03:12:12 <Rotatell> Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.25-a0-869-g05d4e06 (34)
03:22:39 <Cheibriados> Damnation damages after 'Makhleb's gain health from killing' activated. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=12246 by sdynet
03:31:29 <Kelbell> Fork (bcadrencrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.22.1-2641-g63339084c6
07:33:31 <Cheibriados> New branch created: pull/1378 (3 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1378
07:33:31 <Cheibriados> 03Alex Jurkiewicz02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1378 * 0.25-a0-870-g9fb99d2: Change show_more default to false 10(15 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9fb99d2abfcb
07:33:31 <Cheibriados> 03Alex Jurkiewicz02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1378 * 0.25-a0-871-g59cbf73: Change explore_auto_rest default to true 10(12 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/59cbf73697e9
07:33:31 <Cheibriados> 03Alex Jurkiewicz02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1378 * 0.25-a0-872-gcf72cde: Change auto_butcher default to always 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cf72cde51a38
08:55:56 <ebering> !tell gammafunk teleport other is marked as uselesss in gauntlets but I can cast it and it works
08:55:57 <Sequell> ebering: OK, I'll let gammafunk know.
08:56:16 <ebering> !tell gammafunk ditto lesser beckoning (which probably should not be marked useless in a gauntlet)
08:56:16 <Sequell> ebering: OK, I'll let gammafunk know.
08:58:55 <Ge0ff> There was a discussion about animating tiles yesterday. But Webtiles already support real-time animation for altars, torches and some branch entrances.
08:59:12 <Ge0ff> There's the tile_realtime_anim option for that. I used it for a year and haven't seen any problems with it.
08:59:20 <Ge0ff> Maybe it makes sense to enable this option by default?
11:29:10 <Goratrix> I think it's disabled on webtiles due to performance concerns? it's on by default in local tiles
11:30:29 <Goratrix> but I think the animation discussion was more about monsters being animated, and there is no such monster currently, I guess? the individual frames would need to be drawn, and then there is the problem of tiles that are composed dynamically, with equipment
11:33:23 <Goratrix> for example there's a version of the deep elf elementalist tile that can be animated/cycled here: https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11340
13:06:44 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.25-a0-869-g05d4e06 (34)
14:10:08 <Ge0ff> Goratrix: There are monsters with animated tiles: Killer Klowns. They cycle through several frames, in both Web and Local tiles, but only as a reaction to user input.
14:10:22 <Ge0ff> If you don't press any buttons, the Klown's tile will stay the same.
14:10:39 <Ge0ff> On the other hand, when tile_realtime_anim is set to true, some tiles, for example altars, will change every 250ms, *without* user input.
14:11:31 <Ge0ff> Also, tile_realtime_anim is available only on WebTiles, so I'm not sure how it can be "on by default in local tiles." You probably meant something else.
15:07:31 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
18:23:47 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.25-a0-869-g05d4e06a41 (34)
19:09:13 -!- jfcaron_ is now known as jfcaron
21:37:32 <alexjurkiewicz> wow. Another webtiles option i never knew about
22:00:32 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 07* 0.25-a0-870-gfe7ed1d: Further miscast simplifications 10(28 minutes ago, 6 files, 32+ 58-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fe7ed1d377b9
22:03:39 <Cheibriados> 03Implojin02 {ebering} 07* 0.25-a0-871-ge280b87: Expose player::get_noise_perception() through clua. 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 14+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e280b876b2ef
22:04:33 <gammafunk> implementing features requested by 4chan people 😡
22:05:15 <ebering> it's a good patch, and I wouldn't paint them all with the same brush
22:05:33 <ebering> Implojin's tavern comments on positional magic were v. helpful and 100% constructive
22:05:42 <gammafunk> oh, I would paint them all with the same brush, but I'm joking
22:05:50 <ebering> oh
22:05:54 <ebering> oops
22:05:57 <gammafunk> Implojin is a longtime crawl person who's not *terrible*
22:06:34 <gammafunk> he is actually a good tavern poster, and I think he's mellowed a bit over the years anyhow
22:07:14 <gammafunk> he and that spice rack and that dck probably don't use 4chan any more, I'd guess
22:08:58 <gammafunk> I do remember when PF kindly asked dck to edit his tavern posts a little bit for verbosity and clarity
22:09:26 <gammafunk> dck's response was to delete his tavern account in protest
22:09:34 <gammafunk> the good old days of tavern; gonna miss that if we ever move to e.g. Discourse
22:09:45 <ebering> I can respect a principled stand like that
22:11:27 <Cheibriados> 03Alex Jurkiewicz02 {ebering} 07* 0.25-a0-872-g3fe85ef: Let scroll of immolation affect summons 10(10 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3fe85ef339e6
22:12:01 <gammafunk> uh oh
22:12:45 <gammafunk> is this a teleport other conspiracy
22:12:57 <ebering> hah
22:13:04 <gammafunk> ooh, good gauntlet tech?
