00:00:18 <Eksell> Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.22-a0-515-g75794bf (34)
00:01:01 <geekosaur> part of the problem there is console has rather a shortage of usable and distinct colors
00:19:03 -!- neofelis_ is now known as neofelis
00:19:49 <neofelis> also, it does not work on local tiles
00:20:21 <floraline> i finally got https working, but i had to tweak server.py to do it
03:21:46 <aidanh> !tell floraline I found using strace to be pretty handy when figuring out why parts of the webtiles setup are silently failing (and for finding where they're writing their log files)
03:21:47 <Sequell> aidanh: OK, I'll let floraline know.
03:22:30 <Rotatell> Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.22-a0-515-g75794bf (34)
03:25:41 <aidanh> !tell neofelis to get it working on tiles you'll need to modify packed_cell and a few files that deal with those (both c++ and js)
03:25:41 <Sequell> aidanh: OK, I'll let neofelis know.
03:32:23 <aidanh> !tell neofelis a highlight flag is probably the wrong approach; instead, check the monster_info in the map cell
03:32:23 <Sequell> aidanh: OK, I'll let neofelis know.
04:56:07 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
05:12:06 -!- eb__ is now known as eb
08:10:30 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/728 * 0.22-a0-603-gf109ab1: fixup! Add HTML scroller 10(28 hours ago, 2 files, 106+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f109ab1dff92
08:10:30 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/728 * 0.22-a0-604-g8efd3a0: fixup! Add popup background to webtiles 10(28 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8efd3a014217
08:10:30 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/728 * 0.22-a0-605-gbce5d6d: fixup! Refactor and improve Menu UI implementation 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bce5d6da9d57
08:10:30 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/728 * 0.22-a0-606-g4b2d6d5: fixup! Implement some webtiles UIs in HTML 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4b2d6d52aa1b
08:10:30 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/728 * 0.22-a0-607-g72c0559: fixup! Render menus with new UI framework 10(27 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/72c0559e8abf
08:10:30 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/728 * 0.22-a0-608-g90da9ba: Fix webtiles menu scrolling with non-100% zoom (NormalPerson7) 10(27 minutes ago, 1 file, 22+ 32-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/90da9ba55f58
08:10:33 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07[ui-overhaul] * 0.22-a0-603-gf109ab1: fixup! Add HTML scroller 10(28 hours ago, 2 files, 106+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f109ab1dff92
08:10:33 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07[ui-overhaul] * 0.22-a0-604-g8efd3a0: fixup! Add popup background to webtiles 10(28 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8efd3a014217
08:10:33 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07[ui-overhaul] * 0.22-a0-605-gbce5d6d: fixup! Refactor and improve Menu UI implementation 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bce5d6da9d57
08:10:33 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07[ui-overhaul] * 0.22-a0-606-g4b2d6d5: fixup! Implement some webtiles UIs in HTML 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4b2d6d52aa1b
08:10:33 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07[ui-overhaul] * 0.22-a0-607-g72c0559: fixup! Render menus with new UI framework 10(27 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/72c0559e8abf
08:10:33 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07[ui-overhaul] * 0.22-a0-608-g90da9ba: Fix webtiles menu scrolling with non-100% zoom (NormalPerson7) 10(27 minutes ago, 1 file, 22+ 32-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/90da9ba55f58
09:03:37 <travis-ci> The build passed. (ui-overhaul - 90da9ba #9799 : Aidan Holm): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/394074784
09:31:48 -!- Bammboobies is now known as Bammboo
10:14:18 <Rotatell> Experimental (ui-overhaul) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.22-a0-608-g90da9ba
10:49:24 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/728 * 0.22-a0-609-g968e5f3: fixup! fixup! Add improved deck description UI 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/968e5f304b43
10:49:24 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/728 * 0.22-a0-610-g87edc4e: fixup! Refactor and improve Menu UI implementation 10(40 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/87edc4e8740f
10:49:26 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07[ui-overhaul] * 0.22-a0-609-g968e5f3: fixup! fixup! Add improved deck description UI 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/968e5f304b43
10:49:26 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07[ui-overhaul] * 0.22-a0-610-g87edc4e: fixup! Refactor and improve Menu UI implementation 10(42 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/87edc4e8740f
10:50:10 <Rotatell> Experimental (ui-overhaul) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.22-a0-610-g87edc4e
10:54:13 <gammafunk> fixup!
