00:09:09 <Mattshark> I only have one question now...
00:09:39 <Mattshark> ...Is there absolutely any way for lua scripts to interact with the webtiles chat?
00:14:34 <Lightli> man remember when there were 5 separate elf species at once? (El, GE, HE, SE, DE)
00:15:44 <Mattshark> Nope, havenpt been around that long
00:15:51 <Mattshark> *haven't
00:16:30 <Lightli> (wait wrong channel dang)
00:18:49 <gammafunk> Mattshark: I don't think so, I think the function key to switch to chat is implemented in the js client
00:20:09 <Mattshark> gammafunk: This really will have to use a bot then...
00:21:04 <Mattshark> And how do you only message one person in IRC without opening a new window again?
00:21:38 <geekosaur> /msg
00:24:48 <Mattshark> gammafunk: I should really be getting to sleep, but thanks again
00:31:49 <Eksell> Stable (0.21) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.21.0-3-g78d12a8
01:18:08 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
01:19:52 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
01:20:20 <Gretell> Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.22-a0-49-g614aadd (34)
02:01:11 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.22-a0-49-g614aadd
02:15:08 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
02:55:11 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.22-a0-49-g614aadd
03:21:45 <Rotatell> Stable (0.21) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.21.0-3-g78d12a8
03:23:30 <Rotatell> Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.22-a0-49-g614aadd (34)
05:59:18 -!- Snuva is now known as surr
07:43:03 <Rotatell> Yoster (L1 DEWz)  (D:1)
07:44:44 <Rotatell> Yoster (L1 DEWz)  (D:1)
07:45:35 <Rotatell> Yoster (L1 DEWz)  (D:1)
07:46:24 <Rotatell> Yoster (L1 DEWz)  (D:1)
07:50:26 <geekosaur> !crashlog
07:50:38 <Sequell> 18644. Yoster, XL1 DEWz, T:161 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/Yoster/crash-Yoster-20180108-124624.txt
07:51:06 <geekosaur> !crashlog -4
07:51:07 <Sequell> No milestones for -4 (crash).
07:51:24 <geekosaur> !crashlog yoster src=cbro -4
07:51:25 <Sequell> 1/4. Yoster, XL1 DEWz, T:161 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/Yoster/crash-Yoster-20180108-124303.txt
07:51:55 <geekosaur> *shrug*
09:45:41 <tarrenn> I crashed on CAO and am now getting the "another game is already in progress using this save"..., is there anything I can do besides wait the 24h?
09:46:30 <tarrenn> Either I have awesome timing, or someone fixed it really quick.  =) Low and behold, I posted my message, and instantly I could get in.
10:11:27 <geekosaur> it's normally like 10m, not 24h
10:14:35 <tarrenn> Turned out to be ~15m or so.  I had been guessing 24h based on googling the error, but those results must have been pretty old.
11:33:36 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07* 0.22-a0-50-g76f3efa: Shorten Trog ability description to fit in one line 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/76f3efaaf52b
12:05:04 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.22-a0-50-g76f3efa (34)
12:09:54 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.22-a0-50-g76f3efaaf5 (34)
12:19:09 <Lantell> Stable (0.21) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.21.0-3-g78d12a8bdd
12:47:55 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
16:29:56 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/667 * 0.22-a0-51-gb4d82c7: Don't show removed spells in ?/s menu (rchandra, #11287) 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b4d82c735bce
16:29:56 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/667 * 0.22-a0-52-ga02bd69: Add consistent background to monster spell tiles 10(4 weeks ago, 2 files, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a02bd69f08ec
16:29:56 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/667 * 0.22-a0-53-g26a26d7: Add generic monster spell tile 10(4 weeks ago, 3 files, 111+ 143-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/26a26d7a0bf4
16:29:56 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/667 * 0.22-a0-54-gbbf0720: Remove redundant spell tiles 10(4 weeks ago, 2 files, 62+ 124-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bbf07206cc12
16:52:29 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07* 0.22-a0-51-g1bb26a1: Fix local tiles resize during yesno and stat gain prompt 10(6 minutes ago, 2 files, 6+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1bb26a12970b
16:58:24 <Napkin> hey gammafunk, everything working? any complains about cdo?
17:09:46 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.22-a0-51-g1bb26a1297 (34)
17:15:33 <gammafunk> Napkin: everything seems ok, all the urls worked and I added it to tourney
17:15:49 <gammafunk> Napkin: did you happen to find any solution for the tavern/mantis registration problem?
17:16:24 <gammafunk> !lm * t cdo
17:16:27 <Sequell> No milestones for * (t cdo).
