00:00:43 <Eksell> Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.24-a0-91-g4e4936a (34)
00:02:03 <Eksell> Stable (0.23) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.23.0-0-g91c98b2
00:06:11 <Henzell> Stable (0.23) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.23.0-0-g91c98b2
00:16:03 <johnstein> gammafunk, cao should be ready
00:16:09 <gammafunk> thanks
00:16:27 <johnstein> np. you should thank 2018 johnstein for making good notes
00:20:26 <gammafunk> johnstein: still planning to restart cbro webtiles?
00:20:32 <gammafunk> otherwise most can't update their RC
00:20:42 <johnstein> doing it now
00:20:45 <alexjurkiewicz> advil: typo in the second last comment line of ce0dbf48
00:20:45 <gammafunk> thx
00:21:40 <johnstein> I'll have to do another restart later to remove experimentals and fix the banners
00:22:13 <johnstein> but should be good to go
00:22:58 <gammafunk> yep, looks good
00:23:14 <gammafunk> I've added both to tournament (and to sequell, cao will be added to that soon)
01:06:58 <Gretell> Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.23.0-0-g91c98b2 (34)
01:22:05 <Gretell> Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.24-a0-91-g4e4936a (34)
01:59:31 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.24-a0-91-g4e4936a
03:00:26 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.24-a0-91-g4e4936a
03:30:56 <Kelbell> Fork (bcrawl) on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-1682-g99b902e015
03:54:01 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
08:46:25 <johnstein> ok, experimentals removed from cbro. I think everything's all ready to go
09:12:42 <johnstein> ^status
09:12:58 <johnstein> oh forgot to get Rotatell a freenode account
09:38:35 <Cheibriados> Save files corrupted by update to 23.0 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11863 by tomtherat
09:49:13 <Cheibriados> Merfolk transmuter no free body parts 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11864 by sterra
10:29:50 <gammafunk> advil: not sure if this is actually a regression and also not sure what the cause would be, but objstat with 1k iterations took about 9.7 hours to fun for the "extended-no-abyss-pan-zig" set (all branches save for those), which is maybe about an hour longer
10:30:05 <gammafunk> s/to fun/to run/
10:30:39 <gammafunk> at least my notes say it takes nearly 9 hours, but I don't have an exact time difference there
10:31:34 <gammafunk> could be any number of reasons for that, but the 4 cpu instance I'm running this on should be unchanged from the last time
11:14:13 <Cheibriados> ASSERT(!place_info.is_global()) in 'tags.cc' at line 4209 failed. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11865 by MeanWeen
11:23:19 <elliptic> !time
11:23:20 <Sequell> Time: Feb 08, 2019, 04:23:20 PM, UTC. The 2019 0.23 tournament starts in 3 hours, 36 minutes and 39 seconds.
11:24:42 <Lantell> Stable (0.23) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23.0-0-g91c98b23f6
11:33:12 <gammafunk> elliptic: going to do an all-felids tournament streak?
11:36:28 <elliptic> seems unlikely
11:36:41 <elliptic> did just win a felid of newelex though
11:37:46 <elliptic> goldified decks are great, but the god still doesn't appeal much to me
11:40:48 <Cheibriados> Gold pieces are sometimes not shown on top of piles - I have to save and restart 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11866 by Turgon
11:54:13 <ebering> advil: those two save compat bugs are presumably the thing you fixed
11:54:27 <ebering> it seems save compat is important for our offline players in this case :/
11:58:57 <elliptic> hm, it looks like sequell stopped getting new logfiles/milestones about 13 hours ago?
11:59:34 <elliptic> !lg *
11:59:36 <Sequell> 10076031. philosophygeek the Poker (L6 MfSk), slain by a worker ant on D:4 on 2019-02-08 03:56:11, with 251 points after 5677 turns and 0:09:35.
12:04:47 <gammafunk> yeah
12:04:57 <gammafunk> that may due to the frequent changes we've been making to the sequell config
12:04:59 <gammafunk> to add new servers
12:05:06 <gammafunk> I'll ask greensnark about that
12:08:56 <gammafunk> just sent him an email, so hopefully he can restart it today
12:09:35 <gammafunk> ah, looks like snark is already taking a look :)
12:10:04 <gammafunk> !lg *
12:10:05 <Sequell> 10076031. philosophygeek the Poker (L6 MfSk), slain by a worker ant on D:4 on 2019-02-08 03:56:11, with 251 points after 5677 turns and 0:09:35.
