00:35:43 thanks, good to see it merged :) 00:36:27 I believe that description of Exsanguinate ability is erroneous. "Remove all of your blood, transitioning to a bloodless state. Returning to life costs permanent hit points." If it warns about -20% frailty then I wouldn't call becoming bloodless "returning to life". If it warns about the cost of returning to life, then cost is different now. 00:58:47 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.24-a0-397-g73b976d855 (34) 01:00:10 Stable (0.23) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.23.1-60-gf996548c65 03:17:29 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 03:25:02 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.24-a0-397-g73b976d (34) 03:51:18 Fork (stoatsoup) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.21.2-973-g2264d1ce38 04:26:29 It's no longer possible to eat harmful chunks: update options_guide.txt 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=12004 by Yermak 08:52:56 Yermak: you're right 09:03:02 03ebering02 07* 0.24-a0-398-g4edc0ab: Revise Exsanguinate's description (Yermak) 10(50 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4edc0ab2af20 09:17:17 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.24-a0-398-g4edc0ab2af (34) 10:40:27 03advil02 07* 0.24-a0-399-g0a26ff3: Add shop items to seed explorer 10(2 minutes ago, 6 files, 49+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0a26ff3fdf8e 10:40:54 whew, that's my last missing big TODO item for the seed explorer 10:43:30 nice 10:43:38 time to fire up the seed explorer on some big iron 10:43:43 and find the ultimate speed run seed 10:44:18 heh 10:44:28 it's not very fast, all in all 10:44:42 ofc the rate limiting thing is levelgen 10:48:47 yes but there's a 64 core machine I have access to that no one minds if I peg the cores on with nice 5'd processes :) 10:48:55 nice 10:49:03 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.24-a0-399-g0a26ff3fdf (34) 10:49:43 it wouldn't be hard to write some more custom search stuff, e.g. search for seeds with arga before D:10 10:51:37 I wonder if I should do another 0.23 point release with more seed stability fixes 10:51:53 right now any seed with shoals is likely to vary by OS 10:52:13 feels like we're still a few months away from 0.24? 10:52:32 at least 10:57:09 yeah, there are a couple big projects I think I'll have time to work on that I'd like to get in 11:02:16 I've been only doing seed-related stuff instead of New Features 11:02:16 well, incremental pregen will be a New Feature 11:06:26 in my mbp it takes about 17 minutes to do 100 seeds to depth 16 (which gets temple) 11:06:30 *on 11:15:15 https://gist.github.com/rawlins/79dc009793029944e2db5463ab8b3e2b 11:21:39 cool 11:23:47 Stable (0.23) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23.1-60-gf996548c65 11:26:00 heh seed 71 has a +5 ring of slaying on D:2, but also a troll on D:1, I didn't even know that was possible 11:26:10 ah I think it's in a stair vault 12:22:34 does anyone know if there's a good reason not to allow tests on debug-lite builds? 12:50:28 well, it's not any faster, so no reason to really 12:50:40 `make profile' is > 2x as fast for the explorer though 12:53:28 03advil02 07* 0.24-a0-400-g86696ef: Add a bit more about how to run the seed explorer in comments 10(32 seconds ago, 1 file, 9+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/86696efbda7f 13:02:17 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.24-a0-400-g86696efbda (34) 13:05:09 yeah, that same 100 seed run took 6.5 minutes under `make profile` 13:28:03 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.24-a0-400-g86696ef (34) 14:40:02 03advil02 07* 0.24-a0-401-g4219c68: Don't place needle traps for TRAP_RANDOM (11991 / Yermak) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4219c681b91f 14:40:57 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 14:47:44 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.24-a0-401-g4219c681b9 (34) 15:27:23 how does the depth argument work 15:27:25 is it by absdepth? 15:41:23 03advil02 07* 0.24-a0-402-g581a069: Don't let monster digging allow out-of-los casting (11945, 11969) 10(14 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/581a069569a3 15:41:40 yeah, it's really just depth in the generation order 15:41:40 so not even absdepth 15:41:40 I guess that's not very obvious 15:42:43 you can see the generation order here: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/dlua/explorer.lua#L12 15:43:58 probably worth adding some more specific level filter for the printed output 15:45:06 yeah I was digging through 15:47:36 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.24-a0-402-g581a069569 (34) 15:47:43 yeah, it would be nice for -depth to take syntax the same as .des DEPTH 15:47:55 if you give a mouse a cookie!!! 15:50:50 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 15:54:30 advil: running on the Big Iron I can make a first 1000 seed through D:7 catalog in about 5 elapsed minutes 15:55:13 nice, was that with a profile build or a debug build? 15:55:36 profile build 15:55:55 the real trick is parallel -j64 tho 16:08:45 03advil02 07* 0.24-a0-403-gf268315: Clean up some outdated comments 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 22+ 41-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f268315891c1 16:16:28 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.24-a0-404-gd14802f: Cap Shroud of Golubria power at 50 (#12000) 10(44 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d14802f61fe3 16:16:28 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.24-a0-405-g6016cb4: Remove a misleading god message (#11220) 10(32 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6016cb4fb2e3 16:16:28 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.24-a0-406-g1d664f1: Mention noise in wand of iceblast description (#11902) 10(18 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1d664f184956 16:16:28 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.24-a0-407-g86e7e05: Update easy_eat_chunks documentation (#12004) 10(16 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/86e7e0583bcd 16:17:19 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.24-a0-403-gf268315891 (34) 16:22:36 MarvinPA: wanted to run an idea past you for replacing sif muna's passive miscast with a high piety cost 4* or 5* ability to cast a spell regardless of fail rate 16:23:09 this would be in addition to some other changes we had discussed of giving sif normal piety on kills and moving channel to say 2* and removing divine energy 16:23:57 said Divine Knowledge ability (or whatever we'd call it) could cast from memorized spells or just cast from the library 16:24:39 former means people would juggle spells around some and perhaps have some resulting decision paralysis, but the latter might be a bit odd in terms of UI 16:26:07 oh hmm, i was actually just looking at that sif PR from a little while back, yeah 16:27:43 i think that sounds more interesting than the proposed high-piety ability there of instant spellcasting. i think for it to be especially useful you would want to be able to cast from library (with an appropriately high cost)? 16:28:46 yeah, I was thinking something like Zin's sanctuary piety cost, but I don't actually know how much that is 16:29:22 obviously high enough that you could lose stars if you tried to use it several times without gaining much piety 16:29:33 yeah, that way it's sort of got the built-in piety cost that you'd otherwise be spending on shuffling things in and out of memory to use it 16:29:53 right 16:30:00 yeah, that's true 16:30:43 well I can work on a first pass at that, then 16:31:17 I need to get something in 0.24 before ebering takes my job as (2nd) most ruinous dev 16:32:52 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.24-a0-407-g86e7e0583b (34) 16:33:39 cool! i didn't see how outdated the sif PR is but some of that might be usable to save some effort too, i think it has the divine energy removal already at least 16:34:30 yeah I'll take a look 16:58:38 gammafunk: seems like a cool idea to me. if it's not limited to memorised spells, what about not even limiting it to your library? check out a spell from sif muna's personal library (i.e., any player-castable spell in the game) 17:11:39 gammafunk: so it's a ruining race you want eh 17:18:02 <|amethyst> You said "ruining race" and the first thing I thought was "but if we're going to implement playable devs as an in-game option, it should be a god choice rather than a species" 17:18:49 <|amethyst> but I guess that's what Lugonu is for 17:36:57 limiting it to your library might have the upside of being a bit less overwhelming (while still probably having a pretty big selection?), especially if it uses the same interface and can factor in spells you've hidden 17:37:29 although i guess when you first get the ability you might not have a very large library yet 17:47:05 The build was broken. (master - 86e7e05 #11575 : Chris Campbell): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/541420921 17:48:34 wow, travis putting the blame on me for that one 17:49:46 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.24-a0-408-gcc1054c: Checkwhite 10(68 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cc1054c7caed 18:02:31 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.24-a0-408-gcc1054c7ca (34) 18:05:36 MarvinPA: right, choosing from all existing spells is scary, but choosing from your library could be too. i'd rather we decide on what the feature does based on mechanical arguments first, and if we think selecting from all spells is a good idea (arguably it's not), then worry about whether we can make a good interface out of it 18:23:06 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.24-a0-408-gcc1054c7ca (34) 19:00:00 The build was fixed. (master - cc1054c #11576 : Chris Campbell): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/541461652 19:16:10 Yeah, I think it's also nice that spell availability in the game itself is a limiting factor 19:16:34 it makes sif's gifts more interesting since she might gift you this new powerful spell that you can now at least cast using the ability 19:52:35 ah, i forgot sif also gifts knowledge spells. yes, i agree that is clearly a good thing to tie it to 20:05:19 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 21:15:21 !seen floraline 21:15:21 I last saw floraline at Tue Jun 4 04:35:42 2019 UTC (20h 39m 39s ago) saying 'thanks, good to see it merged :)' on ##crawl-dev. 22:19:51 -!- oberste1n is now known as oberstein 22:38:52 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 23:34:02 Pinkbeast: were you looking for me? 23:35:03 floraline: I notice Gooncrawl is now reporting games as 0.22.x on CKO, and I was wondering if something has been fixed there. 23:37:27 i didn't fix anything on purpose 23:37:38 Curses 23:41:37 I'll dig through what they did and what I did on CMOU.