00:31:50 fixed with that command, thanks 00:32:55 aidanh: I think that tile_show_threat level option being on by default is a problem; the main issue is that it's just a lot of pretty ugly visual clutter 00:33:19 gammafunk: yeah, I was a little concerned about the clutter 00:33:20 we have the monster list to show this info in most versions 00:33:50 hm, on webtiles and console that's true, local tiles doesn't show the threat level though 00:34:00 right, local tiles might be a special case 00:34:08 is there no listing of monsters in one of those sidebars? 00:34:29 there is, but it doesn't show threat level 00:34:42 just the monster tiles 00:34:49 well, if that was the main concern, couldn't that be modified to use this highlighting? 00:35:20 or is that display are not suitable for that 00:36:12 i think no more or less suitable, although showing it on the map has the advantage of giving positional information 00:36:24 but whether that's actually an advantage is debatable 00:38:33 gammafunk: in addition to the coloured background, there are also some style variations in this thread: https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?t=22436 00:41:22 to me this just doesn't feel like the sort of thing you want to constantly plaster on LOS 00:41:46 the less intrusive options are a bit less intrusive, but they're still lots of clutter and repeated information 00:42:46 it sort of ruins the visuals by putting a kind of status/icon on every single monster 00:43:41 that makes sense to me 00:44:55 it'd probably be useful in the tutorial though 00:51:35 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 00:52:12 yeah; something where if we could dynamically set/store options and give a tutorial user the option could be cool 00:52:24 the dream is to be able to set options reasonably in-game with a proper UI 00:54:37 that's tricky to do when you combine it with setting options from an rcfile 00:56:42 although I guess there's precedent with macros 00:57:37 maybe just the red level should be visible by default 01:38:06 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.25-a0-189-gf71692c (34) 02:09:44 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.25-a0-189-gf71692c 02:44:45 -!- Tiobot is now known as Guest46965 02:46:50 So, as a local tile player, I understand the intention of the indicators, but the implementation is just bad :( when it was discussed on tavern, I thought it was supposed to be shown only in the sidebar monster icons, which would make sense 02:47:09 but on the map it's really ugly and hugely distracting 02:48:17 also not sure if you saw it, but it also shows for plants, fungi, etc... ('trivial' threats) 02:51:30 03Aidan Holm02 07* 0.25-a0-190-g27fffb8: Don't show monster threat levels by default 10(2 hours ago, 2 files, 5+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl.git/commit/27fffb8c769b 02:52:17 Goratrix: disabled by default now ^ 02:53:34 thanks :) after some tinkering, this could be useful for local tiles, would it be hard to do it similar to the demon tier indicator? a coloured dot in the corner? 02:55:29 Goratrix: no, it'd be easy enough, although it would be hard if you wanted to be able to change between that style and the current style 02:55:45 since one is rendered behind the monster tile, and the other is rendered in front of it 02:55:49 well, not hard, just messy 02:57:11 hmm get it, makes sense 02:58:53 we'll probably re-enable this by default when it's changed to only show for the monster list 02:59:05 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.24-a0-443-g80245de 03:18:39 It's bothering me a little bit that how monsters are affected by various beams is in beam.cc and how players are affected by various beams are (if it's an enchantment) also in beam.cc (if it's damage) in ouch.cc ...IDK the organization felt weird. 