11:01:45 <aidanh> it's such a nifty feature
11:02:36 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/728 * 0.22-a0-611-g28b868e: fixup! Fix webtiles menu scrolling with non-100% zoom (NormalPerson7) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/28b868e71714
11:02:38 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07[ui-overhaul] * 0.22-a0-611-g28b868e: fixup! Fix webtiles menu scrolling with non-100% zoom (NormalPerson7) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/28b868e71714
11:03:10 <Rotatell> Experimental (ui-overhaul) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.22-a0-611-g28b868e
11:03:31 <aidanh> oof, okay, that should be all of the synchronized scrolling bugs sorted out
11:05:25 <aidanh> squash! works as well, if you also want to add info to the original commit's message
11:15:34 <gammafunk> I'll have to look into using those two more
11:33:23 <NP7> I see the scrolling issue has been fixed! yay!
11:33:24 <Sequell> NP7: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it.
11:33:29 <NP7> !messages
11:33:30 <Sequell> (1/1) aidanh said (1h 18m 21s ago): I've fixed all the bugs you reported; thanks again!
11:34:19 <aidanh> yep, and the ?Q issue, and a keypress-eating bug I found for good measure
11:36:18 <NP7> one other thing I noticed: in normal webtiles, ?Q and ?V accept both lowercase and uppercase versions of Q and V
11:36:35 <NP7> whereas in ui-overhaul uppercase Q and uppercase V don't work
11:38:13 <NP7> in fact, uppercase V and uppercase Q exit the ? menu, whereas every other letter that isn't a command on that screen does nothing
11:38:18 <aidanh> yup, I noticed that as well, should be a trivial fix
11:38:33 <NP7> ok :)
11:39:51 <NP7> I'm still getting the weird issues with the up/down arrows on ctrl-p and the subscreens of ?, though
11:40:54 <aidanh> fixed the ?v ?q issue; what was the issue with ctrl-p and the ? subscreens again?
11:42:17 <NP7> if I press buttons slowly, every third press of the down arrow does nothing, and the amount the up arrow scrolls up is 2 lines, whereas the down arrow only scrolls down 1 line (when the down arrow even works, that is)
11:43:45 <NP7> if I press the down arrow repeatedly quickly, the screen jumps back up sometimes
11:47:13 <aidanh> what's your browser zoom level? does this still happen if you set browser zoom to 100%, then fully reload the game and open the ctrl-p screen?
11:48:47 <NP7> it seems fully reproducible at all zoom levels
11:49:29 <NP7> nvm
11:49:30 <NP7> I lie
11:51:27 -!- yesno_ is now known as yesno
11:52:00 <aidanh> I can reproduce "every third press of the down arrow does nothing" at 150% zoom, which makes sense
11:52:12 <NP7> oh hmm
11:52:17 <NP7> let me try at 67% then
11:52:19 <aidanh> seems it's some chrome-specific jquery behaviour
11:52:34 <NP7> oh hmm
11:52:38 <aidanh> no need :) now that I can reproduce it, it should be fairly straightforward
11:53:14 <NP7> hah, it eats every second input at 67%
11:54:02 <NP7> and somewhere in between at other zoom levels; but it works normally at 80% for me
11:54:29 <NP7> in case you wanted more info anyway :D
12:04:17 <aidanh> hrm, that actually revealed another bug
12:05:30 <aidanh> down-arrow presses are sent to the crawl binary, which scrolls its own scroller and then tells all webtiles clients (and the player) to scroll to a certain line
12:06:47 <aidanh> then the player webtiles would scroll to the new position, which is normal; the buggy bit is it would then detect this scroll and send another scroll event to the server, with buggy info due to the chrome-jquery issue
12:42:38 <Cheibriados> 03floraline02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/784 * 0.22-a0-537-gbce20ac: Merge branch 'master' into webtiles-password-reset 10(5 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bce20acb8ec9
13:05:31 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.22-a0-515-g75794bf (34)
13:10:40 <Cheibriados> 03Muffindrake02 {gammafunk} 07* 0.22-a0-516-g6ea8e7e: Add four ghost vaults for mainly Depths 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 104+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6ea8e7e0cb46
13:10:40 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.22-a0-517-g95e1b32: Adjust the vault muffindrake_ghost_dual_entry 10(18 hours ago, 1 file, 16+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/95e1b32bc95f
13:10:40 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.22-a0-518-g2547c9b: Adjust the vault muffindrake_ghost_three_little_ghosts 10(13 hours ago, 1 file, 19+ 22-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2547c9b189a8
13:10:40 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.22-a0-519-g0da5cb0: Adjust the vault muffindrake_ghost_dead_mans_drink 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 22+ 21-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0da5cb03f1a0
13:31:51 <Cheibriados> New branch created: pull/791 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/791
13:31:51 <Cheibriados> 03floraline02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/791 * 0.22-a0-516-g8e53af2: Use X-Forwarded-Proto header for websocket protocol 10(16 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8e53af21fc44
13:48:12 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
13:48:56 <floraline> alexjurkiewicz: your nginx.conf suggests you are connecting to webtiles over http, how did you avoid this problem described in my pull request 791?