12:10:20 <gammafunk> will take a little while for it to process the backlog, most likely
12:32:08 <advil> ebering: actually, I have no idea what that is
12:32:23 <advil> it looks like it's an upgrade from an older version
12:32:55 <advil> re the thing I fixed, it seems like we should do a 0.23.1 release not too long after t, so we can incorporate it then
12:33:36 <advil> ah a new report was posted with more details
12:34:13 <advil> afaik place_info stuff shouldn't interact with my specific changes
12:34:27 <advil> I did test upgrading some older saves but I'm not sure I tested 0.21
12:35:37 <advil> the crash definitely replicates though
12:48:18 <gammafunk> heads-up from snark re: sequell
12:48:23 <gammafunk> Sequell seems to have hit some data consistency issues and is failing to sync games because of SQL constraint issues. I'll have to take a closer look on the weekend, but I may need to do a DB rebuild.
12:50:09 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
12:51:50 <advil> %git 480796749b98
12:51:50 <Cheibriados> 07advil02 * 0.20-a0-712-g4807967: Correctly clear place info on game reset 10(1 year, 11 months ago, 3 files, 5+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/480796749b98
12:51:58 <advil> this bug sounds an awful lot like this old one
12:52:47 <advil> no idea why it would pop up again
13:48:36 <gammafunk> advil: are you playing in the tournament this time around?
13:48:37 <gammafunk> I'm not sure how much I'll be able to play, not a lot for sure
14:42:36 <gammafunk> !kw nchoice XXXX
14:42:37 <Sequell> No keyword 'XXXX'
14:47:24 <gammafunk> advil: in cast you're monitoring, I've stopped the script and will start it just after tournament start, so that we get the nchoice asap
14:47:28 <gammafunk> s/cast/case/
14:53:33 <Yermak> Is there any official "gun shot" designating the start of the tourney? I'm always late for couple of minutes because of the fear to start too early.
14:54:43 <gammafunk> Yermak: picking on nemelex choice
14:54:53 <gammafunk> that means the scripts have seen that the tournament starts for sure
14:55:04 <gammafunk> and I'll be starting the script a couple seconds after the start time
14:55:07 <gammafunk> (in a couple minutes)
14:55:20 <Yermak> Does this mean we have to spam "!nchoice" in chat until it gives a responce?
14:55:29 <gammafunk> refresh the web page
14:55:36 <gammafunk> nchoice is updated manually in sequell
14:55:50 <Yermak> Refreshing web page didn't work well in the past.
14:56:03 <Yermak> It was well past several minutes.
14:56:06 <gammafunk> servers do report their own time, so if the server says it's after the start then it's after the start
14:56:15 <gammafunk> yeah last time I didn't start the script right after
14:56:19 <gammafunk> tell you what, I'll ping you
14:56:32 <gammafunk> anyhow the page will update very quickly this time
14:56:35 <Yermak> thanks (:
14:56:36 <ebering> dcss devteam playing favorites with top player
14:56:42 <ebering> the Enquirer will want to know about this!!!
14:56:57 <gammafunk> well you went and upped the "player's favorite dev" game
14:57:03 <gammafunk> so I have to up my game as well
14:58:16 <gammafunk> perhaps we should have a webtiles countdown timer for the lobby
14:58:27 <gammafunk> and tournament mode in the config
14:58:45 <gammafunk> bonus points if it works in dgl as well
14:58:54 <Yermak> Stupid question: does game start at the moment you click "0.23" or when character is picked?
14:59:08 <gammafunk> when the game actually begin, not during choice
14:59:20 <gammafunk> so clicking, menu of choice don't matter
14:59:25 <gammafunk> actually arriving at turn 0 does
14:59:29 <gammafunk> that generates the milestone
14:59:48 <gammafunk> !time
14:59:48 <Sequell> Time: Feb 08, 2019, 07:59:48 PM, UTC. The 2019 0.23 tournament starts in 11 seconds.
