00:10:53 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.23-a0-241-g3b46b076a4 (34)
01:29:53 <Yermak> Players in wisp form not being insubstantial - bug or again some form of intentional player-monster asymmetry?
01:48:21 <gammafunk> doubt that's intentional Yermak
01:48:46 <gammafunk> that form goes out of its way to set monster holiness to nonliving even
01:49:18 <gammafunk> probably the concept of insubstantial player didn't exist when that form was added
01:49:25 <gammafunk> and no one bothered to add it
02:06:23 <Rast2> !blame @devs
02:06:23 <Sequell> I pronounce @devs... Guilty!
02:39:00 <Cheibriados> Fedhas' mushrooms freeze when they see monsters in ghosts vaults 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11696 by kitchen_ace
02:47:06 <Rast2> "mostly confused players into thinking there was a problem with the vault generation."
02:47:12 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.23-a0-241-g3b46b07
02:47:24 <Rast2> im not sure if "confused" is the right word
03:11:53 <Rotatell> Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.23-a0-241-g3b46b07 (34)
13:24:46 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.23-a0-241-g3b46b07 (34)
13:54:27 <ebering> gammafunk: re Morg. I like scarabs over miasma
13:55:45 <ebering> elemental themed unrands already do a lot of clouds
13:56:00 <ebering> only zonguldruk raises undead
18:20:48 <Kramin> scarabs sounds strong
18:21:21 <Kramin> and much more fun than miasma
18:22:08 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-241-g3b46b076a4 (34)
19:03:52 <alexjurkiewicz> scale scarab numbers on monster HD. Like you get HD/20 chance rolled three times for up to three scarabs
19:39:04 <gammafunk> well compared to clouds, there are more unrands that summon
19:39:33 <gammafunk> and there are two necromancy themed unrands that create allies already
19:39:50 <gammafunk> morg generating miasma and giving miasma immunity certainly would work
19:41:24 <gammafunk> creating scarabs can work too, but you have to find a formula for making them that isn't nuts, since they're really strong
19:41:39 <gammafunk> and yeah, it'd be even more ally-making unrands
19:43:14 <Kramin> is this supposed to be miasma on kill or on attack?
19:43:21 <Kramin> on kill would be fairly useless
19:47:17 <gammafunk> I'll leave that as an exercise to the reader
19:47:25 <gammafunk> (hint: look at frostbite)
19:55:25 <Kramin> well for scarabs on kill would make more sense, but for clouds on attack
19:55:49 <Kramin> with a random chance
19:56:52 <Kramin> scarabs on attack with a low% chance could work though
19:57:24 <Kramin> would be fairly unique
19:57:50 <ebering> it would be a dagger beetly zonguldruk
19:58:11 <ebering> miasma would be a dagger foul frostbite though so
20:13:44 <gammafunk> yeah, and both are fine conceptually, but making beetles has to be handled with a bit more care
20:16:42 <Kramin> ??morg
20:16:42 <Sequell> morg[1/1]: Many years ago it was the property of a powerful mage called Boris. He got lost in the Dungeon while seeking the Orb. +4 dagger {pain, MR+ Int+5}.
20:48:55 <Yermak> Make sure not to forget corner case with Ru and sac love.
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