00:04:36 <floraline> aw man we're postponing? i just scaled up my server
00:05:08 <floraline> do yall know how long you are pushing it back? i wonder if it's worth resizing again for the time being
00:06:25 <cebolla> they said a week earlier
00:06:34 <gammafunk> it's going to be held on June 12, yeah
00:08:24 <floraline> the extra boost is only about $5 a week, i guess it'd be more trouble than it's worth to do it again twice
00:09:57 <floraline> :q
00:12:05 <cebolla> shut off betato so that more people use kelbi during the boost
00:46:57 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
01:01:43 <PleasingFungus> beware the $5 cost...
01:13:40 <gammafunk> prices are lower on the moon
01:18:47 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.26-a0-50-gc4d14cd: Crash rather than do excursion during levelgen 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c4d14cd84273
01:18:59 <Cheibriados> New branch created: pull/1445 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1445
01:18:59 <Cheibriados> 03Byrel Mitchell02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1445 * 0.26-a0-44-g17ae118: Fix foxfire attacking out of LoS 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/17ae1184147b
02:14:55 <PleasingFungus> advil: as you might've noticed, your assert triggers!
02:14:59 <PleasingFungus> (on my save)
02:20:02 <gammafunk> he's trying to crash your frog
02:26:53 <travis-ci> The build was broken. (master - c4d14cd #13565 : advil): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/694518753
02:27:28 <PleasingFungus> yikes
02:27:56 <PleasingFungus> !tell advil your assert is crashing abyss gen in stress test too...
02:27:56 <Sequell> PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let advil know.
02:27:58 <PleasingFungus> this is fun
02:28:19 <PleasingFungus> i'm reading through to figure out why makeitem is triggering set_ident_type
02:28:45 <PleasingFungus> ah ha
02:29:05 <PleasingFungus> manuals are ID'd when they're generated
02:29:27 <PleasingFungus> makeitem.cc:1512
02:30:02 <PleasingFungus> that seems strongly wrong
02:31:20 <PleasingFungus> %git 2c9a30dacb1
02:31:20 <Cheibriados> 07Brannock02 * 0.20-a0-830-g2c9a30d: Pre-identify manuals 10(3 years, 3 months ago, 3 files, 8+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2c9a30dacb1b
02:31:27 <PleasingFungus> Manual identification was broken in 2c266a969726 - step-over would    identify only the first manual in any given game, and all subsequent    manuals had to be picked up to identify their types.        Fixing this using the book/wand autoidentification approach causes much    more issues than it truly solves. So we take a different approach: all
02:31:27 <PleasingFungus> manuals come pre-identified.
02:31:33 <PleasingFungus> classic crawlcode: that causes more issues too!
02:31:53 <PleasingFungus> i'll sleep on it
02:32:26 <PleasingFungus> the commit immediately before that one was 'disallow leaping fungi', which seems like an extremely good change
02:33:40 <Mandevil> I am trying to find URLs of game/milestone logs for Crawl servers. Is there anywhere to look at?
02:35:34 <runrin> not sure if anyone is aware, but it seems like https://crawl.develz.org/info is not working
02:36:17 <runrin> Fatal error: Class 'SQLite3' not found in /var/www/crawl.develz.org/htdocs/info/index.php on line 140
03:04:55 <alexjurkiewicz> Mandevil: sequell's sources.yml file
03:04:59 <alexjurkiewicz> ??sequell[github
03:05:02 <Sequell> sequell[1/4]: The ##crawl bot, handling game statistics, the {learndb}, and more. Operated by greensnark. See http://github.com/crawl/sequell/blob/master/docs/listgame.md  If you want the source, go here: http://github.com/crawl/sequell
03:18:37 <gammafunk> http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/0-25-tournament-delayed-but-tournament-page-now-available
03:42:41 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.26-a0-50-gc4d14cd842 (34)
03:43:07 <Kelbell> Fork (bcadrencrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.22.1-2775-gba4e2f8f9f
03:53:26 <Mandevil> alexjurkiewicz: Ah, thanks.
03:54:00 <Kelbell> Fork (bloatcrawl2) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.25-a0-1198-g763ebf1e5c
03:55:52 <kramin> nice new tourney page
03:55:58 <kramin> but it need light mode :P
03:56:01 <kramin> but it needs light mode :P
03:56:10 <kramin> oops used to discord editing
05:19:40 <Mandevil> What is the canonical way of determining that log entry is for a win? Matching "tmgs" for "escaped with the Orb"?