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Use !messages to read it. 03:22:04 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.25-a0-190-g27fffb8 (34) 03:32:29 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.25-a0-190-g27fffb8c76 (34) 03:33:13 Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-2777-g6b872f2bae 03:57:23 Fork (bcadrencrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.22.1-1705-g5d397977c9 04:08:15 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 04:12:44 TIL beam.cc is organized 04:15:36 Yea it's a pretty nice file. haha 04:23:03 New branch created: lua-fixes (2 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl.git/tree/lua-fixes 04:23:03 03Aidan Holm02 07[lua-fixes] * 0.25-a0-191-g2c59007: Replace CL_RESETSTACK_RETURN with lua_stack_cleaner 10(4 hours ago, 1 file, 14+ 38-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl.git/commit/2c5900750904 04:23:03 03Aidan Holm02 07[lua-fixes] * 0.25-a0-192-ge018ce7: Fix CLua::execfile() showing the wrong error message 10(89 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl.git/commit/e018ce76c464 05:15:11 The build passed. (lua-fixes - e018ce7 #12327 : Aidan Holm): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/618512464 05:42:58 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 11:22:17 Stable (0.23) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23.1-91-gf373564dc4 11:41:48 03ebering02 07[positional-magic] * 0.25-a0-207-gda511e6: Prevent out-of-los attacks by Foxfires 10(21 hours ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl.git/commit/da511e612fea 11:41:53 Branch pull/1200 updated to be equal with positional-magic: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl.git/pull/1200 11:48:10 StarkRED (L23 MuWz) ERROR in 'tags.cc' at line 4476: Invalid item: (quantity: 0) gold piece (Depths:4) 11:49:59 Experimental (positional-magic) branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.25-a0-207-gda511e612f 12:36:19 03ebering02 07[positional-magic] * 0.25-a0-208-gcec80d8: Tiles for Foxfire and their cloud trail 10(34 seconds ago, 9 files, 11+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl.git/commit/cec80d818749 12:36:24 Branch pull/1200 updated to be equal with positional-magic: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl.git/pull/1200 12:56:47 03ebering02 07[positional-magic] * 0.25-a0-209-gcd38570: Use the Poison Arrow bolt tile for Sting 10(19 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl.git/commit/cd38570088e0 12:56:47 03ebering02 07[positional-magic] * 0.25-a0-210-g39b7f0d: Tile for toxic bog feature 10(28 seconds ago, 4 files, 5+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl.git/commit/39b7f0dd1d32 12:56:51 Branch pull/1200 updated to be equal with positional-magic: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl.git/pull/1200 13:04:06 Experimental (positional-magic) branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.25-a0-208-gcec80d8187 13:20:20 Experimental (positional-magic) branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.25-a0-210-g39b7f0dd1d 13:25:12 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 13:58:02 The build was broken. (positional-magic - cec80d8 #12330 : Edgar A. Bering IV): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/618693525 16:16:24 03ebering02 07[positional-magic] * 0.25-a0-211-gb3f0304: Player save compatibility for positional magic 10(33 minutes ago, 2 files, 53+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl.git/commit/b3f0304fd578 16:16:24 03ebering02 07[positional-magic] * 0.25-a0-212-gcce2b84: Monster save compatibility for positional magic 10(75 seconds ago, 1 file, 28+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl.git/commit/cce2b84c3dba 16:16:28 Branch pull/1200 updated to be equal with positional-magic: 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl.git/pull/1200 17:02:46 Experimental (positional-magic) branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.25-a0-212-gcce2b84c3d 17:41:53 Strange light effect when berserking 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=12139 by quik 18:23:04 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.25-a0-190-g27fffb8c76 (34) 20:55:43 03gammafunk02 07* 0.25-a0-191-ga656ec4: Update the Fedhas flavor of a Lugonu vault (minmay) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl.git/commit/a656ec442d48 21:12:18 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.25-a0-191-ga656ec442d (34) 22:26:14 03gammafunk02 07* 0.25-a0-192-gb5a0cb1: Remove an outdated acquirement rule under Fedhas 10(33 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl.git/commit/b5a0cb102829 22:26:14 03gammafunk02 07* 0.25-a0-193-g0f3e877: Fix outdated food logic when worshiping Fedhas 10(26 minutes ago, 3 files, 1+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl.git/commit/0f3e877b0e78 22:26:14 03gammafunk02 07* 0.25-a0-194-gece1257: Remove unused Fedhas corpse rotting code 10(22 minutes ago, 2 files, 0+ 22-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl.git/commit/ece12570e2d0 22:39:41 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.25-a0-194-gece12570e2 (34)