00:00:05 <Eksell> Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.24-a0-92-g7d8ec57 (34)
00:10:56 <gammafunk> floraline: yes that's the troll you're heard us talking about in the past
00:11:25 <gammafunk> I can disable their ability to set a clan name if others feel it's a problem
00:11:45 <gammafunk> but it's not offensive otherwise
00:13:30 <gammafunk> there are some other clan names that are in bad taste, like one recently created by some cwz players
00:14:30 <floraline> no i don't have a problem with it, i was just concerned that it was somehow malware or something
00:16:27 <floraline> i do feel that players shouldn't be using things like player or clan names to advertise websites
00:17:03 <floraline> but it's not otherwise offensive, like you said
00:17:26 <ebering> the fair crawling clause is lifted from World Sailing's Rule 69; that organization allows sponsors
00:18:08 <gammafunk> yeah, it's just something where we'd have to decide if we want allow people to do that
00:18:38 <gammafunk> which I guess I don't have a strong opinion about
00:19:11 <ebering> I don't either; it's a bit tacky but this time around I think it's fine to leave up
00:19:39 <ebering> and revisit it in 0.24 if people feel strongly we should have a principle of ameteurism
00:20:46 <gammafunk> well to be clear I'm not looking to play constant wack-a-mole in terms of "we'll allow it *this* time but *next* time"
00:21:05 <gammafunk> but yeah, unless someone else feel strongly about the matter
00:39:38 <rchandra> do qaz clouds anger the obsidian axe allies?
00:56:03 <CanOfWorms> no
00:57:57 <rchandra> thanks - found frostbite for sale to avert my suicidal tendency though
01:05:02 <alexjurkiewicz> there is also ultraviolent's crawling name
01:05:04 <alexjurkiewicz> !lg uv4
01:05:05 <Sequell> 4126. YTcomUltraviolent4 the Slayer (L27 DDMo of Makhleb), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2019-02-09 04:24:58, with 1949541 points after 54382 turns and 2:12:45.
01:06:38 <gammafunk> well we can just ban all of australia, that ought to take care of that
01:08:26 <alexjurkiewicz> there is a clan with an actual rude word
01:08:52 <gammafunk> there are a couple
01:09:08 <gammafunk> a few even
01:10:24 <alexjurkiewicz> ah yup
01:12:45 <gammafunk> =nemelex VpCj
01:12:47 <Sequell> Defined keyword: nchoice => GhVM|TeEn|VpCj
01:28:02 <Gretell> Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.24-a0-92-g7d8ec57 (34)
01:58:56 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.24-a0-92-g7d8ec57
02:25:37 <Yermak> It looks like Singing Sword's screams are silent.
02:59:47 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.24-a0-92-g7d8ec57
03:30:52 <Kelbell> Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-1682-g99b902e015
03:52:37 <Cheibriados> Download Blackmart Alpha Apk 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11868 by kapov
09:48:09 <advil> is deleting an account in mantis the right thing to do for spamming? or is there somewhere else it should be deleted? not sure how sso mantis/tavern works
09:56:25 <advil> well, I deleted the account and the issue, hopefully that doesn't leave a tavern account active somehow
10:01:49 <advil> re names, for the next tournament we should possibly be explicit about name policies (though I think our conduct rule at least vaguely covers past cases where we've banned someone)
10:02:58 <advil> in this particular instance, I imagine he's doing it at least partly to get a rise out of us
10:03:08 <advil> I don't think blacklisting would be a good solution
10:04:04 <advil> given that we don't have an explicit anti-spamming-in-your-clan-name-rule (who would have thought we needed that tho)
10:04:20 <advil> (I'm not objective but imo this stunt makes him look like an idiot more than anything, so that would favor ignoring)
10:14:17 <Lasty> Is this re: "download blackmarket alpha apk"?
10:18:51 <advil> hi Lasty!
10:18:52 <advil> yeah
10:19:17 <advil> well the tournament name thing is something else
10:19:47 <Lasty> re: mantis spamming, removing the mantis account definitely seems like the right thing to do, tho I have nothing to add in terms of how that impacts tavern
10:20:16 <advil> ok, I have done that
10:20:26 <advil> as far as I know that username only spammed mantis anyways
11:40:30 <wheals> ??t
11:40:30 <Sequell> tournament[1/3]: The 0.23 tournament will run from 20:00 UTC Friday 8 February 2019 to 20:00 UTC Sunday 24 February 2019. Tournament home page: https://crawl.develz.org/tournament/0.23/
11:51:02 <ebering> I thought we locked the ghosts up into vaults
12:01:53 <gammafunk> !kw ghostvaults
12:01:54 <Sequell> Keyword: ghostvaults => vlong>=0.22-a0-512-g0943f25
12:01:56 <gammafunk> !gkills wheals ghostvaults
12:02:02 <Sequell> No games for * (ikiller~~^(wheals|hyperwheals)'s?_ghost ghostvaults).
