00:27:38 theanonym (L16 GrFi) (Abyss:1) 02:46:14 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.21-a0-513-gdcb3f5e 03:08:03 -!- Evablue_ is now known as Evablue 03:25:19 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 03:27:22 03gammafunk02 07* 0.21-a0-514-gcd93bbd: Small adjustments to Cloud Mage WizLab 10(5 hours ago, 1 file, 4+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cd93bbdc936c 03:27:22 03gammafunk02 07* 0.21-a0-515-g8d4ebbe: Further improvements to the Hellbinder WizLab 10(5 hours ago, 1 file, 58+ 64-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8d4ebbe138f6 05:13:14 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 09:38:35 til that ugly things are a kind of ghost? maybe I'm reading this wrong 10:26:00 -!- Bammboobies is now known as Bammboo 10:37:36 %git 4c720037b961ccf2ffb27189d220cc83b897cdb6 10:37:36 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.15-a0-1364-g4c72003: Add multi-ghost-file support 10(3 years, 7 months ago, 1 file, 148+ 17-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4c720037b961 11:13:03 <|amethyst> advil: player ghosts, panlords, and ugly things have an extra data structure called ghost_demon that allows customizing things like attacks and resists that usually come straight from the monster's type rather than being stored in the 'monster' or 'actor' class 11:14:16 <|amethyst> advil: oh, also player illusions from Mara, and dancing and spectral weapons 11:20:48 Confused-then-ensorcelled monsters continue to stagger around while asleep 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11307 by aidanholm 11:23:29 <|amethyst> aidanh: that's not a bug 11:23:52 <|amethyst> aidanh: if you look at the monster with xv, it should say it's "sleepwalking" 11:24:03 <|amethyst> maybe that status should show in the monster list too? 11:26:26 ok, thanks, I'll close that then 11:27:57 ...and it looks like I can't do that 11:28:46 <|amethyst> hm 11:30:59 <|amethyst> I closed it for you 11:31:12 <|amethyst> I guess it has to be marked as "resolved" before you can close it? 11:33:21 huh; well, sorry about that 11:35:26 <|amethyst> no worries; I think that has been reported as a bug at least four or five times in Mantis :) 11:35:43 <|amethyst> (maybe we should take the hint? :) 11:58:56 probably in the monster list it should show sleepwalking instead of confused, but there's not a quick way to reorder them without producing other weird orderings 11:59:20 for local tiles I guess a combined ?zz icon might help, it came up recently that those icons need some work anyways 11:59:56 the hint being that sleepwalking needs to be clearer :-P 12:01:24 perhaps an addition to the spell description would make things clearer; although that's not the only source of paralysis 12:01:59 sleep, i mean 12:05:11 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.21-a0-515-g8d4ebbe (34) 12:05:18 <|amethyst> it's just sleep, not paralysis 12:05:48 quick gnoll question: current recommended backgrounds are Sk, Tm, Wr, AM, Wn; should any of these be changed around? 12:05:49 <|amethyst> ensorcelled hibernation isn't the *only* source of monster sleep, but it's the only one the player really has control over 12:07:16 also, when selecting background first, gnoll is not recommended for any background. should any of them recommend gnoll? 12:14:12 hm, that reminds me, we need to fix the !s for !apt 12:14:18 !apt long blades 12:14:18 Long: Gn: 8!, Ba: 2, Mi: 2, Mf: 1, Te: 1, HO: 1, Op: 0, Fe: N/A, DD: 0, Na: 0, Hu: 0, Fo: 0, Ha: 0, Dr: 0, Vp: 0, HE: N/A, Ds: -1, Gh: -1, Ce: -1, VS: -1, Og: -1, Gr: -1, DE: -1, Dg: -1, Mu: -2*, Tr: -2*, Ko: -2*, Sp: -2* 12:14:26 since Gn gets all the !s now 12:15:23 I looked into it once but iirc it's in perl and I don't do perl 12:29:07 So this how we're gonna do this:after the 0.21 tournament ends you(devs) have 1(one) week to do what I wrote here. If you fail I will never touch this game ever again. 