15:00:00 <gammafunk> !time
15:00:01 <Sequell> Time: Feb 08, 2019, 08:00:01 PM, UTC. The 2019 0.23 tournament ends in 15 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes and 58 seconds.
15:00:03 <gammafunk> Yermak: GO GO GO
15:01:12 <gammafunk> wow guess processing team does take a minute or so
15:01:21 <gammafunk> there we go
15:01:24 <gammafunk> it was like 30 seconds
15:01:32 <gammafunk> !kw nemelex GhVM
15:01:32 <Sequell> 'nemelex' is built-in: nemelex => god='Nemelex Xobeh'
15:01:35 <gammafunk> er
15:01:39 <gammafunk> !kw nchoice GhVM
15:01:39 <Sequell> Defined keyword: nchoice => GhVM
15:01:44 <gammafunk> !nchoice
15:01:47 <Sequell> GhVM: 0 wins || No GhVM games in progress.
15:07:38 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.24-a0-92-g7d8ec57: Add a trunk reminder for the 0.23 tournament 10(83 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7d8ec5708864
15:16:10 <floraline> ASSERT(props.exists(VISITED_LEVELS_KEY)) in 'files.cc' at line 1435 failed.
15:16:22 <floraline> one of my players is crashing attempting to start a 0.23 game
15:17:28 <floraline> https://crawl.kelbi.org/crawl/morgue/RoGGa/crash-RoGGa-20190208-201344.txt
15:17:58 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.24-a0-92-g7d8ec57088 (34)
15:24:59 <gammafunk> looks like that bug advil addressed earlier
15:25:12 <gammafunk> this game was started as an earlier beta version and resumed
15:26:00 <floraline> it won't be fixed during the tournament, right?
15:26:05 <floraline> so this player's only option is to lose their save file
15:26:27 <gammafunk> well it may well get fixed
15:26:34 <gammafunk> we'd need to look at why it's happening
15:26:43 <gammafunk> advil is the one who can most likely fix it the fastest
15:27:56 <advil> bleh
15:28:07 <advil> didn't I fix that before tagging?
15:31:34 <advil> was this on starting a brand new game?
15:31:39 <alexjurkiewicz> !nchoice
15:31:49 <Sequell> GhVM: 0 wins || Kellhus: CDO, L10 Grappler of Ru || TheNamelessOne: CXC, L8 Ruffian of Makhleb || sporadicgroup: CBRO, L8 Fighter of No God || floatboth: CUE, L7 Stinger of Ashenzari || Malchor: CAO, L6 Ruffian of No God || mdonais: CAO, L6 Stinger of Ashenzari || Amao: CKO, L6 Ruffian of Wu Jian || puimuR: CUE, L5 Ruffian of Makhleb || bookman: CAO, L4 Ruffian of Ru || rwhughston: CAO, L1 Stinger...
15:32:05 <gammafunk> advil: no, it was an early beta game that transferred to 0.23.0
15:32:08 <floraline> it's an existing save file from Feb 3
15:32:35 <gammafunk> transferred twice it seems
15:32:36 <gammafunk> Version history:
15:32:36 <gammafunk> Game started: 0.23-b1-13-gf37ab262a9
15:32:38 <gammafunk> 0.23-b1-49-g13d58571b5
15:32:52 <advil> it looks like it's turn 0, so losing it wouldn't be too bad
15:33:16 <advil> sorry rogga
15:33:44 <advil> well, I guess there's a sequell issue
15:34:06 <advil> though if he wants to play a tournament game he might aim to quit it anyways
15:34:25 <floraline> is it safe to just delete the save file?
