00:01:46 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> big fan of ebering's rampage today
00:48:39 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
00:59:59 <twelwe> hell yeh two of those were my reports
01:34:26 <Gretell> Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.26-a0-631-ged93497179 (34)
01:55:11 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.26-a0-631-ged93497179
03:18:37 <Rotatell> Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.26-a0-631-ged93497 (34)
03:30:56 <Kelbell> Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-3570-gb561bb485a
06:22:16 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
09:05:43 <Kelbell> Stossel (L16 DrCj) ASSERT(ray.pos() == oldpos) in 'beam.cc' at line 4416 failed. (Swamp:1)
09:15:07 <ebering> !crashlog
09:15:08 <Sequell> 22581. Stossel, XL16 DrCj, T:40346 (milestone): https://crawl.kelbi.org/crawl/morgue/Stossel/crash-Stossel-20200912-130532.txt
09:16:05 <ebering> Ooof. knock back into a dispersal trap
10:16:15 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
11:38:01 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> @PleasingFungus re: design goals, yes, the main goal is to give the beetle a powerful attack where you'll need to decide between kill first or escape, and the secondary "roll past" aspect is also a goal. I should be clear, thought, that this rolling past aspect is only seen by the roll failing an evasion check. It does give the player a possibility to punish the beetle before it unrolls (since any
11:38:02 <Discord|> subsequent roll movement takes the beetle away from the player) and resets its attack cycle. Both of those things are intentional, but for the second aspect I don't want some special movement pattern to allow "roll evasion"
11:40:11 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> I think it may indeed be the case that faster roll speed is necessary, possibly 20, since if a player is able to simply walk away in most situations, that's not very interesting. Maybe a good target would be that a spriggan doesn't get to just walk away safely unless the beetle is rolling a full 6 or 7 tiles away
11:40:14 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> *?spriggan
11:40:14 <Discord|> <04C​erebot>  spriggan (i) | Spd: 10 (move: 60%) | HD: 7 | HP: 20-30 | AC/EV: 3/18 | Dam: 15 | weapons, items, doors, see invisible | Res: magic(60) | XP: 218 | Sz: little | Int: human.
11:41:36 <Pinkbeast> Might you really be bringing boulder beetles back?
11:41:42 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> guess it would need to be much faster than 20 to catch one of those though, so perhaps we have to let the spriggans run away and bake bread
11:42:27 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> @gammafunk yep, gotcha re roll evasion
11:42:59 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> i hope nothing bad happens to orb spiders next...
11:43:12 <Pinkbeast> (because if so while I regret it's not a separate commit, our commit a3daa9a6e787258bdbf2cf809595f19f9cecea11 fixes the boulder beetle traps which were broken in vanilla for c. 4 years)
11:43:29 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> sounds like a classic bug 🙂
11:43:34 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> 🚫 ⚪ 🕷️
11:43:41 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> not sure if the same traps would make sense for new boulder beetles, though
11:43:42 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> is all I have to say about those
11:43:45 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> since they're intended to function fairly differently
11:44:06 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> there are other aspects of beetles to worry about
11:44:12 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> well, like the blinking/reset issue
11:44:18 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> I forget if you commented on that, PF
11:44:26 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> but it's still a concern I have
11:44:32 <twelwe> why do you have to call them new boulder beetles gamma. why not actualized beetles.
11:44:53 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> I think you're right that the roll speed aspect is a bit more complicated in that it has to be well-tuned, and I didn't really think of that issue much initially
11:45:08 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> but it does feel like there's probably a reasonable set of knobs to tune there
11:45:37 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> i had a small comment about resets, not a very insightful one
11:45:42 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> another weird aspect: chosing where to go when "rolling past"; monster seeking to target doesn't generate any notion of a natural ray
11:46:05 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> so you sort of have to make some ray from beetle through target that it just missed and just go somewhere along that ray endpoint?
