00:10:10 <Eksell> Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.22-a0-417-g1387785 (34)
00:53:21 <muffindrake> I'm still unable to login to tavern
00:53:25 <muffindrake> after some days passed
01:24:46 <Gretell> Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.22-a0-417-g1387785 (34)
01:56:53 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.22-a0-417-g1387785
02:53:28 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.22-a0-417-g1387785
03:15:28 <Rotatell> Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.22-a0-417-g1387785 (34)
09:49:38 <advil> man, I've worked with many challenging bits of crawlcode but the code for what happens when you see a monster is ... special
10:07:18 <advil> one thing I had no idea of is that the wander ai is special-cased so that a just seen monster will try to spend one turn in your los, even if that's not what their current movement target would have them do
10:07:41 <advil> even if it can't see you
10:17:43 <Cheibriados> New branch created: pull/760 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/760
10:17:43 <Cheibriados> 03NormalPerson702 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/760 * 0.22-a0-418-ga483067: Escape the | character in crawl-manual.rst to fix some formatting 10(81 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a483067e3af0
10:22:57 <Cheibriados> 03NormalPerson702 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/760 * 0.22-a0-419-g59d816f: Remove some obsolete references to rods 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/59d816f15bc8
10:27:36 <advil> I wonder what "Not reentrant." in a comment means, presumably nothing in crawl can be assumed to be reentrant
10:28:14 <advil> maybe it's a warning about recursion
11:28:57 <ebering> unfortunate ghost on cjr that I've run into
11:29:09 <ebering> tho the cjr admins seem pretty mia these days
13:11:47 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.22-a0-417-g1387785 (34)
13:18:33 <aidanh> well, at least it's specific, unlike the majority of crawlcode
14:39:43 <Cheibriados> Molten Gargoyles untargetable by LRD 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11471 by DeliriousApe
15:32:47 -!- nikheize1 is now known as nikheizen
16:35:28 -!- harry is now known as Guest94380
18:20:42 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.22-a0-417-g1387785b41 (34)
18:49:56 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.22-a0-418-gae1bc95: Handle just seen monsters better, especially fast ones (791) 10(39 minutes ago, 4 files, 41+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ae1bc95d447d
18:52:55 <advil> I'll be interested to see what weird consequences that change has
18:54:03 <hellmonk> digging the last sentence of that commit message
18:54:28 <advil> I think there's a reason that was the oldest open bug still marked as "new"
18:55:28 <advil> well, longest un-updated, there are a few older things in there
18:56:20 <advil> in fact it was the 11th oldest bug
19:09:45 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.22-a0-418-gae1bc95d44 (34)
19:15:34 <advil> anyone have opinions about the idea of making nets always mulch?
19:16:18 <Pinkbeast> It would be vexing to never get to use one after having it chucked at you
19:16:40 <hellmonk> can you make other ammo always mulch first
19:19:39 <advil> we can't all be hellcrawl
19:21:32 <gammafunk> advil: nice commit, that behaviour has vexed people a lot
19:21:34 <advil> well, we'll see if I really got it
19:21:56 <advil> but optimistic thanks :)
19:22:35 <Pinkbeast> advil: Oooh, yes, that one's maddening
19:22:47 <gammafunk> way back when I spent absolutely hours on fixing the drawing code related to invis monsters and how they get the sensed monster glyph displayed, trying to simplify cases and make nice consistent behaviour
19:22:58 <gammafunk> all so I could implement monsters blinding players, which MPA rejected :)
19:23:09 <gammafunk> but this vaguely reminds me of that for some reason
19:23:24 <gammafunk> octopode crushers were going to have dazzling spray, you see
19:23:56 <dds_> draconian breath attacks should show their range right? currently in the abilities menu description they don't
19:23:57 <gammafunk> the invis simplification stuff did remain, at least
19:26:47 <gammafunk> %git 4a7354f52
19:26:47 <Cheibriados> 07gammafunk02 * 0.14-a0-3090-g4a7354f: Fix various issues with invisible monster indicators. 10(4 years, 2 months ago, 8 files, 212+ 74-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4a7354f52e5f
19:26:58 <gammafunk> I'm kind of afraid to go back and read this commit now
19:27:03 <gammafunk> and maybe find problems I introduced
19:55:44 <advil> heh
19:57:08 <advil> player blinding would suck
19:57:33 <advil> I guess nethack has it, too
19:58:12 <advil> apparently there's even a conduct around it, which sounds horrible
20:01:30 <Pinkbeast> Zen samurai, originally
20:01:34 <advil> hm, getting some random travis crashes
20:01:58 <Pinkbeast> Telepathy and warning mean Zen samurai isn't too bad, apparently, once you're over the initial hump
20:09:41 <advil> I'm going to have to revert this and look at it later
20:10:54 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.22-a0-419-g492bfec: Revert "Handle just seen monsters better, especially fast ones (791)" 10(34 seconds ago, 4 files, 4+ 41-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/492bfec93232
20:11:52 <gammafunk> oh no
20:12:21 <gammafunk> !pr 791
20:12:22 <Sequell> https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/791
20:12:34 <gammafunk> oh, is that a bug number?
20:12:37 <gammafunk> !bug 791
20:12:37 <Sequell> https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=791
20:12:39 <advil> haha yep
20:12:43 <gammafunk> dang, nice
20:12:45 <gammafunk> ancient bug
20:12:46 <advil> I even preemptively closed it
20:12:51 <lobf> hey guys
20:12:53 <advil> well I'll look at this later tonight
20:12:59 <lobf> i recently reinstalled everything on my computer
20:13:08 <lobf> i backed up my morgue, but my high scores list is blank
20:13:21 <gammafunk> those don't come from morgues lobf
20:13:27 <gammafunk> they come from...
20:13:28 <lobf> oh noo
20:14:05 <gammafunk> saves/scores
20:17:31 <lobf> curses
20:17:40 <lobf> i might have backed up my saves folder
20:17:54 <lobf> i did!
20:19:41 <lobf> cool thanks
20:31:05 -!- fmul_ is now known as fmul
20:39:14 <MarvinPA_> advil: making nets always mulch would be good imo, especially for net traps it's a longstanding thing on my todo list
20:39:29 <MarvinPA_> for like, the one place where net traps are still a thing i guess
20:53:46 <gammafunk> MarvinPA_: since you're here, another question: how do you feel about removing the ability for LRD to actually break walls?
20:53:53 <gammafunk> and leave that behaviour to shatter
20:54:56 <gammafunk> you could allow LRD to continue to work on rock, I suppose, and just not allow it to break rock/metal, as a kind of compromise
20:57:26 <MarvinPA_> oh that sounds good yeah, maybe better to not dig rock either since lrd already has a lot of complicated behaviour
21:00:46 <MarvinPA_> i'm against reliable/infinite digging in general! but removing the wand would require checking a ton of vaults so that's another thing i've delayed thinking about for ages
21:01:06 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA
21:07:54 <travis-ci> The build was fixed. (master - 492bfec #9641 : advil): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/378988500
21:09:46 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.22-a0-419-g492bfec932 (34)
23:59:23 <Eksell> Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.22-a0-419-g492bfec (34)