05:21:37 <Mandevil> Hm, or is it "ktyp" : "winning"?
05:25:26 <amalloy> !kw won
05:25:27 <Sequell> Built-in: won => ktyp=winning
05:25:35 <Mandevil> Ah, nice.
05:56:46 -!- TigerbotHesh_ is now known as TigerbotHesh
05:57:15 -!- exprez1358 is now known as exprez135
06:07:17 <Mandevil> !kw points
06:07:18 <Sequell> No keyword 'points'
06:07:21 <Mandevil> !kw score
06:07:22 <Sequell> No keyword 'score'
06:16:10 -!- Yermak_ is now known as Yermak
06:17:08 <alexjurkiewicz> Mandevil: sc
06:17:14 <alexjurkiewicz> !lg . max=sc
06:17:15 <Sequell> 2288. chequers the Bringer of Light (L27 GrFi of The Shining One), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2015-11-21 22:20:14, with 22490806 points after 67191 turns and 4:06:04.
06:27:32 <Cheibriados> New branch created: pull/1446 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1446
06:27:32 <Cheibriados> 03Alex Jurkiewicz02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1446 * 0.26-a0-44-g39b5639: Make the Crypt monster list tougher 10(6 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/39b5639af258
06:52:06 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
06:58:05 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
07:00:06 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
08:38:12 <alexjurkiewicz> Mandevil: i'm open to feedback on the new tourney page design if you have suggestions
10:11:29 <PleasingFungus> wrt the manual / level gen excursion crash bug
10:11:34 <PleasingFungus> it seems like there are two plausible fixes
10:12:35 <PleasingFungus> 1. Rather than identifying manuals on generation, identify them when the player first enters the level. Except that doesn't fix things like gozag shops, acquirement, or Abyss.
10:13:40 <PleasingFungus> 2. Identify all *types* of manual on character creation, and then mark each manual as identified on generation.
10:14:20 <PleasingFungus> The latter seems right... but involves save compat code that makes me nervous.
10:15:14 <PleasingFungus> Anyway, I'll keep looking at it.
10:20:19 -!- jolamb_ is now known as jolamb
10:27:29 <advil> 1 doesn't seem right to me (also, it's tricky to implement well)
10:27:29 <Sequell> advil: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it.
10:27:39 <advil> the simplest fix would be to just condition that shopping list call on something
10:28:27 <advil> crawl_state.generating level would get this case
10:37:35 <PleasingFungus> well
10:37:52 <PleasingFungus> we shouldn't need to reference shopping lists at all when identifying manuals, right?
10:38:15 <PleasingFungus> all previous manuals will already be ID'd, so no prices will change
10:38:44 <PleasingFungus> but I increasingly suspect option (2) is cleaner and more viable
10:39:52 <advil> the shopping list call is deep in set_ident_type as a side effect
10:40:13 <advil> which isn't how I'd design it but seems kind of hard to change
10:40:28 <PleasingFungus> we don't have to call set_ident_type at all, is my point
10:40:31 <PleasingFungus> let me poke at this for a while
10:41:09 <advil> yeah, that would be the not-as-quick fix :-)
10:41:09 <advil> it makes me wonder if there's other cases where that side effect is weird too
10:41:28 <advil> anything that is somehow id'd out of los
10:41:46 <PleasingFungus> possibly. this is the only one called during item *generation*, at least
10:42:01 <advil> ah you checked?
10:42:11 <PleasingFungus> i mean, i grepped makeitem.cc
10:42:29 <PleasingFungus> i suppose something else could be called indirectly
10:43:02 <PleasingFungus> hm, i'm fairly certain this set_ident_type call does literally nothing except cause crashes and other bugs
10:43:12 <PleasingFungus> nothing that function does is relevant to manuals
10:43:56 <PleasingFungus> i guess autoinscribing manuals could be relevant, but surely we don't want to do that at generation anyway
10:44:01 <advil> this change probably came at a time when books were a thing
10:44:05 <PleasingFungus> yes
10:44:09 <PleasingFungus> and before branch generation
10:45:09 <PleasingFungus> hm, i think this is a one line fix
10:45:31 <advil> man I have been staring at this for like a half hour, is there a really obvious mistake that I am blind to: ASSERT(!crawl_state.generating_level || level_id::current().branch == BRANCH_ABYSS);
10:45:52 <Pinkbeast> Operator precedence?