11:46:10 <Pinkbeast> Fair enough. It's there if you want it (although TBH even if you do, knowing the traps are broken is about 80% of the work)
11:46:32 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> because they're not actualized yet, twelwe
11:46:37 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> my vague thought is that they'd pop out on the other side of the target and then keep rolling in a straight line
11:46:54 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> yeah I suppose that does work
11:46:55 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> maybe you could fuzz it a bit, idk
11:47:07 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> yeah, it's not really the biggest deal, I guess
11:47:23 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> anyhow, thanks for the feedback on the rolling speed stuff as I'd not thought all that out quite so much
11:48:01 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> np
11:48:01 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> reading too much elf fanfic, I guess
11:48:01 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> impossible
11:48:01 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> hm
11:48:01 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> > (vaguely feel like some kind of ‘bounce backwards’ or ‘roll past’ effect might be more thematic for regaining distance than blink, but unsure about how exactly that’d work)  this was my comment about resets before. not very helpful, sorry
11:48:14 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> right, I had tried to spitball a few "I Can't Believe It's Not Blink!" ideas, myself
11:48:42 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> well, imagine if they could roll at the player while in melee but always missed when they did. that's basically a reset, sort of
11:48:49 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> and I also thought of other ways to make translocations theme, but it did feel tacked-on in the end, so it's something I need to think about a little more
11:48:58 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> heh
11:49:08 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> that's sort of cute
11:49:35 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> eerily reminds me of maintain distance, but it's not quite that
11:49:38 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> alternately, you could pull a classic video game move and have them 'tunnel into the ground' and reappear in a random nearby space a few turns later
11:49:50 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> probably move them to -1,-1 when they tunnel or something...
11:49:51 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> yes that is literally what I had spitballed myself, at one point
11:49:53 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> heh
11:49:59 <twelwe> the boring beetle returns
11:50:10 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> probably the delay is not actually great gameplay
11:50:18 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> but one would have to try it
11:50:31 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> (could also do an insta-tunnel, which is of course just rethemed blink)
11:50:49 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> always a good sign when I've discussed one lair monster more than an entire proposed branch rework (I still need to look at that one)
11:51:23 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> oh, i should push my changes then
11:51:29 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> gimme a minute
12:11:28 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[bogged-down] * 0.26-a0-615-g601525a: Buff bog bodies 10(3 weeks ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/601525aff57a
12:11:28 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[bogged-down] * 0.26-a0-616-g560b93b: Refactor monster death effects 10(3 weeks ago, 1 file, 44+ 31-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/560b93b9473c
12:11:28 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[bogged-down] * 0.26-a0-617-ga45da29: New monster: bloated husk 10(3 weeks ago, 6 files, 42+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a45da29a95a1
12:11:28 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[bogged-down] * 0.26-a0-618-gb8fc8d1: New monster: bunyip 10(3 weeks ago, 7 files, 33+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b8fc8d179769
12:11:28 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[bogged-down] * 0.26-a0-619-g6cf2a6e: New monster: devouring swarm 10(3 weeks ago, 30 files, 180+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6cf2a6ebbfe4
12:11:28 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[bogged-down] * 0.26-a0-620-gcb631e6: Power up insubstantial wisps 10(3 weeks ago, 4 files, 55+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cb631e687fc8
12:11:28 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[bogged-down] * 0.26-a0-621-g2cf101a: New monster: Kitsune 10(3 weeks ago, 11 files, 63+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2cf101a36a4f
12:11:28 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[bogged-down] * 0.26-a0-622-g554cfac: New monster: goliath frog 10(3 weeks ago, 14 files, 57+ 16-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/554cfacba9f5
12:11:28 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[bogged-down] * 0.26-a0-623-gf035120: New monster: eleionoma 10(3 weeks ago, 14 files, 150+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f035120e909e
12:11:28 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[bogged-down] * 0.26-a0-624-gce861df: Remove unused M_HYBRID flag 10(3 weeks ago, 4 files, 15+ 22-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ce861df93244
12:11:28 <Cheibriados> ... and 20 more commits
12:11:46 <Cheibriados> Branch pull/1533 updated to be equal with bogged-down: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1533
12:12:04 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> done. current TODO list for the branch:  Try to shrink the levels somewhat Maybe: make rPois only resist 50% or 67% of poison clouds & meph? Think about bunyip: is it boring right now? Look at vaults (mons & deep water) Look at XP again
12:12:13 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> also these commits are mostly me rebasing the branch
12:12:32 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> the interesting ones are at the end
12:14:41 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> @PleasingFungus I'll go ahead and throw up an experimental on CDI; even if stough is really too rough for play-testing, it will be nice for people to play with
12:14:56 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> cool
12:15:09 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> I want to work on automatic branch->playable experimental for dgl setups a bit this weekend, but I doubt I'll finish it
12:15:10 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> hm, i should try to figure out the shrinking level thing
12:16:40 <Discord|> <12e​bering> With luck I'll have time for ramPRage II: detailed review comments
12:17:51 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> sounds sick
12:18:01 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> lmk if you want me to look at any thing
12:18:54 <Discord|> <12e​bering> well my top goal is to give feedback on your swamp horrors so unless you can imagine my feedback and react
12:19:05 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> imagining... imagining...
