00:00:36 <aidanh> it's not a problem of a lack of input; it's that during autotravel, crawl has to do a lot of processing, and the ui will not be updated until that's finished
00:02:31 <aidanh> part of the vision for the ui-overhaul was to move all of the UI stuff to a tree of objects that can be rendered by a ui thread and manipulated by a simulation thread; that's part of the reason for using shared_ptr
00:10:47 <Naruni> Honestly, I don't know how to help with that one.  Funny how this dev stuff goes, something seems like a good idea then BAM can o' worms
00:32:39 <aidanh> pretty much
00:33:10 <aidanh> thatll be fixed, but it'll take a while
00:33:34 <aidanh> it'd probably be relatively straightforward to do something just for the loading screen though
01:25:52 <alexjurkiewicz> http://www.ultraviolent4.com/img/Menu%20Quaff.png
01:26:03 <alexjurkiewicz> it would be cool if default rc was this colourful
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02:10:29 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.23-a0-144-ge4bf05c: Fix monster spell ranges for certain spells and refactor 10(8 hours ago, 3 files, 8+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e4bf05c952a1
02:10:29 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.23-a0-145-g12c6407: Make a function non-static and reorder its arguments 10(8 hours ago, 2 files, 20+ 20-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/12c6407db4ea
02:10:29 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.23-a0-146-gb865740: Rework the Grasping Roots ability of Shambling Mangroves 10(8 hours ago, 18 files, 152+ 212-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b865740ec8dc
02:10:29 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.23-a0-147-g7935be9: Give Jorgrun the Grasping Roots spell 10(8 hours ago, 2 files, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7935be99ecd3
02:48:17 <alexjurkiewicz> awesome
02:48:25 <alexjurkiewicz> can you blink or teleport out of roots?
02:52:37 <gammafunk> it's same rules as constriction currently has
03:10:18 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.23-a0-147-g7935be99ec (34)
03:24:01 <Rotatell> Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.23-a0-147-g7935be9 (34)
03:44:50 <hayenne> Formicid's dig ability cost is shown as "instant" but it clearly costs hunger
04:32:57 <hayenne> ?? demonic guardian
04:32:58 <Sequell> demonic guardian[1/5]: DS mutation, summons demons temporarily, based on {tension}. Dismisses demons when tension is low but will continue to summon demons until the tension is closer to equal.
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06:35:10 <aidanh> hayenne: thanks for letting us know; in general it's probably better to open a bug report for things like that though
06:35:53 <hayenne> sure, will do. I only posted here to ascertain I was not mistaken about something
06:36:19 <aidanh> it's easy for things to go unnoticed otherwise
06:36:25 <aidanh> sure, no worries; I'll have a look at that soon
06:41:37 <Cheibriados> Formicid's dig ability cost does not display hunger 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11668 by hayenne
09:56:53 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07* 0.23-a0-148-g2abc2a7: Add tile for grasping roots monster spell 10(22 seconds ago, 3 files, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2abc2a7c7268
10:10:28 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.23-a0-148-g2abc2a7c72 (34)
10:10:36 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07* 0.23-a0-149-g21b9829: Fix misaligned aptitude table highlighting (#11662, falconhit) 10(60 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/21b9829214de
10:10:36 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07* 0.23-a0-150-g7664ed7: Remove debugging console.log() calls 10(44 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7664ed78f7d7
11:10:23 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.23-a0-150-g7664ed78f7 (34)
13:03:41 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
13:27:12 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.23-a0-150-g7664ed7 (34)
14:43:32 <ebering> https://twitter.com/mcclure111/status/1037178950584172545
14:43:41 <ebering> i tried this in the crawl codebase and all i got were anti-bees
14:56:57 <Cheibriados> New branch created: travis-cc (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/travis-cc
14:56:57 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[travis-cc] * 0.23-a0-144-gc4028e3: Attempt to add cross-compiling to travis 10(56 seconds ago, 3 files, 13+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c4028e35e6ca
14:59:02 <gammafunk> advil: that won't introduce problems with the build timing out?
