00:01:09 <Eksell> Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.22-a0-240-g539252a (34)
00:16:06 <rangerofthewest> The vault editor is coming along nicely
00:20:23 <rangerofthewest> kprops are working
00:20:23 <rangerofthewest> yay
00:22:40 <amalloy> rangerofthewest: what are you doing about SHUFFLE and SUBST and stuff?
00:22:55 <rangerofthewest> amalloy - Shuffle is incorporated in the current web build
00:23:02 <rangerofthewest> under transforms
00:23:14 <rangerofthewest> you can add a shuffle transform, and then add subgroups
00:24:45 <rangerofthewest> KProp, KMons, and KItem will also be included under transforms. KFeat is built into a placeable glyph
00:24:57 <rangerofthewest> NSubst and Subst will also be under transforms
00:26:03 <amalloy> sounds cool. i look forward to a demo to play around with
00:26:29 <rangerofthewest> It's available online
00:26:37 <rangerofthewest> crawlerofthewest.github.io/vault/
00:26:37 <amalloy> where?
00:27:15 <rangerofthewest> amalloy - the only thing you should be aware about is that none of the tags under Tags #2 work
00:31:20 <amalloy> pretty cool. i can see this lowering the barrier to entry for novice vault builders
00:31:27 <amalloy> (assuming they are tiles players, of course)
00:32:22 <rangerofthewest> I'll look into adding a proper glyphs version later on
00:32:33 <rangerofthewest> which should be *relatively* easy
00:33:07 <rangerofthewest> But yeah, pretty much all of the non-lua syntax will be encompassed by this vault editor
00:37:30 <rangerofthewest> amalloy - here's the sample functionality for KProp + Shuffle https://imgur.com/a/TN4RH
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01:13:34 <rangerofthewest> woo
01:13:36 <rangerofthewest> KPROP is working
01:14:36 <rangerofthewest> ??vaultedit
01:14:36 <Sequell> vaultedit[1/2]: Vault editing tool originally by nooodl, now hosted and developed by rangerofthewest: https://crawlerofthewest.github.io/vault/
01:24:21 <rangerofthewest> Ehh, I'll work on b9 tomorrow. b9 will *hopefully* see KMASK at least, with Subst and Clear at least started
01:25:20 <Gretell> Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.22-a0-240-g539252a (34)
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01:58:33 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.22-a0-240-g539252a
02:54:45 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.22-a0-240-g539252a
03:12:21 <Rotatell> Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.22-a0-240-g539252a (34)
03:13:39 <aidanh> !tell amalloy that's what I was thinking of; I don't think _ is all that intuitive though.. I'd probably prefer F1
03:13:40 <Sequell> aidanh: OK, I'll let amalloy know.
03:14:18 <amalloy> i mean you can bind it to F1 too if you want. but i don't think a function key is a good primary keybind for anything
03:14:18 <Sequell> amalloy: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it.
03:15:07 <amalloy> they're hard to type on a lot of keyboards (laptops, macs). do they make it through SSH connections okay? i've never tried
03:19:34 <aidanh> those are good points; I was mostly thinking about F1 being a common shortcut for help on win at least, although mac may have something else
03:22:15 <amalloy> apparently the macos standard is cmd+?
03:23:10 <aidanh> webtiles would need to have a platform-agnostic key in any case
03:25:03 <amalloy> aidanh: as long as you don't try to add a new keybind to the main screen, we have a lot of available keys on menu screens
03:25:31 <amalloy> you could make it ^H probably
03:28:33 <aidanh> what about alt-H?
03:29:48 <aidanh> that seems to be unmapped everywhere, so it could be consistently used
03:30:51 <CanOfWorms> hmm
03:31:05 <aidanh> ^H is slightly preferable, but on the main view it's bound to swing-left, and it'd be much nicer to have everything use the same help key
03:31:08 <amalloy> do we support alt keys?
03:32:19 <CanOfWorms> the guide for arrival vaults says the dungeon builder removes monsters from LOS, but I just started a game with a kobold 3W in my LOS
03:32:21 <TZer0> !messages
03:32:21 <Sequell> No messages for TZer0.
03:32:43 <amalloy> 3W?
03:33:26 <CanOfWorms> https://puu.sh/zsrcS/8b9b6b41cd.png
03:33:39 <CanOfWorms> to the left of the left statue
03:35:01 <CanOfWorms> https://puu.sh/zsrkJ/53f220cd7c.png this one I got by regenerating D:1 in wizmode
03:36:27 <amalloy> to the left of the left statue? i just see an empty square. am i that bad at tiles?