12:19:21 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> imagination complete
12:19:37 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747522859361894521/754375674399162469/p03lcphh.png
12:21:35 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> also i looked at the idea of shrinking swamp levels and it seemed hard
12:21:56 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> feel like i need a vaultsmith/levelgen master to help if i want that
12:28:41 <dcss-ci__> 04Build failed for 08bogged-down @ b307d99d 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/251427638
12:30:39 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus>   In file included from catch2-tests/test_main.cc:7:0: ./fake-main.hpp: In function ‘void process_command(command_type, command_type)’: ./fake-main.hpp:37:6: warning: no previous declaration for ‘void process_command(command_type, command_type)’ [-Wmissing-declarations]  void process_command(command_type, command_type) {}   ??
12:31:07 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> hm, that's only a warning tho
12:31:28 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> ha, it's  catch2-tests/test_ng-init-branches.cc
12:33:08 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[bogged-down] * 0.26-a0-645-gba13bad: Fix tests? 10(12 seconds ago, 1 file, 4+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ba13badd5440
12:33:26 <Cheibriados> Branch pull/1533 updated to be equal with bogged-down: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1533
12:35:58 <FanChant> Dear dev team I'm asking you to reconsider conjure flame or better yet, replace it entirely... it's not worth memorizing atm. it only works in a corridor and only if you see something coming form 10 miles away and even then it's not great... the "instant ignite" by casting it twice isn't good either... 6 mana to hurt yourself unless you have an
12:35:58 <FanChant> abundance of fr+ for some reason (does cloud immunity still exist?) for such a meager result... if you are desperate  to get one square of distance in a corridor, summon mammal/swiftess is better. hedge wizard doesn't need a boost but for FE it wouldn't hurt. it has bad synergy with FE anyway because foxfire needs you to be in a semi-open space to
12:35:59 <FanChant> work well anyway, making conjure flame even more useless as it already is
12:43:54 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> i'm told by some that it's still Quite Powerful, perhaps insofar as it helps cover the weaknesses of FE. as you said, foxfire needs open space, but cflame works best in tight corridors, so FE has an option in its toolkit for each
12:44:47 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> conjure flame is still very good, just not as broken as it was
12:44:47 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> it was insanely good before, now it's just good
12:45:41 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> FE is a fairly strong start, and certainly some chars can get through early-mid dungeon if they skip it, but they still wan't to memorize it
12:46:58 <twelwe> i'm the last person to want a nerf but if c.flame is a strong level 3 spell i don't even want to know how strong frozen ramparts is at 3
12:47:29 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> well, it probably helps to look at all the L3 spells
12:47:35 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> not just two of them
12:48:06 <twelwe> ramparts imo is the best at 3 so its a good comparison
12:48:07 <Discord|> <09g​ammafunk> otoh there are 2 school L3 spells and 1 school L3 spells, so that certainly complicates things
12:52:00 <FanChant> okay I'll try to step up my c. flame game but ye ramparts is very strong in comparison but then again you can't compare an utility spell to a damage spell
12:53:04 <twelwe> frozen ramparts is both. it will stop monsters under the right circumstances from entering it.
12:53:25 <Pinkbeast> Huh, I did not expect that to end in "okay then, I'll give it a go"
12:58:18 <twelwe> flee from combat is always an option in ##crawl-dev
13:08:21 <Discord|> <12e​bering> This is more to see what the irc<->discord bridge does with images but
13:08:46 <Discord|> <12e​bering> Consider this new-style conjure flame demonstration.
