00:03:38 <advil> 15018 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
00:03:38 <advil> 15018 | D:10     | You fall through a shaft!
00:04:12 <advil> I think maybe they took an escape hatch up to D:10 while climbing back after their first shaft to D:12
00:34:03 <Eksell> Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.24-a0-120-g429d40e (34)
00:35:36 <Eksell> Stable (0.23) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.23.0-2-g0fe3ce5
00:56:58 <alexjurkiewicz> i guess if you forbid turn 0 shafting it might incentivise exploring a level by using all the hatches to it first, to nullify any potential traps in the areas you land
01:08:01 <amalloy> that seems like a pretty dangerous way to explore
01:08:30 <Gretell> Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.23.0-2-g0fe3ce5 (34)
02:21:19 <Rast2-> Is my yellow draconian supposed to have rCorr?
02:24:22 <gammafunk> yes, it's a bug that's fixed in trunk
02:24:39 <Rast2-> guess I'll go play trunk instead of the tourney :P
03:01:38 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
03:49:12 <Kelbell> Stable (0.23) branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23.0-2-g0fe3ce5905
03:49:56 <Kelbell> Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-1729-gdd55c3d1e3
05:49:30 <Cheibriados> Dancing weapon info shown twice on hover with 'x' 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11887 by NormalPerson7
06:16:05 <Cheibriados> Yellow draconian scale bug 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11888 by BananaGlory
09:51:58 <advil> !lg ketziah dr br=d lvl<5
09:52:00 <Sequell> 531. Ketziah the Magician (L1 DrWn), slain by a bat on D:1 on 2018-02-01 02:28:40, with 7 points after 443 turns and 0:00:55.
09:52:11 <advil> that's a lot of drs :D
09:52:15 <advil> er
09:52:17 <advil> wrong channel
09:55:59 <advil> man, competition for the #1 spot is tight this time
09:56:12 <advil> <30 points apart right now
10:02:33 <advil> ??rebuild
10:02:33 <Sequell> rebuild[1/2]: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://underhound.eu:81/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ https://crawl.kelbi.org/rebuild/ Bug gammafunk, advil, |amethyst, or Nap.Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely.
10:03:03 <advil> oh right, no cbro bot, but it did update
11:23:54 <Lantell> Stable (0.23) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23.0-2-g0fe3ce5905
12:02:24 <Henzell> Stable (0.23) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.23.0-2-g0fe3ce5
12:07:36 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.24-a0-120-g429d40e (34)
12:32:22 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
13:20:47 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA
13:57:51 <gammafunk> =nemelex MfWz
13:57:54 <Sequell> Defined keyword: nchoice => GhVM|TeEn|VpCj|VpAE|CeAE|DDIE|DEMo|FeWr|HaEE|GnHu|KoAK|FoSk|DDFE|OpAK|SpSk|MfAM|BaAs|TeEE|MfWz
15:29:28 <Cheibriados> New branch created: pull/990 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/990
15:29:28 <Cheibriados> 03NormalPerson702 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/990 * 0.24-a0-121-g8afefd0: Fix dancing weapon description on hover (11887) 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8afefd03de73
15:45:27 <Cheibriados> New branch created: pull/991 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/991
15:45:27 <Cheibriados> 03NormalPerson702 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/991 * 0.24-a0-121-ga65e851: Fix Ozocubu's Refrigeration (11885) 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a65e8517c8fa
16:47:35 <amalloy> gammafunk: do you have an opinion on that PR? i'm inclined to apply it once a matching change for drain life is added, but wanted to run it by you since that was your commit. also, thoughts about patching that change back into 0.23? it seems like a substantial accidental change to a couple spells
16:52:54 <gammafunk> I don't know that a corresponding change needs to be made for drain life
16:53:02 <gammafunk> the dice def is probably right for that once
16:53:15 <gammafunk> since it didn't use a calculator, but just rolled and "average" and applied this
16:53:24 <gammafunk> I think that one was matched correctly
