00:01:06 <Eksell> Stable (0.21) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.21.0-25-ge575cb9
00:34:25 -!- yesno_ is now known as yesno
00:40:16 <johnstein> !tell gammafunk here's what I whipped up tonight (the usual). 0.21: https://i.imgur.com/5LPH2Mw.png 0.21 vs 0.20: https://i.imgur.com/pk9I0nw.png 0.21 vs 0.19 (winter tournies) https://i.imgur.com/scTIRnX.png album: https://imgur.com/a/WcJvc
00:40:17 <Sequell> johnstein: OK, I'll let gammafunk know.
00:50:49 <gammafunk> oh, thanks johnstein
00:50:50 <Sequell> gammafunk: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it.
00:51:31 <johnstein> actually didn't take too long. I should find a way to automate it
00:51:49 <johnstein> there's probably some neater stats someone smarter could glean from it
00:52:20 <johnstein> interesting that there was nearly identical number of players compared to last winter. but the winrate was a lot higher (but really similar to 0.20)
00:53:42 <gammafunk> yeah, games/players/time was only slightly higher compared to last winter
00:54:00 <gammafunk> but the scheduling of this one was so different I was worried there'd be markedly less participation
00:54:09 <gammafunk> but that turned out not to happen, so that's great
00:54:11 <gammafunk> !tstats
00:54:15 <gammafunk> !tstats t0.19
00:54:34 <Sequell> Stats after 16 days (t): 3154 players, 1143 runers, 594 winners, 1877 wins, 77988 games, winrate 2.41%, total player time 4y+261d+10:25:31.
00:54:39 <Sequell> Stats after t0.19 days (t): 0 players, 0 runers, 0 winners, 0 wins, 0 games, winrate NaN, total player time 0.
00:54:53 <gammafunk> !tstats 16 t0.19
00:56:00 <Sequell> Stats after 16 days (t0.19): 3159 players, 1014 runers, 528 winners, 1423 wins, 79391 games, winrate 1.79%, total player time 4y+129d+8:36:16.
00:56:34 <gammafunk> looks like the games decreased a bit at the end compared to 0.19
00:56:44 <gammafunk> it was ahead in 0.21 in all those categories some days ago
00:56:51 <gammafunk> but I see playtime is still higher in 0.21
00:57:38 <gammafunk> the winrate bump is not so much between 0.21 and 0.19, but 0.20 and 0.19, yeah
00:57:45 <gammafunk> that's where the bump happened
00:58:25 <johnstein> I thought there was going to be a winrate drop this time
00:58:51 <johnstein> things seemed a bit harder to me in early/mid D.
00:58:57 <johnstein> lot more red fonted monsters
00:59:07 <wheals> hasn't been a drop in a pretty long while
00:59:08 <gammafunk> yeah, we didn't really change much that would make it a lot harder early on
00:59:16 <gammafunk> the spawn/generate-awake changes would be the only thing
00:59:19 <johnstein> yea
00:59:42 <johnstein> !tstats --as
00:59:46 <Sequell> Stats after --as days (t): 0 players, 0 runers, 0 winners, 0 wins, 0 games, winrate NaN, total player time 0.
00:59:54 <johnstein> !tstats 16 --as
00:59:59 <Sequell> Stats after 16 days (--as): 6 players, 0 runers, 0 winners, 0 wins, 22 games, winrate 0.00%, total player time 17:48:17.
01:00:02 <johnstein> doh
01:00:11 <johnstein> !tstats 16 t --as
01:00:18 <Sequell> Stats after 16 days (t --as): 428 players, 71 runers, 46 winners, 46 wins, 1832 games, winrate 2.51%, total player time 37d+3:35:47.
01:00:26 <johnstein> !tstats 16 t0.20 --as
01:01:01 <johnstein> wondering if more non-awake monsters affected stabbers more
01:01:27 <Sequell> Stats after 16 days (t0.20 --as): 476 players, 68 runers, 43 winners, 46 wins, 1876 games, winrate 2.45%, total player time 40d+9:45:51.
