01:38:02 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.24-a0-282-g1a68c91 (34) 01:47:51 -!- TAS-2012v is now known as TAS_2012v 02:09:37 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.24-a0-282-g1a68c91 02:22:56 -!- ProzacElf_ is now known as ProzacElf 02:59:52 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.24-a0-282-g1a68c91 03:07:21 -!- TAS-2012v is now known as TAS_2012v 04:35:46 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 08:50:26 is there some way in mantis manage user pages to search for activity by that user? It seems like my only option is to then go select the user from a dropdown in the issue filter panel 08:50:56 before I'd assumed I just didn't have access to do things like this but I'm pretty sure I have 100% mantis access now and I still can't figure out how to do this really basic thing 09:24:30 Stable (0.22) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.22.1-59-ge965b3aba3 09:32:35 ebering: https://csclub.uwaterloo.ca/~ebering/crawl/csdc/0.23/1.html isn't being update. 09:32:45 I'm doing a db rebuild for Reasons 09:33:46 @devs: CBRO seems to have a full disk. 09:33:56 and it's back 09:34:06 we're aware, johnstein has been notified 09:34:21 great...thanks! 10:08:56 anet (L1 DEWz) Crash caused by signal #15: Terminated (D:1) 10:48:34 ohgodtheblood (L17 DrFE) ERROR in 'mon-movetarget.cc' at line 115: ZotDef: monster ice statue failed to pathfind to (39,48) (the Orb) (Zot (ZotDef)) 10:52:20 Wow ZotDef crash 10:52:32 with all these retired devs coming back may be ZotDef will ride again 11:22:52 Stable (0.23) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23.1-50-ga50397a6bc 13:11:05 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 13:29:02 -!- glaas` is now known as glaas 13:42:21 floraline: can you give the amalloy account dev permissions on cko? i wanted to download a save backup linked from mantis 14:03:30 ohgodtheblood (L20 DrFE) ERROR in 'mon-movetarget.cc' at line 115: ZotDef: monster wraith failed to pathfind to (39,52) (the Orb) (Zot (ZotDef)) 14:30:43 Anyone happen to know where summoned monsters clean themselves up after their summoner dies, please? 14:32:41 the summoner does it somewhere in mon-death.cc I think 14:41:36 Bother, that means I'm just blind 14:45:14 (and thanks) 15:24:10 hi there, anyone know how can i read the chat messages in the webtiles game from the .rc file? 15:25:48 that's not exposed to lua at present 15:26:07 qw receives messages via the older dgl message interace for console messages 15:26:20 those appear in the usual message stream after you press _ 15:27:42 simbs38: if you add the option note_chat_messages = true in your rc file, when people talk to you on webtiles it will show up in the notes section of your dump/morgue 15:28:04 (sorry if I misunderstood what you were asking there) 15:29:40 ebering : i didn't understand your answer, can you please explain? 15:30:23 glass : yes, thats what i want, but i want it in real time, i cannot wait for the dump file to be updated 15:30:40 you can see your dump while playing by using ? and then # 15:30:58 unfortunately I do not know how to see if someone is trying to talk you, though 15:31:52 so unless you're expecting to talk to someone the likely effect is you realize later that someone was trying to talk to you :/ 15:33:09 i have a bot like the beem bot sending messages to the webtiles chat, i need to read those messages in the .rc file, so is someone trying to talk to me 15:34:22 simbs38: my answer is "you can't do that at present" 15:36:54 damm it..... so... ebering : can i send messages from a beem like bot to the messages in the game? 15:48:33 i need to be able to communicate from beem to rc and vice versa, i can already talk from rc to beem, but i need to do the reverse also, how can i do that? 15:55:15 simbs38: you've been given this answer before: using webtiles javascript interface you can send commands to crawl; however you will need additional functionality, the beem code only does chat commands 15:59:10 webtiles javascript interface? 16:01:15 03floraline02 {ebering} 07* 0.24-a0-283-g7ba0370: Log IPs correctly when behind a reverse proxy 10(3 weeks ago, 2 files, 6+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7ba0370b9434 16:01:31 simbs38: webtiles runs over a websocket by passing json objects back and forth 16:01:45 the browser game client is some javascript that handles parsing and rendering these messages 16:02:00 the beem bot uses a python library that handles parsing and sending a subset of these json messages 16:02:22 if you want to communicate between lua in the crawl process and something that's like beem 16:02:27 you will need to extend that functionality 16:05:36 i really dont need to send the messages to the .rc file, as long as i can run comands from beem, so, how can i send a comand from beem to the game? 16:05:58 16:02 <+ebering> the beem bot uses a python library that handles parsing and 16:05:59 sending a subset of these json messages 16:06:03 16:02 <+ebering> you will need to extend that functionality 16:06:52 same method 16:09:13 but.... i didnt understand to where i have to send the messages, in have never found the socket in the webtiles game in the network tab in inspect element 16:11:10 some day the two message systems should be unified 16:12:23 I'm not sure I fully understand what you want but I suspect it could be easier to write a PR that adds lua code to look at chat messages in the log (with note_chat_messages = true) than figure out how to interface with the chat window 16:12:35 well, it'd be easier for me if I were doing it, that's for sure 16:14:52 simbs38: if you look in the crawl repository under source/webserver/static/scripts/client.js you can see where the socket is being connected to 16:15:01 and how to send commands to crawl over it 16:15:58 amalloy: do you have control of the account right now or is someone squatting on it? 16:16:22 floraline: i confirmed that i can log in 16:17:48 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.24-a0-283-g7ba0370b94 (34) 16:19:04 amalloy: the account should have admin permissions now, sorry about that 16:19:18 i'm still not sure if i got everybody yet 16:19:23 floraline: thanks. nothing to apologise for; i don't think i asked when you created the server 16:27:48 03ebering02 07* 0.24-a0-284-g9fb9971: Add a security warning to the comments (CanOfWorms) 10(32 seconds ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9fb9971df151 16:32:38 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.24-a0-284-g9fb9971df1 (34) 16:41:08 amalloy: could you exchange the CSDC pin for this one please: https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/bkd7uh/023_crawl_sudden_death_challenges_megathread/ 16:42:15 ebering: done 16:42:55 thanks! 