10:46:06 <PleasingFungus> is the current level id the one the player is in or the one being generated
10:46:40 <PleasingFungus> i suppose probably they're the same here
10:46:40 <advil> the one that is being generated
10:47:43 <advil> Pinkbeast not seeing how operator precedence matters (it is triggering on what should be false || true)
10:48:07 <PleasingFungus> this is re the stress test crashes, I assume?
10:48:29 <advil> yes, level excursion is on purpose in the abyss (it goes and picks up features from levels that have generated)
10:48:40 <advil> I had forgotten about that
10:48:54 <PleasingFungus> oh
10:48:59 <PleasingFungus> then how would that prevent a crash?
10:48:59 <advil> the crash in your case is really because there is a half-initialized item
10:49:25 <PleasingFungus> i mean, how would the second part of that || prevent the assert from firing?
10:49:39 <PleasingFungus> if you expect the current branch to be not abyss anyway
10:49:45 <PleasingFungus> also i'm pushing a fix in a couple minutes
10:49:48 <advil> I do expect the current branch to be abyss
10:50:02 <advil> this check is right before the excursion
10:50:56 <Pinkbeast> advil: Yeah, sorry, my mistake
10:51:31 <advil> well I didn't make it clear exactly which case was misbehaving
10:52:15 <advil> oh haha
10:54:03 <PleasingFungus> in that case
10:54:14 <advil> (it's the return to abyss that is crashing)
10:54:16 <PleasingFungus> that sounds like the assertion is behaving correctly and not firing when there's an excursion from abyss to another level
10:54:17 <PleasingFungus> oh
10:54:32 <PleasingFungus> i was going to guess 'a sub-excursion to yet another level'
10:55:04 <advil> well, that would be hilarious if possible
10:55:14 <PleasingFungus> live the dream
10:58:29 <advil> I can actually imagine all sorts of fun levelgen possibilities using excursions, it's too bad they'd be so incredibly messy (and not work well with seeding)
11:02:09 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.26-a0-51-g379118c: Remove the manual ID system 10(14 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/379118c2f862
11:03:32 <PleasingFungus> please read the commit description, I put a lot of work into it :)
11:03:34 <PleasingFungus> also hi gammafunk!
11:03:46 <gammafunk> o/
11:03:53 <PleasingFungus> \o
11:03:59 <PleasingFungus> check out the sick commit i just made
11:04:41 <gammafunk> %git
11:04:41 <Cheibriados> 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.26-a0-51-g379118c: Remove the manual ID system 10(17 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/379118c2f862
11:04:54 <PleasingFungus> a long-awaited change imo
11:05:16 <gammafunk> Thanks for getting us a lock on the Game of the Year award
11:05:25 <PleasingFungus> i'm here for you
11:06:05 <PleasingFungus> really i just want to be able to play my geriatric frog
11:08:03 <gammafunk> always nice when you have to fix and obscure bug just to play
11:08:03 <gammafunk> hints at the design space of a special Developer Mode
11:48:13 <travis-ci> The build is still failing. (master - 379118c #13567 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/694687112
12:10:36 <advil> not just bug fixing and in ##crawl-dev, but playing crawl in the first place
12:18:02 <gammafunk> Hear No Players, Fix No Bug, Play No Crawl
12:18:39 <gammafunk> I got an update from Darshan that he'll hopefully have time to work on sequell stuff this weekend
12:19:00 <advil> ah great
12:19:38 <advil> also, I have been wondering if it would make sense to run a more limited version of sequell so that there's a way to do milestone queries
12:26:32 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.26-a0-52-gd53d4cd: Allow excursions from the abyss 10(64 seconds ago, 1 file, 9+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d53d4cd058f8
12:35:25 <cebolla> is this still good?
12:35:27 <cebolla> ??ssh[2
12:35:30 <Sequell> ssh[2/4]: faze's bash function for crawl: https://gist.github.com/4022518. put this in your .bashrc and drop cao_key in ~/.ssh. Nice, easy syntax: crawl (cao|cdo|cszo).
12:36:31 <gammafunk> well, it's fine, but it only has two working servers defined in it
12:37:57 <cebolla> s-z is gone, are there new ones?
