00:26:38 <Cheibriados> Deep water tiles showing up as walls 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=12053 by kitchen_ace
00:44:18 <alexjurkiewicz> about server messages, I'd much prefer something like discord or another irc channel
00:44:30 <alexjurkiewicz> mailing lists don't make it easy to add new people and give them access to the archive
00:45:06 <alexjurkiewicz> and are in general difficult for people who didn't grow up with them. It would be another hurdle and server management has enough of those
01:21:45 <Lantell> Experimental (bcrawl) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-2313-g5eb34e082d
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02:51:34 <alexjurkiewicz> actually, IRC also makes history hard. Discord or Slack or something would be my preference. Ease of access and archive accessibility would be my concerns
02:52:09 <alexjurkiewicz> server admin knowledge is comprised of years of slow chatter accreting, which is why history is important
03:30:42 <Kelbell> Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-2313-g5eb34e082d
09:02:51 <advil> > mailing lists don't make it easy to add new people and give them access to the archive
09:02:52 <advil> ???
09:02:56 <advil> super confused by that
09:04:21 <advil> here's the use case I have in mind: I would like to somehow announce to server admins something about enabling seeded game mode, without having to contact them one by one
09:05:00 <advil> I'm not sure how yet another chat thing would enable that?
09:06:15 <advil> also, slack requires money for archives
09:06:28 <advil> discord might work, but it's very similar to the status quo
09:06:49 <advil> well, a bit easier
09:09:08 <advil> announcing floraline's password reset thing would also have been a similar thing (afaik only CKO is even using it)
09:09:40 <advil> maybe a discord could work for this, if it gets used
09:12:58 <advil> rax: wondering if maybe I could get access to CAO for purposes of kicking the scoring system (doesn't seem like neil is likely to be able to do it)...I'm also interested in working on some incremental improvements to it after this cycle so would also help with that
09:23:34 <Lantell> Stable (0.22) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.22.1-59-ge965b3aba3
09:26:34 <Cheibriados> New branch created: pull/1141 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1141
09:26:34 <Cheibriados> 03Nikolai Lavsky02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1141 * 0.24-a0-582-gcd37422: Add missing feature tiles to the stash search menu 10(26 minutes ago, 4 files, 21+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cd37422ff0c5
11:23:42 <Lantell> Stable (0.23) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23.1-89-g277498a001
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13:41:54 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.24-a0-583-g87330a4: Enable incremental pregen as a default for new games, track in save 10(3 minutes ago, 11 files, 39+ 15-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/87330a484a5e
13:42:16 <advil> here we go...
13:47:30 <advil> gonna go run an errand; the procedure for turning off incremental pregen if there's a disaster while I'm gone is to make _branch_pregenerates always return false
13:47:42 <advil> (that commit adds a minor tag so isn't really revertable in full)
14:10:13 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.24-a0-583-g87330a484a (34)
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18:22:50 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.24-a0-583-g87330a484a (34)
18:27:47 <gammafunk> we are legit running out of minor tag versions
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20:50:14 <alexjurkiewicz> +advil | super confused by that <--- only list managers can add people to mailing lists. Anyone can invite someone to a discord channel. Mailing list archives are stored in a completely different place and format to new messages (website vs email client), whereas discord channel has history in-line with new messages
20:51:26 <alexjurkiewicz> I keep saying discord, but I'm not advocating for that in particular. Just using it to contrast the negatives of mailing lists
20:52:12 <alexjurkiewicz> discord, gitter, matrix, tavern subforum, github repo issues, whatever
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23:01:12 <ebering> crawl-ref-discuss is open subscription
23:01:36 <ebering> mailing list archives can be downloaded in a tar gz (good luck with most of those alternatives)
23:14:43 <ebering> mailing list archives can be downloaded in a tar gz (good luck with most of those alternatives)
23:14:46 <ebering> oops
23:17:49 <Pinkbeast> Wasn't the last traffic on it in 2018?
23:27:57 <ebering> yes but
23:28:28 <ebering> that doesn't change the "anyone can join" property
23:34:34 <Pinkbeast> Fair enough.
23:44:32 <alexjurkiewicz> not sure if serious about downloading archives in tar gz
23:45:30 <alexjurkiewicz> how can I import a tar gz into my gmail or office365 email account?
23:46:26 <alexjurkiewicz> I think every one of those alternatives I listed has the ability to download messages into a local file, if that's an important requirement