12:02:36 <gammafunk> !gkills devteam ghostvaults
12:02:44 <Sequell> 3 kills by devteam's ghost (ghostvaults): djanatyn, Monsterracer, Tophatdictator
12:02:49 <Lasty> %git :/[dD]epths
12:02:49 <Cheibriados> 07alexjurkiewicz02 * 0.24-a0-70-gb03b054: Add -branch-json 10(4 days ago, 7 files, 53+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b03b05411e2b
12:03:05 <Lasty> is there supposed to be no up stair back to the dungeon from Depths:1?
12:03:51 <Lasty> my map shows that there should be one . . .
12:05:10 <gammafunk> yeah, there must be
12:05:15 <gammafunk> sure it's not buried by an item?
12:05:32 <Lasty> pretty sure -- G< and X< don't find anything
12:05:33 <gammafunk> or a monster in the map cache
12:05:40 <gammafunk> &watch lasty
12:05:42 <Lasty> I'll try exploring the whole level
12:05:49 <Sequell> http://crawl.berotato.org:8080/#watch-Lasty
12:06:03 <gammafunk> I see it at the far north
12:06:10 <gammafunk> on the minimap
12:06:11 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.24-a0-92-g7d8ec57 (34)
12:06:12 <Lasty> ah, I found it!
12:06:27 <Lasty> here, by the zig portal, is where I started the map
12:06:38 <gammafunk> you probably got teleported
12:06:59 <gammafunk> by exploration effect
12:06:59 <gammafunk> as you entered the level
12:06:59 <Lasty> ah, heh
12:07:09 <Lasty> I thought I checked for that, but not certain.
12:07:30 <Lasty> &dump lasty
12:07:31 <Sequell> http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/Lasty/Lasty.txt
12:07:41 <gammafunk> !lm lasty br.enter=depths -tv
12:09:12 <Sequell> 90s limit exceeded: killed !lm lasty br.enter=depths -tv
12:09:16 <Lasty> hah
12:10:34 <gammafunk> yeah, was teleport exploration effect
12:10:56 <Lasty> ahh
12:10:59 <Lasty> cool
13:11:50 <gammafunk> =nemelex VpAE
13:11:52 <Sequell> Defined keyword: nchoice => GhVM|TeEn|VpCj|VpAE
13:14:56 <ebering> gross
13:14:58 <ebering> so many vampires
13:15:45 <Cheibriados> 22.1 Save File to 23.0 Gauntlet Crash 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11869 by Princepon
13:31:23 <gammafunk> sample size of four
13:34:02 <advil> wonder if this is related to the place_info crashes
13:34:14 <advil> it's at least similar in that not just any upgraded save triggers the crash
13:34:45 <advil> I can easily fix those place_info crashes but I just cannot figure out why it's not getting initialized for some save transfers
13:35:01 <advil> also, kind of surprising that we haven't encountered it online, so maybe that's related somehow
13:42:36 <gammafunk> !lg * recent nchoice-0.22 s=crace x=+cdist(cls) fmt:"${.}: $x[0]"
13:42:36 <Sequell> 22086 games for * (recent nchoice-0.22): Halfling: 3, Deep Dwarf: 3, Spriggan: 3, Barachi: 3, Vine Stalker: 3, Deep Elf: 3, Gnoll: 3, Centaur: 2, Ghoul: 2, Merfolk: 2, Ogre: 2, Octopode: 2, Formicid: 2, Tengu: 2, Demigod: 1, Vampire: 1, Draconian: 1, Kobold: 1, Hill Orc: 1, Human: 1, Mummy: 1
13:42:36 <gammafunk> tends to balance out over tourney
13:42:36 <gammafunk> !lg * recent nchoice-0.21 s=crace x=+cdist(cls) fmt:"${.}: $x[0]"
13:42:38 <Sequell> 15333 games for * (recent nchoice-0.21): Barachi: 3, Halfling: 2, Vampire: 2, Formicid: 2, Centaur: 2, Tengu: 2, Kobold: 2, Ghoul: 2, Deep Elf: 2, Vine Stalker: 2, Deep Dwarf: 1, Merfolk: 1, Hill Orc: 1, Demigod: 1, Spriggan: 1, Gargoyle: 1, Mummy: 1, Felid: 1, Gnoll: 1, Octopode: 1
14:15:49 -!- Tiobot is now known as Guest85982
15:03:22 <advil> who wrote the shopping list
15:04:04 <gammafunk> the shopping list?
15:05:52 <advil> shopping.cc
15:07:04 <advil> nm it's better if I don't know
15:08:51 <gammafunk> haha
15:09:20 <gammafunk> we need a blame command that selects a random dev team member
15:12:23 <advil> every time I run across something to do with this thing I have to go through a "why would you *do* that" phase
15:15:11 <gammafunk> looks like shopping.cc goes all the way back to linley crawl
15:16:12 <advil> ok that's safe, I don't know anyone from those days really
15:16:24 <advil> I wonder if it was around the time of the travel patch
15:16:32 <advil> does store.cc go back to then?
