00:00:10 Stable (0.21) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.21-b1-23-g1fb0a74 00:00:14 ^status 00:00:14 39 Crawlers. CBRO disk usage=86% (135GB) | RAM usage=28% (4GB)| uptime/CPU= 00:00:13 up 308 days, 5:38, 4 users, load average: 1.22, 1.06, 0.93 (4 Cores) http://status.berotato.org 00:21:30 ziggurnaut (L19 GhMo) (Vaults:1) 00:37:58 !kw nchoice 00:37:58 Keyword: nchoice => nchoice-0.20 00:38:09 !kw -rm nchoice 00:38:10 Deleted keyword: nchoice => nchoice-0.20 01:20:47 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.22-a0-42-g002c468 (34) 01:37:16 !crash 01:37:25 18472. tlatlagkaus, XL13 DsFi, T:4253 (milestone): https://webzook.net/soup/morgue/trunk/tlatlagkaus/crash-tlatlagkaus-20180105-023645.txt 01:37:38 !crash cbro 01:37:39 No milestones for cbro (crash). 01:37:47 !crash ziggernaut 01:37:48 No milestones for ziggernaut (crash). 01:38:14 !crash src=cbro 01:38:16 1. johnstein, XL2 DDAr, T:391 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/johnstein/crash-johnstein-20151123-071548.txt 01:38:26 what am I doing wrong? 01:38:32 !lm ziggernaut 01:38:33 No milestones for ziggernaut. 01:38:41 !lm ziggurnaut 01:38:43 4215. [2018-01-05 06:15:55] ziggurnaut the Nimble (L10 DEFE of Vehumet) reached level 2 of the Orcish Mines on turn 16650. (Orc:2) 01:38:49 1learn how to spell 01:38:54 !crash ziggurnaut 01:38:54 66. ziggurnaut, XL19 GhMo, T:39001 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/ziggurnaut/crash-ziggurnaut-20180105-052129.txt 01:39:28 AUTOQUIT IS NOT ENABLED! 01:41:32 yeah he has some rc lua that crashes a lot 02:00:14 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.22-a0-42-g002c468 02:04:11 -!- aditya1 is now known as aditya 02:55:33 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.22-a0-42-g002c468 03:19:50 Stable (0.21) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.21-b1-23-g1fb0a74 03:21:39 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.22-a0-42-g002c468 (34) 04:59:21 !time 04:59:22 Time: Jan 05, 2018, 09:59:21 AM, UTC. The 2018 0.21 tournament starts in 10 hours and 38 seconds. 05:02:54 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 05:06:12 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 06:14:51 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 09:21:33 ??t 09:21:33 tournament[1/3]: The 0.21 tournament will run from 20:00 UTC Friday 5 Jan 2018 to 20:00 UTC Sunday 21 Jan 2018. Tournament home page: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.21/ 09:21:50 does WJC not have a banner? 09:32:32 wheals: there was some discussion a few days ago but there weren't any workable ideas 09:33:28 ah, pity 10:08:52 -!- Wahaha_ is now known as Wahaha 10:41:58 amalloy_: just watched your talk on YT for the rogue celebration, very nice :) 10:43:31 is there moderation on team names? :P 10:46:38 "zot sluts" shouldn't be offensive but also it is not a very nice name if kids are playing, so i'll for sure change if needed. hasn't picked up my teams config tho 10:49:14 do you just give it up to any OoF? 10:49:22 what if an ancient lich wants to join in 10:49:33 you'll have to post the ttyrec to xhamster 10:49:37 my dude, my whole team does not discriminate 10:49:52 (..)7 10:50:01 lol 11:01:13 can you link YT video, espais? 11:03:01 yop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV57CYrIZow 11:28:54 elliptic: we have a problem where cpo may not have 0.21 installed in time (possibly it will be installed after tournament start) 11:29:16 elliptic: is it possible to count trunk games for a time for cpo and then switch over when the branch is installed, or will that just not work well? 11:29:31 oh dang that sucks 11:30:31 gammafunk: id really like a "no human is involved here so if your team isnt showing up its another issue" or otherwise, if you had any insight 11:31:07 not that you know about my case _specifically_, i'm just unsure how the process works. i imagine a cron that updates the page every so often 11:31:42 shmup: the tournament updates from a script that polls the logs 11:31:50 and rcfiles are pulled every so often 11:32:20 could it be because my rc was only modified on berotato? 