13:48:56 <Sequell> floraline: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it.
13:49:04 <floraline> !messages
13:49:04 <Sequell> (1/1) aidanh said (10h 27m 18s ago): I found using strace to be pretty handy when figuring out why parts of the webtiles setup are silently failing (and for finding where they're writing their log files)
14:04:01 <muffindrake> man strace
14:04:04 <muffindrake> fuck
14:09:55 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.22-a0-519-g0da5cb03f1 (34)
14:26:02 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07[ui-overhaul] * 0.22-a0-612-g5c6b39d: fixup! Use a formatted scroller for the help UI 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5c6b39d55959
14:26:02 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07[ui-overhaul] * 0.22-a0-613-g65b8144: squash! fixup! fixup! fixup! Add HTML formatted scroller UI 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 18+ 12-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/65b8144b1741
14:28:02 <Rotatell> Experimental (ui-overhaul) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.22-a0-613-g65b8144
14:30:03 <aidanh> NP7: all fixed
14:31:16 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/728 * 0.22-a0-612-g5c6b39d: fixup! Use a formatted scroller for the help UI 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5c6b39d55959
14:31:16 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/728 * 0.22-a0-613-g65b8144: squash! fixup! fixup! fixup! Add HTML formatted scroller UI 10(11 minutes ago, 1 file, 18+ 12-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/65b8144b1741
14:33:45 <gammafunk> if (msg.scroll == 2147483647) // FS_START_AT_END
14:33:49 <gammafunk> good number
14:34:33 <aidanh> yeah; I debated putting in -1-(1<<31), but I figured the number isn't going to change
14:34:37 <gammafunk> is it not JS style to use some kind of enum or global?
14:35:24 <gammafunk> I have very little js experience, most if it comes from reading/tweaking webtiles stuff
14:36:35 <aidanh> well, FS_START_AT_END is a flag that makes the scrollers start at a position of INT_MAX
14:36:52 <aidanh> which is the 2^31-1 == 2147...
14:37:27 <NP7> squash of a fixup of a fixup of a fixup
14:37:35 <NP7> that is quite something
14:37:56 <aidanh> hm, I suppose that does depend on the crawl binary being built on a platform with 32 bit ints
14:37:58 <aidanh> not good
14:38:44 <aidanh> yep! a rebase should condense all those (if it doesn't, I'm in trouble)
14:39:34 <floraline> is ccache aware of git branches? or does it always incrementally build the current branch on top of whatever was last built?
14:40:00 <gammafunk> ccache doesn't understand what a git branch is or what git is in general
14:40:18 <gammafunk> it simply has a cache based on objects it's seen before
14:40:38 <floraline> so if you want to build multiple branches incrementally but independently, you would have to keep them in separate directories?
14:41:18 <gammafunk> no, I think it works fine, it's just eventually you run out of cache space potentially
14:41:28 <gammafunk> although I forget how the mapping process works
14:42:15 <floraline> so if i build branch A then checkout new branch B and build, does it build from scratch or would the build already be considered up to date?
14:42:54 <aidanh> it would build whatever needed rebuilding, based on which files git touched
14:43:56 <gammafunk> yeah, make will see that the files have changed, hence it will always call your compiler
14:43:58 <aidanh> oh, new branch; that shouldn't touch any files, so it'd be considered up to date
14:44:24 <floraline> so if i switch from branch A to existing branch C, it will build from branch A's state. and switching back to A will build from C's state
14:44:30 <floraline> so if A and C are very different, the build is long
14:45:08 <floraline> wouldn't it be better to keep the branches separate so they each always build from their own previous state?
14:45:11 <gammafunk> not sure what you mean by "build from branch A's state"
14:45:33 <floraline> i mean whatever state the cache is in after building A
14:46:00 <aidanh> the cache does not throw away objects from branch A just because it sees objects from branch B with the same name/path
14:46:27 <floraline> how does it know not to do that if it doesn't know about branches?
14:47:07 <gammafunk> I beleive it looks at something like a hash of the resulting post-processed source file?
14:47:07 <advil> it's basically like a hashtable of source files
14:47:19 <floraline> ohh i see.