12:38:34 <|amethyst> ??servers
12:38:34 <Sequell> servers[1/3]: USA: {cao}, {cbro}, {cko}; EU: {CXC} {CDO}, {cue}; KR: {cwz}; JP: {lld}; AU: {cpo}
12:39:35 <cebolla> i mean for ssh.  right now internet has gotten too slow to play webtiles
12:39:56 <cebolla> ??servers[2
12:39:59 <Sequell> servers[2/3]: Website list / instructions http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/howto
12:40:49 <cebolla> wow, a lot of them do ssh now
12:45:50 <|amethyst> I think all the North American and European servers have it, and none of the others
12:49:41 <advil> I keep meaning to figure out how to do this myself, but there really should be a link to that server list page from http://crawl.develz.org/ directly
12:50:24 <cebolla> that "locate best server" thing on the website never works for me, would it be as effective to just "ping" the servers from the terminal?
12:50:41 <cebolla> or is some aspect of connection other than ping more important
13:01:30 <advil> it's just going by location I believe
13:01:42 <advil> if it's not working at all, you may have set your browser to deny the location request
13:02:36 <advil> oh, it's probably not working in some browsers because "A Geolocation request can only be fulfilled in a secure context."
13:03:35 <advil> https://crawl.develz.org/play.htm does work for me, so probably links should go there instead
13:03:52 <advil> and/or a redirect
13:11:01 <travis-ci> The build was fixed. (master - d53d4cd #13568 : advil): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/694718000
13:27:59 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.26-a0-52-gd53d4cd (34)
14:24:04 <CaptBlasto> Hey, hopefully this is a good spot to post this. I found a bug with the tournament website. On the clan page, if your username has capital letters in it you get a 404 not found if you click to go to the player page. It looks like all the player page urls are in lowercase, so I think the clan page just has to change the links to an all lowercase
14:24:05 <CaptBlasto> version of the username.
14:36:23 <gammafunk> CaptBlasto: thanks, we'll take a look
14:37:02 <gammafunk> CaptBlasto: actually, do you have an example of this?
14:37:16 <CaptBlasto> My clan page has it
14:37:27 <CaptBlasto> https://crawl.develz.org/tournament/0.25/clans/talkingtime-captblasto.html
14:37:45 <CaptBlasto> click on my name and I get a 404 not found
14:37:58 <Kelbell> Raoeoiku (L21 MuNe) ASSERT(!crawl_state.generating_level) in 'files.cc' at line 3000 failed. (Abyss:3)
14:38:15 <gammafunk> oh I see, the user listing on the clan page itself
14:38:17 <gammafunk> thanks
14:39:02 <CaptBlasto> no problem, glad to help out.
14:53:28 <Kelbell> Heliophobic (L11 MiBe) ASSERT(!crawl_state.generating_level) in 'files.cc' at line 3000 failed. (Abyss:1)
15:01:35 <advil> hm surprised cko didn't rebuild
15:03:56 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.26-a0-52-gd53d4cd058 (34)
15:04:05 <advil> !version
15:04:10 <Henzell> trunk: 0.26-a0-52-gd53d4cd;  0.25: 0.25-b1-23-ge2ad7d5;  0.24: 0.24.1-14-gf8d2b50;  0.23: 0.23.3-3-gaaff5ab;  0.22: 0.22.3-3-g34f245f;  0.21: 0.21.3-3-g218456f;  0.20: 0.20.2-3-g29329e0;  0.19: 0.19.6-3-g7d5932f;  0.18: 0.18.2-3-g5ac21b8;  0.17: 0.17.3-4-g93a25c6;  0.16: 0.16.3-4-gc506b73;  0.15: 0.15.3-3-g8e88d0d;  0.14: 0.14.3-3-g02348ce;  0.13: 0.13.3-3-g4e9f7b7;  0.12: 0.12.4-3-g8567966;  0.11: 0.11.4-3-g4668e67;..
15:04:40 <advil> &versions
15:04:45 <Sequell> CAO: none, CBRO: none, CDO: none, CKO: none, CPO: none, CUE: none, CWZ: none, CXC: none, LLD: none
15:04:52 <advil> sad
15:04:55 <advil> ^version
15:10:33 -!- elliptic_ is now known as elliptic
15:16:51 <gammafunk> advil: oh neat, does that !version command actually read all installed crawl versions?
15:16:58 <gammafunk> well...I guess I can see that it does!