11:32:29 how long ago did you modify it? 11:32:34 no, that wouldn't make sense. players from that server are showing up 11:32:35 48 hours, gammafunk 11:32:45 yes definitely would be seen by them 11:32:45 althoguh i just moved my stuff to the _very_ top about an hour ago. it was beneath some other commented stuff 11:32:48 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rcfiles/crawl-0.21/shmup.rc 11:32:59 i didnt think it'd have to be at the very top, just anywhere in the log, but dunno :) 11:33:22 yeah has to be first two lines 11:33:22 omg ok 11:33:35 it prob super clearly says that on the tournament page, heh 11:33:49 oh 11:33:55 did dobrazupa just go down 11:34:13 yeah 11:34:13 ??tournament 11:34:14 tournament[1/3]: The 0.21 tournament will run from 20:00 UTC Friday 5 Jan 2018 to 20:00 UTC Sunday 21 Jan 2018. Tournament home page: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.21/ 11:34:17 i'd say in the past like 2 minutes 11:34:56 oh 11:35:02 |amethyst is also gone 11:36:08 well...hopefully he and dobrazupa come back soon 11:38:39 Edmund's sprite doesn't remove weapon when Tukima's Dance triggers 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11346 by espais 11:38:39 it's back gammafunk 11:39:04 looks like it was just some temporary network problem 11:39:10 taildb still running 11:40:06 shmup: the rc update runs every two hours on cbro, so you should see that update eventually 11:40:11 if you fixed the listing an hour ago 11:40:19 yeah i did, cool gammafunk 11:40:39 oh it's 11:40:58 more like every 4 hours, sorry 11:41:22 shmup: if you update on cao's 0.21 it will kick in faster 11:41:48 don't have to play there, just update your rc there 11:41:59 so if you're concerned, just update your 0.21 rc on cao to be the same as cbro 11:42:11 it pulls every 15 min from cao since it's a more efficient method 11:42:15 heh, i'd have to get the whole team on board tho and it is ok 11:42:22 i mean it would create _the team_ i suppose 11:42:49 yeah 11:56:46 gammafunk: counting trunk games would be sort of problematic for a few reasons I think 11:57:44 if you are confident that there are not going to be any significant differences between trunk and 0.21 for the duration of the tournament then I guess it is feasible though, with some hackery on the scripts 11:58:10 sucky scenario to be in :( 11:58:12 !time 11:58:12 I don't know whether anything is currently marked as trunk-only 11:58:12 Time: Jan 05, 2018, 04:58:13 PM, UTC. The 2018 0.21 tournament starts in 3 hours, 1 minute and 46 seconds. 11:58:25 no significant feature differences, no 11:58:44 but yeah it means we'd have a hard time making that warning commit 11:58:51 I wasn't sure if the tournament scripts would work 12:01:29 the main thing is that the tournament scripts won't recognize 0.22-a games as part of the 0.21 tournament without some minor hackery 12:01:37 Stable (0.21) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.21-b1-23-g1fb0a74 12:01:52 and that if anyone does commit something significant to trunk then things are sort of messed up 12:03:55 that's a thing we could probably control, not putting significant changes in trunk 12:04:27 I think if you do this then you should stick with trunk on cpo for the entire tourney though 12:04:38 yes, I was about to ask 12:05:09 since that makes things far easier than trying to