00:00:08 <Eksell> Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.23-a0-408-g9d4b7ed (34)
00:08:58 <alexjurkiewicz> try changing the make command to `make TILES=1`
00:09:19 <alexjurkiewicz> even better: `make -j4 TILES=1` to build with 4 cores rather than 1
00:10:14 <alexjurkiewicz> I assume your OSX is reasonably recent?
00:18:17 <alexjurkiewicz> hm, I just tried to build tiles and it fails for me too
00:18:30 <alexjurkiewicz> looks like a bug with Mojave
00:18:45 <alexjurkiewicz> geekosaur: you are on osx right? can you build tiles with mojave?
00:19:14 <geekosaur> haven't been on os x in several years
00:48:49 <switch__> https://i.imgur.com/xwpGnwS.png
00:48:52 <switch__> those two monsters were asleep when I went down the stairs
00:49:00 <switch__> when I stepped on top of them they disappeared
00:50:25 <switch__> never seen that before
00:51:59 <switch__> when i went up and down the stairs they disappeared
01:32:06 <alexjurkiewicz> that's a desync bug, the monsters don't exist but the tiles js client thinks they do
01:32:25 <alexjurkiewicz> nobody is quite sure why it happens, but it happens sometimes when using stairs and especially when autotravelling
01:52:11 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.23-a0-409-g236c270: Better sanctuary removal for melee/ranged attacks 10(28 hours ago, 2 files, 20+ 18-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/236c2702d21e
01:52:11 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.23-a0-410-g15caca4: Don't prompt for the Arc Blade spell effect 10(11 hours ago, 3 files, 5+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/15caca4c0993
01:52:11 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.23-a0-411-g0eb21a9: Fix and simplify god conduct code 10(22 hours ago, 7 files, 49+ 93-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0eb21a9ae980
01:52:11 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.23-a0-412-g15b4f39: Centralize conducts for some player damage spells 10(11 hours ago, 1 file, 91+ 121-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/15b4f3947952
01:52:11 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.23-a0-413-g57a8110: Refactor LOS attack spell code 10(22 hours ago, 1 file, 16+ 31-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/57a811004ee2
01:53:13 <switch__> oh, you fixed the arc blade thing
01:53:14 <switch__> thanks
02:10:44 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.23-a0-413-g57a811004e (34)
02:18:24 <lobf> @alexjurkiewicz no luck for me
03:14:54 <Rotatell> Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.23-a0-413-g57a8110 (34)
03:17:15 <Cheibriados> Message ordering issues with wand enhancers 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11753 by CanOfWorms
03:27:50 <Cheibriados> Phantasmal warriors "reduce the MR" of MR immune monsters 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11754 by CanOfWorms
03:51:21 <bgiannan> so i found a hack to use termite for ssh play
03:51:29 <bgiannan> i just run it inside a tmux session
03:51:39 <bgiannan> which overrides the terminal info maybe
08:11:25 <advil> if os x is broken on mojave I will look at it eventually but I haven't yet upgraded any of my computers
09:03:06 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07* 0.23-a0-414-g0aa8dd0: Limit extra Ru ability info to followers (amalloy) 10(24 minutes ago, 3 files, 7+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0aa8dd0f38c3
10:10:43 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.23-a0-414-g0aa8dd0f38 (34)
12:10:50 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.23-a0-414-g0aa8dd0 (34)
15:20:38 <lobf> howdy
15:20:48 <lobf> anybody around?
15:23:19 <floraline> hi
15:23:48 <lobf> i've been trying to get some help compiling for OSX
15:24:00 <lobf> or macOS now I guess, whatever
15:24:14 <advil> lobf I have to go in 3 minutes, but are you trying to compile on mojave?
15:24:19 <lobf> yeah
15:24:20 <lobf> make APPLE_GCC=y NO_PKGCONFIG=y CONTRIB_SDL=y TILES=y
15:24:25 <lobf> gives me a black screen
15:24:46 <lobf> on Mojave
15:25:08 <advil> it should work fine (I develop on OS X) but I'm guessing there's some mojave-specific issue that on one but you has hit yet. I haven't ugpraded any of my computers (I usually wait several months)
15:25:15 <advil> *that no one but
15:25:29 <advil> *upgraded
15:25:51 <lobf> yeah, my work specific stuff worked fine and I wanted dark mode, so i went for it
15:26:13 <advil> my main computer is sierra at the moment, and my other computer is high sierra, so I know it works on those
15:26:22 <advil> are there any unusual errors or warnings?
15:26:27 <lobf> you used that same make command?