01:05:59 <Gretell> Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.21.0-25-ge575cb9 (34)
01:07:28 -!- n1 is now known as n|
01:08:18 -!- n| is now known as n1
01:25:19 <Gretell> Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.22-a0-91-g23542c2 (34)
02:00:30 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.22-a0-91-g23542c2
02:36:54 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
02:40:46 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
02:56:05 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.22-a0-91-g23542c2
03:11:19 <Rotatell> Stable (0.21) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.21.0-25-ge575cb9
03:13:17 <Rotatell> Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.22-a0-91-g23542c2 (34)
03:50:55 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
09:12:42 <advil> !cmd !tstats
09:12:42 <Sequell> Command: !tstats => .echo $(let (arg1 ${1:-16} arg2 ${*:-t}) (let (t (concat $arg2 " !@bot " end<$(+ (stamptime (!lg * $arg2 1 fmt:"$end")) $arg1))) "Stats after $arg1 days $(concat '(' $arg2 ')'): $(=tstats.players $t), $(=tstats.runers $t), $(=tstats.winners $t), $(=tstats.wins $t), $(=tstats.games $t), $(=tstats.winrate $t), $(=tstats.playertime $t)."))
09:12:56 <advil> !cmd =tstats.games
09:12:56 <Sequell> Command: =tstats.games => .echo $(!lg * $* !boring fmt:"$n" stub: "0") games
09:13:02 <advil> !lg * t
09:13:03 <Sequell> 83707. BecksGhost the Hoplite (L22 GrFi of Makhleb), blasted by a quicksilver dragon (bolt of dispelling energy) on Zot:5 (hall_of_Zot) on 2018-01-21 19:59:38, with 385768 points after 42570 turns and 2:18:05.
09:13:08 <advil> !lg * t !boring
09:13:10 <Sequell> 78049. BecksGhost the Hoplite (L22 GrFi of Makhleb), blasted by a quicksilver dragon (bolt of dispelling energy) on Zot:5 (hall_of_Zot) on 2018-01-21 19:59:38, with 385768 points after 42570 turns and 2:18:05.
09:13:20 <advil> 5k boring games??
09:13:24 <advil> !kw boring
09:13:25 <Sequell> Keyword: boring => quitting|leaving|wizmode
09:13:32 <advil> !lg * t boring
09:13:34 <Sequell> 5658. pokedragonboy the Scratcher (L2 FeTm), quit the game on D:1 on 2018-01-21 19:56:19, with 14 points after 474 turns and 0:01:03.
09:13:44 <advil> !lg * t boring s=ktyp
09:13:46 <Sequell> 5658 games for * (t boring): 4189x quitting, 1468x leaving, wizmode
09:14:36 <advil> that's so many it seems maybe weird to exclude them from stats, it noticeably changes winrate for example
09:14:50 <advil> !lg * t0.19 boring
09:14:54 <Sequell> 6034. SirKenneth the Chopper (L3 DsGl), quit the game on D:2 on 2016-11-20 19:53:26, with 67 points after 1161 turns and 0:01:57.
09:15:17 <advil> I guess for comparison purposes they've never been included, though
09:18:55 <advil> !lg * t0.17|t0.18|t0.19|t0.20|t boring s=cv
09:19:04 <Sequell> 29581 games for * (((t0.17 || t0.18 || t0.19 || t0.20 || t)) boring): 6721x 0.18, 5941x 0.19, 5710x 0.17, 4898x 0.20, 4565x 0.21, 1093x 0.21-a, 428x 0.17-a, 132x 0.20-a, 93x 0.19-a
09:19:06 <advil> !lg * t0.17|t0.18|t0.19|t0.20|t s=cv / boring
09:19:25 <Sequell> 29581/413913 games for * (t0.17 || t0.18 || t0.19 || t0.20 || t): 6721/75764x 0.18 [8.87%], 5941/85238x 0.19 [6.97%], 5710/83382x 0.17 [6.85%], 4898/77819x 0.20 [6.29%], 4565/73246x 0.21 [6.23%], 1093/10461x 0.21-a [10.45%], 428/4615x 0.17-a [9.27%], 132/2546x 0.20-a [5.18%], 93/842x 0.19-a [11.05%]
09:24:14 <wheals> 0.18 the most boring crawl in recent history
09:26:22 <advil> also, apparently, -a server correlates with startscumming or something?