14:47:22 <advil> so if the branch changes, the hashes won't (necessarily) match
14:47:28 <gammafunk> but your cache has finite size
14:47:50 <gammafunk> eventually it will fill and maybe some of those branch C source file hashes no longer exist
14:47:54 <advil> yeah, it throws away objects if the cache gets too big, something that definitely happens for crawl builds on typical ccache settings
14:47:59 <floraline> so assuming enough cache size, if you repeatedly switch between branches A and C which are very different from each other, the build would be considered up to date on both
14:48:11 <gammafunk> there's a max on the cache size
14:48:27 <gammafunk> mine is 5.4G
14:48:28 <aidanh> not exactly; after a switch you'll need to rebuild any files that were changed by the switch
14:48:40 <aidanh> but it'll be very fast, because the results are all cached
14:48:50 <gammafunk> right, don't confuse what make is doing vs what ccache is doing
14:48:57 <floraline> okay, right. that makes sense
14:49:01 <gammafunk> make will see each and every file different between A and C as changed
14:49:06 <gammafunk> hence it will call the compiler for each
14:49:10 <gammafunk> but that compiler will be ccache
14:49:16 <floraline> i see
14:49:18 <floraline> that's very cool
14:49:27 <advil> I have my max cache size at about 5G, too
14:49:29 <gammafunk> if ccache has source hash entries for all of them, it will be fast, but still slower than if it did nothing
14:49:36 <gammafunk> I think the manual says that this is the max
14:49:42 <floraline> thanks for the explanations :)
14:49:54 <floraline> is that max a limitation of ccache or just your own disk space?
14:50:04 <gammafunk> ccache manual said (at the time) it's the max
14:50:11 <floraline> oh ok
14:50:29 <gammafunk> hrm, mine seems to say you can set 0 for no limit though
14:50:48 <advil> that seems risky :)
14:50:50 <gammafunk> but it does sort of seem like a file you'd eventually want to clean up
14:50:51 <gammafunk> right
14:51:12 <gammafunk> ah, default value is 5G
14:51:17 <advil> ah
14:51:24 <advil> maybe I increased it on my other computer
14:51:41 <gammafunk> I swear this used to talk about a limit! Either that or I'm totally wrong, and I've never been wrong
14:51:50 <floraline> lol
14:51:52 <aidanh> I thought it did some sort of automatic cleanup
14:52:55 <aidanh> ah, indeed it does
14:52:59 <gammafunk> sloppiness (CCACHE_SLOPPINESS)
14:53:03 <gammafunk> I like a good variable name
14:53:29 <gammafunk> oh, yeah I see the section on cleanup
14:53:35 <floraline> how much does a 5G cache size help? is that enough to retain a full cache for two branches?
14:53:54 <aidanh> if you set no file limit and no disk space limit, it helpfully disables automatic cleanup for you
14:54:04 <aidanh> I suppose that's to be expected, really, but it could at least try...
14:55:28 <gammafunk> my cache is sitting at 4.8 out of 5.4 gb
14:55:34 <gammafunk> I feel it fills up rather frequently
14:56:20 <aidanh> there's around 0.5gb of .o files, so it will fill up reasonably fast, yeah
14:57:38 <gammafunk> maybe I should just increase it to 50GB though
14:58:02 <gammafunk> oh, another nice thing might be if we added ccache setup to the dgl instructions
14:58:14 <gammafunk> I think a bunch of servers aren't running it but could be
15:02:22 <floraline> well it is in the install.txt
15:02:35 <floraline> do you have to do anything special to use it with dgl's update-trunk and update-stable
15:02:54 <floraline> i figured make and ccache would just work it out on their own
15:03:29 <gammafunk> well you do have to set up e.g. PATH to call ccache, and I forget how those scripts set that up
15:06:24 <aidanh> are there any monsters that can swim and go invis? looks like there's only disturbance tiles for shallow water
15:06:27 <amalloy> is it going to help that much with servers? if there's no human messing with git directly, i would expect make to do a good job of knowing what needs to be recompiled and what doesn't
15:06:42 <advil> oh, hm, anaconda took over my clang, that's annoying
15:07:07 <wheals> chaos brand can make anything invisible
15:08:11 <aidanh> right, yeah
15:08:36 <gammafunk> yeah I guess ccache wouldn't help as much on a server
15:08:46 <floraline> why not?
15:09:00 <gammafunk> well, for the reason amalloy said, basically
15:09:04 <floraline> don't the dgl scripts checkout branches before building? it sounds like exactly what we were describing
15:09:22 <gammafunk> yes but branches that servers build are basically independent, and it's mostly only trunk
15:09:50 <gammafunk> they might see some update to stable very rarely but this will not be the same as trunk due to divergence anyhow
15:10:23 <floraline> if you have some nightly script to update stable and trunk, it would check out stable on top of trunk which would require a big build
15:10:31 <floraline> then it would check out trunk on top of stable which would require another big build
15:10:32 <gammafunk> the only benefit might be for something like experimentals on cbro, but that's probably going to mostly miss the cache
15:10:49 <gammafunk> stable and trunk are highly diverged, floraline
15:10:50 <amalloy> stable "never" changes though
15:11:01 <gammafunk> stable is quite rarely updated, trunk is updated extremely often
15:11:18 <floraline> right but doesn't that just mean the differential is even bigger, requiring an even bigger build?
15:11:20 <amalloy> can someone link me to the automatic-rebuild script the servers use? i always forget what it does
15:11:45 <floraline> the more trunk diverges from stable, the bigger the build would have to be
15:11:55 <gammafunk> no
15:12:07 <gammafunk> the more stable diverges from stable, the bigger the build would be
15:12:08 <floraline> without ccache i mean
15:12:17 <gammafunk> servers do not use the same dir for trunk and stable
15:12:24 <floraline> oh
15:12:31 <gammafunk> if they had one checkout, then yes ccache would be useful
15:12:36 <gammafunk> hrm, well
15:12:43 <gammafunk> I guess actually they do use one repo don't they
15:12:49 <gammafunk> now that I think about it
15:12:54 <floraline> mine says, "you are at master! let's go to stable"
15:12:58 <floraline> then "you are at stable, let's go to master"
15:13:01 <gammafunk> so yeah maybe that's the benefit for ccache I was thinking of
15:13:10 <gammafunk> so maybe that's the answer to amalloy's original question
15:13:26 <floraline> referring to git branches i mean
15:13:26 <gammafunk> I sort of was recalling how ccache might benefit servers but I couldn't really remember how
15:13:43 <floraline> if they aren't using different directories, they will be uselessly rebuilding on top of each other
15:13:54 <floraline> which is where it sounds like ccache would be useful
15:14:19 <gammafunk> well again, for stable vs trunk, it's not some tremendous benefit; the reason is because stable is rarely updated
15:14:32 <gammafunk> so you have to set up ccache for the one time in 6 months when you update stable
15:14:34 <amalloy> right. you'd save a decent amount of time, but only quite rarely
15:15:07 <gammafunk> we tend to update stable contemporaneously with trunk for a couple weeks before release
15:15:21 <gammafunk> then there are sporadic updates to stable for maybe the first 2-4 weeks post release
15:15:31 <gammafunk> then stable is mostly untouched for long periods
15:15:37 <gammafunk> but yes, that's one benefit ccache would give
15:15:39 <gammafunk> also cbro
15:15:42 <gammafunk> which has a few experimentals
15:15:47 <gammafunk> it would see maybe significant benefit
15:15:53 <gammafunk> I believe it uses the same repo for everything
15:16:18 -!- Fixer_ is now known as Fixer
15:16:42 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.22-a0-520-g9de5397: Add a wizmode command to completely wipe out the level map 10(3 hours ago, 4 files, 33+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9de53972e01e
15:16:42 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.22-a0-521-gb137804: Add a targeter for wands of digging 10(16 minutes ago, 8 files, 144+ 16-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b1378044ac6b
15:16:53 <floraline> but it would be a big difference even if stable never changes
15:16:53 <floraline> if you build trunk in directory A, then check out stable to that directory, you have to build all of stable even if it never changed
15:17:05 <gammafunk> well no, what you're describing is a *small* benefit
15:17:21 <gammafunk> I set up ccache because once in six months I check out stable?
15:17:27 <gammafunk> doesn't sound amazing to me
15:18:00 <floraline> oh right if you are checking it out infrequently then it's not a big deal
15:18:10 <floraline> the wiki suggests to put update-trunk and update-stable in a nightly cron job
15:18:16 <floraline> that update-stable script would check out the branch and build it
15:18:29 <floraline> so with a cron job like that you would be building stable every night
15:19:36 <gammafunk> yeah, I'm not sure how most servers are set up, but even so that's not exactly a ccache issue, but a build script issue
15:19:44 <gammafunk> it merely needs to fetch and determine if there's a new commit
15:20:21 <floraline> i see
15:20:51 <gammafunk> amalloy: https://github.com/neilmoore/dgamelaunch-config/tree/szorg/bin
15:20:59 <gammafunk> update-stable.sh and update-trunk.sh
15:21:23 <gammafunk> sorry
15:21:26 <gammafunk> https://github.com/neilmoore/dgamelaunch-config/tree/szorg/crawl-build
15:21:29 <gammafunk> is really what you want
15:24:29 <gammafunk> advil: nice commits, both of those
15:24:39 <gammafunk> digging wand was pretty weird to use
15:24:44 <advil> thanks
15:24:52 <gammafunk> I guess it still sort of is, if you have undiggable stuff nearby
15:24:58 <gammafunk> but the targetter will help clear things up a lot
15:25:02 <advil> the digging targeter was surprisingly hard to do
15:25:57 <advil> for passwall I effectively wrote my own beam-like class, but digging was already tightly integrated to the existing beam, so I had to work with that
15:26:58 -!- Bammboobies is now known as Bammboo
15:27:05 <gammafunk> that's the most insidious thing about the beam class
15:27:25 <gammafunk> it's not even called beam! it's called bolt
15:27:36 <gammafunk> and the file is beam.cc and the instance names are all beam (or beem)
15:27:53 <advil> heh yeah
15:51:27 <floraline> !tell alexjurkiewicz how did you solve the issue described in PR 791?
15:51:27 <Sequell> floraline: OK, I'll let alexjurkiewicz know.
15:59:01 <Cheibriados> Tiles version crashes on launch 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11498 by Flibulle
16:09:59 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.22-a0-521-gb1378044ac (34)
18:00:13 <gammafunk> dangit
18:00:13 <gammafunk> who change a header to force me to recompile everything
18:04:47 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.22-a0-522-g01493d7: A demon polymorph themed Depths ghost vault from Biasface 10(41 minutes ago, 1 file, 25+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/01493d7835ab
18:08:17 <advil> me
18:09:18 <gammafunk> !flip compilation
18:09:18 <Sequell> (╯°□°)╯︵ u°ᴉʇɐlᴉdɯ°ɔ
18:11:54 <gammafunk> |amethyst: slight correction to your reddit, post edit, you actually can still wield bread, you can hit w* and choose most non-equipment items still (including rations)
18:12:13 <gammafunk> although I suppose it's technically correct that you can no longer wield bread since bread no longer exists as such
18:12:15 <|amethyst> oh, I thought I tried that and it didn't work
18:12:23 <|amethyst> oh
18:12:24 <gammafunk> yeah I just tried, did work
18:12:27 <|amethyst> I didn't use *
18:12:29 <|amethyst> or rather
18:12:43 <|amethyst> I used *, checked the letter, and used * again before I tried pressing that letter
18:15:43 <|amethyst> gammafunk:  thanks, you have a new username mention
18:16:14 <|amethyst> gammafunk: I assume that, unlike the cool people, you don't have gold, so I have to tell you this
18:20:47 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.22-a0-521-gb1378044ac (34)
18:20:49 <gammafunk> I think I get a reddit message
18:21:08 <gammafunk> yeah it does
18:21:47 <|amethyst> ah
18:22:51 <|amethyst> for some reason I thought that was or used to be a gold-only option, but it seems I am wrong on both accounts
18:23:18 <|amethyst> well, maybe I should cancel my gold subscription
18:23:46 <|amethyst> I hear if I do that, I'll get corpses instead
18:23:55 <|amethyst> but my potions might not work for a while
18:24:18 <gammafunk> reddit kiku is just a stronger god anyhow imo
18:24:51 <|amethyst> judging by the quality of discussion, I think many subreddits are populated by Trog worshippers
18:26:03 <|amethyst> /r/marijuanaenthusiasts/ is full of Fedhasites
18:26:52 <|amethyst> from the sidebar: "Posts only involving cannabis may be removed."
18:29:30 <gammafunk> nice trees on that reddit
18:59:56 <Cheibriados> Vault inaccessible, even from above or below 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11499 by Svankensen
19:09:59 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.22-a0-522-g01493d7835 (34)
19:30:19 <alexjurkiewicz> !tell floraline if it's not clear from my PR comments, I use webtiles-changes, which was intended to be the python3 rewrite of webtiles, but isn't compatible with the `dgl` script so no other server migrated to it
19:30:19 <Sequell> alexjurkiewicz: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them.
19:30:19 <Sequell> alexjurkiewicz: OK, I'll let floraline know.
19:30:33 <alexjurkiewicz> I need to blacklist myself from sequell
20:14:25 <neofelis> !tell aidanh thanks. having hacked together a map_cell.flags solution for local tiles, I agree that checking the monster_info is probably better if it's doable, but I'm not yet clear on whether it is.
20:14:26 <Sequell> neofelis: OK, I'll let aidanh know.
20:24:53 <neofelis> how can I locally test if something works in webtiles? does 'make WEBTILES=y' get me something I can just run, or ...?
20:28:38 <geekosaur> by running "python webserver/server.py"
20:29:54 <aidanh> that, after a `make WEBTILES=y`
20:29:54 <Sequell> aidanh: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it.
20:33:08 <geekosaur> and you need some python stuff installed (at least tornado, 3.x ok, later not)
20:34:04 <geekosaur> if you build webtiles, you get a program that also works as a console build if run direct;y
20:34:06 <geekosaur> directly
20:34:44 <neofelis> excellent
20:50:49 -!- Bammboobies is now known as Bammboo
20:51:10 <Lightli> ??plan
20:51:10 <Sequell> plan[1/2]: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/wiki/0.21-Development-and-Release-Plan
20:52:40 <aidanh> looks like that needs an update
20:55:12 <alexjurkiewicz> I wonder if anyone has won a gnoll with skill level 27
20:57:49 <aidanh> alexjurkiewicz, guess you didn't see my earlier message: could you possibly remove/hide ui-overhaul while the static changes aren't merged?
20:59:31 <aidanh> also, is the ui-overhaul-wtc branch going to be of any use to you? (it's diverged somewhat by now)
21:16:36 <Lightli> I don't know what else is planned for .22
21:16:53 <Lightli> although ghost overhaul will be nice next time I play
21:16:53 <Lightli> more vaults = good
21:28:14 <gammafunk> !lg * won gn won recent max=length(maxskills) x=maxskills
21:28:16 <Sequell> 886. [maxskills=Fighting,Short Blades,Long Blades,Axes,Maces & Flails,Polearms,Staves,Slings,Bows,Crossbows,Throwing,Armour,Dodging,Stealth,Shields,Unarmed Combat,Spellcasting,Conjurations,Hexes,Charms,Summonings,Necromancy,Translocations,Transmutations,Fire Magic,Ice Magic,Air Magic,Earth Magic,Poison Magic,Invocations,Evocations] Croases the Politician (L27 GnVM of Cheibriados), escaped with the...
21:28:19 <gammafunk> alexjurkiewicz: ^
21:49:55 <wheals> !lg * won gn recent sklev=27
21:49:57 <Sequell> 172. barkas the Archmage (L27 GnWn of Cheibriados), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2018-06-19 19:52:39, with 13291948 points after 121141 turns and 11:54:02.
21:50:09 <wheals> pretty good number of people doing it
21:50:20 <wheals> actually, hm
21:50:23 <wheals> that's not quite right
21:50:53 <wheals> !lg * won gn recent max=length(maxskills) x=length(maxskills)
21:50:55 <Sequell> 886. [length(maxskills)=316] Croases the Politician (L27 GnVM of Cheibriados), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2017-09-30 17:50:06, with 11667682 points after 143606 turns and 6:46:15.
21:51:29 <wheals> !lg * won gn recent ${length(maxskills)=316}
21:51:30 <Sequell> 41. rudtn1047 the Intangible (L27 GnFi of Makhleb), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2018-06-10 18:40:37, with 16220006 points after 98500 turns and 9:41:48.
21:51:47 <wheals> 41 games maxing out everything
22:02:40 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
22:28:58 <floraline> i can't get tornado logging to work properly
22:28:58 <Sequell> floraline: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it.
22:29:10 <floraline> i'm sure there is an error but i can't see it
22:32:32 <floraline> !messages
22:32:32 <Sequell> (1/1) alexjurkiewicz said (3h 2m 13s ago): if it's not clear from my PR comments, I use webtiles-changes, which was intended to be the python3 rewrite of webtiles, but isn't compatible with the `dgl` script so no other server migrated to it
23:07:19 <Cheibriados> 03ebering02 {gammafunk} 07* 0.22-a0-523-g52696f8: Two item themed ghost vaults 10(5 days ago, 1 file, 78+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/52696f896f38
23:07:19 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.22-a0-524-gc87f014: Updates to ebering_ghost_inner_flame 10(4 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c87f014911d7
23:07:19 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.22-a0-525-gf69a080: Updates to ebering_funeral_grove 10(51 minutes ago, 1 file, 42+ 43-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f69a0803abbf
23:20:46 <Alcon> So... it looks like I've managed to get crawl master to compile on eclipse.
23:29:46 <muffindrake> Alcon: but why
23:30:40 <Alcon> tbh, I've never tried to port a c/c++ project to eclipse before... I thought it would be a neat application...
23:31:11 <Alcon> I thought it would be neat to see if I could get the tiles mode to compile from eclipse...  haven't done that successfully, yet.
23:31:29 <Alcon> I have it compiling successfully via command line...
23:31:43 <Alcon> But eclipse would allow me to alter the source code that I'm interested in.
23:31:57 <Alcon> ... and I could still compile my changes via command line.
23:32:20 <Alcon> There seems not to be many dcss variants out there; like with angand.
23:32:29 <Alcon> *angband
23:34:07 <muffindrake> the "experimentals" are variants
23:34:26 <muffindrake> the largest forks would be hellcrawl and gooncrawl
23:34:30 <CanOfWorms> there are a few variants, just not a lot of active variants
23:36:02 <Alcon> Did hellcrawl end up being a branch off of main?
23:36:11 <CanOfWorms> yes
23:36:21 <Alcon> https://github.com/Hellmonk/hellcrawl
23:36:27 <Alcon> <-- ah; here's home
23:36:40 <CanOfWorms> ??circus
23:36:40 <Sequell> I don't have a page labeled circus in my learndb.
23:36:44 <CanOfWorms> ??circus animals
23:36:44 <Sequell> circus animals ~ circus animal ~ dcssca[1/4]: Fork of Crawl maintained by jeremygurr. Features include 9-lived felids, the return of djinni, and 104 inventory slots. Try it out at https://crawl.project357.org/
23:36:51 <CanOfWorms> ??extra hearty
23:36:52 <Sequell> I don't have a page labeled extra_hearty in my learndb.
23:37:08 <CanOfWorms> ??dcss-ehe
23:37:08 <Sequell> I don't have a page labeled dcss-ehe in my learndb.
23:37:17 <CanOfWorms> oh
23:37:25 <CanOfWorms> well extra hearty is at https://github.com/tmhedberg/dcss-ehe
23:37:47 <CanOfWorms> there's also https://github.com/dtsund/crawl-light
23:38:10 <Alcon> Are any of them as good as the likes of pernband/zangband?
23:38:25 <CanOfWorms> no idea
23:38:32 <Alcon> lol, fair enough
23:39:07 <CanOfWorms> I'm not familiar with those branches (other than circus animals) or the bands
23:39:19 <Alcon> Hey hey... tiles compiles!  :)
23:40:11 <Alcon> You folks have really done a nice job with this... this thing takes around 15 minutes to compile... but it does so with hardly a hitch!!
23:44:06 <Alcon> Who's the lead dev on this project?
23:44:23 <Alcon> I'm seeing 'advil'
23:44:29 <Alcon> I'm seeing 'gammafunk' a lot...
23:45:59 <Alcon> .... if I had to guess... it would be 'gammafunk'
23:46:14 * geekosaur is not sure there's a lead as such
23:46:50 <Alcon> So... how does it get decided whether or not a change gets incorporated into the master branch?
23:48:02 <CanOfWorms> people who have commit and are interesting in implementing something discuss it to get some ideas for the implementation
23:48:11 <geekosaur> discussion here or other places, mostly. although often it just gets committed. (which in the past has led to a few epic revert wars)
23:48:29 <CanOfWorms> if it's a under the hood qol feature like most commits have been recently they generally don't need much discussion other than specific implementation details
23:49:45 <Alcon> Hmm... neat.
23:49:51 <CanOfWorms> more dramatic changes get made in a branch for the other devs to look over it and give their thoughts
23:49:57 <Alcon> Your commit comments are *really* detailed.
23:54:39 <Alcon> Hmm... I have no clue how this code works... I suppose that I'll just poke around in the commit history until I get a feel for how it works.
23:56:56 <geekosaur> …and possibly still be confused after. Welcome to crawlcode. >.>
23:57:23 <CanOfWorms> ??black magic
23:57:23 <Sequell> black magic[1/6]: <archl> %git HEAD^{/rod}^^{/rod}
23:57:49 <gammafunk> ??black_magic2
23:57:49 <Sequell> black magic2 ~ black magic[1/6]: <archl> %git HEAD^{/rod}^^{/rod}
23:57:52 <gammafunk> ??black_magic[2
23:57:53 <Sequell> black magic[2/6]: for y in {0..7}; do for b in 0 1; do for x in {0..7}; do printf '\e[%1d;4%1d;3%1dm%1d/%1d ' ${b} ${y} ${x} ${x} ${y}; done; done; printf '\e[0m\n'; done
23:57:55 <gammafunk> ??black_magic[3
23:57:56 <Sequell> black magic[3/6]: SHUFFLE: qS?tViwYJzOl / tViwYJzOKqS? / wYJzOKqS?tVi / zOKqS?tViwY, y&KpRmsUHvXj / vXjy&KpRmsUH / sUHvXjy&KpRm / pRmsUHvXjy&K, SMViYJOK / MSiVJYKO, &KRmUHXj / K&mRHUjX, QmThWIZk / mQhTIWkZ
23:59:18 <Alcon> :)
23:59:39 <Alcon> Hey... I found a code change from CanOfWorms...
23:59:43 <Alcon> acquire.cc