15:34:25 <floraline> that is what i've offered
15:34:34 <advil> yeah, it'll leave a dangling game in sequell I think
15:34:36 <gammafunk> yeah, that shouldn't cause any problems
15:34:44 <gammafunk> and right, sequell will think it's alive
15:34:46 <advil> but that's probably ok
15:34:46 <gammafunk> but
15:34:47 <gammafunk> !kw alive
15:34:48 <Sequell> Keyword: alive => recent ktyp= type!=crash
15:34:56 <gammafunk> we have a filter so eventually it won't think that :)
15:35:01 <gammafunk> pretty minor issue anyhow
15:35:03 <advil> ah ok
15:35:15 <gammafunk> !locateall
15:35:18 <advil> yeah if he's ok with deleting it I think that's the best option
15:35:28 <Sequell> gammafunk: CKO 0.24-a, L14 MuEE of Gozag
15:35:32 <gammafunk> BUT
15:35:34 <gammafunk> !locateallall
15:35:46 <Sequell> gammafunk: CBRO squarelos-0.17 0.17-a, L1 HuWz of No God | CKO 0.24-a, L14 MuEE of Gozag | CSZO 0.13-a, L10 KoCK of Xom | CSZO 0.14-a, L1 DEFE of No God | CSZO chunkless 0.15-a, L1 NaFE of No God | CSZO 0.15-a, L1 DEWz of No God | CSZO smithgod rebased 0.15-a, L1 HuFi of No God | CSZO 0.15-a, L1 HuFi of No God | CSZO 0.15-a, L5 NaAs of No God | CSZO 0.16-a, L1 HuFi of No God | CSZO 0.16-a, L1 HuFi...
15:36:12 <advil> I can see from that stack trace that my assumptions about save compat were missing something
15:36:52 <floraline> just to make sure, the .cs file is the save file right? what's the .prf file for and does that need to be deleted too?
15:37:15 <advil> oh nm, that fix was not before tagging
15:37:18 <advil> just .cs
15:37:18 <gammafunk> just the .cs file; the prf file is what records their previous char selection details
15:37:26 <floraline> ok, thanks
15:37:35 <advil> so it's only turn 0 beta saves that have an unfixed issue
15:44:09 <advil> oh, re the upgrade errors on mantis
15:44:17 <advil> v. 1 of this bug was due to adding desolation
15:44:23 <advil> I bet it has recurred with labyrinth somehow
15:44:42 <advil> I thought I had done the original fix in a way that would prevent that, but perhaps not
15:45:02 <advil> %git 4c9d53b3c18
15:45:02 <Cheibriados> 07advil02 * 0.20-a0-713-g4c9d53b: Refine the fix for loading corrupt saves (amalloy) 10(1 year, 11 months ago, 1 file, 6+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4c9d53b3c18c
15:45:48 <advil> well, the emergency fixup definitely only handles desolation
15:51:09 <gammafunk> oh, someone in a lab transfered?
15:51:25 <gammafunk> I did test save compat for that
16:54:23 <advil> gammafunk: I think it would be transferring a game from before the branch existed, under certain conditions
16:54:47 <advil> that's what the desolation bug was anyways, and this is presenting in exactly the same way
16:55:08 <gammafunk> so in this case it was gauntlet that actually triggered the bug?
16:55:17 <gammafunk> you mentioned lab so I thought somehow that branch was involved
16:56:11 <gammafunk> glad I didn't go with my initial approach of attempting to replace the lab branch with gauntlet (in terms of enum)
16:56:19 <gammafunk> I realized it would make save compat a nightmare
16:57:14 <advil> er, sorry, yeah, gauntlet not lab
16:57:26 <advil> I was just saying the wrong thing
16:58:17 <advil> %git 480796749b9
16:58:17 <Cheibriados> 07advil02 * 0.20-a0-712-g4807967: Correctly clear place info on game reset 10(1 year, 11 months ago, 3 files, 5+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/480796749b98
16:58:29 <advil> this one has a description of the old bug (which is supposed to be fixed)
16:59:03 <gammafunk> geeze
16:59:26 <gammafunk> save_compatibility_nightmare.txt
16:59:26 <gammafunk> we really do need to bump major version
16:59:35 <advil> heh yeah
17:01:33 <advil> iirc there was some extra condition for replicating this
17:01:43 <advil> maybe it didn't replicate on debug builds or something
17:01:57 <advil> I haven't yet managed to construct a save that can get corrupted for 0.21 -> 0.23
17:02:08 <advil> though the uploaded save is definitely corrupted
17:05:45 <gammafunk> !lm elliptic t
17:05:46 <Sequell> 5. [2019-02-08 22:04:32] elliptic the Cleaver (L8 NaBe of Trog) killed Prince Ribbit on turn 6749. (D:7)
17:06:03 <gammafunk> I'm disappointed that it's not a felid, but a Naga is ok
17:09:29 <advil> re playing in the tournament, I'll probably play a bit, sometime
17:10:12 <gammafunk> well, feel free to add me as captain again, I don't even have a clan name
17:10:16 <gammafunk> nor other team members
17:10:19 <advil> heh
17:13:26 <advil> I might join my old team for this one if they need people
18:27:42 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.24-a0-92-g7d8ec57088 (34)
18:42:34 <gammafunk> =nemelex teen
18:42:36 <Sequell> Defined keyword: nchoice => GhVM|teen
18:47:40 <gammafunk> !kw nchoice GhVM|TeEn
18:47:41 <Sequell> Defined keyword: nchoice => GhVM|TeEn
19:11:24 <gammafunk> L-Lasty?
