00:25:44 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.24-a0-358-g53aee78b01 (34) 01:38:22 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.24-a0-358-g53aee78 (34) 02:09:58 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.24-a0-358-g53aee78 03:00:01 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.24-a0-358-g53aee78 03:43:54 Player can cancel hostile summons when OTR is active. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11990 by kitchen_ace 04:27:03 New branch created: pull/1073 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1073 04:27:03 03NormalPerson702 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1073 * 0.24-a0-359-g2131b4d: Don't allow the player to cancel monster spells with OTR (11990) 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2131b4d11030 06:19:05 -!- quadsar_ is now known as quadsar 07:28:22 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 10:08:14 -!- Tiobot is now known as Guest88993 11:24:14 Stable (0.23) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23.1-50-ga50397a6bc 11:24:55 game has crashed twice today, each time when using Corrupt, Malign Gateway, and Summon Forest 11:25:13 the error message didn't stay up long enough for me to see, but it had something to do with malign gateway and translocational energy clouds? 12:19:13 -!- aidanh_ is now known as aidanh 12:57:22 The link to the CXC webtiles lobby on CDO is now outdated 12:58:12 This week it was moved from http://crawl.xtahua.com:8080/#lobby to https://crawl.xtahua.com/#lobby 12:58:33 various other places are probably also outdated 13:05:39 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.24-a0-358-g53aee78 (34) 13:30:53 -!- Krakhan|2 is now known as Krakhan 14:16:06 -!- Tiobot is now known as Guest23004 15:23:08 03NormalPerson702 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1073 * 0.24-a0-359-g9ec3d29: Don't allow players to stop monster monstrous menagerie with OTR (11990) 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9ec3d2902e7f 15:23:52 03NormalPerson702 {MarvinPA} 07* 0.24-a0-359-gbc69b92: Don't allow players to stop monster monstrous menagerie with OTR (11990) (#1073) 10(12 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bc69b92bc9bb 15:24:41 NP7: those links on cdo should be updated now too (on the sidebar and the how to play online page), thanks! 15:30:53 cool thanks 15:32:37 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.24-a0-359-gbc69b92bc9 (34) 15:37:50 03advil02 07* 0.24-a0-360-g0dde086: Add a basic lua seed explorer 10(4 minutes ago, 7 files, 370+ 43-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0dde086dc9d1 15:45:39 if anyone's curious what the output of that currently looks like, here's seed 1 on trunk: https://gist.github.com/rawlins/e542ad7bf33132bb428c2586d155e75d 15:45:58 for the entire dungeons 15:46:00 *dungeon 15:46:59 it's fairly heuristic so the answer to "why aren't there any X" is probably, I wrote a heuristic that excluded X for some reason 15:48:05 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.24-a0-360-g0dde086dc9 (34) 16:18:36 03advil02 07* 0.24-a0-361-g5716139: Some cosmetic fixes for the seed explorer 10(33 seconds ago, 1 file, 8+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/57161393b2dc 16:24:14 looks nice 16:25:03 I guess ideally it would be in a format like objstat so it could be more structured, but this will certainly help people doing simple searches 16:27:07 the lua code is just generating lists of lists so it would be easy enough to output a csv or something 16:27:22 it's not really a replacement for *stat though, in that it's probably a lot slower 16:28:52 yeah 16:29:37 I wonder if breaking at least the items into a seperate file would help, since that's the thing people most care about 16:29:39 that doesn't matter though, this is a nice compact representation of stuff 16:29:46 good number of killer klowns in hall of zot on seed 1 16:30:44 heh 16:30:57 I put killer klowns on the "always show" list, though their clubs will trigger them appearing too 16:31:14 one thing I find is that there's no good post-generation heuristic for whether a monster is ood 16:31:21 *found 16:31:58 well a heuristic would be to use the 8 and 9 classes 16:32:22 whether the builder called it ood is sometimes useful, but often not 16:32:29 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.24-a0-361-g57161393b2 (34) 16:32:30 what are those? 16:32:35 ??8[2 16:32:36 8[2/2]: Is also a marker for extremely out of depth (depth*2+4 depth!) monsters in vaults; both traditional and valued by most devs. Good results: d:4 wolf spiders, d:5 centaur warriors, d:6 fire crabs, d:9 sphinxes, d:10 fire giants, d:11 liches. 16:32:40 ??9 16:32:40 9[1/1]: Gargoyles! Very high AC, but low HP, low EV, creature. Decent conjurations, great melee early. LRD blows them up easily. See: {gargoyle} {war gargoyle} {molten gargoyle}. 16:32:51 9 are depth + 5 16:33:04 so you'd have to examine the mon placement tables to see a monster's starting depth 16:33:17 the problem is that most monsters have a huge range 16:33:23 it's already doing depth + 5 16:33:39 well you could say "must be a 9" for instance 16:34:22 yeah you'd have to nail down your definitions a bit, but random monster placement has a notion of ood 16:34:33 and then vaults have those two classes as another notion 16:34:59 by random monster placement I mean level monster placement specifically 16:35:02 what I mean is that that the random monster placement notion is a bit useless 16:35:08 that's actually what's currently annotated 16:36:15 here's an example (not from this seed): on D:13, random monster generation rolled ood and fuzzed up to depth 21. It then rolled a cyclops, which appears between depth 11 and 21 16:37:02 well if you have that information, that does seem well-defined enough to print 16:37:16 if you like you could print the min depth of any such labeled monster 16:37:41 yeah, I think something like the min depth or the average depth might work better than the rolled depth 16:37:56 so they would see when it rolled an iron dragon and they'd see that the min depth of that monster is e.g. 25 or 27, whichever that is 16:38:12 bbl 16:38:13 it's common in the current scheme of things to get the same monster placing once with an OOD roll and once with a regular roll 16:38:19 on the same level 17:53:35 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 18:22:05 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.24-a0-361-g57161393b2 (34) 19:35:03 Hey, should we patch {vamp} weapons to hunger you as you regen rather than on wield? 19:39:45 or just remove the hunger cost altogether 19:43:10 !lg . race=dj won 19:43:10 1. bh the Nimbus (L27 DjBe of Fedhas), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2013-06-20 08:14:47, with 1264856 points after 189792 turns and 14:35:56.