09:26:46 <advil> maybe people quit when that server finally gets updated
09:28:08 <advil> did we ever figure out what caused the 0.20 winrate bump?
09:28:21 <advil> it seems to be real-ish
10:03:58 <TZer0> Okay, since the tournament is over and I can do maintenance again, expect my server to go down because of meltdown-patching today
10:04:25 <TZer0> I figured Meltdown isn't a critical thing to fix on a server that can't be easily made to execute arbitrary code (unlike a browser)
10:05:10 <TZer0> Or it might happen tomorrow.
10:10:28 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[spooky_vaults] * 0.22-a0-92-gc3ce337: Allow ghosts built from bones files to be placed in vaults 10(4 weeks ago, 7 files, 119+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c3ce3370091a
10:10:28 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[spooky_vaults] * 0.22-a0-93-gdb676c0: Add some ghost mini-vaults that will place in Vaults 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 36+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/db676c0760e1
10:10:28 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[spooky_vaults] * 0.22-a0-94-g43bbfc8: Add a description line for mirrored player ghosts 10(4 weeks ago, 5 files, 9+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/43bbfc860fa4
10:10:28 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[spooky_vaults] * 0.22-a0-95-gc0456f7: Add a permanent store for some fallback ghosts 10(4 weeks ago, 3 files, 197+ 99-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c0456f755fc2
10:10:28 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[spooky_vaults] * 0.22-a0-96-g81b5491: Don't use permastore when rewriting on level veto 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/81b549126d08
10:10:28 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[spooky_vaults] * 0.22-a0-97-gf054660: Tweak ghost vault generation rates 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 6+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f054660ee4a7
10:10:28 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[spooky_vaults] * 0.22-a0-98-ga6ba06e: Don't spawn randomly-placed ghosts on level generation 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a6ba06e6d133
10:10:28 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[spooky_vaults] * 0.22-a0-99-gfe92afb: Let ghosts use stairs 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fe92afb345a4
10:10:28 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[spooky_vaults] * 0.22-a0-100-gc5ee91d: Use CHANCE rather than WEIGHT for non-Vaults ghost vaults 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c5ee91dc33e8
10:42:13 <Cheibriados> New branch created: pull/700 (9 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/700
10:42:13 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/700 * 0.22-a0-92-gc3ce337: Allow ghosts built from bones files to be placed in vaults 10(4 weeks ago, 7 files, 119+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c3ce3370091a
10:42:13 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/700 * 0.22-a0-93-gdb676c0: Add some ghost mini-vaults that will place in Vaults 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 36+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/db676c0760e1
10:42:13 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/700 * 0.22-a0-94-g43bbfc8: Add a description line for mirrored player ghosts 10(4 weeks ago, 5 files, 9+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/43bbfc860fa4
10:42:13 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/700 * 0.22-a0-95-gc0456f7: Add a permanent store for some fallback ghosts 10(4 weeks ago, 3 files, 197+ 99-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c0456f755fc2
10:42:13 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/700 * 0.22-a0-96-g81b5491: Don't use permastore when rewriting on level veto 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/81b549126d08
10:42:13 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/700 * 0.22-a0-97-gf054660: Tweak ghost vault generation rates 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 6+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f054660ee4a7
10:42:13 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/700 * 0.22-a0-98-ga6ba06e: Don't spawn randomly-placed ghosts on level generation 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a6ba06e6d133
10:42:13 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/700 * 0.22-a0-99-gfe92afb: Let ghosts use stairs 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fe92afb345a4
10:42:13 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/700 * 0.22-a0-100-gc5ee91d: Use CHANCE rather than WEIGHT for non-Vaults ghost vaults 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c5ee91dc33e8
10:58:10 <travis-ci> The build has errored. (spooky_vaults - c5ee91d #9227 : advil): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/331854007
11:20:54 <advil> hmm...why do we have travis installing sdl stuff at all?
11:21:01 <advil> are there some dependencies of sdl that it needs to get?
11:24:19 <advil> incidentally the thing that is causing so many errored builds lately appears to be https://github.com/travis-ci/travis-ci/issues/8317
11:24:45 <aidanh> TZer0: well, a crawl player could potentially exploit meltdown from lua in their rc file
11:30:27 <wheals> i remember something about needing to install sdl2 stuff manually on travis because the correct packages aren't on the whitelist
11:41:33 <Cheibriados> New branch created: travis-test (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/travis-test
11:41:33 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07[travis-test] * 0.22-a0-92-gc06e8b5: Testing out some travis stuff 10(2 minutes ago, 2 files, 22+ 22-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c06e8b54d6b1
11:54:32 <advil> maybe I misunderstood what travis is even doing
11:55:08 <advil> it just doesn't use submodules, I guess
11:55:23 <advil> well, our travis setup, not travis in general
12:02:17 <Henzell> Stable (0.21) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.21.0-25-ge575cb9
12:06:43 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.22-a0-91-g23542c2 (34)
12:11:02 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
12:12:20 -!- PsyMar2 is now known as PsyMar
12:18:16 <Lantell> Stable (0.21) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.21.0-25-ge575cb9ce8
14:04:33 <Cheibriados> Swamp walls do not properly change tile when Shattered 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11362 by Malevolent
14:49:39 <johnstein> advil I like your ghost ideas
14:50:09 <johnstein> sounds like it could enable placing ghosts in normal vaults
14:50:15 <johnstein> err
14:50:25 <johnstein> being able to design vaults with ghosts in mind
14:50:31 <advil> thanks
14:50:34 <advil> yes, it could
14:51:00 <johnstein> I'll work on post-tourney server stuff to get back to experimentals
14:51:17 <advil> yeah, it might be worth putting up as an experimental first
14:52:13 <johnstein> I saw "let ghosts use stairs" and tapped the link extra firmly to express my frustration at such an obvious mistake in dev direction
14:52:13 <advil> haha
14:52:15 <johnstein> but was pleasantly surprised!
14:52:39 <advil> though having thought about that a bit more, if we do it as an experimental it might be best to seed it with ghosts since experimentals don't draw as many players
14:53:19 <advil> I'm pretty sure a plain "let ghosts use stairs" commit would be less popular than Md removal
14:53:29 <advil> MD
14:54:04 <gammafunk> Doctor Dwarf, MD.
14:54:20 <gammafunk> is there an overal value for ghost rate in the spooky branch?
14:54:31 <gammafunk> *overall
14:56:00 <advil> outside of vaults it's using CHANCE: 25%
14:56:11 <advil> previous it was 33%
14:57:02 <advil> in vaults I couldn't figure out how to use CHANCE (I think it can't be used?), but I tweaked the weights with mapstat until it was in the 25-30% neightborhood
14:57:55 <gammafunk> how do you mean in vaults?
14:58:00 <gammafunk> in the Vaults branch?
14:58:06 <advil> yeah
14:58:16 <gammafunk> oh yeah, you might need to directly tweak the layout in some way
14:58:23 <gammafunk> maybe I could figure that out at some point
14:58:42 <johnstein> the idea is that ALL ghosts would be confined to sealed vaults, right?
14:59:00 <gammafunk> yeah, you have to open them in order to release/fight the ghost
14:59:11 <advil> the two Vaults vaults I wrote are here: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/spooky_vaults/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/ghost.des#L44
14:59:32 <advil> one for vaults_room and one for vaults_hard
14:59:54 <gammafunk> yeah we'll probably nix that aquire any item
15:00:00 <advil> heh
15:00:06 <advil> yeah I think they drop too much loot
15:00:09 <gammafunk> just put a superb item (the |) glyph
15:00:10 <johnstein> advil: wonder if I could copy/paste bones files directly on the server to seed it?
15:00:19 <gammafunk> well I think conditioning loot by depth would be fine
15:00:31 <gammafunk> early on the xp is so valuable, later they could give some nice loot
15:00:53 <advil> ah, yeah right now there's not a lot of depth differentiation
15:00:58 <advil> johnstein: yes, I think so, but let me think about how best to do that
15:01:05 <advil> there's a new bones mechanism in this branch
15:01:09 <gammafunk> if 1/3 of all levels have these so we obv don't want to go crazy there
15:01:35 <gammafunk> could certainly have some fun making some weird ghost vaults
15:01:55 <advil> yeah definitely...mine are super boring
15:01:58 <gammafunk> let's make all sorts of bizarre ghosts and vaults at once
15:02:11 <gammafunk> then show a big batch of like 50 of them to MarvinPA
15:02:48 <gammafunk> perferably merging them first!
