00:00:09 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.23-a0-79-gaa8cc03 (34) 00:01:37 what characters can go in team names 00:30:01 you want to be team Z͝al̸͜ǵo̸̡̧ ? 00:31:41 possibly 01:17:07 -!- ProzacElf_ is now known as ProzacElf 01:20:31 does console crawl render zalgo text correctly? I'm sure local tiles doesnt 01:27:14 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.23-a0-79-gaa8cc03 (34) 01:30:46 aidanh: i don't think that matters for team names 01:31:36 console does render it pretty well though 01:33:08 interestingly it renders Z͝al̸͜ǵo̸̡̧ pretty well but gives up with Ẓ̓̃̿̚a̴̡̱̼̞̯̲͓̘ͤ͐ͮ͞ͅĺ̨̻̣͊ͦ̽̏̍͆̀̚͠g̡̝̺̜̘̝̮̬̑̂̓͢o̜̹͛͂̆͊͊̑ͅͅ 01:33:48 oh no, it renders that okay too, i just messed up entering it 01:34:00 &dump wizamalloy 01:34:02 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/wizamalloy/wizamalloy.txt 01:34:45 ti even shows up well in the morgue. good work, apache or whatever 01:34:45 not bad 01:34:58 one day, maybe developers will be unsurprised when text renders well 01:35:06 fr: make pan lords speak in zalgo text 01:35:07 or a time zone is computed correctly 01:35:30 I'm amazed it displays that stuff in pidgin 01:35:45 rchandra: pidgin actually does a very good job rendering most stuff 01:36:09 though it actually isn't perfect. if you paste my second example into the input box it renders okay until you start editing the message 01:36:21 the dangling stuff gets left behind 01:36:28 it's a hassle to get firefox to show my rcfile properly 01:37:14 Ẓ̓̃̿̚a̴̡̱̼̞̯̲͓̘ͤ͐ͮ͞ͅĺ̨̻̣͊ͦ̽̏̍͆̀̚͠ d ddf g̡̝̺̜̘̝̮̬̑̂̓͢ o̜̹͛͂̆͊͊̑ͅͅ 01:37:21 most gui applications, at least on linux, all use the same library for text rendering 01:37:36 so things usually work pretty well 01:38:00 local tiles, of course, has its own bespoke renderer 02:00:07 when does the tourney script check for teams 02:04:04 RoGGa (L17 FoAK) Crash caused by signal #11: Segmentation fault (Shoals:2) 02:12:58 !crashlog 02:13:07 19973. RoGGa, XL17 FoAK, T:35992 (milestone): https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/morgue/RoGGa/crash-RoGGa-20180811-060403.txt 02:23:25 well it removed the > character from my teamname 02:23:49 so I dunno if ̡̗̻̝̥͙ͮ̿̊͆Z̨̭̒ͯ͛̿ͧ͂̉̉̾A͖̲̱̯̮ͣͨ̏ͩ̒̋͝͠Ļ̳̤͙̙̭̹̒͐͋ͨ̎̓̓G̡̰̣̹͓̘͉̈̔̄̐̉͋ͩ͊͟O̷̵̦̹̠̠̫̖ͣͤͩ͢!̈́̇ͬͮ҉̹ will work 02:58:08 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.23-a0-79-gaa8cc03 03:11:47 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.23-a0-79-gaa8cc03 (34) 08:53:06 hm that "GPL violation" issue from 1kb is a bit out to lunch, it's factually inaccurate in at least 4 crucial ways 08:53:11 not sure what's going on there 09:03:13 =nemelex CeIE 09:03:15 Defined keyword: nchoice => VpFE|BaEn|CeIE 10:13:34 what's the policy on commits during the tournament? 10:33:58 aidanh: it's mostly concerned with not giving people a big incentive to play a bunch of trunk games 10:34:09 contraiils (L15 DsGl) Crash caused by signal #15: Terminated (Lair:3) 10:34:21 bugfixes or minor features are fine 10:41:25 cool 10:41:43 any particular ordering to dat/descript/status.txt? seems rather haphazard 10:42:22 was looking at https://github.com/crawl/crawl/issues/836 and noticed there's a bunch of statuses missing from ?/t 10:49:27 Gautaugau (L10 MiFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 219: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:9) 10:49:31 i think it's probably a mix of "whatever the order things were in the old manual appendix" plus "whatever order things are in duration-data.h" and then with new things tacked on to the end also 11:52:45 bug: attempting to boot up sprint in .22 causes a crash and the window to close 12:31:09 odd, it works in trunk 12:45:07 <|amethyst> works fine on CAO 0.22 12:45:35 !nchoice 12:45:37 Time for a new nchoice! It will appear shortly on the tournament website (if it hasn't yet). Type "=nemelex XXXX" to update !nchoice with the new combo, where XXXX should be replaced by the new combo. 12:45:39 =nemelex DDCj 12:45:42 Defined keyword: nchoice => VpFE|BaEn|CeIE|DDCj 13:07:07 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.23-a0-79-gaa8cc03 (34) 14:09:53 did something change about the mouse settings in tiles recently? 14:10:06 and if so how do i disable them again? 14:11:45 tile_web_mouse_control = false 14:12:06 i've got that in my rc but my mouse seems to register clicking on things again 14:12:17 possibly pursuant to the UI update 14:14:00 ugh 14:14:04 thanks terence 14:16:15 oops, wrong chan for that last bit 14:36:46 ??help 14:36:46 help[1/5]: !help (I need somebody) !help (not just anybody) Try https://github.com/crawl/sequell/blob/master/docs/listgame.md or https://github.com/crawl/sequell/blob/master/docs/learndb.md 14:37:54 !apt fire 14:37:54 Fire: Gn: 6!, Dr[red]: 2, Te: 1, HO: 1, Dr[mottled]: 1, Dr[pale]: 1, Ba: 1, DE: 1, Hu: 0, HE: N/A, Op: 0, VS: 0, Ko: 0, Dr: 0, Na: 0, Fo: 0, Ha: 0, Gr: 0, Fe: -1, Ds: -1, Og: -1, Ce: -1, DD: -1, Dg: -1, Mu: -2, Dr[white]: -2, Gh: -2, Vp: -2, Sp: -2, Tr: -3*, Mf: -3*, Mi: -3* 16:03:40 =nemelex HaAE 16:03:42 Defined keyword: nchoice => VpFE|BaEn|CeIE|DDCj|HaAE 17:50:28 I understand that CAO is the central scoring server? Is anyone else not seeing their recent berotato games on it? My last two days are not visible 17:51:21 or I guess nothing since last october is visible, but I've really only played online because of the 0.22 tournament 18:00:24 snetch: we haven't added 0.22 to CAO scoring yet, that will probably happen at some point during or after tourney 18:27:43 Saw the last response after I timed out. Anyway, did you mean for just berotato or for everything? 18:28:10 the 0.22 games are still gonna count for the tourney, but not show up on CAO scoring until afterward? 18:29:56 !messages 18:29:57 No messages for ZiBuDo. 18:34:38 snetch: yes they'll all be counted normally for scoring as soon as we add the sources to CAO scoring 18:34:47 so don't worry, no games will be lost or anything 18:34:56 |amethyst: johnstein: could either of you restart CAO webtiles? 18:35:00 seems like it's gone down 18:53:00 Dang (L27 HOFi) (Geh:7) 18:53:00 jlevvv (L27 GrEE) (Pan) 18:53:07 Webtiles server restarted. 18:53:19 <|amethyst> let's see if that works 22:04:47 !nick McMoop Cerran 22:04:48 Mapping mcmoop => cerran 22:14:44 Ash warning text has double space 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11603 by Pekkekke 22:41:15 03advil02 07* 0.23-a0-80-gc95c2c7: Fix two packaging issues for source tarbells 10(13 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c95c2c784e27 22:43:50 03advil02 07[stone_soup-0.22] * 0.22.0-1-g6561e4c: Fix two packaging issues for source tarbells 10(16 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6561e4c0bdd2 22:43:51 gammafunk: can you replace the 0.22.0 nodeps tarbell upload with: https://www.dropbox.com/s/fhysibydmdro7rz/stone_soup-0.22.0-nodeps.tar.xz?dl=0 22:44:01 it includes LICENSE and doesn't include simplebar.js 22:44:18 advil: can I just make the package myself now? 22:44:45 well you might have to manually rename the tarbell? 22:44:51 otherwise, yes afaik 22:45:13 I built that still at the tag (before committing) just in case though 22:48:11 updated 22:50:20 advil: re simplebar, the major reason I used the minified version was that minifying at build time would require a lot of involved steps and add build-time deps 22:51:12 well, I think 1kb is basically right that we can't do it that way 22:51:38 I think we might actually have some scripts already in the repo for doing minification 22:51:57 it doesn't actually seem so long to me that minifying is a big deal anyways 22:52:18 just to test it out I generated the webpack-combined (but not minified) version and even that isn't so long, despite all sorts of random cruft 22:52:30 what about compilation? that script uses newer JS features, which are compiled out in the minified version 22:53:16 nothing like being technically incorrect 22:54:22 spend your dev time adding source of an open source package to satisfy debian 22:55:36 aidanh not sure if we have any way to do that...it might be GPL compatible to use the webpack output without minification? not sure what optimizations that does 22:56:07 I'm not sure why debian packages would need to include webserver/ at all, but the gpl stuff is still an issue in general, apart from debian's policies 22:56:19 yeah, debian doesn't need to include the webserver 22:56:37 in fact I think it doesn't 22:59:49 though it may be default just include whatever's in the nodeps tarbell as the source 23:01:15 by 'use the webpack output' you mean manually build a concatenated, recompiled version and then commit that? 23:01:35 it's a possibility 23:02:11 it depends on how seriously someone like 1kb is going to push the "preferred form for editing" thing (all of this stuff is pretty gray-area-ish) but that file is quite human readable/editable 23:04:34 aidanh: if you're curious, what came out of webpack is https://www.dropbox.com/s/izt8dfy1ehbreve/simplebar.manual.js?dl=0 23:04:53 (I haven't tested to see if that actually works) 23:05:55 btw did you ever try putting that in a contrib folder? I tried for a few minutes and couldn't get it to work 23:06:08 not exactly "preferred form for editing", but reasonably clear 23:06:20 that actually would have (accidentally, I guess) avoided this whole thing because any contrib folder is auto-excluded from the nodeps build 23:06:27 if you put it in a contrib folder you have to monkey with the include paths 23:06:32 I did that 23:06:39 tornado didn't seem to be serving the subfolder 23:06:49 oh, then I'm not sure 23:08:43 what if we committed the sources of the dependencies, with makefile rules to concatenate them, and also commit the concatenated result? 23:09:31 that's probably fine depending on how the concatenation is done 23:09:37 it's not ideal, but it definitely includes the source in the "preferred form for editing", and if we commit the result there's no need to require everyone to install a truckload of js dev tools 23:10:08 I have to admit I had some trouble disentangling the exact complaints but one of them seemed to be the specific means of generating a minified js file 23:10:15 I meant using webpack / whatever to do the concatenation 23:10:33 Stable (0.22) branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.22.0-1-g6561e4c0bd 23:10:48 ah, I'm not sure, though I suspect 1kb specifically wouldn't be happy with that -- I have to admit I had some trouble unpacking the pieces of the complaint but that seemed to be one of them 23:13:06 1kb said "If a compiled form is shipped, GPL requires shipping source as well." and "GPL2 1 requires actual source. Plus build scripts (like a Makefile)."; as far as I can see, both of those requirements would be satisfied 23:13:26 that is, the specific build process 23:13:51 I'm not sure a build process that calls webpack would fly 23:14:05 ah, the "only as a part of the build process" bit? urgh 23:14:25 though I really don't know, I don't actually see why that specifically would be a GPL issue, it doesn't seem to me like the means of minification really matters 23:15:50 why wouldn't a build process using webpack be acceptable? 23:16:35 I don't know if using the build process and then committing the result satisfies "only as a part of the build process" 23:20:56 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.23-a0-80-gc95c2c784e (34) 23:23:48 I'm just not sure 23:30:15 advil: found what looks to be a pre-built but editable version here: https://unpkg.com/simplebar@3.0.0-beta.1/dist/simplebar.js 23:30:53 that might be a feasible drop-in replacement 23:53:48 The build has errored. (master - c95c2c7 #10118 : advil): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/415012318 23:59:33 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.23-a0-80-gc95c2c7 (34)