16:54:45 <gammafunk> s/rolled and/rolled an/
16:55:12 <gammafunk> the way it applied damage before was pretty weird, ozo's did a dice_def calculation at last, but then used an average calculation for other purposes
16:56:57 <gammafunk> looks like that was even changed in a subsequent commit
16:57:35 <gammafunk> %git ba00d9bbf4a
16:57:35 <Cheibriados> 07gammafunk02 * 0.23-a0-257-gba00d9b: Use better damage dice for Drain Life 10(5 months ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ba00d9bbf4a7
16:57:44 <gammafunk> yeah so that one should have ok zap data
16:58:56 <gammafunk> as far as applying it to 0.23, that's definitely the sort of thing we'd fix in a point release
16:59:18 <gammafunk> I haven't read the details of the PR but someone just needs to verify that the calculations for ozo's are correct, of course
16:59:58 <amalloy> yeah, i checked those calculations
17:00:13 <amalloy> and you're right, MP7 also replied to the PR saying drain life doesn't need a similar change
17:00:36 <amalloy> NP7
17:08:52 <Cheibriados> 03NormalPerson702 {amalloy} 07* 0.24-a0-121-gab847a3: Fix Ozocubu's Refrigeration (11885) 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ab847a317b82
17:14:07 <Cheibriados> Trying to cast summon mushrooms in wizmode crashes the game 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11889 by NormalPerson7
17:17:39 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.24-a0-121-gab847a317b (34)
17:18:49 <gammafunk> isn't that a monster spell
17:19:21 <gammafunk> those aren't supposed to be player castable and I recall there's a warning about that
17:19:26 <Cheibriados> "Fixing up corrupted PlaceInfo for Abyss (levels_seen is 6)" 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11890 by kitchen_ace
17:20:52 <gammafunk> advil: looks like 11890 is related to your recent fixes for placeinfo
17:21:03 <advil> yeah, it's sort of obvious
17:21:21 <advil> the problem that is
17:21:53 <advil> !flip PlaceInfo, again
17:21:54 <Sequell> (╯°□°)╯︵ uᴉɐƃɐ °ɟuIǝɔɐlԀ
17:22:00 <advil> though really, it's my fault again
17:24:49 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.24-a0-122-ge09df05: Fix PlaceInfo fixup more (11890) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e09df0593cbd
17:25:25 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[stone_soup-0.23] * 0.23.0-3-gf3c87f2: Fix PlaceInfo fixup more (11890) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f3c87f2df8b8
17:25:27 <advil> ??rebuild
17:25:27 <Sequell> rebuild[1/2]: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://underhound.eu:81/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ https://crawl.kelbi.org/rebuild/ Bug gammafunk, advil, |amethyst, or Nap.Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely.
17:27:01 <Kelbell> Stable (0.23) branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23.0-3-gf3c87f2df8
17:27:14 <advil> man cko is fast
17:27:18 <advil> I guess it's using ccache
17:27:35 <advil> cbro is still on d
17:28:20 <Henzell> Stable (0.23) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.23.0-3-gf3c87f2
17:29:26 <Eksell> Stable (0.23) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.23.0-3-gf3c87f2
17:30:26 <alexjurkiewicz> I think cko just doesn't clean the compilation directory between runs and uses a directory per branch
17:30:36 <alexjurkiewicz> which is probably effectively the same as ccache, I guess
17:30:51 <Cheibriados> Bailey closed portal graphical error 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11891 by lsdbranjevka
17:32:29 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.24-a0-122-ge09df0593c (34)
17:41:34 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.24-a0-123-ga2403f3: Quiet a gcc warning 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a2403f33072d
17:47:36 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.24-a0-123-ga2403f3307 (34)
18:14:13 <dontgetcocky> !winrate
18:14:17 <dontgetcocky> ??winrate
18:14:17 <Sequell> winrate[1/1]: This doesn't matter.
18:14:24 <dontgetcocky> What is the current win rate?
18:15:13 <advil> !tstats
18:15:29 <Sequell> Stats after 16 days (t): 2897 players, 949 runers, 447 winners, 1311 wins, 50791 games, winrate 2.58%, total player time 3y+37d+6:51:12.