13:08:47 <Discord|> <12e​bering> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747522859361894521/754388044957745182/newcf.gif
13:09:50 <ebering> Oh, they parted in irc. Rip not having joins/parts in discord
13:10:03 <gammafunk> yeah, I specifically disabled that
13:10:08 <gammafunk> cuz it seemed spammy
13:10:28 <ebering> Def. spammy, but oh well
13:10:34 <ebering> looks like image uploads come through fine
13:10:35 <gammafunk> irc clients can ignore/darken those, but you can't do stuff like that on discord side
13:19:05 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.26-a0-631-ged93497 (34)
13:29:24 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> cool demo imo
13:33:48 <advil> I once had a dream of building an animated gif maker into local tiles and generating all sorts of little demos like that
13:34:58 <advil> some day
13:36:26 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[targeted-commands] * 0.26-a0-491-g5a5cb0d: Rename a quiver enum 10(5 weeks ago, 3 files, 71+ 66-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5a5cb0d70e7d
13:36:26 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[targeted-commands] * 0.26-a0-492-ge078c48: Refactor and generalize quivering 10(2 weeks ago, 27 files, 662+ 591-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e078c4827767
13:36:26 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[targeted-commands] * 0.26-a0-493-g4e92e6f: Don't let browser eat shift-tab in webtiles 10(15 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4e92e6f73f50
13:36:26 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[targeted-commands] * 0.26-a0-494-g64b80db: Let beam spells target test statues without Z 10(62 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/64b80db93b70
13:36:26 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[targeted-commands] * 0.26-a0-495-g9e12cc0: Implement quivering spells 10(20 minutes ago, 19 files, 541+ 209-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9e12cc0f45c2
13:37:40 <ZureaL> quivering spells?  That sounds shaky
13:37:47 <gammafunk> dang
13:37:53 <gammafunk> ....advil's done it again!
13:38:05 <advil> still wip
13:38:23 <gammafunk> what's the ego on that w(h)ip?
13:38:26 <gammafunk> hopefully chaos
13:38:46 <advil> but, it's getting pretty usable
13:42:23 <Discord|> <03w​heals> that joke was definitely reaching, gamma
13:42:58 <Implojin> random thoughts as i clear PF-swamp:
13:43:07 <Implojin> i feel like bloated husks should knock back?
13:43:18 <Implojin> i have no idea what woodweal is supposed to do because it has no description
13:43:58 <Implojin> kitsune might be a little undertuned, they die really fast, but maybe this is intentional as a spellcaster themed thing
13:44:57 <Implojin> it's difficult to tell if bunyip noise is doing anything
13:45:35 <Implojin> "gives a hideous shriek" seems not-very-different from a player perspective than just standard monster shouting
13:47:58 <dcss-ci> 04Build failed for 08targeted-commands @ 9e12cc0f 06https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/251498551
13:48:03 <advil> oh, I guess I branched from a while ago
13:52:11 <Implojin> also if you actually go through with theming a mainline monster as kitsune be prepared to deal with all the furries
14:06:50 <gammafunk> !zap wheals
14:06:50 <Sequell> (∩ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)⊃━☆ﾟ. o ･ ｡ﾟ wheals
14:07:56 <Implojin> i think i like the addition of bunyips to depths although i havent looked through the commits yet to see if this is intentional
14:21:41 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> it was not intentional. where did i do that
14:23:02 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> very confused about how that could happen. shapeshifter?
14:31:10 <Implojin> don't think it was, but i was just kind of autopiloting the char at that point
14:32:37 <Implojin> nope, i take it back
14:32:37 <Implojin> it was
14:32:37 <Implojin> A bunyip (shapeshifter) (Depths:2)
14:34:16 <Implojin> i really like the eleionoma theming
14:34:40 <Implojin> no clue how they're supposed to work without going to read the commits though
14:35:17 <Implojin> didn't see a single fenstrider witch in that game
14:35:25 <Implojin> guess i need to play another
14:38:32 <advil> lol, I see a semi-descendent of dpeg's spider mating ritual is in there
14:39:00 <Implojin> hmm
14:39:21 <Implojin> come to think of it, i'm not sure if i ever saw the goliath frogs use their acid attack
14:40:35 <Implojin> i like bloated husks conceptually as a positional thing
14:40:50 <Implojin> dunno about the current balance for that, it probably needs tweaking
14:42:07 <Implojin> i give this branch owo/10
14:42:11 <Implojin> gotta go~
14:55:03 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> dang, ty for playtest!