15:17:35 <gammafunk> alas we cannot see which 0.10 version we have installed
15:17:35 <gammafunk> unless that works in PM
15:17:35 <gammafunk> neat, it does
15:21:20 <advil> yeah, I fixed it the other day when doing updating stuff
15:21:28 <advil> it was broken by encoding issues
15:21:58 <advil> (need to explicitly specify LANG when running crawl binaries > 0.10 on CAO for Reasons)
15:49:59 <gammafunk> ??tournament
15:49:59 <Sequell> tournament[1/3]: The 0.25 tournament will run from 20:00 UTC Friday 5 June through 20:00 UTC Sunday 21 June. Tournament page: https://crawl.develz.org/tournament/0.25/
15:50:40 <gammafunk> !learn edit tournament[1] s/5 June/12 June/
15:50:40 <Sequell> tournament[1/3]: The 0.25 tournament will run from 20:00 UTC Friday 12 June through 20:00 UTC Sunday 21 June. Tournament page: https://crawl.develz.org/tournament/0.25/
15:50:40 <gammafunk> !learn edit tournament[1] s/21 June/28 June/
15:50:40 <Sequell> tournament[1/3]: The 0.25 tournament will run from 20:00 UTC Friday 12 June through 20:00 UTC Sunday 28 June. Tournament page: https://crawl.develz.org/tournament/0.25/
16:05:24 -!- kate--- is now known as kate-
18:23:45 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.26-a0-52-gd53d4cd058 (34)
18:45:53 <alexjurkiewicz> the bug reported about tourney website above was fixed by someone else submitting a pull request(!!)
18:50:20 <gammafunk> impossible
18:51:10 <gammafunk> now we just have to make a wordpress asking people to word-wrap their dccs_tourney commit messages!
18:51:18 <gammafunk> it's the never ending git PR struggle
18:58:51 <alexjurkiewicz> :P
18:58:56 <alexjurkiewicz> I only let a few get too long
18:59:07 <alexjurkiewicz> linus told me 80 characters is no longer necessary
18:59:56 <gammafunk> reading that through my 80x24 terminal, I'm shaking with rage
19:09:26 <Henzell> freshwaterlynx (L10 VSIE) Crash caused by signal #6: Aborted (D:9)
19:13:02 <alexjurkiewicz> btw, i'm trying to get in touch with korean artists to ask about permission to use their images
19:21:28 <alexjurkiewicz> ebering: "It says banners of tier 1,2,3 are worth 1,2,4 points respectively. Does this mean that you can earn up to 4 points for a particular banner category, or up to 7?"
19:30:22 <gammafunk> alexjurkiewicz: oh, I have some info from hong about that, let me see if I can find
19:30:59 <gammafunk> it was sort of confusing due to his wording
19:44:04 <gammafunk> alexjurkiewicz: that pick of the minotaur dragging the vault guard, that's by cws, who has given us permission to use it
19:44:22 <gammafunk> oh, it's already a title screen
19:44:52 <alexjurkiewicz> yep. As a first pass I am going to replace all non-title images without explicit permission with title images
19:45:51 <alexjurkiewicz> At the moment the only non-title image permission I have is the mummy zig picture, which is fanart from a UV4 viewer who gave thumbsup for this usage. Do you want me to collect the permissions somewhere?
19:46:54 <gammafunk> alexjurkiewicz: yes, that would be helpful if you could. I'm not sure where we might store these images, I guess in dcss_tourney?
19:47:30 <gammafunk> some could theoretically become title splash screens, but that requires further editing
19:47:38 <gammafunk> or are they already in dcss_tourney
19:49:56 <gammafunk> alexjurkiewicz: ok, here's something: https://webzook.net/bbs/board.php?bo_table=webzook_pic&wr_id=4
19:50:13 <gammafunk> a post on the cwz forum (they have their own forum) where they upload splash image submissions
19:50:28 <gammafunk> that post says anyone putting the https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/ url in their post is granting CC0
19:51:26 <gammafunk> alexjurkiewicz: and if you look on that page, it has links to other posts of people submitting images, and I see some have this url
19:51:31 <gammafunk> e.g. https://webzook.net/bbs/board.php?bo_table=webzook_pic&wr_id=17
19:51:48 <gammafunk> and https://webzook.net/bbs/board.php?bo_table=webzook_pic&wr_id=15 (by froggy again)
19:52:05 <gammafunk> another good one of a gnoll: https://webzook.net/bbs/board.php?bo_table=webzook_pic&wr_id=16
19:52:10 <gammafunk> er
19:52:17 <gammafunk> apparently that's a kobold gladiator, sorry
19:53:01 <gammafunk> I don't know if there's an easier way to browse these
19:53:01 <gammafunk> and obviously only applies to the ones by cwz artists, not others from various artists where we have no proper communication
19:53:37 <gammafunk> ooh, the KoGl one depicts an rmsl scarf
19:53:42 <gammafunk> did we make this a title screen yet?