17:16:36 <gammafunk> I think sequell hasn't been restarted to see its new config
17:16:43 <gammafunk> I added it and cjr and cwz but it doesn't see them
17:16:51 <gammafunk> although let me verify that I did add that to sequell
17:17:24 <gammafunk> yeah, they're added
17:17:29 <gammafunk> I'm going to email snark about that now
17:18:01 <gammafunk> hah
17:18:06 <gammafunk> some nice wordpress spam here
17:18:24 <gammafunk> in response to the tournament/release post
17:18:31 <gammafunk> "A formidable share, I simply given this onto a colleague who was doing a bit evaluation on this. And he the truth is bought me breakfast because I discovered it for him.. smile. So let me reword that: Thnx for the treat! But yeah Thnkx for spending the time to debate this, I really feel strongly about it and love reading more on this topic. If possible, as you grow to be experience, would you
17:18:37 <gammafunk> thoughts updating your blog with more details? It's highly useful for me. Huge thumb up for this weblog post!"
17:18:49 <gammafunk> It's nice how much they enjoyed it
17:21:11 <|amethyst> whoever wrote that should totally go into astrology
17:25:13 <gammafunk> the wordpress moderation filter has caught a number of spam posts recently
18:18:48 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.22-a0-51-g1bb26a1297 (34)
20:37:15 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
21:02:14 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
21:42:27 -!- Krakhan|2 is now known as Krakhan
22:33:51 <CanOfWorms> do we have any policy on user harassment in webtiles?
22:34:49 <CanOfWorms> someone is harassing keipra on webtiles currently
22:35:28 <CanOfWorms> https://pastebin.com/d0HM37sM
22:35:34 <CanOfWorms> there's a log from the player
22:36:01 <CanOfWorms> the harasser's account seems to be made solely for the purpose of trolling, they have no milestones
22:43:31 <gammafunk> CanOfWorms: you can ask the admin for a ban
22:44:30 <gammafunk> we really need to implement basic chat moderation
22:45:51 <CanOfWorms> looks like a game restart bored them for now
22:46:20 <CanOfWorms> account is on CBRO so j ohnstein is the admin for that, right?
22:46:30 <gammafunk> yep
22:47:19 <CanOfWorms> johnstein: see above messages, user GoDrinkBleach is a troll account
22:48:21 <johnstein> ugh
22:49:31 <gammafunk> I agree, ugh
22:50:08 <johnstein> I can ban by changing the password
22:50:40 <johnstein> but what is the best way? I mean he/she can just make new accounts. keeping me busy with finding each one and banning it
22:50:50 <johnstein> I can do an apache ip ban I suppose
22:51:03 <johnstein> I'll have to futz around with the webtiles log
22:51:13 <gammafunk> yeah, IP ban is probably the best way if you want to ban them, I assume
22:51:20 <gammafunk> |amethyst may have much better input on that though
22:51:33 <johnstein> my luck they'll be on some tor node
22:51:39 <amalloy> IP bans are not great either. we don't really have good options
22:51:54 <amalloy> johnstein: or the local library, even
22:52:15 <gammafunk> well, IP bans are pretty effective in the short term
22:52:15 <johnstein> really want to entice some great network person to help us move to some more modern system
22:52:38 <amalloy> gammafunk: yes. what i meant was that they are broad enough that they can end up harming non-offenders as well
22:52:48 <johnstein> I'm pretty sure cbro in its current form will not see another tournament
22:53:36 <johnstein> I'm planning on writing some more detailed server admin guides
22:53:48 <amalloy> did someone put together like, a docker image or something for running a webtiles server? i sorta remember someone asking about that
22:54:03 <gammafunk> yes
22:54:18 <gammafunk> but they didn't really want to work with current admins to implement it
22:54:22 <johnstein> with the intent of making it easier to explain to SMRT sysadmins on what we need for craw servers so we can get help architecting something more robust and scalable
22:54:33 <johnstein> I got one of the docket servers to work
22:54:34 <gammafunk> just wanted to make docker+this other technology setups
22:54:36 <gammafunk> and then left
22:54:44 <gammafunk> it's in the learndb somewhere
22:54:48 <gammafunk> ?/docker
22:54:49 <Sequell> Matching terms (1): docker; entries (2): docker[1]: https://bitbucket.org/TZer0/crawl-docker - functioning prototype with external storage settings (and thus import) working. | docker[2]: https://bitbucket.org/mattiasjp/crawl-docker by Mattias
22:54:58 <johnstein> I just didn't keep going to make it integrate seamlessly with the dgl setup
22:55:01 <gammafunk> that second one?
22:55:11 <johnstein> I used TZer0's
22:55:29 <gammafunk> no both are TZer0's
22:55:31 <johnstein> I just haven't had sufficient motivation to work t out
22:55:34 <johnstein> ah ok
22:55:37 <gammafunk> someone made something using another technology
22:55:53 <gammafunk> no I was saying, both of those dockers are by TZer0
22:55:59 <johnstein> the other solution is that I force update old trunk games to some less ancient version
22:56:04 <gammafunk> but someone else made another elaborate thing
22:56:15 <CanOfWorms> oh no, my HEAE game!
22:56:23 <CanOfWorms> I should finish that after the tournament ends
22:56:26 <amalloy> johnstein: are old crawl binaries a substantial disk-space user?
22:56:27 <johnstein> and delete a bunch of old installs
22:56:43 <johnstein> pretty sure that's the majority of the space these days
22:56:54 <amalloy> jeez. imo upgrade 'em all and let god sort 'em out
22:57:13 <johnstein> I moved/deleted all ttyrecs that were older than 2 days on the night before the tourney and only got to 87%
22:57:47 <johnstein> the server it's on isn't really ideal for crawl. need to move to something different
22:58:10 <johnstein> and I need a handful of helpers, some of which need to be Good Sysadmins
22:58:56 <johnstein> and I'm seriously considering a patreon to keep it running. at least a portion. but I'm worried what to do if the donations exceed the costs. I don't want that kind of responsibility
22:59:22 <johnstein> also I don't want to fuel entitled players who may want to dictate how things should be run
22:59:48 <johnstein> kinda like demise's negative response to cpo not being ready
23:00:09 <johnstein> it's almost easier if it's purely volunteer
23:00:28 <johnstein> (which I think is one aspect of why main crawl dev is only volunteer)
23:01:37 <gammafunk> yes, some people can be extremely selfish
23:01:58 <gammafunk> but as far as donations go, I don't think you have to worry too much about a cap or anything
23:02:10 <gammafunk> johnstein: have you seen that TZer0 also runs a patreon for cue
23:02:19 <gammafunk> he just mentions that the server will stay up regardless of donations
23:02:56 <gammafunk> I'm sure players would appreciate having a better gameplay experience if cbro had less lag
23:03:02 <johnstein> oh yea. forgot he did that
23:03:07 <johnstein> agreed
23:03:08 <gammafunk> but it's true that taking donations does introduce some more management all the same
23:03:28 <johnstein> which is why I need some help
23:03:37 -!- n1k is now known as n1
23:03:50 <johnstein> and to move it off my personal vps that runs my irc bouncer and mumble server
23:04:04 <johnstein> though I'm considering shutting that off and going to discord anyway
23:04:15 <johnstein> ??cue[patreon
23:04:15 <Sequell> I don't have a page labeled cue[patreon in my learndb.
23:04:30 <gammafunk> it's on the lobby
23:05:47 <CanOfWorms> looks like the user is back
23:05:55 <johnstein> nice
23:06:09 <johnstein> I'll try to take them out real quick
23:07:30 <CanOfWorms> this is an interesting troll
23:07:42 <CanOfWorms> they're familiar with murray
23:19:36 <johnstein> there'
23:19:51 <johnstein> there's no way to just kick one user from apache or webtiles, right?
23:21:25 <gammafunk> johnstein: probably you just want a ban in iptables for the IP
23:21:48 <gammafunk> apache filtering wouldn't do anything for webtiles I think
23:21:56 <gammafunk> since the game isn't served through apache
23:22:03 <gammafunk> and yeah webtiles has no filtering support of any kind
23:22:18 <gammafunk> but a simple linux ip filter would work just great
23:23:58 <johnstein> yea. I used iptables last time
23:24:01 <johnstein> I do this so infrequently I forgot
23:24:18 <johnstein> what's weird is I don't see the old banned IPs
23:24:42 <gammafunk> did you save the rule permanently?
23:25:12 <johnstein> oh. probably not
23:25:49 <johnstein> sooo, now we wait till they log out?
23:26:26 <gammafunk> well they're effectively blocked if you've added a rule
23:26:40 <gammafunk> eventually their websocket will time out
23:26:51 <johnstein> ah it looks like it should take place immediately
23:26:51 <johnstein> yea
23:27:08 <johnstein> and for good measure, the account password is obsfuscated
23:27:27 <johnstein> now to wait and see if I get into an arms race
23:27:31 <amalloy> i like the idea that you actually changed their password to "obsfuscated"
23:28:02 <johnstein> hah
23:28:04 <johnstein> actually
23:28:18 <johnstein> it's 36 characters long
23:28:39 <johnstein> there's a pattern (so I could type it in), but no way to guess it
23:29:15 <johnstein> looks quiet in the room now at least. yay
23:29:15 <amalloy> do we store passwords in plaintext? i sorta figured we store them hashed, in which case you could "disable" their account by just setting the password hash to "q" or something
23:30:00 <johnstein> pretty sure the passwords aren't plaintext
23:37:27 <|amethyst> but depending on where they were created, they might have the first two characters of the password plaintext as the salt :(
23:38:51 <johnstein> hm. ip was from S.Korea.
23:39:19 <johnstein> who knows where the person is really from, but kinda glad it's not some tor ip
23:54:29 <gammafunk> wonder if it was onget
23:54:33 <gammafunk> probably not