18:16:20 <dontgetcocky> thanks
18:16:47 <dontgetcocky> This version is still driving me nuts. I think I got worse at the game or something
18:22:26 <dontgetcocky> ??tstats
18:22:26 <Sequell> tstats ~ stats ~ starting stats[1/3]: A character's starting stats are equal to species contribution + job contribution. See {starting stats[2]} for the species contributions and {starting stats[3]} for the job contributions.
18:22:45 <dontgetcocky> !tstats .22
18:22:46 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.24-a0-123-ga2403f3307 (34)
18:22:51 <Sequell> Stats after .22 days (t): 368 players, 56 runers, 31 winners, 33 wins, 1208 games, winrate 2.73%, total player time 16d+13:57:29.
18:22:59 <alexjurkiewicz> !tstats t0.22
18:23:04 <Sequell> Stats after t0.22 days (t): 0 players, 0 runers, 0 winners, 0 wins, 0 games, winrate NaN, total player time 0.
18:23:13 <alexjurkiewicz> hm
18:23:15 <alexjurkiewicz> !cmd !tstats
18:23:15 <Sequell> Command: !tstats => .echo $(let (arg1 ${1:-16} arg2 ${*:-t}) (let (t (concat $arg2 " !@bot " end<$(+ (stamptime (!lg * $arg2 1 fmt:"$end")) $arg1))) "Stats after $arg1 days $(concat '(' $arg2 ')'): $(=tstats.players $t), $(=tstats.runers $t), $(=tstats.winners $t), $(=tstats.wins $t), $(=tstats.games $t), $(=tstats.winrate $t), $(=tstats.playertime $t)."))
18:23:31 <alexjurkiewicz> !tstats 16 t0.22
18:24:49 <Sequell> Stats after 16 days (t0.22): 3130 players, 1164 runers, 629 winners, 2146 wins, 76126 games, winrate 2.82%, total player time 4y+289d+12:09:17.
18:25:33 <dontgetcocky> The .23 rate is at least lower than it was last time I asked
18:26:03 <dontgetcocky> !tstats * t0.21
18:26:42 <Sequell> Stats after * days (t0.21): 0 players, 0 runers, 0 winners, 0 wins, 0 games, winrate NaN, total player time 0.
18:27:07 <dontgetcocky> "<advil> we looked at the stats earlier today, and at this point in the tournament, the t0.21 winrate was 2.59%, the t0.22 winrate was 3.30%, and the current  winrate is 2.79%"
18:27:35 <dontgetcocky> lower than .21 by .01%
18:28:02 <alexjurkiewicz> I assume that would be well within the noise
18:29:05 <gammafunk> 0.22 is just higher due to ghosts going into vaults
18:29:21 <gammafunk> 0.23 is lower due to trap effects (most likely)
18:30:08 <Pinkbeast> !tstats 16 0.20
18:30:09 <gammafunk> it's also equalized a bit, since when we check those winrate 0.22 was a lot higher in earlier tournament
18:31:12 <Sequell> Stats after 16 days (0.20): 2900 players, 1030 runers, 519 winners, 1479 wins, 66731 games, winrate 2.22%, total player time 4y+25d+8:26:47.
18:31:23 <dontgetcocky> I guess I got too confident after winning or something
18:31:49 <dontgetcocky> It's really pissing me off though lol
18:31:50 <gammafunk> well sometimes changes might affect certain play styles more than others
18:31:54 <Pinkbeast> dontgetcocky: You should try a nom du IRC to remind you of that
18:32:10 <gammafunk> sort of depends as to whether there's a lot of consistency to how you're dying
18:32:42 <dontgetcocky> Well that's what I was thinking gammafunk but nobody can confirm if there were any changes to things not mentioned in the changelog
18:32:52 <dontgetcocky> pinkbeast what's that?
18:33:15 <Pinkbeast> dontgetcocky: I think practically anyone can confirm whether or not there were non-trivial changes not in the changelog. There weren't.