12:30:25 you didn't write anything 12:30:25 gammafunk: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 12:30:39 clearly you are *out of ideas* 12:31:34 false: I wrote lol 12:31:44 because lol at that post 12:31:53 what's the poist 12:31:55 *post 12:32:24 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=24512 12:34:54 that is quite a gem 12:35:44 its my daily reminder that I can agree with someone's conclusion and still think they're dumb 12:36:33 now to figure out the easiest way to merge wjc 12:43:25 it's pretty intertwined with a lot of movement code, merging it might not be very easy 12:47:20 the first commit has 979 additions wtf 12:47:41 yeah you don't want to try merging from the first commit 12:47:47 it went through massive design changes 12:48:00 yeah I guess it will be easier to just piece it together 12:48:34 right, it's not that much code in the end, looking only at the current code 12:51:53 not just design changes but a lot of piecewise fixes and tweaks to messaging 12:52:42 right, that would complicate things a bit 12:53:29 also fwiw I'm not sure it's there yet, UI-wise 12:55:15 I have no doubt there'll be more tweaks in mainline this month 12:55:41 one issue I've noticed is that walljump is really easy to do by accident, and not rarely with quite bad results 12:59:59 also I'm interested to understand how wjc fits with the hellcrawl aesthetic :) 13:07:11 me too 13:19:49 also wow that shaft post 13:22:28 "When I made this thread I noticed this gammasomething dude snooping around.He's a dev,probably disagree with me and I think he forget to tell his collegues about my reasonable request." 13:31:28 gammasomething got called out 15:06:08 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 17:03:37 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 17:08:37 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 17:27:21 "roguelikes aren't/shouldn't be exciting" 17:35:21 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 17:38:13 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 18:17:41 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.21-a0-515-g8d4ebbe138 (34) 18:25:12 there are times when I can relate, but almost certainly not the way whoever said that intended it >.> 18:52:55 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 19:04:36 03|amethyst02 07[food-unification] * 0.21-a0-516-g0b371cb: Make food restriction mutations single-level. 10(4 months ago, 14 files, 75+ 79-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0b371cb4664b 19:04:36 03|amethyst02 07[food-unification] * 0.21-a0-517-g639369e: Simplify food_def. 10(4 months ago, 2 files, 15+ 22-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/639369e543cd 19:04:36 03|amethyst02 07[food-unification] * 0.21-a0-518-g34e33c0: Merge bread and meat rations. 10(4 months ago, 51 files, 129+ 297-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/34e33c0298db 19:04:36 03|amethyst02 07[food-unification] * 0.21-a0-519-gb10ecd9: Remove royal jellies. 10(4 months ago, 43 files, 89+ 144-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b10ecd9c7d78 19:04:36 03|amethyst02 07[food-unification] * 0.21-a0-520-gc956b2d: Merge fruit into rations. 10(4 months ago, 38 files, 122+ 180-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c956b2dc1fc0 19:04:36 03|amethyst02 07[food-unification] * 0.21-a0-521-g24e071c: Fix swapped herb/carn food values. 10(4 months ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/24e071c99e2b 19:04:36 03|amethyst02 07[food-unification] * 0.21-a0-522-g0c549f6: Remove obsolete commends in food.des. 10(3 months ago, 1 file, 0+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0c549f68f51b 19:04:36 03|amethyst02 07[food-unification] * 0.21-a0-523-g522d15d: Decrease herb/carn ration nutrition. 10(3 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/522d15d8bb9f 19:04:36 03|amethyst02 07[food-unification] * 0.21-a0-524-ga725d39: Reduce ration nutrition by about 37%. 10(3 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a725d394c971 19:04:36 03|amethyst02 07[food-unification] * 0.21-a0-525-g7a3a363: Correct objstat nutrition counts for food piles. 10(3 months ago, 1 file, 6+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7a3a3634af0c 19:04:36 ... and 5 more commits 19:05:19 <|amethyst> (rebase and force push there) 19:08:47 I was paraphrasing NicuTudors comment, but on second thought, I think it's a lack of English comprehension on their end as they seem to imply that being excited necessitates surprise. 19:09:54 New branch created: pull/656 (15 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/656 19:09:55 03|amethyst02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/656 * 0.21-a0-516-g0b371cb: Make food restriction mutations single-level. 