15:26:34 <lobf> and no, it compiled just like it did in the past
15:26:46 <lobf> i didn't notice any errors
15:26:47 <advil> was this tiles?
15:26:52 <lobf> (at least that aren't always there)
15:26:55 <advil> there may be something in the sdl part that'd be hard to spot
15:27:16 <advil> oh yes it says in the build command
15:27:28 <lobf> well if you've compiled on a mac, you'll know that like 1/5 of the feedback you get while it compiles is a warning of some sort, heh
15:27:40 <advil> yeah, that's why I mean it might be hard to spot
15:27:43 <lobf> right
15:27:55 <advil> I haven't used that exact command but most of that is default (not sure about APPLE_GCC)
15:28:00 <lobf> sorry, what are you referring to re: sdl build?
15:28:17 <lobf> i pulled that make command from here
15:28:17 <lobf> https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=8462&p=114701#p114701
15:28:18 <advil> the first part of the build process will build the sdl version in contrib
15:28:30 <lobf> which is what i've followed to compile for years
15:28:40 <advil> yes, it should be fine
15:28:46 <advil> it is very close to how I build the release versions
15:28:50 <lobf> welp, black screen :(
15:29:14 <advil> if you can do a make clean, build, and pastebin the entire output, I can look at it later today
15:29:30 <lobf> okay sure
15:29:44 <lobf> i'm not nearly as literate in this stuff as I may be implying
15:30:04 <lobf> I'm going to redownload the whole thing, and recompile and send it to ya
15:30:10 <lobf> how should I send to you?
17:14:10 <switch__> lobf pastebin.com
18:21:18 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-414-g0aa8dd0f38 (34)
18:47:29 <gammafunk> ^status
19:01:20 <advil> lobf: I just found https://discourse.libsdl.org/t/macos-10-14-mojave-issues/25060. Can you try moving or resizing the crawl window to see if it's the same issue?
19:01:35 <lobf> sure
19:01:42 <advil> also, have you tried any of the release versions?
19:02:01 <advil> I wonder if it's just versions compiled on mojave
19:02:01 <lobf> ha wow
19:02:01 <lobf> i moved the window
19:02:05 <lobf> and everything is working
19:02:08 <advil> haha ok
19:02:09 <floraline> lol
19:02:14 <advil> well, I guess it's that same issue
19:02:18 <lobf> man oh man
19:02:22 <advil> seems to be general to all of sdl2
19:02:22 <lobf> how funny
19:02:28 <floraline> that is funny
19:02:45 <lobf> i've been staring at a black window for 2 days, and all i had to do was move it one pixel
19:02:51 <advil> heh
19:02:58 <floraline> aren't those really the best bugs though?
19:03:03 <lobf> indeed
19:03:07 <lobf> easiest fix at least :P
19:03:12 <lobf> well, correction
19:03:31 <floraline> i just spent half a day at work helping a coworker debug what turned out to be a minor typo
19:04:00 <lobf> hahaha
19:04:01 <lobf> good times
19:04:24 <lobf> well thanks a bunch for your help, advil
19:04:39 <lobf> i appreciate you taking the time to look in to that for me
19:04:49 <advil> no problem...still not sure what the real solution is, doesn't look like sdl2 has a fix yet
19:05:41 <lobf> yeah that's fine, this is easy enough to deal with
19:08:17 <advil> well, maybe there's a fix, sdl issue here: https://bugzilla.libsdl.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4272
19:09:44 <advil> or possibly https://bugzilla.libsdl.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4329
19:09:54 <advil> which is unfortunately marked as wontfix and classified as a mojave bug
19:32:00 <alexjurkiewicz> advil: ha fix works here too
19:32:20 <advil> moving the window?
19:32:56 <alexjurkiewicz> yeah
19:33:27 <alexjurkiewicz> let me try the code workaround in that discourse link
19:33:48 <advil> the sdl pump event thing?
19:33:48 <advil> I was about to just push that
19:34:31 <alexjurkiewicz> yep, works!
19:38:18 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.23-a0-415-g4fac8996: Potential fix for Mojave black screen issues 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4fac89966508
19:39:22 <alexjurkiewicz> should they be wrapped in an #ifdef OSX?
19:39:38 <advil> I'm pretty sure it's a harmless thing to do there
19:40:31 <advil> I did test it on my earlier version of os x and it didn't have any impact
19:41:15 <alexjurkiewicz> good fix then
19:46:48 <advil> there might be other mojave issues, judging from recent discourse topics
19:47:02 <advil> I don't know how you all can stand to upgrade so early ;-)
19:50:53 <alexjurkiewicz> it makes the upgrade notification stop popping up daily :D
19:56:24 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.23-a0-416-g33f1def: Remove a vault that breaks autoexplore (minmay) 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/33f1def9c605
20:07:25 <alexjurkiewicz> aw, couldn't just mark the shaft trap as known?
20:08:06 <gammafunk> how would that help? then the vault is simply pointless
20:08:36 <gammafunk> it's a very tiny and quick vault, perfectly fine to remove it if the concept doesn't work
20:10:51 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.23-a0-416-g33f1def9c6 (34)
20:14:39 <Reeces> !nick zilis willster22 moby
20:14:40 <Sequell> Mapping zilis => willster22 moby
20:33:11 <floraline> it's a shame that vault had to be removed, it's a cool concept
20:34:07 <gammafunk> autoexplore traps are things we don't like in vaults
20:34:35 <gammafunk> and I think autoexplore trap is basically the concept of that one
21:27:29 <switch__> how do we feel about the fighter and archer tags on monsters
21:29:29 <alexjurkiewicz> archer is nice because it allows tactics against ranged monsters of standing next to them, which is often an interesting choice
21:29:58 <switch__> what?
21:36:45 <alexjurkiewicz> the archer tag
21:36:53 <alexjurkiewicz> prevents monsters swapping away from ranged weapon when you are next to them
21:37:54 <floraline> has any servers turned on pasword resets yet?
21:37:56 <gammafunk> that's not what archer tag does, you're thinking of what the monster command reports as "master archer"
21:38:16 <gammafunk> @?merfolk javelineer
21:38:16 <Gretell> merfolk javelineer (00m) | Spd: 10 (swim: 60%) | HD: 13 | HP: 67-90 | AC/EV: 3/14 | Dam: 17 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, master archer, amphibious | Res: 06magic(60), 12drown | XP: 1128 | Sz: Medium | Int: human.
21:38:19 <gammafunk> vs
21:38:24 <gammafunk> @?centaur
21:38:25 <Gretell> centaur (07c) | Spd: 15 | HD: 4 | HP: 18-25 | AC/EV: 3/7 | Dam: 10 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, archer | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 112 | Sz: Large | Int: human.
21:39:00 <switch__> it seems like the tags are supposed to add to-hit and some damage, though only archer actually adds damage
21:39:07 <gammafunk> master archer is actually just a distinct "don't ever swap your ranged weapon" flag that has a different name and is paired with archer on monsters like mf javelineers and de master archers
21:39:34 <switch__> it came up in conversation that it's possible for monsters to do more damage than expected (ie. more than their max damage) because of the fighter tag, but that doesn't seem to be true. it might be true for archer, i'm not sure
21:39:39 <switch__> but the tags seems strange
21:39:47 <switch__> why aren't those stats just rolled into the monster?
21:40:57 <switch__> (or, if they're wanted, some kind of in-game reference to the fact that they exist)
21:55:52 <gammafunk> floraline: don't think so, we've probably not told them about it
21:56:00 <gammafunk> re enabling password resets
21:58:10 <alexjurkiewicz> someone just had this crash on cpo https://crawl.project357.org/morgue/Raine357/crash-Raine357-20181109-025236.txt
21:58:28 <alexjurkiewicz> gdb not working since i moved server, so good luck! :D
22:02:55 <ebering> oof. segfault in process_key
22:03:20 <ebering> alexjurkiewicz: can you make a save backup and find out what they were doing?
22:03:46 <ebering> oh it was in the help menu
22:03:48 <ebering> hm
22:31:01 <advil> that's really in formatted_scroll::process_key, which doesn't have a lot for a segfault to draw on
22:33:26 <advil> oh nm this class overrides process_key
22:37:06 <advil> and there's a lot of static stuff in here which might not really show in the call stack without gdb
22:42:37 <alexjurkiewicz> i've asked for any specifics, and i'll see if we can repro and get a backup. They've progressed past that level now
23:22:16 <alexjurkiewicz> yep
23:22:19 <alexjurkiewicz> I did char dump
23:22:21 <alexjurkiewicz> the I remember "oh shit I remember in the latest ultra vid he did ? -> # and you can look at your dump that way"
23:22:23 <alexjurkiewicz> so I did ? -> # and it crashed
23:22:25 <alexjurkiewicz> tl;dr it's ultra fault
23:22:48 <alexjurkiewicz> that's from Raine
23:27:30 <alexjurkiewicz> he was using summon lightning spire and had just picked up a rune. Can't replicate