00:26:27 <Eksell> Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.23-a0-488-g5fd82c5 (34)
01:17:07 <twelwe> who changed walljump to an activated ability and why??
01:19:50 <ebering> %git b49dddc8044
01:19:50 <Cheibriados> 07advil02 * 0.23-a0-326-gb49dddc: Default `wall_jump_move` to false 10(7 weeks ago, 3 files, 4+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b49dddc8044b
01:20:05 <ebering> you can still set an option if you want it the other way
01:20:21 <twelwe> ok so i just rc file it away?
01:20:27 <ebering> yep
01:20:28 <twelwe> wall_jump_move = true
01:20:28 <twelwe> ??
01:20:32 <ebering> exactly
01:20:40 <twelwe> i want to hug and kiss you
01:20:50 <ebering> just release pizza tornado
01:20:54 <ebering> :)
01:21:09 <twelwe> patch noted for 2019 coming
01:21:56 <ebering> can't wait
01:21:56 <twelwe> PF and i almost had a build that renamed every monster but it messed with vaults so badly that it couldnt be done
01:22:18 <ebering> I remember! you and PF roped me in to trying to fix it too
01:22:53 <twelwe> there were some really dated jokes in there too
01:22:59 <twelwe> like renaming orange demon to John Boehner
01:23:19 <ebering> that's classic
01:23:21 <twelwe> i bet the google doc is still around somewhere
01:25:38 <twelwe> spliff muna lol
01:27:56 <Gretell> Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.23-a0-488-g5fd82c5 (34)
01:31:03 <twelwe> now before i ruin this formicid, does swiftness affect walljump?
01:34:14 <ebering> yes
01:39:44 <twelwe> longblade formicids of wu are so wild. its just a different game. you can dig, lunge stab, whirlwind and riposte all in the same turn
01:40:30 <twelwe> now swiftness walljumping is just like the original one turn walljump
01:59:10 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.23-a0-488-g5fd82c5
03:00:09 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.23-a0-488-g5fd82c5
04:40:17 <NP7> I don't know if you're already aware of problems but I can't access footv atm
04:40:33 <NP7> is it down for maintenance or something?
07:21:45 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.23-a0-489-g205b0b6: Fix a potion loot definition 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/205b0b61aec2
07:32:16 <Kelbell> Unstable branch on crawl.kelbi.org updated to: 0.23-a0-489-g205b0b61ae (34)
07:36:21 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07[labrework] * 0.23-a0-497-g79cd751: Fix a Lab arena exit subvault and template 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/79cd75176568
07:36:21 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07[labrework] * 0.23-a0-498-gdf6a5a1: Fix Lab arena subvault item creation 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/df6a5a11828a
07:36:21 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07[labrework] * 0.23-a0-499-g69572ee: Some adjustments for Lab arena subvaults 10(7 hours ago, 1 file, 61+ 57-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/69572ee0fc3d
07:36:21 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07[labrework] * 0.23-a0-500-g8b881e4: Fix and clean up some Lab arena monster entries 10(5 hours ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8b881e4cff19
07:36:21 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07[labrework] * 0.23-a0-501-g92fd3fe: Some balance adjustments to Lab arena monsters 10(5 hours ago, 1 file, 28+ 15-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/92fd3fe5e549
07:36:21 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07[labrework] * 0.23-a0-502-g80160d7: Add ice statue and oklob plant Lab arena monster sets 10(5 hours ago, 1 file, 6+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/80160d7ba848
07:36:21 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07[labrework] * 0.23-a0-506-gf0caa45: Merge branch 'master' into labrework 10(14 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f0caa457ee60
08:10:40 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.23-a0-489-g205b0b61ae (34)
09:20:34 <travis-ci> The build is still failing. (labrework - f0caa45 #10660 : gammafunk): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/462156797
12:22:40 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.23-a0-489-g205b0b6 (34)
13:10:42 <ebering> dang just learned about git stash --patch
13:32:01 <Cheibriados> God menu problem 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11774 by Busket
14:41:21 <ebering> greensnark: I believe I ping you if footv is down? telnet to termcast.shalott.org is dropping connections
15:30:17 -!- aidanh_ is now known as aidanh
16:01:00 <minmay> there's a problem with how streaks are calculated in scoring. if you look at http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/minmay.html my streak table thinks the kelbi griefing game was played after the gnsk and others
16:01:01 <minmay> but as you can see from the recent games table it was done before the gnsk
16:01:45 <twelwe> thats NOT. RIGHT.
16:01:58 <minmay> from looking at the code i *think* streaks are the only thing that has this artifact
16:02:31 <minmay> but now it makes me wonder if legitimate cross-server streaks are going to get messed up by the order in which servers get scraped for new games, or whatever
16:09:25 <Lantell> sentinel (L21 VpEn) ASSERT(!invalid_monster(&mons)) in 'mon-death.cc' at line 1900 failed. (Depths:2)
16:12:15 <floraline> minmay: yeah that's weird, it says streak ended on 11-29 but the streak breaker was played on 11-23?