10(4 months ago, 14 files, 75+ 79-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0b371cb4664b 19:09:55 03|amethyst02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/656 * 0.21-a0-517-g639369e: Simplify food_def. 10(4 months ago, 2 files, 15+ 22-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/639369e543cd 19:09:55 03|amethyst02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/656 * 0.21-a0-518-g34e33c0: Merge bread and meat rations. 10(4 months ago, 51 files, 129+ 297-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/34e33c0298db 19:09:55 03|amethyst02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/656 * 0.21-a0-519-gb10ecd9: Remove royal jellies. 10(4 months ago, 43 files, 89+ 144-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b10ecd9c7d78 19:09:55 03|amethyst02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/656 * 0.21-a0-520-gc956b2d: Merge fruit into rations. 10(4 months ago, 38 files, 122+ 180-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c956b2dc1fc0 19:09:55 03|amethyst02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/656 * 0.21-a0-521-g24e071c: Fix swapped herb/carn food values. 10(4 months ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/24e071c99e2b 19:09:55 03|amethyst02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/656 * 0.21-a0-522-g0c549f6: Remove obsolete commends in food.des. 10(3 months ago, 1 file, 0+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0c549f68f51b 19:09:55 03|amethyst02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/656 * 0.21-a0-523-g522d15d: Decrease herb/carn ration nutrition. 10(3 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/522d15d8bb9f 19:09:55 03|amethyst02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/656 * 0.21-a0-524-ga725d39: Reduce ration nutrition by about 37%. 10(3 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a725d394c971 19:09:55 03|amethyst02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/656 * 0.21-a0-525-g7a3a363: Correct objstat nutrition counts for food piles. 10(3 months ago, 1 file, 6+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7a3a3634af0c 19:09:55 ... and 5 more commits 19:10:44 just remove food guys come on 19:10:44 hellmonk: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 19:12:31 <|amethyst> hellmonk: I think some conspirators might be planning that for 0.22 19:12:44 <|amethyst> but it probably won't land in 0.21, whereas this can 19:12:47 yessssssssssss 19:13:30 <|amethyst> does anyone feel like implementing purple chunk removal for that PR? 19:13:41 !gamesby nicutudor 19:13:42 nicutudor has played 160 games, between 2016-01-11 16:42:51 and 2017-11-15 14:59:30, won 108 (67.5%), high score 26722401, total score 231393845, total turns 10431855, play-time/day 2:09:35, total time 60d+17:57:06. 19:13:45 <|amethyst> presumably they'd be merged with inedible chunks 20:22:49 |amethyst: I could do 20:23:04 you had some reservations and wanted to change up some mutation leveling as I recall? 20:23:49 and I hope to god that you didn't make TotalGhoulNutr inaccurate by *EVEN ONE POINT* or I will be livid 20:23:54 critical statistic 20:40:18 -!- Evablue_ is now known as Evablue 20:42:56 03|amethyst02 07* 0.21-a0-516-gaaff437: Fix an obsolete options example (minmay) 10(11 seconds ago, 1 file, 5+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/aaff4373863e 21:07:28 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 21:41:37 noise should be a map 21:41:46 i'm thinking 5x5 21:42:11 center is your location, the adjacent squares represent just out of LOS 21:42:20 and the border represents farther away 21:43:15 and then in each location place a number from, say, 1 to 3, representing sound level 21:43:33 leave it blank if you havent heard any sound at all from that location recently 21:51:47 -!- Evablue_ is now known as Evablue 21:53:30 -!- mikee__ is now known as mikee_ 22:47:20 It seems that Maxwell's termic engine both gain and lose its pluses when performing martial attacks under WJC. 23:03:33 Disconnected ecumenical altar vault 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11308 by Yermak 23:09:25 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 23:10:52 The tile of player wielding Maxwell's termic engine is quite similar to the tile of player being burned by sticky flame. 23:17:53 yermak, can you get a screenshot? 23:18:09 sec 23:24:08 https://imgur.com/a/PR9wV 23:24:21 The third is both combined. 23:25:04 I guess I should've given a long sword to the left one too. 23:59:31 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.21-a0-516-gaaff437 (34)