14:59:26 <advil> I have no idea what it will do tbh
14:59:27 <gammafunk> I thought that given all the tests that we run, a slower build is likely to fail; maybe cross-compilation isn't that slow
14:59:52 <advil> I thought it was worth trying at least (though notice it's in a branch)
15:00:13 <advil> since it'll tell us a bit faster if the nightly builds are going to fail because of something we did, or if they just stopped working randomly
15:00:28 <gammafunk> Yeah I was more wondering if you had a way to address that or if it was still an issue
15:00:44 <gammafunk> we used to have frequent problems with failed travis builds due to the tests taking too long
15:01:36 <advil> if it is too slow then it's probably not worth merging, could just leave it as a branch to occasionally merge master into
15:01:50 <advil> but we'll see what it does
15:02:15 <advil> tbh I don't even know if I set it up right, I've never cross-compiled anything myself :)
15:03:13 <gammafunk> hrm
15:03:23 <gammafunk> it's also a combined build
15:03:26 <gammafunk> since you're making the package
15:03:43 <gammafunk> do we have any builds that try to make console+tiles in one build?
15:03:48 <gammafunk> seems like that for sure might time out
15:04:17 <gammafunk> we might want to not make the package, but actually add two cross-compiled builds, one for tiles and one for console
15:07:31 <advil> probably, but I'm starting from the instructions in the release guide
15:08:01 <advil> I'm not sure what the timing out issue is? that seems like something that happened before I've been around
15:08:34 <advil> it looks like there's a timeout if no output is received for 10 minutes, which shouldn't be a problem here
15:09:32 <advil> they don't say what the global timeout is
15:10:41 <advil> global timeout of 50 minutes in 2015
15:11:19 <gammafunk> ah, ok
15:11:25 <gammafunk> it's probably something specific to make test then
15:11:35 <advil> yeah, in the past many of the tests had no output at all
15:12:04 <advil> many still do, but some of the tests I've added do print something from time to time, so it's a bit more mixed now
15:12:47 <gammafunk> well having the package as part of the build is probably the best way then
15:12:59 <gammafunk> technically we could also have the zips but I don't think that's going to add much
15:13:09 <advil> did the apt-get line in that commit look right to you?
15:13:37 <gammafunk> hrm, what distro is travis using?
15:13:42 <advil> heh no idea
15:13:42 <gammafunk> is this debian stable?
15:14:27 <gammafunk> not actually sure what mingw packages I have installed
15:14:27 <advil> I really should have temporarily disabled all the other builds, that one is last so it'll be a while before it gets to it
15:15:36 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[travis-cc] * 0.23-a0-145-gcbc3b47: Temporarily disable most builds for testing 10(60 seconds ago, 1 file, 10+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cbc3b47e4304
15:17:43 <travis-ci> The build failed. (travis-cc - cbc3b47 #10235 : advil): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/425417108
15:18:11 <gammafunk> hrm, you don't got g++
15:21:14 <advil> hm yeah there's a bunch of packages I need to add
15:22:20 <gammafunk> we're running sudo-based? travis says that we either have ubuntu precise 12.04 or trusty 14.04
15:22:31 <gammafunk> ah yeah we have trusty
15:22:43 <gammafunk> looks like the packages for mingw have changed a bit since then
15:24:28 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[travis-cc] * 0.23-a0-146-g7e70e83: More packages 10(32 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7e70e8317088
15:26:57 <advil> hm
15:27:12 <advil> well, I'll work on this later, maybe better to do it in my own repo so I don't spam everyone
18:20:59 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.23-a0-150-g7664ed78f7 (34)
18:43:49 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[travis-cc] * 0.23-a0-147-ge53477e: Use submodules 10(30 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e53477eacf30
18:44:07 <advil> huh
18:44:28 <advil> apparently I set the remote to upstream
18:46:03 <advil> I didn't even know you could do that
18:46:11 <alexjurkiewicz> travis shouldn't time out because you add cross-compile, the only limits are per-job
18:47:48 <advil> there's apparently a global limit, that's not very clearly specified
18:49:52 <advil> though I doubt we'll hit it yet
18:50:38 <gammafunk> yeah, the limit I was talking about in the past apparently was just the output timeout anyhow
18:50:46 <gammafunk> which wouldn't be relevant for cross-compilation
18:50:57 <gammafunk> is this the first travis build that's using submodules?
18:51:16 <gammafunk> we normally wouldn't have a reason to build those in travis I assume
18:52:35 <advil> it looks like BUILD_ALL ones use them
18:52:49 <gammafunk> oh, I see
18:53:35 <gammafunk> hrm, so follow-up question, do the usual tests run for the cross-compiled build?
18:54:23 <gammafunk> guess it builds one after another, so even if it could run, you'd only get test results for whichever binary was built second
18:54:23 <advil> no, it won't have any way to run the executable
18:54:26 <gammafunk> ah, true
18:54:32 <gammafunk> we'd actually have to run it through wine
18:54:39 <gammafunk> which doesn't even work for console
18:54:47 <advil> yeah, I think that is possible in principle, I found some other projects that were doing it
18:54:58 <advil> wesnoth
18:55:03 <gammafunk> interesting
18:55:03 <advil> iirc
18:59:39 <advil> hmm, I wonder if there would be a way to upload these packages somewhere from travis
19:02:46 <advil> do the nightly builds on travis rather than wherever they are done now
19:02:53 <advil> ??gretell
19:02:53 <Sequell> Gretell[1/1]: The {CDO} announcement bot, which uses @ as a prefix. Also responds to @?? monster info queries.
19:02:57 <advil> CDO I guess
19:03:31 <advil> gammafunk btw I don't know if you saw but I was inspired to do this because the windows nightly builds are having problems again
19:03:45 <advil> not sure if it's actually a compilation problem this time
19:05:19 <gammafunk> to make them available for download?
19:05:19 <gammafunk> I was sort of assuming projects did something like that to get regular builds
19:05:36 <advil> yeah
19:05:51 <gammafunk> are the builds actually failing, or is the page simply not getting updated?
19:06:25 <travis-ci> The build is still failing. (travis-cc - e53477e #10237 : advil): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/425494728
19:07:11 <advil> gammafunk not really sure, possibly both
19:07:20 <advil> the bot isn't announcing either
19:07:30 <advil> hm, looks like more missing packages
19:10:11 <gammafunk> looks like this is the latest: http://crawl.develz.org/trunk/crawl-0.23-a0-8-gb809bb7.zip
19:10:11 <advil> it did look like basically everything built successfully on travis, that failure was on generating the installer
19:10:23 <gammafunk> oh, you probably need the nsi package
19:10:26 <advil> yep
19:17:23 <alexjurkiewicz> nightly builds on travis is definitely possible. I've set that up at work recently
19:18:05 <alexjurkiewicz> a few npm packages build nightly and upload to npm registry too, so you could even have a "nightly" homebrew build for OSX users
19:19:42 <advil> alexjurkiewicz is there an easy way to get it to only happen once a day at most? I saw lots of examples of conditional uploading with this "on: " thing but none that did exactly that
19:20:06 <alexjurkiewicz> advil: in travis ci settings for the repo you can say "build (daily) for (master) branch"
19:23:28 <alexjurkiewicz> also, you can pass in encrypted passwords to travis, which is the other piece of the puzzle. They can be encrypted by a developer so that only Travis CI can decrypt them
20:03:10 <advil> well, that seems like something that would be useful to set up
20:03:30 <advil> for now I will be content if I get this working at all
20:03:46 <advil> but I think I've almost got it
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20:51:55 <Naruni> Hello crawl-dev
21:08:02 <Naruni> I was just playing around with Leda's Liquefaction.  I was thinking it might be a lot more useful to keep the radius large all the time, and have the amount of slow start high then decrease as the spell wears off.
21:08:44 <alexjurkiewicz> from a UI perspective, it is harder to communicate the amount of slow vs size of aoe
21:10:06 <Naruni> 'It is very slow in your Liquefaction' or bla bla in the info screen. Standard view, yes I agree it might be a chore to determine player communication
21:10:51 <Naruni> Perhaps a similar RMsl thingy where the pigment of the status indicates amount of slowness caused
21:11:42 <Naruni> I also noticed that in wizmode, all things capped to 27, the power did not go above 90 (at 21 INT).
21:13:30 <duckroller> Hi all, I'm trying to compile stone soup 22.0 on Centos 7 and I'm running into an error when I run make. Here's a pastebin of the output: https://pastebin.com/VD1mSQBJ Could anyone help me figure out what's wrong? I believe I have all the dependencies installed correctly.
21:13:32 <Naruni> But about the original idea, chaging the spell to be a constant radius (or maybe reducing the variety of the aura) and having spell power affect the amount of slow
21:14:33 <Naruni> duckroller, did you image your source from git?
21:15:21 <Naruni> this might also be a factor: make -C rltiles all ARCH=x86_64-redhat-linux TILES=
21:15:33 <duckroller> No, this is the source from https://crawl.develz.org/download.htm, the "Full source with dependencies"
21:15:56 <Naruni> try popping a 'y' on the end of that build command and see what happens
21:17:43 <duckroller> I'm not trying to install the tiles build (didn't ensure SDL dependencies were installed), but adding TILES=y to my make command gives me this different error:
21:18:05 <duckroller> https://pastebin.com/j5GC5NA8
21:19:26 <Naruni> yeah so that's dependency stuff.  If you don't want tiles make the 'y' a 'n'
21:20:58 <duckroller> as far as I can tell, leaving TILES= is equivalent to setting TILES=n; I tried to explicitly set TILES=n but I get the exact same error as the first pastebin
21:25:05 <alexjurkiewicz> duckroller: what version of GCC?
21:25:40 <Naruni> you're using CentOS? I'd try going the git route... It just worked for me from a clean install yesterday (barring a few package discrepancies, easily solved)
21:25:42 <duckroller> 4.4.7
21:25:49 <alexjurkiewicz> I googled "centos7 nullptr was not declared in this scope" and the first result from stackoverflow suggests gcc is old
21:26:18 <Naruni> alexjurkiewicz, yeah I'm using gcc 8.1.1
21:26:22 <alexjurkiewicz> The only officially supported compilers are gcc (4.7 or newer) and clang (3.4
21:26:25 <alexjurkiewicz> or newer). On Windows, gcc is usually available as MinGW.
21:26:52 <duckroller> I see. I'll look into updating gcc, thanks all
21:27:11 <alexjurkiewicz> might need to see if you can get a newer GCC from somewhere. I know that's painful on rhel though :(
21:27:34 <alexjurkiewicz> might be worth adding a version check to the Makefile for GCC
21:30:58 <Naruni> alexjurkiewicz, there's also some outdated info for required packages as far as fedora ges
21:31:14 <alexjurkiewicz> Naruni: outdated where?
21:31:14 <Naruni> I didn't know who to notify to make the changes
21:31:34 <Naruni> crawlf-ref/INSTALL.txt
21:31:59 <alexjurkiewicz> oh. You can make the changes yourself as a pull request
21:33:09 <Naruni> yeah... I haven't posted a change since umm 2016
21:33:54 <alexjurkiewicz> you can do it from the github web ui. Just browse to the file and click the edit icon in the top right of the file view
21:33:55 <Naruni> https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10448&nbn=6#bugnotes I think that was my last patch
21:34:53 <Naruni> oh heh look at that
21:39:57 <Naruni> OK so I made the save, now do I need to click the green 'Create pull request' button or just let it go?
21:42:32 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[travis-cc] * 0.23-a0-144-ge1eacd1: Add cross-compiling to travis 10(7 hours ago, 4 files, 16+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e1eacd1be239
21:42:32 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[travis-cc] * 0.23-a0-145-g069cb5d: Temporarily disable most builds for testing 10(6 hours ago, 1 file, 10+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/069cb5d4d93d
21:44:54 <advil> if it's old enough that nullptr isn't defined, there's no way crawl is going to compile
21:46:01 <advil> I guess nullptr is C++11
21:46:49 <advil> so that's pre-~2011
21:50:13 <duckroller> yeah I'm working with some crusty old installs on my CS departments clusters; been pushing dept head to update versions but he's skittish about it. I was wrong earlier; I'm (trying to) install on Centos 6.10, not Centos 7.x, which is part of why the gcc version is so out of date
21:50:14 <alexjurkiewicz> I think 4.4 has nullptr, you just need a special command line arg
21:50:27 <alexjurkiewicz> as per that stackoverflow link
21:51:00 <alexjurkiewicz> ah, a uni department computer lab, I was wondering why the use of rhel as a desktop os
21:51:39 <Naruni> dude, don't play crawl at work
21:52:35 <duckroller> It's for a research project :)
21:52:47 * geekosaur has flashbacks
21:53:08 <advil> I think we require c++14
21:53:57 <duckroller> gonna throw a bunch of instances piloted by qw into some machine learning toolkit to see if I can optimize the bot's winrate... the clusters have nice hardware, even if their OS's are getting long in the tooth
21:54:36 <advil> oh, maybe not
21:54:37 <duckroller> On a bright note, I realized a different cluster of ours has a more modern version of gcc and crawl is happily compiling away
22:05:24 <travis-ci> The build was fixed. (travis-cc - 069cb5d #10238 : advil): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/425537401
22:06:57 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.23-a0-151-gf6d1ed2: Add cross-compiling to travis 10(7 hours ago, 4 files, 16+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f6d1ed2717bd
22:09:40 <alexjurkiewicz> woah. soon c++ will have string.startswith support!
22:09:43 <alexjurkiewicz> welcome to 2018 everyone
22:10:46 <alexjurkiewicz> advil: in travis you can cancel all the jobs that you don't care about to speed up travis testing https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/425542279
22:11:23 <alexjurkiewicz> oh, nevermind. you merged to master already!
22:11:47 <alexjurkiewicz> maybe I'll look into adding a job for mac builds
22:12:07 <advil> yeah, I was working on it in my repository with a modified .travis.yml
22:12:25 <advil> easier than manually clicking cancel buttons
22:12:25 <advil> but it's done now
22:12:40 <advil> the workarounds for startswith that you find on SE etc are extremely c++
22:13:11 <advil> I think if someone asked me "what's the deal with c++" and didn't know anything, I'd sat, go look up how you're supposed to do startswith
22:13:16 <advil> *say
22:13:51 <advil> of course one of them is always, install boost, and use boost's startswith
22:13:58 <advil> and the others are just insane things
22:14:39 <advil> it'd almost be sad for that to get included, it's basically caving to python people
22:18:29 <alexjurkiewicz> SE? You mean stackoverflow or something else
22:19:10 <alexjurkiewicz> c++ people caving to python people is basically the reason I'm in here asking youse to help me with various things
22:22:57 <alexjurkiewicz> wow, using CROSSCOMPILE=1 for windows cross compile, as if OSX doesn't even exist. Rude
22:23:57 <advil> I don't think we have a way of cross-compiling on os x
22:24:07 <advil> travis natively supports it though
22:24:40 <geekosaur> os x cross-compile violates apple licensing, so travisisn't likely to support it
22:24:56 <advil> it natively supports os x
22:25:15 <alexjurkiewicz> that's true, I guess I can call it NATIVE_OSX
22:58:46 <Rast2> !streak rast
22:59:01 <Sequell> rast has 8 consecutive wins (DDSk, DDHu, DDCj, DDGl, DDTm, DDVM, DDSu, MfFi) and has won their last 3 games (HOTm, MfIE, MiNe).
23:10:23 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.23-a0-151-gf6d1ed2717 (34)
23:10:31 <travis-ci> The build has errored. (master - f6d1ed2 #10239 : advil): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/425542279
23:20:55 <alexjurkiewicz> !greatspecies rast dd
23:20:55 <alexjurkiewicz> rip
23:45:33 <Rast2> !greatrace dd rast gozag
23:48:21 <Rast2> I would like to register a complaint about Demonspawn
23:48:27 <Rast2> specifically the spines mutation
23:58:01 <alexjurkiewicz> still too good?
23:59:32 <Rast2> yeah
23:59:46 <Rast2> it doesnt really matter what you do
23:59:57 <Rast2> stuff just automatically dies