00:00:14 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.24-a0-292-g5c6fb1c (34) 01:38:07 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.24-a0-292-g5c6fb1c (34) 02:09:51 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.24-a0-292-g5c6fb1c 02:59:26 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.24-a0-292-g5c6fb1c 03:03:00 -!- ProzacElf_ is now known as ProzacElf 03:49:33 New branch created: pull/1063 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1063 03:49:33 03Doesnt02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/1063 * 0.24-a0-293-gdf3a378: Let draconian scorchers and Azrael call down damnation when not at low hp 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/df3a37800a04 07:00:39 -!- TAS-2012v is now known as TAS_2012v 09:19:23 floraline good call on writing up a coc, looks very helpful 09:19:44 I think we should adopt the no-advertising rule for the next t 11:21:53 Stable (0.23) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23.1-50-ga50397a6bc 11:25:33 Shield "Wrong Type of Item" 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11974 by Pekkekke 12:04:29 -!- TAS-2012v is now known as TAS_2012v 13:05:34 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.24-a0-292-g5c6fb1c (34) 15:04:52 hey is this a good place to complain about a starting vault destroying my ass 15:05:21 or at the very least a neutral 15:17:09 well, it's a good place to discuss game design issues with vaults, which may or may not be quite the same thing ;-) 15:25:39 alright, well, i was hella murdered by the starting vault minmay_arrival_glassed_features, which is just a massive open area with four glass-walled fountains 15:26:55 i took one step and three enemies spotted me, and by the time i found a corridor or just Any non-open area, more had found me, so essentially i was never not fighting from the very start 15:27:47 i couldn't do anything like learn helpful spells using the levels i was gaining, and loot luck wasn't with me, so i didn't even have stuff to quaff- or read-id 15:28:15 eventually i was bumbling around at 1 hp praying not to get killed by bats, and ate it when a kobold threw a rock 15:28:25 then i decided to find a place to complain 15:28:30 and by god, here i am 15:29:14 do you have a seed #? 15:29:34 yeah 15:29:35 17674923221093783249 15:30:02 please don't use it for nefarious purposes like proving i could have survived all along 15:30:53 heh 15:31:01 I'm not really a vault design person so it may take until someone is around who is to give an actual response 15:31:39 it's fine, honestly as long as someone pays attention to my tantrum i feel vindicated 15:31:56 tale as old as time, really 15:32:43 yeah, in the south direction there is a ton of stuff 15:32:49 hell and damn it 15:32:56 i went north. 15:33:04 by ton of stuff I mean monsters 15:33:07 oh 15:33:22 gahahah 15:33:36 I think you must have tried S first 15:33:41 N is some corridors 15:33:49 at least in 0.23.2 15:34:07 but my test also died while trying to deal with the S monsters 15:34:08 maybe, i don't remember the run that exactly 15:34:18 i did play in trunk 15:34:35 i was playing MfSk which was honestly my own fault 15:34:59 trunk hasn't changed too much yet, D1 seeds are probably still the same (and it's the right arrival vault) 15:38:48 github commit saying to kick soonmide's ass once and for all 15:39:18 well, I do agree this is a harder arrival vault, especially in combination with bad levelgen luck, I'm not sure it's necessarily outside the range of what's ok for an arrival vault (though like I said this isn't my area of expertise) 15:40:35 somewhere or other there's a meme image showing what you should assume is out of los in a relatively open, empty area, this case reminds me a lot of that 15:40:42 wish I could find that 15:40:50 hahahah, yeah 15:41:34 i've played enough crawl that open areas terrify me, so i knew nothing good was gonna happen 15:41:53 did feel very quite bad to play though 15:42:31 some sort of, prozac based elf 15:44:41 sooner or later a real vault person will take a look 15:45:09 haha I asked in the discord and no one knows the one I'm thinking of but they did come up with this: https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2014-03-25 15:45:32 jesus lord 15:47:46 if we had a million monkeys with a million typewriters, one would eventually notice all the hitlers behind them 15:48:48 anyway yeah i hope a vault design person pops in here and gives me ten (10) dollars 20:41:20 that is a pretty rough D:1. maybe i got lucky, but by retreating back to the stairs instead of searching for corridors when i saw monsters, i was able to survive and work my way out to the rest of the floor 20:42:18 made it to XL2 and then had to pillar dance a hobgoblin for a while 21:53:57 yeah, I just died 21:54:22 the corners are somewhat tactically usable though (but I didn't try to use them) 22:21:24 -!- muffindrake1 is now known as muffindrake 22:52:44 Anyone understand Sequell's innards? Our instance never seems to notice new games 23:31:20 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 23:47:05 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy