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17:38:49 <gammafunk> advil: Do you happen to remember a summary of your research into why transporter vaults like gammafunk_abyss_rune_reverse_zot sometimes have their entrance transporters removed?
17:39:13 <gammafunk> specifically if there was anything likely we could do about that, or at least something to look into
17:40:25 <advil> in the end the bug I found was that vaults from the source level were getting pulled into the abyss and the transporter destination didn't get cleared properly; there are a few cases where there are similar transporter vaults in abyss vs non-abyss, so it can make it look like something happened to an abyss vault
17:41:08 <advil> I fixed that bug, I think
17:41:21 <gammafunk> ok, so that shouldn't be the cause of these instances where that vault I mentioned is found with no entrance transporter?
17:41:32 <gammafunk> because that's still happening reasonably often based on reports I recieve
17:41:37 <gammafunk> and TVs I watch
17:41:38 <advil> I never was able to replicate anything else, though there was *one* instance that I saw that didn't seem to be explainable by the above
17:41:57 <gammafunk> so the first step would be to duplicated it reliably then
17:42:00 <advil> well the bug manifested as no source but not destination, but that shouldn't be happening any more
17:42:01 <gammafunk> *duplicate
17:42:06 <advil> yeah
17:42:13 <advil> also vortexes can easily accomplish this
17:42:18 <advil> but I guess that's not a bug
17:42:25 <gammafunk> hrm, but vortexes shouldn't destroy transporters, no?
17:42:29 <gammafunk> I would say they should not
17:42:32 <advil> oh, maybe they just mess up the walls
17:42:39 <gammafunk> I thought they only mess with solid features, yeah
17:42:46 <gammafunk> which transporter sites aren't
17:43:04 <gammafunk> I guess they're technicaly spatial maelstroms
17:45:06 <gammafunk> maybe I can figure out what the likely terrain changing function is and set a gdb watch for changing from transporter
17:45:40 <advil> heh, good luck with that
17:46:01 <advil> can you get more screenshots?
17:46:06 <advil> or saves, ideally
17:47:02 <gammafunk> yeah I will ask the next person who reports it to make a save, good idea
17:47:28 <gammafunk> but I *should* be able to catch in gdb...
17:49:40 <advil> I was using output debugging but I tried basically the same thing, just could never get it to manifest while trying
17:49:54 <advil> but there are a lot of ways that the abyss can change terrain
17:50:20 <advil> in the reports is there an empty arch?
17:51:24 <advil> bbl
17:51:45 <gammafunk> in the ttyrec I saw recently it looked like it was just gone
17:53:05 <gammafunk> !tell advil Here's a TV where I think the transporter is deleted, you can see it after they teleport, where they land in an "upper lung" of the vault and move to the entry chamber: !lg * map=gammafunk_abyss_rune_reverse_zot -tv:<2 84
17:53:06 <Sequell> gammafunk: OK, I'll let advil know.
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21:13:36 <advil> !lg * map=gammafunk_abyss_rune_reverse_zot -tv:<2 84
21:13:36 <Sequell> advil: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it.
21:13:36 <Sequell> 84. G9G3, XL22 VSFi, T:39234 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org.
21:27:24 <advil> what's the vault name?
21:27:30 <advil> oh duh
21:27:34 <advil> I guess it's in the query
21:28:05 <gammafunk> yeah, there's that and the abyss stair vault, gammafunk_abyss_x_factor
21:28:06 <gammafunk> I think
21:28:12 <gammafunk> !lg * map~~x_factor x=map
21:28:14 <Sequell> 6. [map=gammafunk_abyss_exit_x_factor] dolapius the Arsonist (L10 DrFE of Vehumet), blasted by a tentacled starspawn (exploding inner flame) (hexed by the player character) on Abyss:2 (gammafunk_abyss_exit_x_factor) on 2017-12-15 01:57:56, with 4216 points after 10606 turns and 0:48:39.
21:28:22 <gammafunk> ah, _abyss_exit_x_factor
21:28:34 <gammafunk> but the reports are usually from the reverse zot one
21:28:39 <advil> ah
21:28:46 <advil> I was doing all my testing before with x factor
21:29:32 <advil> right after the tele there was some odd wall shifting, and I wonder if it might actually have been fog from some source...footv shows fog as a #
21:29:46 <gammafunk> yeah that can be confusing
21:29:54 <gammafunk> you can download the ttyrec and watch in a local player to be sure
21:30:07 <gammafunk> but footv renders clouds with # which can be ambiguous