22:13:20 <ebering> yeah teleport other worked in gauntlet
22:13:22 <gammafunk> 1) summon monsters 2) inner flame 3) teleport other until they land in arenas
22:13:27 <alexjurkiewicz> i just proposed this on taven, but any thoughts/feelings about changing ring of flight so that you fly permanently (and uncancellably) while it's on?
22:13:34 <gammafunk> right, you messaged me about that being marked as useless erroneously
22:13:37 <ebering> except that's just for the immo scroll
22:13:48 <ebering> only finitely many of those
22:13:49 <alexjurkiewicz> that is very cool tech though
22:13:57 <gammafunk> oh only for immo scroll
22:14:15 <gammafunk> hrm, well I guess if we update the item description?
22:14:42 <gammafunk> yeah I don't see any such desc update in commit; seems players could have no way of knowing that it was special in that regard
22:15:04 <ebering> alexjurkiewicz: justification was that the exception isn't noted
22:15:09 <ebering> hrm
22:15:15 <gammafunk> I guess you could argue they'd know how the scroll works first and the spell second
22:15:30 <gammafunk> that flight change has been discussed, yeah
22:15:32 <ebering> urgh. I'd like them both to work the same way
22:15:38 <gammafunk> right
22:15:44 <gammafunk> it does seem clearer that way
22:15:53 <ebering> maybe teleport other shouldn't be permitted on allies
22:16:13 <gammafunk> summons out of los will only path to you through, right?
22:16:20 <gammafunk> can you actually exploit this reasonably?
22:16:25 <alexjurkiewicz> You hand the friendly quokka a tremorstone. The quokka vanishes in a burst of transocational energy! The quokka appears on the other side of the glass!
22:16:26 <ebering> yes, but the tele other + inner flame meme
22:17:14 <alexjurkiewicz> You mouth "go with glory" and point at the Large Abomination
22:17:14 <gammafunk> well, I'm asking that if you did try to do this, would it actually work?
22:17:14 <gammafunk> do hostiles target your summons regardless
22:17:14 <ebering> yes
22:17:14 <gammafunk> welp
22:17:41 <gammafunk> It's kind of niche; teleport other is literally the only source of this
22:17:56 <gammafunk> so I'm not sure how bad it is, but I guess it does sort of become a tloc spell you might technically "always" want
22:18:00 <alexjurkiewicz> the explosion would cause impact damage out of los right? Even though the fire clouds would immediately expire
22:18:25 <gammafunk> right, explosion damage would happen, clouds would dissipate, although they could still do a turn of damage I'd guess
22:18:49 <alexjurkiewicz> maybe the fix should be to prevent both forms of inner flame from working out of los
22:19:08 <alexjurkiewicz> well, if a fix is needed
22:19:13 <gammafunk> maybe
22:19:37 <gammafunk> I don't have really strong feeling about any of this, but it would be nice if there was clarity wrt different sources of inner flame; probably that just shouldn't be a difference that exists
22:20:08 <alexjurkiewicz> it's really two different spells now. Maybe one should get renamed
22:20:23 <gammafunk> inner flame bombs to safely clear a level does sort of sounds like tedious behaviour though
22:21:13 <gammafunk> well, one is already caled "immolation" and the other "inner flame"
22:21:20 <gammafunk> er scroll of immolation
22:45:32 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.25-a0-872-g3fe85ef339 (34)
23:00:07 <ebering> alexjurkiewicz: the github actions ci has broken
23:00:19 <ebering> on linux the "installing deps" section says it installs pyyaml
23:00:21 <ebering> but the build fails
23:00:26 <ebering> because it cant find pyyaml
23:16:40 <alexjurkiewicz> looking
23:17:47 <alexjurkiewicz> only failing for catch2. intersting
23:21:06 <alexjurkiewicz> ebering: deps.py is installing python-yaml -- I think it should be python3-yaml. I can submit a PR later today if you need
23:21:44 <ebering> alexjurkiewicz: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/actions/runs/92721536
23:21:50 <ebering> it's not just catch2
23:25:35 <alexjurkiewicz> that's weird. the most recent trunk build worked
23:25:53 <alexjurkiewicz> i wonder if some of these test results are not recent
23:28:09 <alexjurkiewicz> can you restart the build of the most recent trunk commit?