18:33:22 <dontgetcocky> I can say I'm dying more often pre-lair and I've tried my most experienced race/class probably 50 times now
18:33:23 <gammafunk> nobody can confirm? all significant changes were put in the changelog
18:33:51 <Pinkbeast> !gamesby dontgetcocky 0.23
18:33:52 <Sequell> dontgetcocky (0.23) has played 47 games, between 2019-02-09 17:11:28 and 2019-02-19 23:13:50, won 0, high score 455544, total score 917534, total turns 400348, play-time/day 2:10:42, total time 23:57:46.
18:33:52 <dontgetcocky> well maybe more like 20 times
18:33:57 <gammafunk> are these actually race/classes that you win most of the time
18:34:10 <amalloy> !lairratio dontgetcocky t
18:34:18 <dontgetcocky> no, but I have one once, and I typically get much farther
18:34:20 <amalloy> !lairratio dontgetcocky recent !t
18:34:26 <gammafunk> if your winrate is already very low, you're not really going to use a sample like that to measure the difference
18:35:00 <Pinkbeast> !lairratio dontgetcocky dsbe
18:35:27 <amalloy> i guess lairratio is no longer fast enough to use
18:35:41 <Sequell> 90s limit exceeded: killed !lairratio dontgetcocky t
18:35:58 <alexjurkiewicz> rip sequell. Anyone know what sort of box it's running on at the moment?
18:36:01 <gammafunk> it worked the other day, seems to depend on sequell's load
18:36:30 <alexjurkiewicz> i wonder if there's any limiting of simultaneous queries going on
18:36:48 <dontgetcocky> ??nom
18:36:49 <Sequell> I don't have a page labeled nom in my learndb. Did you mean: bom, lom, nem, nfm, nome, nomi, om, oom, xom.
18:37:54 <Sequell> dontgetcocky (dsbe) has reached Lair in 3 of 28 attempts: 11%
18:38:09 <Sequell> dontgetcocky (recent !t) has reached Lair in 26 of 203 attempts: 13%
18:39:16 <Pinkbeast> !lairratio dontgetcocky t
18:39:21 <Sequell> dontgetcocky (t) has reached Lair in 4 of 47 attempts: 9%
18:39:23 <gammafunk> if you're having trouble reaching lair with a berserker then you're still very new at this game
18:39:27 <amalloy> dontgetcocky: a nom de plume is a pen name. a nom du irc would be an irc nickname
18:39:58 <Pinkbeast> dontgetcocky: so what's your most experienced race/class, if not the one you've won?
18:40:38 <dontgetcocky> DsBe, the one I've won
18:41:39 <Pinkbeast> dontgetcocky: You haven't tried it "50 times now"; you have 28 DsBe total, tournament and before.
18:42:23 <dontgetcocky> I don't think that could possibly be right. It seems like way more
18:42:41 <dontgetcocky> but I did say more like 20 times
18:42:50 <dontgetcocky> in .23, that is
18:43:19 <gammafunk> experienced players consider berserker an extremely easy species to make it to lair with, nearly regardless of species, and your rate at doing that before 0.23 was quite low
18:44:01 <dontgetcocky> Well experience is also a factor. I think somewhere along that line I got considerably better
18:44:09 <gammafunk> s/easy species/easy class/
18:44:26 <Pinkbeast> 14 attempts; one of which reached Lair. You can't infer much from so small a sample size.
18:44:47 <dontgetcocky> I also consider lair easy to get to. Seems that way at least
18:44:57 <dontgetcocky> Maybe my memory is completely scrambled
18:46:45 <Pinkbeast> Above (recent games, not tournament) you reached it on 13% of 203 games. Of course games where one reaches Lair last longer on average, so more of one's memory is of playing them.
18:48:09 <dontgetcocky> !lairratio dontgetcocky dsbe recent !t
18:48:11 <Sequell> dontgetcocky (dsbe recent !t) has reached Lair in 2 of 14 attempts: 14%
18:49:14 <dontgetcocky> Can you check how many times DsBe has reached lair out of those 203 games?