19:11:48 <Lasty> Rumors of my being alive have been greatly exaggerated
19:11:48 <Sequell> Lasty: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them.
19:12:16 <rchandra> tournament draws all the troublemakers out of the woodwork
19:12:16 <gammafunk> He's been unborn. Now he is truly unstoppable
19:13:10 <Lasty> Just saw garkov. Very nice. Now I just need to apply that premise to minmay's art
19:14:15 <alexjurkiewicz> nice UI for the tournament reminder in trunk
19:14:27 <gammafunk> UI?
19:14:36 <gammafunk> did that change
19:14:41 <rchandra> ??t
19:14:41 <Sequell> tournament[1/3]: The 0.23 tournament will run from 20:00 UTC Friday 8 February 2019 to 20:00 UTC Sunday 24 February 2019. Tournament home page: https://crawl.develz.org/tournament/0.23/
19:14:52 <alexjurkiewicz> dialog UI in webtiles. It used to be text in the message box. Now it's a pretty dialog
19:15:13 <gammafunk> hrm, that's probably just part of aidanh's UI reform
19:15:22 <gammafunk> or something; all I did was enable it in the usual way
19:15:35 <alexjurkiewicz> hi Lasty !
19:15:45 <Lasty> hey alexjurkiewicz! How ya doing?
19:16:03 <gammafunk> playing in this tournament, Lasty?
19:16:24 <Lasty> yep! I haven't crawled pretty much at all in the last 12 months, but it's time to get back in the saddle
19:16:37 <Lasty> how bout you?
19:16:49 <gammafunk> I will be playing a little; this was a busy release for a lot of us
19:16:55 <gammafunk> and I'm running tournament again etc
19:16:59 <Lasty> ah, fair!
19:17:10 <gammafunk> will be good to hear from you re: 0.23 features
19:17:35 <gammafunk> traps, gauntlet portal, maybe new nem if you get to try that
19:17:35 <rchandra> are old tournaments saved anywhere?
19:17:35 <gammafunk> among other stuff
19:17:35 <gammafunk> yes, still on dobrazupa; we need to move those over to cdo
19:17:41 <gammafunk> hopefully I can bug |amethyst about that at some point after tourney
19:17:45 <Lasty> I miss being active in crawl coding. I keep thinking of things I want to do now . . .
19:17:51 <gammafunk> that's good!
19:17:58 <Lasty> I'd love to weigh in on traps, gauntlet, new nem.
19:18:03 <rchandra> ah ok, so if I fix !tc and !tp for the current one they will work for old ones later
19:18:04 <Lasty> Also new unrands, right?
19:18:10 <gammafunk> yep, bunch of those changed
19:18:19 <gammafunk> obviously first thing you want work on is ranged reform, that goes without saying
19:18:40 <gammafunk> ??changelog
19:18:40 <Sequell> changelog[1/3]: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/docs/changelog.txt - often incomplete and/or out of date, see {changelog[3]} for an exhaustive list of changes.
19:18:42 <ebering> woah, Lasty is back
19:18:48 <gammafunk> this has all the gory details as always
19:18:58 <Lasty> hey ebering!
19:19:23 <Lasty> gammafunk: yeah, you already finished ranged reform, right? And also fixed luring forever?
19:19:29 <ebering> I have a secret plan to change ranged but only slightly to bait you into coming back and finishing the job
19:19:38 <gammafunk> uh...yeah..I have it in a local branch...just need to push that....
19:19:59 <rchandra> gammafunk: I didn't see a mention of the new Maurice-ID tech
19:20:07 <Lasty> ebering: haha, you monster
19:20:14 <gammafunk> hrm, which is that
19:20:22 <gammafunk> get him to steal your unided pots/scrolls?
19:20:25 <gammafunk> and does that actually work
19:20:35 <rchandra> it works for rings
19:20:39 <gammafunk> ah, right
19:20:42 <rchandra> and randarts
19:20:44 <gammafunk> v. nice tech
19:21:32 <gammafunk> seeded play, which advil basically single-handedly got working, also has a lot of amazing potential
19:21:57 <Lasty> yeah, that sounds awesome. I didn't even hear about that coming.
19:22:04 <Lasty> Nice work advil!
19:23:34 <alexjurkiewicz> about half of every player on CPO did at least one weekly challenge game in the past two weeks
19:23:46 <MikeHollis> hey guys just a quick question, is there somewhere other than in config.py that ssl needs enabled? I change ssl_options from none to the files and the server fails to start, turn it back off and it works fine
19:24:22 <gammafunk> do you get an error terminal when it starts?
19:24:27 <gammafunk> not sure how you're starting it
19:25:01 <MikeHollis> honestly I'm not terribly sure how I'm starting it anymore either, lol I've had scripts doing things forever, but not that I saw, let me make sure I'm not squelching it
19:25:36 <MikeHollis> nope not squelching it, so no feedback
19:25:46 <gammafunk> yeah, on our dgl-based setups we have it output to a logfile in the chroot
19:25:50 <gammafunk> but you're probably not using that setup
19:25:59 <MikeHollis> actually I'm one of the few that are, let me look at that
19:26:39 <gammafunk> oh, well most of our servers are in fact using that setup, but most outside users aren't
19:26:48 <gammafunk> either way, yeah check that file in the chroot
19:27:07 <MikeHollis> hmm no log file
19:27:16 <gammafunk> where are you checking (relative to chroot)?
19:27:26 <alexjurkiewicz> personally I'd suggest running webtiles behind a reverse proxy like nginx so you get better SSL support anyway
19:27:43 <gammafunk> yeah, that's another route; I think floraline is doing that as well?
19:27:45 <MikeHollis> ahh, well I was checking the root of the chroot, where is it in the directory structure
19:28:12 <MikeHollis> I plan on setting that up once I get it working directly
19:28:12 <gammafunk> let me see, one sec
19:28:55 <gammafunk> crawl-master/webserver
19:28:58 <MikeHollis> checking
19:28:59 <gammafunk> is where the webserver lives
19:29:11 <gammafunk> the actual logfile might be in a subdir from there
19:29:27 <gammafunk> yes, it's here
19:29:34 <gammafunk> /home/crawl/DGL/crawl-master/webserver/run/webtiles.log
19:29:38 <gammafunk> MikeHollis: ^
19:29:44 <gammafunk> so under run
19:29:55 <MikeHollis> found it
19:30:17 <gammafunk> https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:server:setting_up_dgamelaunch_and_webtiles
19:30:24 <gammafunk> is the general reference you might want to have handy for that setup
19:30:36 <gammafunk> check section 12.6
19:30:40 <gammafunk> there are some troubleshooting notes
19:33:31 <MikeHollis> yeah that's what I used originally, checking the troubleshooting section
19:36:03 <MikeHollis> okay so, enabling SSL only never says it's listening, and setting it to where both should load it says it's listening on 8180 twice, now checking the config file SSL options are enabled, and the port is 8443
19:36:22 <MikeHollis> but it doesn't actually throw any error related to the certificates
19:36:40 <MikeHollis> I'm using letsencrypt certs, there's no compatibility issues with them are there?
19:39:36 <gammafunk> floraline: not sure if you can give any tips to MikeHollis about setting up ssl with dgl setup for webtiles
19:41:12 <MikeHollis> https://pastebin.com/CJ9Hxc0e
19:41:30 <MikeHollis> these are the correct files for the correct parameters correct?
19:42:01 <MikeHollis> if I remember ccorrectly when I origingally tried to set this up, they had different extensions, which probably doesn't mean anything but I'm also not sure I matched them up correctly
19:46:51 <gammafunk> MikeHollis: hrm, do those files need to be readable from the chroot?
19:47:06 <gammafunk> because I assume you have chroot enabled for webtiles
19:47:33 <gammafunk> they may be loaded by webtiles before it does chroot hence may not need to be accessible
19:48:15 <gammafunk> ah
19:48:29 <gammafunk> Setting up SSL, assuming you know cert files, bundles or appending them as a .pem, and private server key
19:48:32 <gammafunk> create directory www/crawl_ssl in the chroot. Store files there and point to /var/www/crawl_ssl/file in ssl options.
19:48:43 <floraline> i am running a reverse proxy and also binding directly to :8081
19:48:57 <gammafunk> MikeHollis: are those locations you chose relative to chroot or is that your actual etc dir
19:49:06 <gammafunk> the instructions have you put the cert files in the chroot
19:49:26 <gammafunk> so I assume they actually need to be a path in chroot
19:52:29 <floraline> if i had to guess, there is a problem with your cert
19:54:21 <floraline> the ssl_options paths are relative to your chroot
19:55:35 <floraline> i suggest trying to bind only to secure and turn off nonsecure
19:55:45 <alexjurkiewicz> hey, what keeps netting me in zot:5 now?
19:55:49 <alexjurkiewicz> is that a klown pie effect?
19:55:52 <floraline> and make sure your ssl_address ssl_port and ssl_bind_pairs all match
19:56:14 <gammafunk> alexjurkiewicz: net traps net you from wherever they are now
19:56:17 <gammafunk> when they are triggered
19:56:32 <gammafunk> so they're "zotified"
20:02:14 <floraline> MikeHollis: also it might be easier to just use a reverse proxy, getting SSL working in something like apache or nginx is way easier. certbot will do it for you
20:02:23 <alexjurkiewicz> aha
20:14:46 <MikeHollis> chroot relative is probably my issue now that you mention it, I'll symlink and fix permissions in a minute and let you know
20:17:09 <gammafunk> symlink? just to be clear, the files need to actually be in the chroot, since once webtiles has done chroot, it can't see outside of chroot
20:17:22 <gammafunk> maybe you just mean symlink elsewhere in the chroot, but just in case
20:29:27 <gammafunk> Napkin: CDO looks like it's holding up ok during the tournament from my end
20:29:32 <gammafunk> thanks again for setting that up
20:32:46 <MikeHollis> ahh ok well I can copy them, no problem
20:33:05 <MikeHollis> gonna be a pain when updating the certs, but that's what scripts are made for
20:36:44 <MikeHollis> floraline, I'd prefer to use my existing apache setup, problem is I don't really know how the integrated webserver is setup so I don't know what special rules I need
20:42:35 <alexjurkiewicz> just got a randart wing with *Corrode and rCorr, seems a bit silly
20:45:47 <MikeHollis> got it :D thanks for your help @gammafunk @floraline
20:46:17 <gammafunk> alexjurkiewicz: well it's not *that* silly, since all the rcorr does is lower chance for *corrode to happen
20:46:21 <gammafunk> but it will still happen
20:46:27 <gammafunk> so you just got *corrode-lite
20:50:47 <MikeHollis> actually one last question, something updated that caused a message about trunk games not counting for tournaments, I'm pretty sure I had this before but I forget where I turned it off, does anyone know where that's at offhand
20:53:25 <gammafunk> %git
20:53:25 <Cheibriados> 07gammafunk02 * 0.24-a0-92-g7d8ec57: Add a trunk reminder for the 0.23 tournament 10(6 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7d8ec5708864
20:53:46 <gammafunk> in Makefile line 115
20:53:58 <gammafunk> replace the line you see there in green with the one you see there in red
20:54:14 <gammafunk> as that will revert the reminder
20:54:19 <gammafunk> of course you also need to recompile crawl
20:54:47 <gammafunk> by "see there in green" I mean in the diff in that link above
21:04:43 <alexjurkiewicz> ebering: is the nemelex max deck size explained anywhere?
21:04:48 <alexjurkiewicz> confusing now that destruction can be twice the size
21:09:22 <MikeHollis> ty so much
21:09:27 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
21:09:31 <Napkin> great, gammafunk :)
21:17:14 <ebering> alexjurkiewicz: in the ability description I thin
21:19:46 <MikeHollis> if someone just flat out closes the window, then goes back in it should pick up where they left off correct?
21:20:53 <MikeHollis> I've actually got crawl running embedded in a lightbox on a wordpress site, and I'm asking to see if I need to do any kind of special handling to save if they just flat out close the iframe
21:21:13 <MikeHollis> at first glance it seems to work just fine, as long as there arn't any wierd special circumstances
21:26:29 <Lasty> gammafunk: I have a critical update: I enjoyed my first gauntlet.
21:26:39 <Lasty> oh hey, there's still a minotaur
21:27:37 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
21:28:28 <Lasty> oops, it killed me
21:30:05 <gammafunk> !nick mike mdonais
21:30:24 <Sequell> Mapping mike => mdonais
21:30:47 <gammafunk> Lasty: haha
21:31:07 <gammafunk> Lasty: and it was what we've been affectionately calling "Lasty minotaur", too!
21:31:40 <gammafunk> after you made that change, various prominent crawl players were declaring that no one would ever go in labs ever again
21:31:57 <gammafunk> in a way they were right, since we removed labs
21:32:41 <gammafunk> Lasty: yeah, the minotaur exit vaults are preserved with some adjustments; we thought about varying what kind of "boss" you fight
21:33:38 <gammafunk> the mino is still quite nasty, and I took care to generally not put anything in the gauntlet worse than the mino, although for some of the rarer monsters that's debatable
21:42:14 <MikeHollis> is there a dgl command to force a recompile? I did it manually, but it didn't seem to get rid of the tourney message,
21:42:37 <MikeHollis> and I'm not 100% sure that it did everything it was supposed to
21:42:47 <gammafunk> hrm
21:52:49 <gammafunk> MikeHollis: you might need to make clean from in the repo
21:56:24 <MikeHollis> I did a make clean from the source directory, which didn't actually force the recompile, which I was a bit surprised about
21:57:06 <MikeHollis> I mean afterwards it didn't force the recompile when I ran dgl publish
21:57:25 <MikeHollis> does the compile happen at a different point?
22:04:44 <MikeHollis> I edited the build scripts so it fails the version compare temporarily
22:08:05 <alexjurkiewicz> gammafunk: how do you feel about the new orb run spawn rate?
22:08:25 <alexjurkiewicz> it feels a bit low after two real runs (eg rather than testing)
22:16:48 <MikeHollis> ok now it's working, just needed to get dgl to fail the version check so it did it correctly rather than me doing it wit
22:17:00 <MikeHollis> with a partial understanding, all good now thanks for everything
22:20:18 <ebering> alexjurkiewicz: I think it's in a pretty good place
22:20:54 <ebering> I think you just got a bit lucky
22:31:49 -!- CaptainFruitcake is now known as CanOfWorms
22:49:40 <gammafunk> alexjurkiewicz: yeah you certainly can still get a relatively painless orb run, but it felt alright in my local test play and in my one ascension so far with it
23:09:27 <rchandra> clouds have changed I see.  is it still possible to alter them?  ○ looks a lot like o
23:09:35 <rchandra> ??Rcfile
23:09:35 <Sequell> rcfile[1/4]: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/docs/options_guide.txt
23:10:36 <rchandra> ah, I see.  good to see the docs updated :)
23:27:42 <alexjurkiewicz> i wonder is some rng in crawl could move to prng a la dota2
23:28:41 <ebering> rchandra: yes, using the display_chars cloud, cloud_weak, cloud_fading, and cloud_terminal
23:47:35 <rchandra> ☺ ¤ ♨ °
23:50:41 <gammafunk> forbidden: %
23:52:05 <floraline> there's a bitcoin ad in the clan list
23:52:35 <rchandra> % is food including dcobs
23:53:52 <floraline> is that a legitimate player?
23:54:08 <ebering> unfortunately yes
23:58:12 <floraline> it feels like that should be against the rules
23:58:52 <Cheibriados> Certain closed translucent vaults do not allow resumption of autoexplore 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11867 by thmsdrew