16:17:03 <minmay> it works by appending or breaking the streak when the game is added, it ignores the time that the game was actually played
16:17:13 <minmay> which works fine if games are added in the order they are played
16:17:16 <minmay> which they aren't
16:21:55 <switch__> procedural code lUL
16:22:18 <switch__> use cases = 1
16:25:04 <ebering> aidanh: when defining a ToggleableMenu is there a way to get it to assign letters automatically?
17:43:12 <minmay> Come to think of it, the way sequell and cao calculate streaks should probably be the same
17:54:34 <Yermak> Since we're talking about streaks, it would be cool to change streak rules to those in the tourney: the next game of streak is the one that was started immediately after the win, and not any other.
17:54:59 <switch__> it sounds a lot like every concern thus far has been "why isn't this in chronological order"
17:55:11 <Yermak> I'm on a streak now and I'd like to play a non-streak game, which is impossible with current rules.
17:55:13 <switch__> equivalent to*
17:57:32 <Cheibriados> heal other bug 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11775 by gishou
18:03:45 <minmay> yeah neither streak implementation deals gracefully with concurrent games at all
18:15:36 <grey__> im trying to set up an installer zip for a friend to fuck around w some bullshit i hacked in
18:16:47 <grey__> somehow i have two tarballs and no zip file (been using guide.txt) and im really confused about whether im doing it right and what i do next
18:17:04 <switch__> what operating system?
18:18:05 <grey__> windows 10
18:18:19 <grey__> altho im currently on an old macbook rn
18:19:04 <grey__> i was using the desktop to do it tho, to head off misapprehensions
18:21:53 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-489-g205b0b61ae (34)
18:24:23 <grey__> did i do it wrong and need the zip file, do i just need to zip up one of the tarballs, whats my course of action here
18:25:14 <switch__> i don't really understand what you're trying to do
18:26:52 <switch__> there also isn't a "guide.txt" as far as i'm aware
18:27:09 <gammafunk> grey__: you would need to build the target package-windows or package-windows-zips
18:27:54 <gammafunk> So: build with the command "make package-windows"
18:28:14 <gammafunk> alternately you could just zip up a copy of the directory with your locally compiled version
18:28:42 <minmay> !vault bobbens_dragon_lair_wall
18:28:43 <gammafunk> I assume you've made code changes and are compiling these locally
18:28:43 <Sequell> 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/lair.des#L1935
18:28:54 <grey__> yeah gammafunk
18:29:00 <minmay> so when fire drakes got changed to rime drakes and mottled dragons got changed to acid dragons
18:29:03 <minmay> this vault got a little strange
18:29:15 <grey__> im p sure i used make package-windows
18:29:42 <gammafunk> right, so those targets I gave will make the installer exe (package-windows) or zip that can just be uncompressed (package-windows-zips)
18:29:42 <gammafunk> well, if you've done that, the installer will be an exe in your source dir
18:29:50 <gammafunk> likewise you'll have two zip files in the source dir if you did package-windows-zips
18:30:09 <grey__> what do you mean by targets
18:30:23 <gammafunk> an argument to the 'make' command you use to build crawl
18:30:31 <grey__> full disclosure im a moron who cant retain coding knowledge and i just bumble through this shit
18:30:44 <gammafunk> to create them you run the command 'make package-windows' from your source directory
18:30:56 <gammafunk> it will create the installer as an exe file in your source directory
18:30:58 <floraline> grey__: bumbling through is the best way to do it :)
18:31:22 <grey__> oh its in a different folder from the tarballs? theyre in /crawl iirc
18:31:50 <gammafunk> I'm not sure what "the tarballs" refers to here. Your source tarballs?
18:32:15 <grey__> let me get up and get on the desktop
18:32:19 <switch__> grey__, how are you compiling crawl?
18:32:30 <gammafunk> The installer file generated has a name like stone_soup-0.23-a-win32-installer.exe
18:32:46 <gammafunk> I'm not sure what the exact name is if you're building trunk
18:32:52 <grey__> mostly through msys2 or w/e its called on windows
18:32:58 <grey__> erm, on mac
18:33:04 <gammafunk> ah
18:33:08 <gammafunk> you need to make a mac build?
18:33:13 <grey__> nah
18:33:22 <gammafunk> a windows build but built from your mac?
18:33:35 <grey__> a windows build built from a desktop pc
18:33:56 <gammafunk> ok, so you're on windows, building for windows and using msys2
18:34:03 <grey__> aye
18:34:06 <gammafunk> so what command have you been using to compile?
18:35:00 <gammafunk> actually, it may be that building the installers is just not supported natively from windows; maybe the zips would work though
18:35:02 <gammafunk> but yeah, I need to be clear on how you've been compiling crawl thus far
18:35:12 <grey__> for just compiling for myself ive been using the stuff in install.txt
18:35:20 <grey__> so uh
18:35:44 <grey__> make TILES=y i guess
18:36:08 <gammafunk> right
18:36:13 <gammafunk> so try running instead
18:36:16 <grey__> when i say i cant retain this stuff im just barely hyperbolizing im a sieve lmao
18:36:24 <gammafunk> make package-windows-zip
18:36:29 <grey__> okay
18:36:38 <gammafunk> that will try to build a zip you can give out for both tiles and console
18:36:49 <grey__> ill try that then, thanks
18:36:55 <switch__> (TILES is a target, in this example. you want a different one, which gamma gave you)
18:37:00 <gammafunk> those will end up in that same source directory where you have run the "make TILES=y" command in the past
18:37:10 <grey__> oh yeah i was using make package-windows for this
18:37:18 <grey__> tiles was just for testing
18:37:19 <gammafunk> they'll have a name like stone_soup-STUFF.zip
18:37:21 <ebering> switch__: that's false. that's not how crawl's makefile works
18:37:36 <gammafunk> yes, tiles is not a target
18:37:41 <grey__> anyway ill try zip version
18:38:47 <switch__> oic, my mistake
18:42:57 <floraline> don't you need to indicate TILES=y still?
18:44:02 <gammafunk> no, those targets build both console and tiles
18:44:16 <gammafunk> which is sort of unfortunate if you only want one
18:44:23 <gammafunk> but that's how they're set up, since they're for a release
18:44:49 <gammafunk> the installer will install both versions, but with the zips it will make a tiles zip and a console zip
20:03:04 <grey__> yeah each time i try to use make package-windows-zip it tells me something about no rule to make target
20:05:19 <grey__> what does this mean and how do i rectify it
20:07:59 <grey__> hm
20:08:04 <grey__> lemme try something here
20:16:15 <advil> it's "package-windows-zips"
20:21:57 <grey__> aight
20:22:10 <grey__> i wish msys2 would let me copy-past into it lmao
20:33:04 <gammafunk> oh yeah, plural, "package-windows-zips", sorry
20:53:49 <gammafunk> advil: Something to look over when you have time: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/wiki/Labyrinth-Rework
20:53:58 <gammafunk> !seen MarvinPA
20:53:59 <Sequell> I last saw MarvinPA at Thu Nov 29 15:32:36 2018 UTC (2d 10h 21m 22s ago) quitting, saying 'Ping timeout: 246 seconds'.
20:54:02 <gammafunk> Lasty
20:54:06 <gammafunk> !seen Lasty
20:54:07 <Sequell> I last saw Lasty at Fri Aug 24 02:14:12 2018 UTC (14w 1d 23h 39m 54s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: Leaving.'.
20:54:29 <gammafunk> ...when shall the hero return
20:54:47 <gammafunk> !tell MarvinPA Would appreciate some feedback on https://github.com/crawl/crawl/wiki/Labyrinth-Rework when you have a chance
20:54:48 <Sequell> gammafunk: OK, I'll let marvinpa know.
20:54:57 <gammafunk> !seen elliptic
20:54:57 <Sequell> I last saw elliptic at Fri Nov 16 19:03:48 2018 UTC (2w 1d 6h 51m 8s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: Leaving'.
20:55:08 <gammafunk> wow it's like people are gone for the holidays or something!
20:55:49 <gammafunk> Any other dev that's around is welcome to give comments on that page if they wish, of course
20:56:16 <gammafunk> I didn't really talk about any technical issues like save compat, but there's not too much to worry about there
21:07:05 <ebering> I put up a wiki page about some throwing work
21:07:16 <ebering> hoping that would tempt Lasty out from hiding :)
21:14:58 <gammafunk> ebering: put up something about making the game drastically harder
21:15:04 <gammafunk> that was always the Lasty dream
21:40:18 <floraline> can someone tell me if this graph is completely unreadable: https://crawl.kelbi.org/monitor/
21:43:10 <ebering> reasonably legiblew
21:43:28 <floraline> i put a second y axis on it and now it looks disgusting
21:47:50 <gammafunk> floraline: sometimes people put the second one on the other side, but I'm not sure it would look better
21:48:06 <gammafunk> I don't think it looks terrible or anything
21:48:14 <floraline> oh that's probably good, i'll see if i can do that
21:48:23 <floraline> i think the two y axes on the same side is not great
21:49:56 <gammafunk> well there's always the solution of just showing a separate graph for players
21:50:53 <gammafunk> as long as the graphs are well aligned vertically it's easy to match times between graphs
22:00:10 <floraline> i'm just going to stick it on the right side and be done with it
22:11:05 <gammafunk> looks pretty good
22:14:11 -!- THE_GIAGGOSTUONO is now known as eb
22:26:22 <floraline> thanks