14:55:17 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> i’ll check and see if goliath froggos are bugged
14:58:17 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> the top-end monsters like fenstriders are supposed to be fairly rare - you get something like 3-4 total top-end spawns across all of swamp and there are like 4 types of top-end monster now? so odds of missing one are pretty good
14:58:54 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> you said there was something off about the balance on bloated husks - what did you have in mind?
14:59:04 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> and what was confusing about eleios?
15:06:58 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> oh wait i forgot the ridiculous description i wrote for eleios
15:09:50 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[bogged-down] * 0.26-a0-646-gf6c8f2b: Make eleionoma description marginally less absurd 10(43 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f6c8f2b733f8
15:10:08 <Cheibriados> Branch pull/1533 updated to be equal with bogged-down: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1533
16:01:39 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
16:46:35 <kate-> hmm, it looks like the mp cost of spells decremented on the UI while you're targeting them now, and refunded again if you cancel targeting, is that intentional?
16:46:46 <kate-> gets decremented*
16:47:29 <kate-> iirc that's how it's worked on the backend for a while but i don't think it should display like that in the UI
17:12:09 <Implojin> PF: the bloated husk explosion didn't do much on the character i played, i kind of felt like the explosion ability might feel more impactful as a forced reposition on the explosion
17:12:45 <Implojin> in addition to/instead of? damage or whatever
17:12:50 <Implojin> the monster immediately brought to mind those jellyfish things in hollow knight
17:13:11 <Implojin> also the eleonora description was amazing, don't change it!
17:13:57 <Implojin> it was just that one of the ability descriptions was missing entirely and its use of whatever its first ability was supposed to be didn't actually happen that frequently in my game (maybe this was because i was LOS-breaking things as a matter of habit)
17:14:16 <Implojin> so it was difficult to tell what the intended design was from purely ingame reference
17:14:47 <Implojin> and on a separate note
17:14:54 <Implojin> advil: don't let browser eat shift+tab
17:15:07 <Implojin> is it possible to do something like this for ctrl+n opening a new tab in firefox?
17:15:21 <Implojin> it makes webtiles ctrl+swing irritating
17:15:38 <Implojin> long standing minor bug that i always assumed there was some technical reason behind but never looked into
17:22:17 <advil> that may be possible, I haven't looked into whether there's something different going on with control keys
17:23:10 <advil> I see code that sort of looks like it would be intended to take care of that one
17:23:54 <Implojin> or maybe it actually opens a new window, now that im looking at it
17:24:12 <Implojin> point being that trying to ctrl+swing down-right in webtiles steals focus from the game
17:24:12 <advil> yeah, it's a similar situation, that should be the windows new window shortcut in ff
17:25:11 <Implojin> it appears to be the same behavior with firefox in manjaro
17:25:21 <Implojin> but i remember this happening under windows 7 too
17:25:37 <advil> yeah, I mentioned windows just because this isn't an issue for mac
17:26:36 <advil> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=473360
17:26:58 <Implojin> uff
17:26:58 <Implojin> well
17:27:00 <Implojin> rip
17:28:30 <advil> I can't find a current version of this but it seems like various browsers prevent a miscellaneous selection of shortcuts from being captured: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7295508/javascript-capture-browser-shortcuts-ctrlt-n-w/7296303#7296303
17:28:32 <Implojin> clearly i need to start playing webtiles from within a macos vm or something
17:28:43 <advil> probably the ideal solution
17:46:28 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[targeted-commands] * 0.26-a0-632-gbcfa34f: Rudimentary API for programmatic targeting 10(6 weeks ago, 10 files, 81+ 23-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bcfa34f3054d
17:46:28 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[targeted-commands] * 0.26-a0-633-g470864e: Rename a quiver enum 10(5 weeks ago, 3 files, 71+ 66-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/470864ebc7a9
17:46:28 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[targeted-commands] * 0.26-a0-634-g94e8cba: Refactor and generalize quivering 10(2 weeks ago, 27 files, 662+ 591-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/94e8cba340ab
17:46:28 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[targeted-commands] * 0.26-a0-635-g1caae95: Don't let browser eat shift-tab in webtiles 10(19 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1caae95ad851
17:46:28 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[targeted-commands] * 0.26-a0-636-g1ce7546: Let beam spells target test statues without Z 10(5 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1ce75468453a
17:46:28 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[targeted-commands] * 0.26-a0-637-g64e5c18: Implement quivering spells 10(5 hours ago, 19 files, 541+ 209-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/64e5c18931ec
17:47:27 <Implojin> also
17:47:30 <Implojin> dang
17:47:34 <Implojin> spell quivering?