18:49:26 <Pinkbeast> dontgetcocky: You just did that.
18:49:55 <dontgetcocky> Wierd... that... can't be accurate
18:51:04 <Pinkbeast> I don't see why not.
18:55:51 <dontgetcocky> ??lairratio
18:55:51 <Sequell> I don't have a page labeled lairratio in my learndb.
18:55:57 <dontgetcocky> !cmd !lairratio
18:56:16 <Sequell> Command: !lairratio => .echo $(let (x (!lm ${1:-.} $* br.enter=lair ktyp!= x=cdist(gid) fmt:"${x}" stub:"0") y (!lg ${1:-.} $* fmt:"${n}" stub:"0") player (name_fixup $1)) "${player}$(if "${*}" " (${*})" "") has reached Lair in $x of $y attempts: $(int (+ 0.5 (/ (* 100.0 $x) $y)))%")
18:56:37 <dontgetcocky> What do the t and !t mean?
18:57:56 <gammafunk> keyword for "current tournament" with !t meaning "not the current tournament"
18:59:37 <dontgetcocky> Oh well. I'm so fucking confused. Better just ignore my memory and keep trying I guess
19:00:26 <dontgetcocky> I did come super close to winning .23 and did the most retarded thing
19:00:56 <dontgetcocky> Like I literally had the most perfect char ever and I entered a vault thing not noticing the ghost
19:01:35 <dontgetcocky> Had 2 runes, could have EASILY won
19:21:21 <dontgetcocky> now that I think about it though, I usually try to finish dungeon before entering lair so that might help explain the percentages, to my credit
19:21:41 <dontgetcocky> maybe something I need to reconsider
19:23:00 <gammafunk> ??order
19:23:00 <Sequell> hyperelliptic[1/2]: Lair -> D:12 -> Orc -> D:15 -> S:3 -> maybe other S:3 -> maybe Elf:1-2 -> get one S rune -> Vaults:4 -> get second S rune -> maybe Crypt -> Depths:5 -> get three runes -> Zot ("S" means Shoals/Snake/Spider/Swamp)
19:23:14 <gammafunk> good advice to follow
19:23:35 <gammafunk> but this discussion is a bit more suited to ##crawl rather than ##crawl-dev
19:29:04 <dontgetcocky> I follow that except for the dungeon part. It might be bad luck and noob habits influencing it but I always felt like it was easier to do dungeon
19:29:29 <dontgetcocky> moving to ##crawl
21:13:40 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
21:27:42 -!- greqrg is now known as toneLive
21:44:25 <advil> has anyone noticed anything off with ctrl-p in webtiles?
21:44:35 <advil> because it is definitely off in local tiles
21:45:49 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
21:48:17 <gammafunk> yes, I've had it be scrolled to the top
21:48:37 <gammafunk> although I can't be 100% sure that it was webtiles and not local console
21:49:09 <gammafunk> but since I don't test in tiles, that confirms that either local console or webtiles also has the problem :)
21:49:32 <gammafunk> my "local console" is also a webtiles build, if that matters
21:52:15 <advil> the scrolling to the top is supposed to be fixed
21:52:18 <advil> this is missing lines
22:07:45 <dontgetcocky> I use it quite a bit in tiles and haven't noticed
22:08:00 <dontgetcocky> but if it's missing lines that might be easy to not notice
22:10:20 <advil> I think this is a hidpi thing
22:10:43 <advil> that is specific to local tiles
22:11:13 <alexjurkiewicz> i haven't seen issues like that in webtiles
22:13:25 <advil> yeah I'm pretty sure I know what the problem is, it's some bad font size math
22:13:37 <advil> I can't even remember why I opened tiles now
22:21:04 -!- muffindrake1 is now known as muffindrake
22:35:14 <advil> does anyone know if the Text highlighting stuff is used anywhere? iirc this was for search, is that enabled anywhere?
23:40:54 -!- dontgetcocky_ is now known as dontgetcocky
23:59:24 <Eksell> Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.24-a0-123-ga2403f3 (34)