03:36:45 <CanOfWorms> it was dead when I took the picture
03:37:22 <amalloy> i agree with you that's not something that's supposed to happen
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12:05:25 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.22-a0-240-g539252a (34)
13:18:30 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07* 0.22-a0-241-g1f6c355: De-dup memorise menu paging text for local tiles 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 6+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1f6c355cf7bc
13:18:30 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07* 0.22-a0-242-g4884353: Fix memorise menu heading glitch 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4884353f3188
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13:49:20 <aidanh> |amethyst: so effectively, non-game_data webserver/ stuff is append-only, in order to keep backwards compatibility?
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14:09:43 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.22-a0-242-g4884353f31 (34)
14:49:04 <amalloy> survey: is "The +11 broad axe of Trog's No More Talking" a good name for a randart? it showed up on reddit overnight, and it made me notice some ungrammatical randart names we can generate. some of them just look bad so i'm going to fix them, but i'm not sure if i should fix this one: it's just barely ungrammatical and also rather Troggy
14:52:55 <MarvinPA_> it's not trog-specific though
14:53:21 <MarvinPA_> i think that was added in the recent patch which kinda has a bunch of not great entries, i would remove that one for sure
14:54:20 <amalloy> MarvinPA_: right, i was going to arrange that the "Trog's _foo_" entry doesn't include things that don't make sense when possessive
14:57:40 <amalloy> maybe it's better to just move it to _joke_weapon_name_ instead of trying to correctly qualify ways it can fit into non-joke names
14:59:28 <MarvinPA_> i don't know that it's an especially good joke name either but yeah i definitely don't think it should stick around in the regular handling, likewise most of these new ones in _conflict_name_ and _anger_name_
15:00:37 <amalloy> MarvinPA_: i don't think it's hilarious either, but reddit seemed to like it, suggesting it may indeed be a good joke name
15:01:09 <amalloy> %git 52ebc147edeec81038d104700371739f9926eb6c
15:01:09 <Cheibriados> 07hellmonk02 {PleasingFungus} * 0.20-a0-52-g52ebc14: Add some randart names 10(1 year, 5 months ago, 2 files, 89+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/52ebc147edee
15:01:13 <MarvinPA_> i don't know that i would agree that reddit liking a thing suggests that!
15:06:57 <amalloy> i guess i shouldn't be surprised that we have comments in rand_wpn.txt from 10 years ago, simply reading "akrasiac patch", as if that were useful
15:13:40 <gammafunk> if tavern also likes it then it for sure needs to go
15:14:56 <gammafunk> I've never been a fan of just randomly throwing in a bunch of "current memes" for jokes, but I'm sure we didn't realy have standards for things like this in versions before I was around
15:16:16 <gammafunk> not to imply that my being around had anything to do with it, but what I'm saying is I'm not sure if there were ever standards for what's a good joke to include
15:30:07 <ProzacElf> i think randomly ungrammatical is fine for trog
15:30:15 <ProzacElf> but i've seen some others that look pretty awkward
15:37:34 <Cheibriados> 03amalloy02 07* 0.22-a0-243-g66ef5e3: We should at least spell our silly words correctly 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/66ef5e3ed030
15:37:34 <Cheibriados> 03amalloy02 07* 0.22-a0-244-g58d4f8e: Move one particularly silly weapon name to the jokes section 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/58d4f8e53464
15:37:34 <Cheibriados> 03amalloy02 07* 0.22-a0-245-g6acd07a: Fix up a number of comments in randart naming code 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 12-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6acd07ab377d
15:37:34 <Cheibriados> 03amalloy02 07* 0.22-a0-246-gdc04c06: Prevent generating some grammatically incorrect randart names 10(3 minutes ago, 3 files, 13+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dc04c06d568d
16:09:42 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.22-a0-246-gdc04c06d56 (34)
16:44:27 <amalloy> is there no way to get to the contents of ??rcfile in-game? i would have expected it to be linked to from the ? screen somewhere
16:46:42 <amalloy> ah, found it. ?&
18:17:39 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.22-a0-246-gdc04c06d56 (34)
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20:16:17 <rangerofthewest> KMask is the next feature to add
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23:59:32 <Eksell> Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.22-a0-246-gdc04c06 (34)