17:48:22 <advil> coming soon (tm)!
17:48:40 <Implojin> this feels like just a tiny extra step to a full on ability bar
17:48:54 <Yermak> While you there, fix the bug where you can't quiver nothing.
17:49:02 <Implojin> probably a huge technical leap given crawlcode but a person can dream
17:50:00 <advil> I have to admit that I've been having ideas inspired by ps4 games with a quick action menu on hold
17:50:06 <advil> Yermak what bug exactly?
17:50:21 <advil> I know that sometimes force quivering nothing will get overridden, maybe that?
17:50:26 <Implojin> disgaea 2 is currently on sale for, like, 4 bucks on steam
17:50:29 <advil> I don't think that happens any more in this branch
17:50:31 <Yermak> After you press Q-, you're supposed to quiver nothing, It doesn't happen.
17:50:40 <Implojin> if you want to steal strategy rpg UX
17:50:49 <Implojin> i highly recommend everything about that game
17:51:00 <advil> ah, yeah that at least works better; didn't realize it wasn't working at all
17:51:18 <Yermak> #11069
17:52:44 <Yermak> kate-, I believe it's intentional, at least it gets fixed in #11598.
18:17:22 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[targeted-commands] * 0.26-a0-638-g8af1c61: Don't quiver dangerous spells by default 10(3 minutes ago, 4 files, 6+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8af1c61283f5
18:47:01 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> Implojin: man those jellyfishes were great. what character were you playing? i could certainly consider repositioning or some kind of status effect
18:52:06 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[bogged-down] * 0.26-a0-647-g47cb161: Add Woodweal description 10(22 seconds ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/47cb161e9d93
18:52:24 <Cheibriados> Branch pull/1533 updated to be equal with bogged-down: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1533
18:52:37 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> fixed the woodweal description, oops
19:15:20 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[targeted-commands] * 0.26-a0-639-gda798a9: Update docs for quiver miscast severity option 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/da798a92f305
19:15:20 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[targeted-commands] * 0.26-a0-640-g4b04f01: Allow quivering wands 10(2 minutes ago, 5 files, 155+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4b04f015f88a
19:44:49 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
20:28:54 <twelwe> which server has the swamp branch?
20:58:53 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[targeted-commands] * 0.26-a0-641-gd3fcf46: Simplify default shift-tab behavior 10(6 minutes ago, 4 files, 32+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d3fcf46d37f8
21:16:33 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[targeted-commands] * 0.26-a0-642-g414941b: Trigger untargeted actions directly on autofire 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/414941bb7589
21:18:12 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[targeted-commands] * 0.26-a0-642-g184ff20: Trigger untargeted actions directly on autofire 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/184ff203d9e2
21:35:27 <Cheibriados> 03wjchen02 {advil} 07* 0.26-a0-632-g926a82b: Handle dynamic DPI in webtiles glyphs mode 10(11 days ago, 2 files, 4+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/926a82b99e44
21:47:05 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.26-a0-632-g926a82b99e (34)
22:41:05 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> if anyone was curious, the 'bloated husks' are pretty strongly inspired by https://mythipedia.fandom.com/wiki/Wight
22:41:26 <Discord|> <10P​leasingFungus> i'm quite fond of implojin's comparison to hollow knight's jellyfish, tho
22:51:48 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy