping gear in their basement and so it mouldered for most of my life and they didn't do it until the oil tank failed right next to that particular collection
21:36:37 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> haha
21:36:54 <advil> I think it would be very reasonable to selectively archive things that are actually linked to and accessed
21:37:32 <advil> but sometime last year before sequell died and we lost those stats, we were able to look at how much stuff was accessed via footv, and something on the order of 2000 games  had *ever* been watched
21:37:34 <advil> !lg
21:37:35 <Sequell> 564. advil the Vandal (L1 HOHu), entered wizard mode on D:1 (eino_arrival_water_cross) on 2020-12-17 00:34:22, with 0 points after 0 turns and 0:00:07.
21:37:39 <advil> !lg *
21:37:41 <Sequell> 12684141. PPCmaster the Chopper (L9 DsFi of Gozag), mangled by an orc knight (a +2 great mace) in Bailey (bailey_axe_2) on 2021-01-25 02:35:24, with 2464 points after 7152 turns and 0:12:46.
21:37:43 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> dang
21:37:45 <advil> out of that many
21:38:13 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> i'm actually quite surprised by that... i'd guess an order of magnitude higher watch count
21:39:14 <advil> I don't know exactly when the sequell stats were last reset before that
21:39:14 <advil> and that isn't watch count
21:39:14 <advil> just the number of ttyrecs that have been watched
21:39:14 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> sorry, unique tvs watched count?
21:39:14 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> though ofc compared to 12,684,141, even 20k would still be quite small
21:39:25 <advil> the main reason I've come up with to keep everything would be if some sort of AI system used it as training data, that's very speculative though
21:42:10 <advil> these queries were findable in the logs with the right search term, trying to reconstruct
21:43:10 <advil> they also don't include regular downloads
21:43:37 <advil> when I priced things out the best option for storage was backblaze B2 btw
21:43:55 <advil> I've actually moved the highest ttyrec produces on CAO to my B2 bucket already (both bots)
21:44:56 <advil> *producers
21:48:53 <advil> !lg * ntv>0
21:48:58 <Sequell> 121. bairyn the Marksspriggan (L10 SpDe of Gozag), slain by an elephant on D:10 (david_lair_generic) on 2021-01-24 00:05:28, with 6061 points after 21155 turns and 0:30:47.
21:49:04 <advil> !lg * ntv>0 1
21:49:09 <Sequell> 1/121. Iaido the Thanatomancer (L27 DsTm of Okawaru), mangled by a reaper (a scythe of speed) on Orc:3 on 2007-07-19 22:58:14, with 1090588 points after 183893 turns and 2d+6:19:33.
21:49:35 <advil> well, far from 0
21:50:39 <advil> it's too bad those stats did get reset because we could have saved every game that's ever been watched without breaking a sweat
21:52:13 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> 😦
21:52:54 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> 11:47:26 <|amethyst> !lg * ntv>0 11:47:32 <Sequell> 34178. nodergak the Skirmisher (L4 HaCK of Xom), mangled by an ice beast in Sewer (sewer_co_tree) on 2020-05-20 00:41:13, with 86 points after 560 turns and 0:05:10. (from ##crawl-dev-20200522.lg)
21:53:00 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> so your 20k estimate was more correct
21:53:06 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> ooh, nice idea
21:53:41 <Discord|> <06a​dvil> just had to remember that the sequell keyword was ntv to find the right log