15:16:48 <gammafunk> yes it does
15:17:39 <gammafunk> shopping.cc is in crawl 2.72 :o
15:18:16 <gammafunk> oh, hrm
15:18:16 <gammafunk> store.cc isn't in 4.0
15:18:17 <gammafunk> wonder if it's in 4.1a
15:18:33 <gammafunk> it is not
15:18:39 <gammafunk> so I guess store.cc is a dcss invention
15:18:45 <gammafunk> but it goes back to 2007 svn commits
15:18:54 <advil> yeah, it has the feel of that era
15:19:05 <gammafunk> %git  1202f9248def
15:19:05 <Cheibriados> 07Matthew_Cline02 * 0.4-a0-174-g1202f92: Added an actual vector version of CrawlHashTable, and removed the code for making a hash table imitate a vector.  Since there's now more than just one type of savable/restorable container, hash.cc and hash.h have been renamed to store.cc and store.h ("store" for storage). 10(11 years ago, 8 files, 2081+ 1630-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1202f9248def
15:19:14 <gammafunk> 0.4-a possibly
15:19:20 <gammafunk> ah
15:19:32 <gammafunk> I didn't read the full commit since it's all one one line
15:19:43 <gammafunk> so it was hash.cc prior to being store.cc
15:20:45 <gammafunk> but hash.cc seems to likewise be a dcss invention
15:24:45 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.24-a0-93-ge1bfdf8: Fix a shopping list crash 10(4 minutes ago, 2 files, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e1bfdf8443a3
15:25:44 <gammafunk> ah, looks like Matthew Cline is indeed to blame for hash.cc
15:26:13 <gammafunk> I can't be mad at him though, looking at the work he was doing, it included all sorts of difficult refactoring and redesign stuff accross the codebase
15:26:26 <gammafunk> apparently he made the artefact code generation scripts too
15:27:22 <advil> yeah, I think c++ was harder to do well in those days
15:28:04 <advil> we are all arrogant and lazy with our c++11 conveniences
15:33:44 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.24-a0-93-ge1bfdf8443 (34)
15:35:16 <gammafunk> !kw portals
15:35:35 <Sequell> No keyword 'portals'
15:35:35 <gammafunk> !kw portal
15:35:35 <Sequell> Keyword: portal => place=icecv|volcano|lab|bailey|sewer|bazaar|ossuary|wizlab|trove|desolation
15:35:35 <gammafunk> place=icecv|volcano|lab|bailey|sewer|bazaar|ossuary|wizlab|trove|desolation|gauntlet
15:35:35 <gammafunk> !kw portal place=icecv|volcano|lab|bailey|sewer|bazaar|ossuary|wizlab|trove|desolation|gauntlet
15:35:35 <Sequell> Defined keyword: portal => place=icecv|volcano|lab|bailey|sewer|bazaar|ossuary|wizlab|trove|desolation|gauntlet
15:41:42 <gammafunk> !tstats 1
15:41:47 <gammafunk> !tstats 1 t0.22
15:41:49 <Sequell> Stats after 1 days (t): 906 players, 206 runers, 100 winners, 123 wins, 4831 games, winrate 2.55%, total player time 85d+15:37:55.
15:41:50 <gammafunk> !tstats 1 t0.21
15:42:06 <Sequell> Stats after 1 days (t0.22): 889 players, 238 runers, 137 winners, 189 wins, 5064 games, winrate 3.73%, total player time 97d+19:19:10.
15:42:13 <gammafunk> participation looking good relative both to 0.22 and last winter tournament
15:42:34 <Sequell> Stats after 1 days (t0.21): 901 players, 232 runers, 123 winners, 159 wins, 5403 games, winrate 2.94%, total player time 97d+3:01:22.
15:42:36 <gammafunk> looks like we might have brought winrate down a bit too since ghost vualts
15:42:41 <gammafunk> and possibly then some
16:32:43 <travis-ci> The build was broken. (master - e1bfdf8 #11117 : advil): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/491052675
16:45:31 <advil> I wonder if I should disable the random seed testing on master
16:45:48 <advil> it finds exciting things, but also, mostly of interest to me
16:52:25 <gammafunk> I suppose it could arguably get in the way of seeing more important bugs, especially if you happen to not be around for a while
17:19:22 <alexjurkiewicz> there is an option you can give to travis to say "this step can fail, don't fail the whole build" iirc
18:26:30 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.24-a0-93-ge1bfdf8443 (34)
22:49:50 <ebering> !crashlog ebering
22:49:51 <Sequell> 3. ebering, XL11 MiBe, T:5675 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/ebering/crash-ebering-20180811-144938.txt