have people switch to 0.21 branch or letting people use either one 12:05:49 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.22-a0-42-g002c468 (34) 12:09:29 gammafunk: if you do decide to do this, I _think_ that the only changes needed are (1) changing the "if not game['v'].startswith(GAME_VERSION):" check in loaddb.py to have a separate case for CPO; (2) pulling the correct logfile/milestones/rcfiles from CPO; (3) doing something hacky to Sequell's kw 12:09:45 ok 12:10:22 it's a little bit dodgy, this since we don't have any word from alex, so he might just go install 0.21 after tournament without talking to us 12:10:38 we'd probably have to ask him to uninstall it (or not install it if he talks with us first) 12:10:54 and just put a message on the CPO lobby about playing trunk 12:10:59 installing 0.21 after tournament is fine as long as people know that it doesn't count for tournament :P 12:11:07 and we could likewise put one on the tournament 12:11:40 I guess so, but it might not be too helpful in terms of preventing confusion, is my point 12:11:46 yeah 12:11:47 I guess just a note is enough 12:12:24 also I'm not sure if we can make the tournament warning commit in an easy way 12:12:48 no way to condition that on server afaik; alex would somehow have to not pull that commit 12:13:23 I guess actually it's not that bad to let people play 0.21 in addition to trunk if it is installed 12:13:46 would we have two cpo sources in the configs? 12:14:14 a little hacky, but it should work to treat it as a separate server (by having the filename have a different prefix from CPO) 12:14:53 the way the scripts currently know what server a game is on is from the first three letters of the filename (e.g. cpo-logfile-0.21) 12:16:31 so I'd say that if you want to do this, just don't worry about 0.21 being installed partway through and people playing that, since you can change the scripts if that happens to pick up those games 12:17:22 the issues are just needing to make sure nothing weird happens in trunk and the tournament warning commit being confusing for CPO players 12:18:27 Stable (0.21) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.21-b1-23-g1fb0a74c36 12:18:52 https://help.github.com/enterprise/2.12/admin/guides/developer-workflow/creating-a-pre-receive-hook-script/ could be useful for blocking trunk updates 12:19:21 oh, but that's gh enterprise, nvm 12:19:33 elliptic: alright, thanks, I'll see if I can get the scripts mofified in a branch quickly 12:19:53 the main thing is that I think that if you let people play tournament games in trunk on CPO at the start of the tourney, you need to let them continue doing so for the entire tourney 12:20:25 yeah, that's probably the case, since you can't force those games to finish or anything 12:20:56 aside from that the tourney scripts should be able to handle things fine; I'm not sure exactly how annoying it is to change the tourney kw in sequell but that is presumably doable too 12:27:51 elliptic: one last question, is game['src'] the key I want for the game's server? 12:29:10 !lg * cpo x=v 12:29:11 116892. [v=0.22.0-a0] slAvIk159 the Cleaver (L11 MiGl of Okawaru), slain by an unseen horror on D:9 (st_stairs_13) on 2018-01-05 17:09:06, with 8752 points after 11742 turns and 0:48:18. 12:30:34 ah, I see where src is set 12:38:32 I think becuase I haven't even made the release yet 12:38:40 I'm actually just not going to try to make this work 12:38:59 hopefully cpo players can just use another server right at tournament start 13:25:45 -!- |amethys1 is now known as |amethyst 13:25:49 <|amethyst> hm 13:25:59 <|amethyst> great time for dobrazupa to go down, huh 13:27:10 <|amethyst> I can't even get to their customer service portal 13:27:48 <|amethyst> oh huh 13:27:50 <|amethyst> and now it's back 13:28:08 -!