17:09:54 The build has errored. (master - 7ba0370 #11422 : floraline): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/527931066 18:21:00 -!- ProzacElf_ is now known as ProzacElf 18:21:29 ebering: one thing with a single megathread is it's hard to find new conversations after a few days 18:22:05 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.24-a0-284-g9fb9971df1 (34) 18:26:03 alexjurk1: sort by->new???? 19:42:52 http://www.dungeoncrawlstonesoup.com/ shenanigans ahoy 19:44:28 ... complete with a link to Rose's Discord server for Nazis^W free speech 19:55:58 yikes 20:01:31 Thought you might want to know, although I regret by "want to know" I probably mean "be irritated by knowing" 20:03:13 i'm not a lawyer, but there are clearly some legal questions here. the art is CC0, so he is probably entitled to use it, but there is something about "not implying endorsement by the original author". is a trademark relevant? not sure. pretty sure it doesn't violate the GPL 20:03:58 it "seems" wrong for him to imply his page is the official one, but i really know very little about trademark law 20:04:20 Not to be Capt Obvious but _is_ it a trademark? 20:04:48 that is the first thing i don't know 20:04:56 (Also, he's playing on CKO as "rosecryptodotcom", presumably because "ihavethirtyeightwinsnottobrag" wouldn't fit) 20:16:19 so, again as a complete non-lawyer, it looks to me like that page violates neither copyright/patent law, nor any licenses. we might have some trademark claims on the domain name and the branding: nobody has registered the trademark, but you're not required to: being recognisable is enough, as i understand it 20:16:44 i guess a good first step would be to politely ask him to make it clear that it's his personal thing and not the official site 20:17:00 which is really the only change we have any standing to ask for 20:17:31 (again, according to my completely ignorant understanding) 20:18:41 ebering: that doesn't work for threaded conversations well 20:19:18 I have some memory of this being up for some time now? advil might have already tried the polite request? 20:26:07 no hits on the wayback machine (until today, when i searched for it) 20:27:06 i doubt you can do anything about this. I mean what are you going to do, ask nicely? And then if he says no? 20:27:33 just might be motivation to fix the homepage SEO 20:27:41 they threatened it iirc 20:30:38 Doing some trademark reading; based on my non-expert understanding the DevTeam as an entity has trademark rights to "dungeon crawl stone soup", but fair use permits the creation of fan websites, the best we could hope for is some kind of disclaimer distancing the site from our official one? Registrars have domain name dispute policies but I doubt they'll be helpful or applicable in the presence of 20:30:44 such a disclaimer 20:31:01 yes, i believe that as well 20:32:49 looks like c.d.o is fine in the search results though 20:33:01 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 20:34:21 Well, I'm of the opinion we should pursue this in some way, so that we can protect the dcss trademark, but also ugh I really don't want to take point on this or deal with MR at all. 20:42:06 ohgodtheblood (L27 DrFE) ERROR in 'mon-movetarget.cc' at line 115: ZotDef: monster swamp worm failed to pathfind to (39,52) (the Orb) (Zot (ZotDef)) 20:59:23 yes, I already asked MRG about that website and tried to politely convey why that website is not ideal 21:00:23 this was several months ago, before I had entirely concluded that it's not possible to communicate with him and that there's not really any chance of him listening to other people 21:02:02 fwiw, I don't think there's any chance of him listening to a request about this 21:03:54 I couldn't get to that site via searches that I tried, seems to still be true 21:09:24 he didn't actually seem able or willing to even understand why that site could be a problem (though that's sort of how every conversation with him where someone is trying to explain why he is in the wrong goes ime) 21:35:55 Webtiles server stopped. 21:35:56 Webtiles server started. 21:58:00 yikes, that looks like a phishing site 21:58:08 i'm surprised a game this small is being targeted like that 21:58:32 it's not phishing, it's more like griefing 21:58:53 like that "meem" bot 22:02:50 "dungeon crawl stone soup homepage" finds it on the first page 22:03:14 specifically because of the "homepage". But I don't think people use that word in 2019. And it's nowhere near the top for "dungeon crawl stone soup" 22:04:15 I think the best thing to do is never change the homepage url (I suggested changing the domain years ago) and keep an eye to make sure he doesn't silently update other places (eg /r/roguelikes sidebar, wikipedia) (I checked these just now) 22:15:12 alexjurk1 fwiw I don't get that in the first page with that search either with or without quotes 22:15:22 weirdly with quotes this is the top hit: https://libregamewiki.org/Dungeon_Crawl_Stone_Soup 22:19:16 ah i was going without quotes 22:19:30 maybe i saw it because i had just previously visited the page in my logged in chrome session 22:19:55 hard to tell why google does what it does 22:20:18 so hard to analyse this stuff now google is so personal but i can't see it ever getting link juice to rival the official home page. Just need to watch out for it being inserted silently elsewhere