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05:11:35 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
06:58:21 <Cheibriados> New branch created: pull/1549 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1549
06:58:21 <Cheibriados> 03Umer Shaikh02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1549 * 0.26-a0-607-g5a84bf8: Remove bad position clamp for peeking through stairs 10(49 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5a84bf887c0f
17:54:38 <Henzell> corvin (L11 OgAM) ERROR in 'tags.cc' at line 4586: Invalid item: (quantity: 0) gold piece (D:12)
18:22:20 <Aliscans> Hi. A quick question about Wu Jian. Are you supposed to be able to miss a target with Wall Jump because of your "unstable footing"?
18:25:57 <Aliscans> It happened when I had a character attack something, ending up in shallow water.
18:44:55 <Discord|> <08w​ormsofcan> yes
18:45:29 <Discord|> <08w​ormsofcan> otherwise it would be advantageous to wall jump when you're in shallow water with walls
18:53:16 <Aliscans> From what I can see, being in shallow water doesn't make any difference. What matters is where you will be at the end of the attack.
19:00:40 <Aliscans> I thought I should check what is intended, though, as the description makes it sound as though you're attacking from mid-air.
19:01:39 <Discord|> <08w​ormsofcan> if you didn't check shallow water when landing on wall jump, it would optimal to just repeatedly wall jump if you can't reach land
19:01:45 <Discord|> <08w​ormsofcan> assuming you want to kill something
19:02:04 <Discord|> <08w​ormsofcan> since you're skipping all the shallow water checks that would normally occur if you tried regular melee
19:02:31 <twelwe> i thought the attacked occured "in the air"
19:03:24 <Discord|> <08w​ormsofcan> I don't think that makes sense given that you attack every monster around your landing point
19:04:11 <twelwe> gonna check the text now, i'm.. of course, playing jian as always
19:04:55 <twelwe> "you attack the ogre from above"
19:05:37 <Discord|> <08w​ormsofcan> this does make me wonder if there are weird WJC optimizations that occur from walljumping over irregular terrain
19:05:54 <Discord|> <08w​ormsofcan> is the delay determined by your starting square, your ending square or the squares you have to travel
19:06:05 <twelwe> there are. you can jump over deep water with the right terrain. certain baileys have this
19:06:23 <Discord|> <08w​ormsofcan> because in the first two cases it sounds like wall jumping can be faster/slower than walking
19:07:32 <twelwe> does it matter too much if thats the case? jian is after all the god with good movement abilities. i'd play it even if it only had serpent lash
19:07:52 <Aliscans> You don't get all that many opportunities to "wall jump" repeatedly, especially not on wet levels.
19:08:25 <twelwe> excepting formicid. but they don't have swiftness anymore and end up relying on stealth with walljumps to get away
19:08:44 <Discord|> <08w​ormsofcan> well the good movement abilities cost piety
19:09:43 <twelwe> not much. by the time you`ve recovered exh, you probably built up that used piety already
19:09:43 <twelwe> i better stfu
19:09:43 <twelwe> already got this god nerfed enough
19:09:53 <Discord|> <08w​ormsofcan> lol
20:21:57 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.26-a0-607-g4e331d2: Simplify Vampiric Draining 10(2 minutes ago, 2 files, 7+ 16-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4e331d26ce73
20:32:22 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.26-a0-607-g4e331d26ce (34)
20:42:25 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.26-a0-608-gb552214: Don't show withering on non-plants 10(17 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b552214b31ab
20:42:25 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.26-a0-609-g2bb1e3e: Withered plant fixes 10(47 seconds ago, 7 files, 34+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2bb1e3ea851c
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22:26:34 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
22:58:06 <Rotatell> warriortoast (L9 MiFi) Crash caused by signal #6: Aborted (D:8)
23:34:36 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.26-a0-610-g3e9335b: Re-remove the black knight's barding 10(63 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3e9335bbc7c1
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