15:02:48 <johnstein> could you tweak the panlord generation code to make ghosts?
15:02:48 <advil> arrival ghost vault full of gold
15:02:56 <gammafunk> yeah ghosts and gold
15:03:08 <hellmonk> put ghost vaults in lab
15:03:10 <hellmonk> imo
15:03:25 <gammafunk> yeah there could be some special branch-specific ghost vaults
15:03:33 <advil> btw I was thinking it might be good to have more specific guidelines along the lines of the feedback MarvinPA provided in that PR in one of the docs. The intro doc already implies what he said about arrival vaults, but it could be state more directly
15:03:34 <gammafunk> not sure how much it would add, but probably some things you could do there
15:03:44 <advil> *stated
15:03:47 <gammafunk> yeah, agree
15:03:55 <gammafunk> it might also be nice to do a pass through arrival vaults
15:04:04 <gammafunk> and try to rework/remove ones that are not really following those
15:04:35 <gammafunk> I talking with malcolm about this and mentioned it could be a good project, but it's something I could just do
15:04:39 <gammafunk> since it's not that much work
15:04:47 <advil> yeah, that's reasonable
15:05:02 <gammafunk> I agree it's nice if we can help prevent people from going through the process of making a vault that's not likely to be accepted
15:05:17 <advil> he seemed a bit disgruntled about the whole thing, did that pass?
15:06:01 <gammafunk> well....we'll have to see, malcolm probably is too fixated on "the process" rather than "the outcome/aim" imo, but he's not unreasonable
15:06:14 <gammafunk> it's true that some people just want to have a lot of creative control over a thing they make
15:06:25 <gammafunk> and a project like this can be tough for said people to work with
15:06:56 <gammafunk> I do agree it's nice if we can prevent people from having to spend much time working on something that's likely to get rejected
15:07:00 <advil> yeah
15:07:25 <advil> step 1, though: don't use the words "meme vault" in your commit message
15:07:30 <gammafunk> yes
15:08:05 <gammafunk> if you had asked me, I wouldn't have had terribly specific standards for what's allowed in an arrival vault
15:08:06 <MarvinPA> there's some guidelines along the lines of what i said in dat/des/arrival/arrival_guide.txt
15:08:21 <advil> oh, I missed that one...but the intro doc also implies what you said
15:08:24 <MarvinPA> but it'd maybe be good to add a bit more detail, and put that stuff more in one place
15:08:33 <hellmonk> butt coin
15:08:50 <gammafunk> yeah, would "no loot or fightable monsters at all" be a good standard to have?
15:08:53 <gammafunk> for arrival vaults
15:09:03 <gammafunk> we have some 'classic' ones that definitely violate this
15:09:06 <advil> MarvinPA: I thought your PR comment was clear and helpful fwiw
15:09:22 <gammafunk> worm in closet, goblins/hobgoblins behind some doors
15:09:43 <gammafunk> there's one with a runed door section but that is not going to harm a player unless they open it
15:10:11 <MarvinPA> gammafunk: yeah, i don't think it necessarily has to be an absolutely hard rule but it's a good start (and we could certainly look through some of the existing arrivals that break it, i'm not very mucn not a fan of the worm behind door example)
15:10:24 <gammafunk> right
15:10:25 <advil> huh...arrival_guide should be in doc/develop/levels imo
15:10:52 <advil> or duplicated there
15:11:06 <advil> the avoid ascii art thing is also explicit
15:11:22 <gammafunk> oh
15:11:28 <gammafunk> the one that spells "crawl" with monsters
15:11:36 <gammafunk> or tries to and maybe even no longer does
15:11:50 <geekosaur> fails pretty badly now that monsters can swap places
15:11:55 <gammafunk> you don't fight those but I think that one is quite lost on over 90% of our player base
15:12:01 <gammafunk> heh, yeah
15:12:23 <advil> also serial_guide.txt
15:12:35 <gammafunk> if they held up little signs in tiles it'd be more acceptable
15:13:34 <advil> I wonder if you could force them to use the glyph tiles
15:13:51 <advil> (not seriously proposing that)
15:15:39 <gammafunk> implement a dynamic glyph mode for tiles where just that vault is in glyph mode
15:15:44 <gammafunk> then it switches to tiles when they exit
15:15:49 <gammafunk> *exit the vault
15:16:36 <Chish> that would remind me of NetHack's Rogue Level
15:17:31 <advil> !vault onia_arrival_zoo_common
15:17:32 <Sequell> 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/arrival/small.des#L2436
15:18:07 <advil> only 10% chance of crawl, anyways
15:18:41 <gammafunk> wow, nice monster list
15:18:45 <gammafunk> no one even tried to update that one for glyph reform
15:18:55 <gammafunk> but then again, it'd be kind of hard to catch unless you knew about it
15:19:01 <gammafunk> ??glyph reform
15:19:01 <Sequell> glyph reform[1/4]: Many monsters were re-glyphed for console players in 0.15. Employed draconians to q; Immobile plants/fungi all to P; Mobile plants/fungi all to f; Tengu to Q; All derived undead to Z; Drakes to k; Non-unique humans to p; Most flying insects to y; Slugs to w; Dwarves to g; ghosts to W.
15:19:14 <gammafunk> I spent like 3 days, maybe more
15:19:30 <gammafunk> probably like a week making a spreadsheet for people to fill in with every monster/glyph/color
15:19:44 -!- Snuva is now known as surr
15:19:50 <gammafunk> and it was all assembled and I say "well now I'll make the patch, should take me a few hours"
15:19:57 <gammafunk> Grunt heard this and goes 'hmm'
15:20:08 <gammafunk> 30 minutes later he merges the commit implementing it all
15:20:19 <gammafunk> I think I was 10% done with the patch
15:20:26 <MarvinPA> i think it was updated later, drakes used to be on the 'l' list there
15:20:50 <MarvinPA> (and someone noticed it being "crawk" possibly)
15:20:53 <gammafunk> yeah, but I see hydra with drakes
15:21:06 <gammafunk> maybe I don't actually understand how this vault is supposed to work
15:21:15 <MarvinPA> it's only meant to spell crawl on the one_chance_in(10)
15:21:32 <gammafunk> otherwise it's just random monsters in a box?
15:21:35 <MarvinPA> the rest of the time it's just random stuff, so i guess the glyphs did get changed around for the second section but it doesn't matter
15:21:36 <MarvinPA> yeah
15:22:30 <gammafunk> I don't like it one bit
15:25:48 <MarvinPA> i think it's cute but also monsters-behind-glass vaults are bad (those would be a good addition to the arrival vaults guidelines imo, even if it's just "please no new ones, we have so many already")
15:27:37 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07[ui-overhaul] * 0.22-a0-92-gf0e3b49: Remove menu.set_maxpagesize interface 10(3 months ago, 7 files, 3+ 38-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f0e3b49341f7
15:27:37 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07[ui-overhaul] * 0.22-a0-93-g9638558: Assert that menus have a valid selection flag 10(3 months ago, 2 files, 19+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/963855836224
15:27:37 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07[ui-overhaul] * 0.22-a0-94-gc7e7ab6: Explicitly set MF_SINGLESELECT on describe menu 10(3 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c7e7ab6c0422
15:27:37 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07[ui-overhaul] * 0.22-a0-95-gec78d18: Remove unused menu.f_drawitem hook 10(3 months ago, 2 files, 2+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ec78d181602a
15:27:37 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07[ui-overhaul] * 0.22-a0-96-g334658c: Remove column_compoer set_pagesize() 10(3 months ago, 4 files, 2+ 20-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/334658cf64c9
15:27:37 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07[ui-overhaul] * 0.22-a0-97-g10197cf: Refactor Menu scrolling into MenuDisplay 10(3 months ago, 7 files, 407+ 317-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/10197cfc438e
15:27:37 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07[ui-overhaul] * 0.22-a0-98-g4517b21: Remove limit on lookup-help results length 10(3 months ago, 1 file, 8+ 17-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4517b218ae67
15:27:37 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07[ui-overhaul] * 0.22-a0-99-g0097b53: 2-col tile menus: wrap horizontally and support line scrolling 10(6 weeks ago, 4 files, 259+ 176-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0097b53b87e7
15:27:37 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07[ui-overhaul] * 0.22-a0-100-g7106859: Remove Menu text-only option 10(4 weeks ago, 10 files, 46+ 89-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/71068599893e
15:27:37 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07[ui-overhaul] * 0.22-a0-101-g1b9c022: Move menu title rendering to mdisplay 10(4 weeks ago, 8 files, 147+ 188-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1b9c0224d0a0
15:27:37 <Cheibriados> ... and 65 more commits
15:32:26 <geekosaur> git-sundheit >.>
15:33:03 <aidanh> hah
15:34:58 <aidanh> advil: i've implemented your menu suggestions, and it works pretty well now
15:35:29 <aidanh> unrelated; is there any reason for the stash tracker menu not to have tiles?
16:07:17 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.22-a0-92-g3374514: Centralize some vault-type-specific guidelines to be easier to find 10(2 minutes ago, 3 files, 100+ 56-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/33745146cc66
16:07:39 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.22-a0-93-g6b88ebb: checkwhite 10(24 seconds ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6b88ebb18f49
16:56:49 <|amethyst> advil:  BTW, for changes like that that don't affect any code or vaults (or you're sure affect comments only), you can use [skip ci] on each commit, and if all the commits in a batch are so marked travis will avoid doing a new build
16:57:19 <|amethyst> advil: (somewhere in the commit description, not necessarily the title)
16:58:01 <|amethyst> also, were there any major bugs in this tournament?  If not, I have my first legitimate t win
17:06:36 <gammafunk> none that we know of
17:06:41 <gammafunk> !won neil t
17:06:42 <Sequell> neil (t) has won once in 68 games (1.47%): 1xMiBe
17:06:48 <gammafunk> !won wheals t
17:06:49 <Sequell> wheals (t) has won twice in 33 games (6.06%): 1xDEWr 1xGnSu
17:07:04 <gammafunk> crawl has just gotten too easy
17:09:47 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.22-a0-93-g6b88ebb18f (34)
17:10:38 <gammafunk> |amethyst: btw would you be able to add 0.21 to CAO scoring? all servers have that installed
17:10:57 <gammafunk> I'm not sure if johnstein can do that
17:13:50 <|amethyst> hm, I had started a scoring run with the new sources several days ago
17:13:56 <|amethyst> but apparently it failed
17:13:59 -!- Krakhan|2 is now known as Krakhan
17:14:02 <|amethyst> Exception: No rows returned for SELECT id FROM streaks WHERE player = %s AND active = 1;
17:16:41 <gammafunk> uh oh
17:18:36 <|amethyst> restarted scoresd.py, let's see if it works this time?
17:18:53 <gammafunk> I will pray to Sif
17:47:59 <aidanh> hm.. refactoring dcss to do most things on a worker thread would be a lot of work, right?
17:48:27 <amalloy> probably? it is an ill-scoped project
17:49:33 <aidanh> I ask because the local tiles build can be unresponsive at times because crawl's busy autotravelling or whatever
17:50:16 <aidanh> I'd just put UI stuff on its own thread, but (of course) opengl usually needs to be accessed from the main thread
18:04:20 <johnstein> gammafunk: I think |amethyst may have explained to me once on how to do that but I've never done it before and actually wouldn't know where to start
18:05:04 <gammafunk> yeah, we had hoped to have a new scoring system in place but alex stopped working on that
18:05:48 <johnstein> !blame Alex
18:05:48 <Sequell> I pronounce Alex... Guilty!
18:06:07 <johnstein> did the tourney post go up yet?
18:06:09 <gammafunk> I oh don't blame him, he put in a bunch of working getting it as far as it got
18:06:29 <gammafunk> it's just projects like that can be kind of dull and/or lose steam if someone stops having time/interest
18:06:34 <gammafunk> hopefully will go up tonight
18:07:40 <johnstein> !blame johnstein
18:07:41 <Sequell> I pronounce johnstein... Guilty!
18:18:09 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.22-a0-93-g6b88ebb18f (34)
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23:59:21 <Eksell> Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.22-a0-93-g6b88ebb (34)