20:09:33 <alexjurkiewicz> thanks for finding that. I tried finding these pages on the board last night but no luck
20:10:27 <kate-> the new tourney page looks neat, i'm curious if a couple of the banners still have the old restrictions they used to? like no formicids for the reach d:15 in <27mins banner, it's not currently mentioned
20:10:28 <alexjurkiewicz> I don't quite understand how the board works
20:10:34 <alexjurkiewicz> for example, this page: https://webzook.net/bbs/board.php?bo_table=webzook_pic&wr_id=4
20:10:46 <gammafunk> yeah it is hard to navigate
20:10:49 <alexjurkiewicz> there's a link to cc0. Doe that mean the octopode stabbing the ogre is CC0?
20:10:59 <alexjurkiewicz> or is the octopode thumbnail a link to a different post?
20:11:37 <gammafunk> alexjurkiewicz: oh, so that's a post telling people they can use the link to grant cc0 for official project to use
20:11:52 <gammafunk> the main post from the artist is at the bottom
20:11:54 <gammafunk> so e.g. https://webzook.net/bbs/board.php?bo_table=webzook_pic&wr_id=9
20:12:00 <alexjurkiewicz> kate-: I think they were mostly removed
20:12:16 <gammafunk> below the application at the top are froggy's images, and he includes the cc0 link
20:12:21 <gammafunk> hence is granting permission
20:12:33 <gammafunk> oh
20:12:38 <gammafunk> er, I guess he doesn't in that post!
20:12:41 <gammafunk> but in other posts they do
20:12:49 <gammafunk> I think  they didn't before he made that post you linked to
20:13:09 <gammafunk> alexjurkiewicz: https://webzook.net/bbs/board.php?bo_table=webzook_pic&wr_id=15 you can see him adding link in this one
20:13:25 <alexjurkiewicz> just realised that imp on the TSO Minotaur is Trog, not a random Crimson Imp
20:13:26 <gammafunk> I think froggy's stuff is just fine to use as he's given us CC0 permission for his stuff from what I understand
20:14:09 <alexjurkiewicz> heh. So the images will be like 50% froggy then
20:15:03 <alexjurkiewicz> 50% froggy, 48% non-froggy titles, 2% Mu^G zig
20:15:03 <gammafunk> alexjurkiewicz: well, those cws images too
20:15:14 <gammafunk> https://webzook.net/bbs/board.php?bo_table=webzook_pic&wr_id=17 this one
20:15:18 <gammafunk> and that KoGl one
20:15:20 <gammafunk> both have cc0
20:15:30 <gammafunk> not sure if KoGl is splash image already, it should be though
20:15:32 <gammafunk> it's quite good
20:15:33 <ebering> kate-: alexjurkiewicz: doesn't have the info, the old restrictions should still be there
20:15:42 <ebering> I need to review the banner
20:15:43 <ebering> s
20:16:08 <kate-> ah ok, looking at the descriptions it seems like most of them do actually mention the restrictions i'd expect, that tier 1 makhleb one might be the only one missing an obvious restriction
20:16:36 <gammafunk> alexjurkiewicz: yeah, recommend this if you haven't used already: https://webzook.net/bbs/board.php?bo_table=webzook_pic&wr_id=16
20:16:44 <gammafunk> something about "dodging" would be appropriate
20:16:56 <gammafunk> since it depicts a scarf of rmsl in action
20:18:02 <gammafunk> sadly I'm not sure we have anything for the various other goofy ones depicting e.g. fannar, sigmund, vine stalker biting lom lobon
20:18:21 <gammafunk> and if there are more of these I don't know how to get a listing of them from this forum
20:19:09 <alexjurkiewicz> v. cool
20:19:32 <alexjurkiewicz> I will look this weekend at doing the image replacements
20:20:33 <gammafunk> cook, I've restarted tournament test with that clan link fix; not sure if I have anything else to work on right now
20:20:35 <gammafunk> would like to test the nemelex choice choosing..oh, and I need to update our ban mechanism
20:21:19 <gammafunk> need to do some investigations of our new db structure to see what tables need modification now
20:22:08 <gammafunk> s/cook/cool/
20:37:43 <kate-> alexjurkiewicz: heh, i realised halfway through setting it up as a PR that i could've just committed (but also i don't want to mess with tourney stuff with no clue what i'm doing)
20:39:43 <alexjurkiewicz> It is very nice to have your editorial gaze on the wording
21:32:56 <Kelbell> vt (L24 SpWr) Crash caused by signal #6: Aborted (Zot:1)
21:44:07 <gammafunk> advil: you wouldn't happen to know why this fedhas-sprint-specific file got created on cbro for 0.25, would you?
