00:02:43 <03wheals> it probably has something to do with their very weird rcfile 00:19:33 <10PleasingFungus> &rc vortex 00:19:33 <04Cerebot> https://cbro.berotato.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/vortex.rc 00:19:36 <10PleasingFungus> oh dear 00:20:13 <10PleasingFungus> that's beyond my paygrade 00:20:22 <10PleasingFungus> i was looking at fixing that hda crash 00:20:26 <10PleasingFungus> it's a really interesting problem, honestly 00:20:46 <10PleasingFungus> it's the classic problem of the attacker ceasing to exist by the time the attack happens 00:21:03 <10PleasingFungus> one thing we might consider doing is making a copy of the attacker when we create the beam 00:21:33 <10PleasingFungus> and using that for this ranged attack, rather than the current state of the monster 00:21:42 <10PleasingFungus> of course, that might have stranger side effects 00:22:38 <10PleasingFungus> i was very much hoping to just be able to constify the agent of a beam and always store a copy of the initiator, but eyes of draining, of all things, are causing problems there 00:27:17 <10PleasingFungus> (tbf, also ghost moths) 00:42:16 <10PleasingFungus> i think the solution has to be to make exploding enemies a fineff 00:43:09 <10PleasingFungus> exactly like mirror damage, exactly like shock serpent discharge... way too much of a mess otherwise 00:44:04 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.26-a0-838-gcb17a62: Constify drain_exp agent 10(46 minutes ago, 5 files, 6+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cb17a628a652 00:44:04 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.26-a0-839-gea2d263: Remove unused params 10(42 minutes ago, 12 files, 22+ 22-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ea2d263aa7e0 00:44:04 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.26-a0-840-g1d16244: Constify paralyse agent 10(31 minutes ago, 5 files, 6+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1d16244ef9db 00:44:04 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.26-a0-841-gb6d1a29: Constify banish agent 10(28 minutes ago, 5 files, 5+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b6d1a298b213 00:44:04 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.26-a0-842-gc41a885: Constify petrify agent 10(27 minutes ago, 5 files, 5+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c41a8854c27e 00:44:04 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.26-a0-843-ge40b904: Constify torment_player agent 10(26 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e40b904635fd 00:47:36 04Build failed for 08master @ e40b9046 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/369591531 00:50:20 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 01:01:58 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.26-a0-843-ge40b904635 (34) 01:19:13 <10PleasingFungus> oh no 01:19:16 <10PleasingFungus> i rewrote it as a final effect 01:19:19 <10PleasingFungus> but it doesn't help at all 01:19:27 <10PleasingFungus> since we fire final effects after each attack 01:35:42 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.26-a0-844-g3dd4398: Turn monster explosions into fineffs 10(5 minutes ago, 5 files, 66+ 33-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3dd439832fe0 01:36:17 <10PleasingFungus> ^ this is part of my 'fix a crash, add a crash' initiative. chip in your own today! 01:38:51 04Build failed for 08master @ 3dd43983 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/369656569 01:48:16 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.26-a0-844-g3dd439832f (34) 01:53:13 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.26-a0-844-g3dd439832f 02:45:26 Unstable branch on cbro.berotato.org updated to: 0.26-a0-844-g3dd439832f (34) 02:53:03 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.26-a0-844-g3dd439832f 03:30:58 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-3681-ga1082b90cb 03:32:01 Fork (bcadrencrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.22.1-3109-g07563d0fc2 09:28:04 <06advil> @PleasingFungus showing all skills happened on a cao xl 1 test character that I've unfortunately since quit, did not happen on similar random chars I had on cko, cbr2, cbro 09:28:04 <06advil> iirc I had messed with the skills on that test char in some way or other 10:29:53 <10PleasingFungus> hm, mysterious 12:26:50 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.26-a0-844-g3dd4398 (34) 12:30:00 03gammafunk02 07* 0.26-a0-845-gfacbca9: Fix some problems in a vault 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 62+ 51-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/facbca91cf08 12:33:48 04Build failed for 08master @ facbca91 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/370709895 12:35:01 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.26-a0-845-gfacbca91cf (34) 13:28:10 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 13:28:44 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 18:23:07 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.26-a0-845-gfacbca91cf (34) 18:47:12 -!- Discord|3 is now known as Discord| 20:23:00 03advil02 07* 0.26-a0-846-gcc8f1ee: Reword the demigod description (monkeytor) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cc8f1ee719a2 20:25:07 03advil02 07[stone_soup-0.25] * 0.25.1-3-ge44b62a: Reword the demigod description (monkeytor) 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e44b62a0b328 20:27:32 Build failed for stone_soup-0.25 @ e44b62a0 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/371388434 (failed: Linux Build,MacOS Build,Linux MingW Build,Catch2/codecov) 20:29:28 atrodo (L12 FeCj) ASSERT(m) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1978 failed. (Zot (ZotDef)) 20:32:14 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.26-a0-846-gcc8f1ee719 (34) 21:06:05 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 21:19:24 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 21:20:17 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 22:09:06 any opinions on the following idea: `f` becomes (new) CMD_AUTOFIRE, current `f` (targeting with quivered item) goes to `F`, and current `F` (select ammo to target with) lacks a default keybind? you can still trigger the latter via a two-key sequence under this scheme (`FQ` or maybe `F*` if I change it) 22:10:31 I floated it in #dcss and it wasn't hated 22:13:38 What does CMD_AUTOFIRE do? I can't see a reference to it in the source. 22:15:36 it doesn't yet exist 22:16:20 but it's like CMD_AUTOFIGHT for the quiver only (similar to CMD_AUTOFIRE_NOMOVE but always fires the quiver) 22:16:39 er, CMD_AUTOFIGHT_NOMOVE 22:17:05 this is in reference to https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1581 22:18:11 advil: seems reasonable to me though i would have expected the opposite behaviour from f and F, so that players used to current f don't have to change 22:18:35 I've gotten definite feedback that putting CMD_AUTOFIRE on a shift key combo is bad 22:18:37 (also: macros) 22:18:52 did they say why? 22:19:01 "weak pinkies" 22:19:08 well, that was a jokey response 22:19:22 but I'm sympathetic to the point that for something you want to hit a lot, it's not ideal 22:19:48 if this weren't an issue, it'd be fine, as it's currently on shift-tab (replacing the current default of CMD_AUTOFIGHT_NOMOVE) 22:19:48 My concern is that that also applies to the fire command. 22:20:27 If you're in the habit of checking what you're trying to hit, having the key changed could really throw you. 22:21:21 Particularly if you're going from "ff" to attack something to "Ff" to attack. 22:23:37 hmm 22:24:07 I'm not really sympathetic to arguments that go "don't change because people aren't expecting change" but I am sympathetic to that point 23:45:58 <10PleasingFungus> i think people will get used to it quite quickly 23:46:07 <10PleasingFungus> it's not like something that only happens in rare and dangerous circumstances 23:46:10 <10PleasingFungus> like making q autodrink or something