- |amethys1 is now known as |amethyst 13:42:43 03gammafunk02 07* 0.22-a0-43-gc6c46c7: Finalize the changelog for 0.21 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 11+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c6c46c727203 13:43:15 03gammafunk02 07[stone_soup-0.21] * 0.21-b1-24-g51fd818: Finalize the changelog for 0.21 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 11+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/51fd81844356 13:47:04 |amethyst: yeah it became available shortly after that outage reported some hours back 13:47:16 apparently hasn't gone down since as my ssh connection is still good 13:47:40 also, ideas for release name? 13:47:47 we fogot to make one xD 13:48:34 <|amethyst> hm, so the big new things are wjc, gnolls, and bvc? 13:48:40 ??bvc 13:48:40 Borgnjor's Vile Clutch[1/3]: Not actually a nasty purse used by necromancers but the 'formal' name for the zombie hands player spell - L5 earth/necromancy, smite targeted constriction in a 3x3 area. New in 0.21. 13:48:47 yes 13:49:09 Bad news: the Crawl wiki appears to have vanished altogether. 13:49:11 other important aspects: skill targets, food unification, wand stacking 13:49:47 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 13:52:25 The First Gnoll 13:52:42 rejected 13:53:16 Gnoll Compos Mentis 13:53:31 AvzinElkein, the crawl wiki is not maintained by anone here (or, as far as we know, in ##crawl) 13:54:10 yeah, seems like they redid the chaosforge website due to the upcoming Jupiter Hell alpha 13:54:25 and "maintained" has always been a bit dubious for it anyway 13:54:29 hopefully that data can become available again... 13:54:49 Whoops. 13:57:27 if it's entirely gone, I probably have some ~6mo old dumps lying around 13:58:02 <|amethyst> hm 13:58:15 <|amethyst> I'm trying to remember which page had contact info for the admins 13:58:25 <|amethyst> can try browsing around at https://web.archive.org/web/20170122143721/http://crawl.chaosforge.org/CrawlWiki 13:59:09 <|amethyst> gammafunk: Gnoll Country for Old Jian 13:59:10 lol 13:59:26 |amethyst might have a winner 13:59:36 * aidanh groans 13:59:48 <|amethyst> _A Separate Peace_ 14:00:02 which is the server that might be behind? 14:00:03 cao? 14:00:10 2 lzy 2 scroll 14:00:23 behind? 14:00:30 chaosforge is not related to anyone here 14:00:33 cao updates rcs most frequently 14:00:47 cpo is probably not going to be ready at tourney start 14:00:54 <|amethyst> I have the email for one of the admins... as of 3 years ago 14:01:11 gammafunk: that's all i meant re: cpo 14:01:18 ty 14:02:28 <|amethyst> gammafunk: I mean, "minotaur" might work better than "jian", but that's not something new 14:02:50 yeah 14:03:01 old works for jian if you consider its development history... 14:03:09 <|amethyst> heh 14:04:29 |amethyst: would you be embarrassed if I used this as the actual release title? 14:04:40 <|amethyst> And what rough gnoll, its hour come at last, / Lunges towards Bethlehem to be clutched? 14:04:40 I just totally forgot about thinking one up 14:05:06 <|amethyst> gammafunk: nah, that's fine. Sorry I didn't get a chance to spend more time thinking about it either 14:05:13 <|amethyst> best I could do on short notice :) 14:06:56 * geekosaur would probably be going with "Forbidden Gnollage" if server play were viable here (and, uh, cared about competing) 14:06:59 <|amethyst> s/come at last/come round at last/ # misremembered the line 14:08:17 that's even more of a groaner 14:09:42 Stable (0.21) branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.21-b1-24-g51fd818443 14:10:02 03gammafunk02 07[stone_soup-0.21] * 0.21.0: Update the Debian changelog for 0.21 10(25 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c455ca695a07 14:11:18 !kw t0.21 14:11:19 Built-in: t0.21 => start>='2018-01-05 20:00:00' time<'2018-01-21 20:00:00' ((cv=0.21|0.21-a)) explbr= 14:11:39 !time 14:11:39 Time: Jan 05, 2018, 07:11:40 PM, UTC. The 2018 0.21 tournament starts in 48 minutes and 19 seconds. 14:19:06 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.22-a0-43-gc6c46c7272 (34) 14:22:54 FYI Ramnode is doing maintenance on some of their servers for the meltdown/spectre garbage 14:23:22 I haven't gotten an email for the server cbro is on but they've said a reboot is coming soon 14:23:25 Stable (0.21) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.21.0-0-gc455ca6 14:23:52 so if cbro goes down unexpectedly that's why. hopefully they'll give me notice and I can pass it on here 14:34:06 we clearly chose the right time for a tournament 14:34:28 cpo not available, dobrazupa randomly goes down, cbro maintenance... 14:34:59 I was going to ask Neil for a quote for the release post....but now Neil has gone down as well! 14:35:07 someone please reboot Neil! 14:35:38 gammafunk: sounds like it'll be easy to get high scores 14:35:45 true 14:35:52 are you playing this tournament btw? 14:36:30 if so, you can add me as team captain; lord knows if I'll have much time to play, but we can certainly have a clan page 14:36:31 that much we can manage 14:36:36 ...I hope 14:37:58 i was going to say "probably not", but maybe i can try to get like one win if i don't go to the trouble of recording it 14:38:21 my last game is like six months ago 14:38:51 well feel free to add me as teamcaptain if you do 14:39:02 and yeah I also haven't played since 6 mo 14:39:16 don't a lot of dev kind of replaces playing crawl at some point 14:39:29 s/don't/doing/ 14:39:33 maybe that works both ways though? 14:40:13 advil: 0.21.0 has been tagged in stone_soup-0.21 so feel free to make OS X build whenever convenient for you 14:40:37 not gonna have this all quite finished before start of tournament, but tournament will start fine 14:41:47 advil: also if you do end up playing in tournament, feel free to add me as your teamcaptain unless you already have a team 14:41:57 the ultracasual dev team 14:42:21 elliptic never sent me the clan invite... 14:42:30 one day... 14:57:49 gammafunk: ok, I should get to it this afternoon 14:58:46 slacker dev team sounds about right. My usual team filled up already, and I can't play much until next week anyways 15:01:25 |amethyst: is mysqld doing ok on dobrazupa? I tried to do a wipe of the crawl db with the usual .mysql file we use and it's hanging 15:01:37 and the taildb.py script apparently crashed 15:01:42 <|amethyst> hmm 15:01:57 _mysql_exceptions.OperationalError: (1205, 'Lock wait timeout exceeded; try restarting transaction') 15:02:18 oh 15:02:22 looks liek a reboot? 15:02:23 <|amethyst> just restarted, try again maybe? 15:02:25 <|amethyst> hm 15:02:37 <|amethyst> no, up 43 days 22:41 15:02:56 yeah I saw that mysqldb message 15:02:56 due to running mysql for that command 15:02:56 worked this time 15:03:24 !time 15:03:24 Time: Jan 05, 2018, 08:03:24 PM, UTC. The 2018 0.21 tournament ends in 15 days, 23 hours, 56 minutes and 35 seconds. 15:03:25 ok, looks like it's rnning 15:03:32 ??tournamant 15:03:32 tournamant ~ tournament[1/3]: The 0.21 tournament will run from 20:00 UTC Friday 5 Jan 2018 to 20:00 UTC Sunday 21 Jan 2018. Tournament home page: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.21/ 15:06:44 !nchoice 15:06:45 Subcommand $(!kw nchoice) failed: No keyword 'nchoice' 15:06:53 !cmd nchoice 15:06:53 Command: !nchoice => .echo $(let (combo (if (is_int ${1:--1}) (nth (int ${1:--1}) $(split | (replace " => " | (!kw nchoice)))) $1)) (let (wins (!lg * t won char=$combo fmt:"$n" stub:"0")) (if (and (> (int $wins) 0) (= ${1:-x} x)) (=nchoice.new) (concat (canonicalise char $combo) ": $wins $(plural win (int $wins)) || " (or (=lastnchoice.combostatus $combo) "No $combo games in progress."))))) 15:07:07 !cmd =update.nchoice 15:07:07 No command =update.nchoice 15:07:18 gammafunk: i remember =nchoice being a thing 15:07:22 !cmd =nchoice 15:07:22 Command: =nchoice => =nemelex 15:07:29 !cmd =nemelex 15:07:29 Command: =nemelex => !kw nchoice $(if (= XXXX (=kw nchoice)) $1 (=kw nchoice)(if (not (= "0" (!lg * t won char=$(nth -1 (split | (=kw nchoice))) fmt:"$n" stub:"0"))) (concat | $1) (ignore $1))) 15:07:41 =nemelex TeEn 15:07:41 Subcommand $(!kw nchoice) failed: No keyword 'nchoice' 15:07:53 !kw nchoice TeEn 15:07:54 Defined keyword: nchoice => TeEn 15:08:13 !nchoice 15:08:13 TeEn: 0 wins || bluepin: CAO, L1 Sneak of No God || moohaus: CAO, L1 Sneak of No God 15:09:40 ^status 15:09:40 88 Crawlers. CBRO disk usage=87% (135GB) | RAM usage=64% (4GB)| uptime/CPU= 15:09:40 up 308 days, 20:47, 12 users, load average: 3.43, 2.70, 1.71 (4 Cores) http://status.berotato.org 15:09:48 STILL ALIVE 15:09:53 Stable (0.21) branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.21.0-0-gc455ca695a 15:12:23 -!- Marko is now known as Maki 15:12:36 -!- Maki is now known as Marko 15:19:28 trying to jinx yourself? :p 15:21:48 !lm * t max=xl cao|cbro x=src 15:21:49 656. [2018-01-05 20:12:01] [src=cbro] tself55 the Severer (L12 MiBe of Trog) left the Dungeon on turn 11351. (D:11) 15:21:56 !lm * t max=xl cao|cbro x=src alive 15:21:58 498. [2018-01-05 20:20:45] [src=cbro] tself55 the Severer (L13 MiBe of Trog) reached level 6 of the Lair of Beasts on turn 17064. (Lair:6) 15:23:14 nerf MiBe 15:25:30 The build passed. (stone_soup-0.21 - c455ca6 #9156 : gammafunk): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/325570343 15:26:13 !nchoice 15:26:16 TeEn: 0 wins || NeonDemon: CUE, L1 Sneak of No God || removed: CXC, L1 Sneak of No God 15:56:53 if anyone wants to make that trunk commit to warn about the tournament 15:56:56 please feel free 15:57:00 I'm busy doing release stuff 16:12:42 The build passed. (0.21.0 - c455ca6 #9157 : gammafunk): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/325570397 16:14:37 tself55 has the orb. hopefully first win of t 16:14:48 oh, no he doesn't. he has Orb, because he's in zot:5 16:14:55 i forgot that changed 16:16:11 heh 16:18:01 03wheals02 {GitHub} 07* 0.22-a0-44-geb883ae: 0.21 tournament reminder. 10(8 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/eb883ae61ce9 16:18:13 gammafunk: done 16:18:16 tank u 16:18:24 btw 16:18:28 .gfkill t 16:18:29 2. arkorax the Hoplite (L24 DsGl of Okawaru), blasted by a black draconian (bolt of lightning) (summoned by an orange crystal statue) on Zot:5 (hall_of_Zot) on 2018-01-05 21:07:35, with 537602 points after 33851 turns and 1:07:04. 16:18:44 I literally save the tourney first win from being a demonspawn 16:18:52 *saved 16:32:32 good time for dobrazupa provider to go unstable... 17:09:51 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.22-a0-44-geb883ae61c (34) 17:21:39 Vault placement caused monster to be placed in a wall (vaults_dpeg_diagonal) 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11347 by NormalPerson7 17:22:05 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.22-a0-44-geb883ae (34) 17:23:27 !vault vaults_dpeg_diagonal 17:23:28 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/vaults_rooms_empty.des#L955 17:23:45 well, hard to blame the vault for that 17:25:19 what a weird SUBST, though 17:26:10 fairly sure SUBST: _ : xxxx$ , $ : $SSS. , S = $$. is equivalent to SUBST: _ : xxxxS , S : $$$.. 17:26:57 though either way it can generate teleport closets. i think it needs to be fixed even though it doesn't seem like the cause of this bug report 17:32:14 i know there is a policy about like, we try not to do anything cool on trunk while t is going on. should i do something different than just making a trunk commit to change this vault? 17:36:18 vault fixes arguably are not covered. and are even eligible for backporting into the stable version 17:36:27 (immediately) 18:03:56 I was seeing monsters in walls a bunch while running objstat recently, not sure if that's new or what 18:03:59 oh, i see. i misread the SUBST, not seeing the distinction between foo : bar and foo = bar 18:04:20 so the existing vault is actually fine 18:14:53 -!- Variance is now known as jopke 18:18:01 i think the only thing it's especially worth holding off on are like, major new features, in case you happened to have a new god lying around or something 18:20:28 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.22-a0-44-geb883ae61c (34) 19:08:43 amalloy: yeah, minor improvements are fine, it's major features we like to leave until after tournament 19:09:18 http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/crawl-0-21-gnoll-country-for-old-jian 19:12:47 hmm, wjc is in a pretty bad place i think 19:13:12 it looks like whirlwind is 100% guaranteed to give you a square of space against any monster regardless of its speed 19:14:20 which is bad on its own and much worse in combination with lunge being a thing 19:17:57 (you don't even have to land the whirlwind attack, you can miss or be too fast to even try any attacks) 19:22:00 should been be a chance that depends on something about the monster? 19:22:07 *should pin 19:24:43 not sure, but you should have to actually land the attack if nothing else 19:24:57 yes, that certainly sounds reasonable 19:25:02 and the current implementation of it staying active until the next player action doesn't make much sense 19:26:45 it might still be in the territory of needing another rework 19:29:12 MarvinPA: there was a bunch of discussion of that property of whirlwind around when this version of wjc was moved, but I can't remember the details 19:29:38 whirlwind pin + lunge = 200% total (i.e. same as 2 attacks), no? 19:34:34 the problem is it being guaranteed space even when you miss or don't even make an attack though 19:41:16 yes, I didn't realize it pinned if you miss 19:46:21 it's understandable if you can pin something while missing (you are forcing them to take time to dodge), but probably not if they don't even make an attack 20:11:31 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 20:15:46 !nchoice 20:15:47 Time for a new nchoice! It will appear shortly on the tournament website (if it hasn't yet). Type "=nemelex XXXX" to update !nchoice with the new combo, where XXXX should be replaced by the new combo. 20:16:04 =nemelex KoNe 20:16:04 Defined keyword: nchoice => TeEn|KoNe 20:32:15 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 21:16:39 ^status 21:16:39 101 Crawlers. CBRO disk usage=90% (135GB) | RAM usage=70% (4GB)| uptime/CPU= 21:16:39 up 309 days, 2:54, 10 users, load average: 3.22, 2.58, 2.37 (4 Cores) http://status.berotato.org 21:16:51 3% disk space in less than 24 hrs 21:16:53 wow 21:16:59 ttyrecs? 21:17:08 well. maybe 2.5% 21:17:09 yea 21:17:33 I moved all ttyrecs older than 2 days off the server last night 21:17:49 the disk space fluctuates since I run the compress every 15 minutes or so 21:18:01 maybe it's every couple hours 21:18:21 er. maybe it's 4 times a day, not 4 times an hour 21:18:49 we'll see what happens 21:19:39 johnstein: what's taking up the other 85% of the disk space, if not recent ttyrecs? 21:19:58 crawl-git installs 21:20:04 and binaries 21:20:07 for old versions 21:20:17 135gb isn't all that much space 21:20:18 I'll probably do another directory by directory assessment 21:20:45 its' the max for this particular server. pretty sure I won't be able to dodge doing SOMETHING about it before next tourney 21:21:01 yeah, seems unusually low for a server 21:21:16 probably the wrong kind of server for this 21:21:25 my old laptop here has 700GB 21:21:38 when I set it up I just wanted something dumb to play around with, not an official server 21:21:45 oops 21:23:37 !lm * t s=src 21:23:39 16670 milestones for * (t): 6523x cbro, 4274x cao, 4057x cxc, 1573x cue, 243x lld 21:23:46 cbro biggest server! 21:24:47 btw if any of you guys think there is too much botspam in ##crawl I can tweak the filters to turn it down 21:24:54 for postquell at least 21:26:45 I haven't been following too carefully 21:27:14 -!- mngrif_ is now known as mngrif 21:27:16 -!- yaknyasn_ is now known as yaknyasn 21:27:17 -!- robertmeta_ is now known as robertmeta 21:27:46 i haven't really been in ##crawl for a long time but it had way more botspam than i wanted pretty much forever. if it announced, like, only wins that might be okay 21:28:02 again though, i don't actually hang out there so my opinion isn't worth a lot 21:30:04 I think most just ignore the bots 21:30:06 lol 21:39:28 well I cut it down a bunch 21:42:12 [06 02:40:17] is Akrasiac working for others? I'm getting WebSocket connection failed 21:44:29 |amethyst, johnstein ^ 21:51:35 same 21:51:44 I see henzell just rejoined 21:51:57 well, rejoined like 9 minutes ago 21:57:29 -!- Tarara is now known as Taraiph 22:53:55 hmmm 22:53:56 ??is_cao_down 22:54:00 10 seconds since last activity (cao) 22:54:44 ^status 22:54:44 112 Crawlers. CBRO disk usage=88% (135GB) | RAM usage=84% (4GB)| uptime/CPU= 22:54:44 up 309 days, 4:33, 15 users, load average: 2.90, 2.92, 2.87 (4 Cores) http://status.berotato.org 22:54:54 nice. back down to 88% 22:58:55 thanks johnstein 22:58:59 did you restart webtiles? 22:59:10 88 is a lucky percentage 23:04:28 I did not 23:04:29 I did nothing 23:08:04 !lm * cao tiles 23:08:52 6827787. [2018-01-06 04:08:40] ranchugoldfish the Cleaver (L12 GrGl of Okawaru) killed the ghost of aturtledoesbite the Impaler, a journeyman MfGl of Wu Jian on turn 17620. (Lair:2) 23:09:16 shoulda added recent, I guess 23:13:06 ah 23:13:21 oh, yeah it's still down 23:13:44 johnstein: can you log in and take a look when you have a chance? 23:15:09 !learn a is_cao_down 23:15:09 Syntax is: !learn add TERM TEXT or !learn add TERM[n] TEXT 23:15:14 !learn q is_cao_down 23:15:14 is cao down[1/1]: do {!isonline cao} 23:15:19 !cmd isonline 23:15:19 Command: !isonline => .echo $(=time_since_milestone $*) since last activity ($(replace . $nick $*)) 23:15:30 I would imagine it's still up for console 23:15:48 yes it is 23:15:49 johnstein: so only webtiles is down, console is still working 23:16:00 it probably just needs a webtiles restart, although no idea if it has other issues right now 23:16:23 hrm 23:16:43 seems like current wbetiles games are ok, given that !lm ? 23:16:44 86 games, these are probably all not being played 23:17:08 yeah, that would be the case 23:19:12 ??is_cao_down 23:19:14 1 minutes, 0 seconds since last activity (cao) 23:19:28 oh hm 23:19:43 I can look now 23:21:29 sage1234 (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 23:21:30 atomicknyte (L1 OpEn) (D:1) 23:21:31 tirkaz (L1 MiBe) (D:1) 23:21:32 xuincherguixe (L1 DsIE) (D:1) 23:21:32 Webtiles server restarted. 23:21:34 filthy (L9 MiAE) (D:7) 23:21:37 syadasti (L26 SpEn) (Zot:5) 23:21:39 rpophessagr (L18 HOFi) (Spider:4) 23:21:41 joedirt (L24 CeAM) (Depths:1) 23:21:46 that will be messy since I didn't kill henzell first 23:22:04 back now 23:22:48 thx johnstein 23:23:13 wonder how beem is doing