21:44:38 <advil> what file?
21:46:12 <gammafunk> doh!
21:46:13 <gammafunk> sorry
21:46:23 <gammafunk> http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/meta/0.25/
21:46:32 <gammafunk> the fedhas file you see in that listing
21:47:06 <gammafunk> seems like it's a dup of the regular sprint logfile (at least for now?)
21:47:22 <advil> huh, no idea
21:47:34 <advil> is that only on cbro?
21:47:38 <advil> and that version?
21:47:40 <gammafunk> let me see
21:48:34 <gammafunk> https://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/meta/0.25/ doesn't have, but only one sprint game
21:48:38 <gammafunk> https://crawl.kelbi.org/crawl/meta/0.25/ also doesn't have anything like that
21:48:48 <gammafunk> and has a number of sprint games played
21:49:16 <gammafunk> ah, but lld has a bunch: http://lazy-life.ddo.jp:8080/meta/0.25/
21:49:35 <gammafunk> hrm, and they're empty?
21:49:37 <gammafunk> giving 404
21:49:39 <advil> there's files like that for 0.24 too
21:49:44 <advil> http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/meta/0.24/
21:49:52 <gammafunk> oh yeah
21:49:56 <gammafunk> wonder how this happens
21:50:20 <gammafunk> well I guess it's nothing to worry about per se
21:51:00 <gammafunk> all the ones on lld return 404, but not idea if that's because of http server config or what
21:51:27 <gammafunk> And if anyone is wondering about vt's crash above, it's at https://crawl.kelbi.org/crawl/morgue/vt/crash-vt-20200605-013249.txt
21:51:54 <gammafunk> and he reports that he had just killed a monster, gaining xp and triggering the skill menu due to a training target, and had been idling on that screen when it crashed
21:52:16 <advil> if you disconnect on that screen there's a crash
21:52:36 <gammafunk> oh ok, so known issue, I'll pass that on
21:54:34 <advil> yeah, it's unfortunately not solvable without a big refactor of training targets afaict
21:58:29 <alexjurkiewicz> didn't vt implement a bunch of stuff for training targets / skill screen?
21:58:42 <alexjurkiewicz> fix his own crash :P
22:01:12 <gammafunk> well actually, that was one of advil's first major projects!
22:01:23 <gammafunk> he basically made training targets himself
22:01:33 <gammafunk> wasn't vt; vt may have contributed a bug fix or two at some point
22:02:06 <advil> this issue is a result of (or made worse by, at least) the exact training target stuff that got merged while I was on break, not sure who contributed that
22:02:17 <gammafunk> ah, right
22:02:29 <gammafunk> the preventing overflow xp from just being distributed stuff
22:06:02 <advil> yeah, the hardest issue is when this screen pops up in the middle of world_reacts
22:22:19 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
22:47:27 <alexjurkiewicz> that was vt wasnt it!!
22:51:51 <gammafunk> that part was probably vt
22:52:23 <gammafunk> however advil is a guru and has declared the problem difficult, so vt gets a pass
22:55:21 -!- sedition_ is now known as sedition
23:17:11 <alexjurkiewicz> fair
23:45:23 <advil> !source _score_file_name
23:45:24 <Sequell> 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/hiscores.cc#L80
23:46:18 <advil> !tell gammafunk the score files for sprint are written per map in _score_file_name I think because they aren't directly comparable. I'm not sure why cbro is writing them in that directory or where other servers are writing them though
23:46:24 <Sequell> advil: OK, I'll let gammafunk know.