01:29:57 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.24-a0-194-g9bee6eb (34) 02:37:54 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.24-a0-194-g9bee6eb (34) 02:44:17 Error about game seeds on game end 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11928 by kitchen_ace 02:51:46 !seen kitchen_ace 02:51:46 I last saw kitchen_ace at Thu Dec 6 16:31:47 2018 UTC (14w 3d 14h 19m 58s ago) quitting, saying 'Ping timeout: 256 seconds'. 03:08:28 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.24-a0-194-g9bee6eb 03:51:22 Fork (bcadrencrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.22.1-111-gbbb665482d 03:59:50 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.24-a0-194-g9bee6eb 09:11:52 -!- greqrg is now known as tonehack 09:17:51 03advil02 07* 0.24-a0-195-g6c5f6a5: Disable seed .pref saving for DGL builds (11928 / kitchen_ace) 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6c5f6a5ba466 09:32:15 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.24-a0-195-g6c5f6a5ba4 (34) 10:56:31 03advil02 07[stone_soup-0.21] * 0.21.2-1-g0862bd2: Don't crash when there are game types from the future 10(12 days ago, 4 files, 22+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0862bd23ebb4 11:05:56 03advil02 07[stone_soup-0.20] * 0.20.1-2-g1830e61: Don't crash when there are game types from the future 10(12 days ago, 4 files, 22+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1830e616b09c 11:56:34 03advil02 07[stone_soup-0.19] * 0.19.5-1-g796a648: Don't crash when there are game types from the future 10(12 days ago, 4 files, 22+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/796a6487f814 12:28:00 03advil02 07* 0.24-a0-196-g3dc15b6: Don't save seed pref for sprint, tutorial 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3dc15b603402 12:28:00 03advil02 07* 0.24-a0-197-g62cde1d: Fix meatsprint (11834) 10(27 minutes ago, 1 file, 29+ 12-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/62cde1d77f50 12:30:07 The build was broken. (stone_soup-0.20 - 1830e61 #11239 : advil): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/507900948 12:31:35 huh, contrib failure? 12:31:40 not sure where that's coming from 12:32:16 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.24-a0-197-g62cde1d77f (34) 12:33:08 only for BUILD_ALL, too 12:33:45 oh, but that's because that's the only travis builds that use contrib I bet 12:39:00 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 12:39:10 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.24-a0-198-g76deb67: Don't highlight the summoner of rakshasa illusions 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/76deb67c05ac 12:39:27 I would guess that something changed out from under contrib sdl on linux since 0.20, not sure if that's going to be worth fixing since that's before we updated sdl 12:39:43 and it's not as if we're likely to do another release 12:40:04 I was just backporting that fix for debugging purposes 12:45:31 interesting, the highlighter also highlighted band leaders prior to that commit, since i guess those are technically implemented as being the summoner for the band 12:45:47 sanka (L11 SpFE) ERROR in 'libutil.cc' at line 391: screen write out of bounds: (18,-1) into (33,17) (D:11) 12:45:50 (via kitchen-ace who i forgot to credit in the commit, my bad) 12:47:28 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.24-a0-198-g76deb67c05 (34) 13:07:29 The build failed. (stone_soup-0.19 - 796a648 #11240 : advil): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/507928488 13:21:25 Stable (0.21) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.21.2-1-g0862bd23eb 13:27:25 Stable (0.21) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.21.2-1-g0862bd2 14:05:41 Stable (0.19) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19.5-1-g796a648 14:32:09 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.24-a0-198-g76deb67 (34) 16:05:38 pentaxis93 (L27 MiBe) ERROR in 'libutil.cc' at line 391: screen write out of bounds: (12,42) into (33,17) (Vaults:5) 16:19:51 oh i guess that crash is summoner highlighting too 16:22:33 Stable (0.20) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.20.1-2-g1830e616b0 16:24:02 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.24-a0-199-gc186064: Don't highlight summoners that are out of LOS 10(70 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c186064d31aa 16:32:25 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.24-a0-199-gc186064d31 (34) 17:47:31 bcadren crawl reworked flaming brand in an interesting way: Flaming brand replaced with Molten. Molten weapons do less base damage (-25%); but ignore AC and still have bonus AF_FIRE damage after the initial attack. 18:31:25 03advil02 07* 0.24-a0-200-gaac6ce0: Add version number to seed selection menu 10(48 minutes ago, 2 files, 7+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/aac6ce03dcdc 18:31:25 03advil02 07* 0.24-a0-201-gf205589: Better newgame messaging when a game already exists 10(11 minutes ago, 2 files, 28+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f2055891f03d 18:47:39 Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.24-a0-201-gf2055891f0 (34) 19:02:17 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=26178 19:02:50 thought process: it's a troll. no it's definitely real. or is it? it can't be. But it's too dumb to be constructed. 19:03:39 "You are not authorised to read this forum." and I am now also consumed with nosiness 19:04:42 you didn't miss much but the highlight is definitely " I'm just going to steal the code and fix it myself since apparently none of the developers have a dam clue how to balance any god dam thing." 19:05:05 (they got banished a couple of times and decided to register just to post abuse i guess) 19:09:22 to be honest getting abyssed three times in a row is pretty bad 19:12:01 tragically they play online so it's pretty easy to find out that it also didn't in fact happen 19:16:18 haha 19:22:15 well, he's right, isn't he? there's nothing stopping you from getting banished 3+ times in a row, in theory, right? but i thought that was intended 19:22:33 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.24-a0-201-gf2055891f0 (34) 19:23:13 i.e. when it does happen, at least you can say "that was pretty unlikely to happen" 19:24:23 switch__: when you've just returned from the abyss, you get a brief period of immunity to banishment 19:24:58 if you don't use that time to get away from the banisher, it's kinda on you 19:25:01 is that immunity made apparent anywhere? 19:25:39 if you resist re-banishment, it tells you 19:26:12 it looks like you get 10-20 turns 19:26:43 it might be useful to add that information to the returning-from-abyss message 19:27:11 it could be, but how would you really make that information useful? 19:28:01 the player either wants to kill the threat or escape from it, and i doubt their goal would change if they were reminded they have brief banishment immunity 19:28:12 i've personally been in circumstances where i'd be surrounded by people that could banish me immediately after coming back. if i knew there was immunity i'd teleport out, but without it i might try to fight because i'd just get banished during the teleport anyway 19:29:00 just something like "you feel a fleeting resistance to banishment" and a very lightly tinted status effect 19:30:19 i don't think it's a totally unreasonable idea, but there is danger in printing out a message about everything the player might want to know 19:30:25 too many such messages just get in the way 19:30:42 what would happen if you just removed the grace period 19:31:03 fourba_: Now, that could get super annoying 19:31:27 I've never seen the resist message 19:31:34 i'd argue in the other direction and say "too many mechanics are just get in the way" i don't think players knowing how the game works gets in the way 19:31:41 so what fourba said, essentially 19:32:16 if you are surrounded by a bunch of dudes who frequently banish, it kinda sucks if you are stuck in the abyss for the rest of the game, because you get re-banished before your teleport can go off 19:32:18 but i think knowing about this mechanic would influence decision making 19:32:22 the grace period is pretty recent and it was fine before it was added imo, but i also don't see any problem with the current state really 19:32:40 i don't know the history, but i imagine it was added to prevent you getting "soft locked" in a crowd of banishers 19:33:21 although i guess banishment used to put you back on stairs, i don't know how long it overlapped with new banishment exit behaviour 19:33:22 %git 4945905948aeb378e830c42db03e917cca94f257 19:33:22 07kilobyte02 * 0.11-a0-1721-g4945905: When escaping the Abyss, grant a temp immunity to most forms of banishment. 10(7 years ago, 3 files, 6+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4945905948ae 19:36:41 %git a64e1ebd40d86fddfb8e62a3059e882c0f5dfd41 19:36:41 07elliptic02 * 0.11-a0-1873-ga64e1eb: Add a message when you resist banishment via ATTR_BANISHMENT_IMMUNITY. 10(7 years ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a64e1ebd40d8 19:37:22 no rationales written down, so we can but speculate 19:37:54 oh I think I have seen that message, actually. 19:37:57 anyway, i think anyone who would change their decision if they knew about this is wrong 19:39:08 I'm not sure the game should hide information from you to stop you making bad decisions, mind 19:39:16 sure 19:39:19 hem-hem GDR 19:39:54 but there's a cost to displaying the message 19:40:04 measured in player attention 19:42:35 point is, you can't get abyssed 3 times in a row. you *can* get shafted quite rapidly, though, and players love that 20:04:01 I'm confused about how autopickup works for dangerous_items 20:04:30 I'm not sure whether it's a bug, a lack of options-fu on my part, or me misunderstanding what ought to be happening 20:04:48 basically I want to pick up mutation potions all the time, but I can't seem to make that happen 20:05:18 I have a crawlrc with only autopickup_exceptions += but the behavior for mut pots and for other dangerous items (lignification) seems to be the same 20:06:14 ??rcfile 20:06:14 rcfile[1/4]: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/docs/options_guide.txt 20:07:39 you probably mean ^=, not +=, as the examples there show 20:07:39 i'm not sure where to find the section explaining the difference 20:07:51 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/docs/options_guide.txt#L249 covers part of it 20:08:13 ah, yes, that is lengthy enough to explain it 20:08:40 fourba: ^ 20:10:02 that did it 20:10:17 thank you 20:18:19 I somehow hadn't realized autopickup_exceptions had a default value and thought it would be empty 20:48:17 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 21:13:23 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy